Ithel Gam

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Living: 1237.

The date is given by Bartrum (Edwin 12) and by Glenn (p. 136).

Date of Death: unknown.

Place of Death: unknown.

Relationships

(possible) Father: Hen Ithel Gam.

This relationship is suggested by Bartrum (Edwin 10), although his sources give Maredudd. Bartrum’s reasoning is that the mention of Hen Ithel Gam in sources “suggests the reason for the defectiveness of this genealogy, i.e. two persons named Ithel Gam who were misidentified.” Mostyn (p. 192) gives Maredudd. Glenn (pp. 136-137) discusses reasons why the traditional pedigree (with Maredudd as the father) cannot be correct.

Mother: unknown.

(possible) Spouse: Tibod ferch Rhirid.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Edwin 14). The only source for this marriage appears to be a 17th century manuscript, probably by Jacob Chaloner.

Children:

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project. Most information below comes from Bartrum.)

Ithel Llwyd married Margred ferch Hwfa.

Ithel Fychan married Adles ferch Richard.

References

Bartrum, Peter C., “Edwin 14” in An Electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500. [The sources that Bartrum cites for Ithel Gam (ap Maredudd ap Uchdrud) are: Peniarth 131 (105, 186), written by Gutun Owain about 1480; Peniarth 129 (56, 74, 112), copied from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain; and Peniarth 137 (24),written in the early 1500s by ‘Syr’ Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deiews. The sources for Hen Ithel Gam ap Maredudd ab Uchdrud are: Peniarth 129 (115), copied from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain; Peniarth 137 (129),written in the early 1500s by ‘Syr’ Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deiews; and Peniarth 128 (603a) “Llyfr Edward ap Roger, written before 1582.]

Glenn, Thomas Allen. “Ithel Vychan of Halkyn, and Some of his Descendants” in Archaeologia Cambrensis Vol. LXXVII. Seventh series, Vol. II. (London, 1922) pp. 135-146.

Mostyn, the Right Hon. Lord, and T. A. Glenn. History of the Family of Mostyn of Mostyn (London: Harrison and Sons, Ltd., 1925).