Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Llwyd ab Ithel Gam

Ithel Fychan was of Helygain (Halkyn). Carr (2017, p. 82) states: "Perhaps the outstanding example of land purchase and estate-building in fourteenth century Wales was the family of Ithel Fychan of Halkyn in Flintshire."


Bartrum’s note: “c. 1500 Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Gam was being confused with Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Llwydd. By c. 1550 the wife and all the daughters of the former had been transferred to the latter.”


Events


Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.


Floruit: 1292 - 1320.

Mostyn (p. 192) notes that Ithel Fychan did homage and fealty at Flint in 1301, was foreman of a jury at Flint in 1310, appears in deeds in 1316 and 1317, and farmed the raglory of the county of Flint in 13-14 Edward II. Carr (2003, p. 60-1) notes that Ithel appears in the lay subsidy of 1292-3 and that the last reference to him is in a deed of 1317.


Date of Death: probably shortly after 1323.

Place of Death: unknown.

The date is given by Glenn (p. 136).


Relationships


Father: Ithel Llwyd ab Ithel Gam.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Edwin 14). It is given by Carr (1979, p. 138; 2003, p. 60) and by Mostyn (p. 192). Glenn (p. 136) states that the relationship is "proved".

Mother: Margred ferch Hwfa.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Edwin 14). It is given by Carr (1975, chart on p. 371).


(supposed) Spouse: Margaret, daughter of Sir Hugh Brickill.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Edwin 14). Mostyn (p. 192) gives Ales dau. Glenn (p. 137) wonders if she may have be a daughter of Richard de Caldy, a neighbour of Ithel. Carr (2003, p. 61) states, "There is no firm evidence to identify Ithel's wife..."


Children (by Margaret):

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project. Most information below comes from Bartrum and from Carr. Bartrum makes Gwenllian and Alice the children of Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Gam -- i.e. the uncle of the Ithel Fychan of this page, but Carr (2003, p. 61) states that it would make more chronological sense if the Ithel Fychan of this page were their father.)


Ithel (died 1341), parson of Llaneurgain, portionary rector of Northrop, married Lleucu ferch Ieuan ap Gruffydd ap Madog.


Llywelyn, parson of Whitford.


Dafydd, parson of Cilcain, and later of Northrop, married Gwenllian ferch Bleddyn ap Madog; also married Mared ferch Cynwrig.


Children (mother unknown):


Cynwrig Sais.


Tudur married Erddylad ferch Madog.


Bleddyn married Philippa ferch Gruffudd Llwyd.


Hywel.


Ieuan.


Maredudd.


Margred married Einion ap Madog Goch.


(possibly) Gwenllian married (1) Madog ap Gruffudd Fychan ap Gruffudd Maelor; married (2) Iorwerth ap Dafydd.


(possibly) Alice married Robert ab Iorwerth.


References


Bartrum, Peter C., “Edwin 14” in An Electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500. [The sources that Bartrum cites for Ithel Fychan are: Peniarth 131 (186), written by Gutun Owain about 1480; Peniarth 131 (54, 56), written early in the reign of Henry VIII; Peniarth 129 (56, 90, 115), copied from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain; and Peniarth 137 (24),written in the early 1500s by ‘Syr’ Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deiews. He notes that other MSS give Ithel Fychan ab Ithel Gam.]


Carr, Antony David. The Mostyn Family and Estate, 1200-1643 (PhD thesis, University of Wales, 1975).


Carr, A.D. “Lineage, Power, and Land in Medieval Flintshire” in Flintshire Historical Society Journal Vol. 36 (2003), pp. 59-81.


Carr, A.D. “The Making of the Mostyns: the Genesis of a Landed Family” in Transactions of the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion (1979), pp. 137-157.


Carr, A.D. The Gentry of North Wales in the Later Middle Ages. (University of Wales Press, 2017).


Glenn, Thomas Allen. “Ithel Vychan of Halkyn, and Some of his Descendants” in Archaeologia Cambrensis Vol. LXXVII. Seventh series, Vol. II. (London, 1922) pp. 135-146.


Mostyn, the Right Hon. Lord, and T. A. Glenn. History of the Family of Mostyn of Mostyn (London: Harrison and Sons, Ltd., 1925).