Robert le Sauvage
Events
Date of Birth: unknown.
Place of Birth: unknown.
Date of Death: about 1256.
Place of Death: unknown.
Robert is recorded in the Close Rolls alive in 1254, and his wife was a widow in a 1257 fine.
Relationships
Father: Robert le Sauvage.
This relationship is recorded in the Fine Rolls (see below).
Mother: Hawise.
See her husband’s page for evidence.
Spouse: Aldeluya.
This relationship is recorded in the Patent Rolls (see below), and fines (See her son John le Sauvage’s page.)
Children:
(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project.)
John le Sauvage (died about 1275) married Hawise.
Joan le Sauvage.
Evidence
from the Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum (pt. 1)
(p. 425)
3 July 1220.
Rob’ fil’ Rob’ le Salvag’ did homage for the lands he held in chief in Steinesbi.
from the Calendar of the Fine Rolls:
4/210 (02 August 1220)
[No date]. Derbyshire. Robert son of Robert Savage owes the king £20 for the relief of his lands at Stainsby, and this is enrolled in the rolls of the Exchequer. He has given the king surety for the relief at the Exchequer. The pledges for the relief of Robert son of Robert Savage are: Alan de St. George. Simon of Etchingham .
13/313 (26 September 1229)
26 Sept. London. For Robert Savage. To the barons of the Exchequer. The king has granted to Robert Savage, because he is ready to be made a knight and is ready to cross with the king on his first crossing after Michaelmas in the thirteenth year, that, of the £18 which he was bound to render at Michaelmas in the same year, he may render a moiety at the same term and the other moiety at Michaelmas in the fourteenth year. Order to cause it to be done thus.
13/314 (26 September 1229)
For Robert Savage. Order to the sheriff of Sussex to permit him to have peace therefrom.
15/86 (03 January 1231)
For Robert Savage. The king has granted to Robert Savage that, of the debts he owes him, he may render £10 each year at the Exchequer, namely 100s. at the Exchequer of Easter in the fifteenth year and 100s. at the Exchequer of Michaelmas in the same year, and thus from year to year until the aforesaid debts are paid. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause this to be done and enrolled thus.
19/42 (30 November 1234)
30 Nov. Kempton. Surrey. Concerning the land of Gilbert de Laigle. The king has committed to Robert Savage all lands formerly of Isabella, formerly the wife of Gilbert de Laigle , to keep for as long as it pleases the king to answer for them at the Exchequer. Order to the sheriff of Surrey to cause him to have full seisin of all lands which Isabella held in his bailiwick.
19/84 (02 January 1235)
The king. Concerning selling the corn of the manors formerly of John de Braose . Order to Robert Savage to cause all corn of the manors of John de Braose , which is in his custody, to be threshed and sold , and to cause the monies that he will receive therefrom to be kept safely until the king orders him otherwise.
19/105 (25 January 1235)
25 Jan. Westminster. For Earl Richard, concerning the lands formerly of John de Braose . Order to Robert Savage to cause the plough-teams, oats and barley that are in the lands formerly of John de Braose in his custody to be valued by trustworthy and law-worthy men , and to demise them by the same value to Earl Richard, to whom the king has given the custody of the aforesaid lands with the custody and marriage of the heirs of the same John , and to cause the barons of the Exchequer to know the value for which he ought to answer at the Exchequer.
28/3 (02 November 1243)
2 Nov. Westminster. For Thomas of Poynings. The king has granted to Thomas of Poynings that he is to render 12½ m. at Hilary in the twenty-eighth year and 12½ m. at the Close of Easter in the same year for the 25 m. he owes to him by reason of a novel disseisin that he made together with Robert Savage for the timber of Broadwater . Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause him to have the aforesaid terms.
33/118 (10 February 1249)
Concerning the lands of John de Bendenges and John of Barkham. Order to the sheriff of Hampshire to commit to Robert Savage, sheriff of Surrey, the year and day that pertains to the king from the lands formerly of John de Bendenges in his bailiwick in order to make the king’s advantage therefrom, both digging up his wood and garden, knocking down his houses and mowing his meadow or doing otherwise as will seem best, so that he will answer the king for them at the Exchequer.
from the Calendar of Patent Rolls:
1227. Robertus le Salvage, qui de licentia domim regis profectus est versus Sanctum Jacobum, habet literas de proteotione duraturas usque ad reditum suum. Teste rege, apud Wudestok, xvij die Augusti.
1230. Robertus le Sauvage [goes with the king overseas].
1234. June 30. Westminster. Order to the constable of the castle of Bremle, as he loves himself and all that he has, to deliver that castle to W. earl of Warenne and W. earl of Ferrars, whom the king is sending to him to receive it and deliver it into the custody of Robert le Sauvage, to keep during pleasure ; more especially because it has been provided by the council and agreed by the king that all castles on the sea coast not in the king's hands should be taken into them by reason of the truce with the king of France, which has expired in this term of Midsummer, to avoid possible dangers and losses ; and he is to deliver the castle, even though he have not received the mandate of Peter de Rivallis, in whose name he holds the castle, the king having commanded the said Peter to surrender this and the other castles on the coast in his hand, which surrender he refuses.
The like to the constable of the castle of La Knappe for livery thereof to the said earls to deliver to the said Robert.
Appointment, during pleasure, of Robert le Sauvage to the custody of the lands of the honor late of Gilbert de Aquila in the county of Sussex, which were in the hands of Peter de Ryvallis ; and mandate to the tenants thereof to be intendant unto him in all things pertaining to the lands and not to the said Peter or his bailiflfs.
The like with respect to the honors late of John de Braosa of la Knappe and Bremble, co. Sussex.
1234. July 5. Kempton. Mandate to H. earl of Hereford, and Richard de Argentein, after thanking them for the diligence which they applied in seizing into the king's hands the castle of Pevenese, and signifying that, whenever they wish, they may return home, and that the king has appointed Robert le Sauvage to the custody of the castle, during pleasure, to cause it to be delivered to him accordingly.
1259. March 17. Chertsey. Aldeluya late the wife of Robert le Sauvage has complained to the king that when she took the king’s writ of judgement to the sherifee of Sussex touching the assignment to her of dower in his bailiwick, he in favour of the adverse party has hitherto put off assigning dower to her. And it is commanded to John de Swyneford to go to the sheriff to Sussex, and the sheriff, in his presence and by his view and testimony, is to give seisin of her said dower without further delay.
from the Calendar of Close Rolls:
1228. Pro Roberto le Sauvage, — Rex vicecomiti Dereb' salutem. Monstravit nobis Robertus le Sauvage quod, occasione cujusdam misericordie, in quam totus comitatus tuus incidit coram justiciariis nostris itinerantibus pro falso judicio, tu ipsum et homines suos de balliva tua distringis ad misericordiam illam una cum ceteris de comitatu acquietandam, cum ipse et homines sui ad comitatum sectam non faciant, ratione cujus misericordie illius debeant esse participes. Et ideo tibi precipimus quod, si iidem Robertus et homines sui sectam ad comitatum tuum non faciant nee facere debeant nee aliquid fecerint quare debeant esse participes illius misericordie, ipsos occasione predicta non distringas. Teste rege apud Rading', xxxj die Marcii.
1234. Mandatum est Roberto le Sauvage quod faciat habere priori de la Sele decimas ei debitas, ut dicitur, de honore de Bremble, tam de redditibus ejusdem honoris quam de caseo et aliis, et buscam et brueram in foresta Sancti Leonardi ad focum suum, sicut decimas predictas et buscam et brueram illam percipere consuevit tempore Johannis de Brause. Teste rege ut supra.
1234. Pro Reginaldo de Muntpincum et Simone de Lechewurth’.-- Mandatum est Roberto le Sauvage quod Reginaldum de Muntpincun et Simonem de Lechewurth’, qui capti sunt et detenti in prisona apud castrum de Pevenes’, eo quod tenuerunt predictum castrum contra dominum regem, deliberet et libere quo voluerint abire permittat. Teste rege apud Westmonasterium, xij. die Julii. Per G. de Craucumb’.
and several other entries in 1234…
1253. Justiciariis de Banco. Mandatum est jusiticiariis de banco in loquela que est eis inter Robertum le Sauvage et Johannem de Gatesden’ de manerio Brawatr’ cum pertinenciis secundum justiciam procedant ad judicium. Teste ut supra. Per J. Maunsell’.
1254. Pro Roberto le Sauvag’. – Mandatum est justiciariis de Banco quod loquelam que est coram eis per breve regis inter Robertum le Sauvage, qui cum J. Maunsell’ per preceptum regis profectus est in Hispanniam, petentem, et Johannem de Gatesden’, tenentem, de manerio de Brawater’ ponant in respectum usque ad quindenam Pasche anno xxxix. Teste ut supra.
from the Book of Fees:
(p. 689)
Sussex 1242-1243.
Isti tenent de Brembe qui est in manu Comitis Ricardi cum herede de Brause
…
Robertus le Sauvage iiij. feoda militum in Brawater, Sehgwyk et Garingel’ de eodem honore.
Sussex fines:
no. 172.
172. Inter Robm. le Sauuage pet' et Johem. de Keinon deforc':—De advocacione ecclesie de Echingefeld; unde assisa ultime presentacionis sum' fuit inter eos:—Johes. recognovit &c.:—Pro hoc fine Robs. dedit Johi. duodecim denar' redditus in Segwike percipiendas annuatim de tenemento Wimundi de Radigemer' et heredum suorum ad duos terminos scil' med' ad Nativ' Sci. Johe. Bapte. et aliem med' ad Natale; et preterea Robs. dedit Johi. quadraginta solidos. [6° Henry III. Westm' A die Pasch in tres sept'. (File 7. No. 4).] [1222]
no. 450.
Inter Johem. Maunsel prepositum Bev'len' quer' per Ricm. de Furneaus pos' loco suo et Robm. le Sauuage deforc' per Ricm. de Rysing pos' loco suo:—De maneriis de Brawat'e Wurthing Segewyk et Garīgeleg in comitatu Sussex et de manerio de Steyneby in comitatu Derbeye; unde placitum convencionis sum' fuit inter eos:—Robs. recognovit quod decetero nichil dare vendere invadiare vel aliquo alio modo alienare poterit de predictis maneriis nec de aliis terris et tenementis que eidem Robto. jure hereditaris accidere poterint nec de eorum pertinentiis quominus predicta maneria cum omnibus pertinentiis et similiter omnes alie terre et tenementa que Robto. decetero accidere poterunt post decessum ipsius Robti. integre remaneant propinquioribus hbs. Robti., Et preterea Robs. dimisit Johi. predictum manerium de Segewyk simul cum tota terra quam Robs. aliquando tenuit de Abbate de Fescaump in parochiis de Northurst et Horsham et que terra jacet extra parcum manerii de Segewyk cum boscis pratis pasturis et omnibus aliis rebus ad eandem terram pertinentibus, Et similiter Robs. dimisit Johi. totum servicium Henr. fabri de Horsham et heredum suorum de tenemento quod Henr. tenuit in predictis parochiis simul cum toto illo prato quod est inter calcetum vicarii de la Knappe et ecclesiam de Grenestede, tenenda tota vita sua, reddendo unum par albarum cyrothecarum vel unum den' ad Pascha pro omni servicio, Et post mortem Johis. dictum manerium de Segewyk &c, revertentur ad Robtm. et heredes suos, salvis tamen Johi. omnibus aliis articulis contentis in quodam alio cyrographo inter eundum Johem. et predictum Robm. prius confecto cui appensum est sigillum Robti. de quibus articulis nulla fit mentio in cyrographo isto. [33° Henry III. Lewes Cras' Animarum. (Divers Counties: File 12. No. 231). Sussex Derb'.] [1249]
no. 604.
Inter Robm. le Sauuage pet' per Nichm. le Fraunceys pos' loco suo et Johem. de Gatesdene ten':—De manerio de Brawatre; unde placitum fuit inter eos:—Robs. recognovit &c., tenendum Johi. et Hawisie et hbs. Johis. reddendo unum par albarum cyrotecarum vel unum den' ad festum Sci. Michis. et faciendo capitalibus dominis &c.:—Pro hoc fine Johes. dedit Robto. unum sparvarium sorum. [40° Henry III. Wilton A die Pasche in xv dies. (File 19. No. 10).] [1256]
Commentary
Many sources show Robert le Sauvage as having a daughter Hawise who married John de Gatesden, but Round, citing a 1253 British Museum charter (Campbell Ch. VIII., 22), shows that this Hawise was the daughter of Robert de Courtenay, and the widow of John de Nevill. The Sauvage property in Sussex did not pass to Hawise and John de Gatesden through inheritance from the Sauvages.
References
An Abstract of the Feet of Fines for the County of Sussex vol 1, 2., 3. (Sussex Record Society, 1903-1916).
A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 6 Part 1, Bramber Rape (Southern Part).(Victoria County History, 1980).
A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 6 Part 2, Bramber Rape (North-Western Part) including Horsham (Victoria County History, 1986).
A History of the County of Sussex: Volume 6 Part 3, Bramber Rape (North-Eastern Part) including Crawley New Town (Victoria County History, 1987).
Liber feodorum. The Book of Fees commonly called Testa de Nevill. part II 1242-1293 and Appendix (His Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1923).
Rotuli litterarum clausarum in Turri Londinensi asservati vol. 1 (ed. Thomas Duffus Hardy) (1833).
Round, J. H. “The Early History of North and South Stoke” in Sussex Archaeological Collections vol. 59 (1918).
Statham, S.P.H. “Later Descendants of Domesday Tenants in Derbyshire” in Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society new series, vol. 5, no. 52 (1931).
Turner, Edward. “On Sedwick Castle” in Sussex Archaeological Collections vol. 8 (1856).