Alice ferch Ithel Fychan

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Date of Death: unknown.

Place of Death: unknown.

Relationships

(possible) Father: Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Llwyd.

This relationship is given by Carr (2003, p. 61), who states that it makes more chronological sense than the relationship shown by Bartrum below.

Mother: uncertain.

Bartrum (Edwin 14) shows Margaret, daughter of Sir Hugh Brickill, but Carr (2003, p. 61) states, "There is no firm evidence to identify Ithel's wife..."

(possible) Father: Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Gam.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Edwin 14).

(possible) Mother: Adles ferch Richard.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Edwin 14).

Spouse: Robert ab Iorwerth ap Rhirid.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Ednywain Bendew 2; Edwin 14) and given by Carr (2003, p. 75).

Children:

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project. Most information below comes from Bartrum.)

Margred married Madog ap Gronwy Fychan.

Lleucu married Hywel Gymen; also married Robert ap Gruffudd.

Angharad married Cynwrig ap Bleddyn Llwyd.

Llywelyn married a daughter of Dafydd ap Madog Llwyd.

Iorwerth.

Tangwystl married Cynwrig ab Ieuan.

A daughter married Rhys Wyn.

Cynwrig, sheriff of Flintshire, married (1) Angharad ferch Gruffudd Fychan; married (2) Angharad ferch Madog Llwyd.

Ithel, archiagon Tegeingl (fl. 1357-1382).

References

Bartrum, Peter C., “Edwin 14” in An Electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500.

[The sources that Bartrum cites for Alice are: Peniarth 129 (110, 116), copied about 1500 from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain, which doesn’t name Alice; Peniarth 127 (131, 164), written by Syr Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deicws between about 1510 and 1523; Peniarth 128 (600b, 609a, 611a), “Llyfr Edward ap Roger”, written before 1582 (600b and 609a don’t name Alice); and Peniarth 134 (365) and Peniarth 135 (261) by Gruffudd Hiraethog (died 1564).]

Carr, A.D. “Lineage, Power, and Land in Medieval Flintshire” in Flintshire Historical Society Journal Vol. 36 (2003), pp. 59-81.