Margred ferch Gruffudd ap Rhys

Margred was heiress of Gloddaeth and Tregarnedd. She was living as a widow at Gloddaeth when Lewys Môn addressed a poem to her. Mostyn (pp. 63-66) gives a translation.

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Date of Death: 1532.

Place of Death: unknown.

The date is given by Carr (1977/8 p. 17; 1979 p. 157).

Relationships

Father: Gruffudd ap Rhys ap Gruffudd.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Mabon Glochydd 2). It is given by Carr (1979, p. 139; p. 157), and by Mostyn (p. 60). Dwnn (2:308) calls him “Griffith ap Rys ap Madog Gloddaith,” omitting the Gruffudd that Bartrum, Carr, and Mostyn give as Rhy’s father.

Mother: Jonet ferch Dafydd.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Mabon Glochydd 2).

Spouse: Hywel “the Dun Stag” ab Ieuan Fychan ab Ieuan.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Mabon Glochydd 2, Tudur Trefor 13 (C2)). It is given by Mostyn (p. 60), by Dwnn (2:308), by Lloyd (4:147), by Carr (1979 p. 139), and by Davies.

Spouse: Harry Salesbury.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Mabon Glochydd 2). It is given by Carr (2017, p. 146).

Children (by Hywel):

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project. Most information below comes from Bartrum. Ieuan and Syr Rhys are mentioned by Mostyn (p. 66), but not by Bartrum.)

Richard (died 7 February 1539/40) married Catrin Salusbury.

Ieuan married Lleucu ferch Robert ap Rhys ap Bleddyn.

Syr Rhys ap Hywel.

Children (by Harry):

Margred married Robert ap Gruffudd.

Elsbeth married (1) Pirs ab Oliver; married (2) Sir Roger Puleston.

Jonet married Hywel ap John.

Annes married (1) John ap Gruffudd; married (2) Richard ap Maredudd.

Lowri married William ap William.

Catrin married (1) Huw ap John; married (2) Pirs ap Gruffudd.

Harry Goch Salesbury (died 1539) married (1) Margred ferch Tudur; married (2) Lucy ferch Harry.

Thomas.

Robert.

Huw married a daughter of John Leach.

Evidence

Carr (2017, p. 182) cites and translates this praise of Margaret's kitchen by Tudur Aled:

Ucel yw’r gaer uwchlaw’r gwin

Uwch yw ager o’i chegin;

Gwaith rhost ag wyth eiriastan,

Gwresog yw’r côg, a’r siwgr can;

[High is the fortress above the wine,

Higher is the steam from her kitchen;

Roasting with eight hot fires,

Hot is the cook and the fine sugar;]

References

Bartrum, Peter C., “Mabon Glochydd 2”, “Tudur Trefor 13 (C2)”, “Salesbury 8” in An Electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500. [The sources that Bartrum cites for Margred’s marriage to Hywel are are: Peniarth 137 (122) -- written in the early 1500s by ‘Syr’ Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deiews; and Peniarth 133 (29), Peniarth 176 (198), and Peniarth 134 (86, 95) -- MSS written in the mid-1500s by Gruffudd Hiraethog. The sources that Bartrum cites for Margred’s marriage to Harry are: Peniarth 129 (63), copied from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain; Peniarth 137 (40, 118); Peniarth 128 (283a), “Llyfr Edward ap Roger”, written before 1582; and Peniarth 134 (66, 95).]

Carr, Antony David. The Mostyn Family and Estate, 1200-1643 (PhD thesis, University of Wales, 1975).

Carr, A.D. “The Making of the Mostyns: the Genesis of a Landed Family” in Transactions of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion (1979), pp. 137-157.

Carr, A.D. “The Mostyns of Mostyn, 1540 - 1642, Part I” in the Flintshire Historical Society Journal, Volume 28 (1977/1978), pp. 17-37.

Carr, A.D. The Gentry of North Wales in the Later Middle Ages. (University of Wales Press, 2017).

Davies, Sir William Llewelyn. “Mostyn Family, Mostyn Hall” in Welsh Biography Online.

Dwnn, Lewys, and Samuel Rush Meyrick. “Moiston Hall”, in Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the marches between the years 1586 and 1613 by Lewys Dwnn. (Llandovery: William Rees, 1846).

Lloyd, Jacob Youde William. The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fodog and the Ancient Lords of Arwystli, Cedewen and Meirionydd. (London: T. Richards, 1881-1887).

Mostyn, the Right Hon. Lord, and T. A. Glenn. History of the Family of Mostyn of Mostyn (London: Harrison and Sons, Ltd., 1925).