Gronwy ap Tudur ap Gronwy ab Ednyfed Fychan

Rhaglaw of Dindaethwy

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Bartrum (Marchudd 12) gives Gronwy a number of 8 in his generational dating system, implying a birth date of, very roughly, about 1270.

Date of Death: 1331.

Place of Death: unknown.

The date is given by Roberts and by Carr (1990, p.2; ODNB).

(possible) Date of Burial: 11 December 1331.

Place of Burial: the Dominican Friory at Bangor.

The place is given by Carr (ODNB) and by Roberts (p. 214), who notes that the date appears in a sixteenth century manuscript which claims to contain information drawn from Gutun Owain.

Relationships

Father: Tudur ap Gronwy ab Ednyfed Fychan.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 12), and given by Roberts (WBO; 1969, p. 274), and by Carr (1990, p. 2; ODNB; MA p. 163).

Mother: Angharad ferch Ithel Fychan.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 12).

Spouse: Gwerful ferch Madog.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 12) and given by Carr (1975, p. 370 chart). Roberts (p. 188) notes that Madog of Hendwr was Gronwy's father-in-law.

Children:

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project. Most information below comes from Bartrum.)

Hywel (died about 1366), archdeacon of Môn.

Tudur (died about 1367) married (1) Mallt ferch Madog; married (2) Margred ferch Thomas.

Gruffudd (died 1344).

Gwerful married Madog Goch.

Gwenllian married Iorwerth Goch.

Gwenllian married Iorwerth ap Llywelyn.

Evidence

An abstract of Gronwy's inquisition post mortem (CIPM 2:418):

418. Gronou ap Tuder or ap Tudur.

Writ. 22 March, 6 Edward III.

South Wales. Inq. taken at Kermerdyn on Friday before St. James, 6 Edward III.

Kethlan in the king’s commote of Mabwynneon. A third part of a ‘westua.’

Redonnen in the king’s commote of Commot Perveth and Lechythlenan in the commote of Creudyn. A third part of a ‘westua.’

All held of the king in chief by Welsh law, and doing suit at the king’s court of Cardigan every month. He held no lands, &c., of any other in those parts.

Howel ap Gronou ap Tudur, Tudur ap Gronou, and Gruffuth ap Gronou ap Tudur are his next heirs, and of full age according to Welsh law, and the said lands are divisible among them according to Welsh law.

C.Edw.III.File 31. (16.)

References

Bartrum, Peter C., “Marchudd 12” in An Electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500.

[The sources that Bartrum cites for Gronwy are: BM. Add. 14919 (135), probably by Gutun Owain; Peniarth 131 (60), written early in the reign of Henry VIII; Peniarth 131 (291), written by Ieuan Brechfa about 1500; Peniarth 129 (58), copied about 1500 from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain; Peniarth 127 (22), written by Syr Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deicws between about 1510 and 1523; and Peniarth 128 (678a), “Llyfr Edward ap Roger”, written before 1582.]

Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other analogous documents preserved in the Public Record Office. Vol. VII, Edward III. (London, 1909).

Carr, Antony David. The Mostyn Family and Estate, 1200-1643 (PhD thesis, University of Wales, 1975).

Carr, A.D. “Gwilym ap Gruffydd and the Rise of the Penrhyn Estate” in Welsh History Review Vol. 15, no. 1 (June 1990), pp. 1-20.

Carr, A.D. Medieval Anglesey. (Anglesey Antiquarian Society, 2011 2nd ed.).

Carr, A.D. “Tudor family, forebears of (per.c.1215-1404)”, in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Oxford University Press, 2004).

Roberts, Glyn “GRIFFITH OF PENRHYN (Caerns.)” in Welsh Biography Online.

Roberts, Glyn. Aspects of Welsh History. (University of Wales Press, 1969).