Margery Payne

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Date of Death: 1513.

Place of Death: unknown (probably Minchinhampton, Gloucestershire).

Margery made her will 14 April 1513 and it was proved 22 May.

Relationships

Father: uncertain.

Mother: uncertain.

Burke (p. 128) states that she was a daughter of Payne of Payne’s Court. If this is based on reality, Margery was probably a daughter of a William Payne of Spillmans court and his wife Margery, daughter of Edmund of Rodborough (Gloucestershire VCH 11:sub Rodborough), or of one of their sons. See the Commentary section below.

(probable) Spouse: Henry Halliday.

This relationship is given by Burke (p. 128) and by Walker (Bordley p. 21). See the Commentary section.

Children:

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project.)

Henry Halliday married Joan.

Edward Halliday (died 6 April 1519) married Margery.

William Halliday.

John Halliday.

Eleanor Halliday married ? Heydon.

Commentary

On Margery’s parents:

Burke (p. 128) states that Margery’s granddaughter Rose married “Payne, of Payne’s Court.” In fact, Rose married John Payne of Spillmans Court (died 1541) (VCH 11:sub Rodborough). Burke also states that Margery herself was the daughter of “Payne, of Payne’s Court”.

In the VCH’s account of Spillmans Court, we are given this succession:

1. William Payne (fl. 1417) married Margery, the daughter of Edmund of Rodborough and Maud Spilman. Maud and Margery were both heiresses who had inherited Spillmans Court.

2. William Payne the younger was recorded as the owner of Spillmans Court in 1438.

3. Thomas Payne, William the younger’s son, succeeded.

4. John Payne (who died in 1541 and married Rose Halliday) was the son of Thomas.

If Margery was the daughter of the elder William, Rose married her second cousin. If Margery was the daughter of the younger William, Rose married her first cousin, once removed. I suppose that Margery could also have been the daughter of a younger son of the elder William. All this is assuming that Burke is correct about Margery’s marriage, since I have not discovered other evidence. (Burke was correct about the Rose Halliday - John Payne marriage, but many of his other assertions about the Halliday family look highly suspect to me.)

In the pedigree of Payne in the 1623 visitation of Gloucestershire, it appears that William the younger sealed a deed in 1460, and that the wife of Thomas was Catherine Moody.

On Margery’s husband:

This relationship is given by Burke (p. 128). Bordley (p.21) quotes from a letter from John R. B. Walker, Rouge Croix, College of Arms in London, dated 22 July 1949: “[T]hat one Henry Hollyday of Minikin Hampton, County Gloucester, had a wife Margery who died in 1513. They are shown as having four sons and one daughter; John of Minikin Hampton; Henry, the heir; Edward of Redborough; and Lawrence, an alderman of Gloucester.” It is not clear what weight to give this, as there is no primary source given, and Lawrence was not in fact a son of Henry. (Margery’s will names instead William as the fourth son.)

Evidence

Margery’s will:

In the name of oure Lord Amen. the yere of oure Lorde m.^f v^C xiij. the xiiij day of Aprill. I Margery Haliday. widdow in Mynchynhant in glocestorshyre being of hole mynde and p[er]fyte remembraunce com[m]ende my soulle to the blessid trinite to our blessid lady and to all the gloryouse company of hevyn and my body to be buryed in the church of the said p[ar]ishe in Anderlays p[ar]ishe/ And First I bequeth to the moder church of Worsetor xijd. And I bequeth to mynchynhampton in Recompence of thythinge forgotten xxd, and I bequeth to an honest preist to pray specially for my husband soulle and myn and the soullis of our bnfactors v. l vj s viij d. And I bequeth to the beryng of the Baner clothis to the honor of god. and to the use of the church of Mynchynhampto’ xl. s Also I bequeth to my godchildren to be devyded among theme by equall porcionns xls by the discrecion of myn executors. And I bequeth to Elynor my doughter my best girdill my best bedis and my best gown. And I bequeth to Johan Haliday the wyf of Henry Haliday a certayn porcion of my Rayment to be assigned by the discrecionis of myn executors. Also I bequeth to Ellynor my doughter viij. ^l to be occupyd to the use and well of her children as p[ar]te shalbe sene by myne Executor by whome I will. the said s’m of viij. ^li w^t the incresse of it be delyvered and devyded by equall porcionis to the children of the said Ellynor at suych co[n]uenient tyme as shalbe sene to myne Executours. And I bequeth. to Edward Haliday my sune viij li to be occupyd to the well of his children in maner as it is before rehersid. And I bequeth to William Haliday my sone viij li after the maner before rehersid and I bequeth to John Haliday viij. li after the maner before rehersid/ And I bequeth to Edward Haliday Thomas and Margery the children of Henry Haliday my sun a certeyn sum[m]e of money to be assigned by the discrecion of myn Executors as they think by theire wisdomis after the extent of my goodis be seen/ And I bequeth to the saide Johan Haydon ij flocke Beddis w^t blanketts and shetis to the said Beddis. And I will that xli in the handis of Edwarde and William my sonnes by equall porcionns to be occupyd and spende to the cotinuaunce[?] of an Annu[e]rsary for my husband and me and oure bnfactors by the space of xiiij yeres by the discrecion of the saide Edwarde and William. Alsoo I forgeve Elynor Heydon my doughter v.^l the which the saide Ellynor owith to me/ And I bequeth to tetbury church to the com[m]en use of it. iijs iiijd And I bequeth to Alison Fowlern iijs. And I bequeth to Denys my s[er]vant xs. And I bequeth to Johan Herys my s[er]vant. xs. And I forgeve. Elisabeth Smyth v^s that she owith me/ And I bequeth to Johan Hereys my s[er]vant. xs and I forgeve Elisabeth Smyth v^s that she owith me/ and I bequeth to Elisabeth anold flock Bed and a mantell. And I bequeth to Lockers children ij coots. And I bequeth to Bedills children iij. cootis/ And I bequeth to pore peopill Lynnen clothe to the extent of xls. Also I will my legaccys be made more or lesse after the sight of my goodis as shalbe seen to the discrecion of myn Executors. The Residue of my goodis unbequest I assigne to be disposed after the wisdomis of Edward and Willia[m] Haliday my sonnys whome I ordeyn and institute to be myn Executors that they fulfill my legacyes and dispose my not bequests to the well of theyr faders soulle and my. This witnessing John Raade preist and p[ar]sone of the saide Town. and conceyver of this Testament; Sr Richard Broke the day and the yere of our lord before rehersid.

[Proved 22 May [1513]]

from the National Archives catalogue:

1515-1518

Short title: Holyday v The abbot of Cirencester.

Plaintiffs: William Holyday of Minchinhampton, and Tybott, his wife, cousin and heir of Anne, late the wife of Raf Shyrley, knight.

Defendants: John [Haleborne], abbot of Cirencester (Sussetour).

Subject: Messuages and land in Cirencester and Minty, ancient demesne holden of the abbot. Gloucestershire

[Perhaps the case involves Henry’s brother.]

The will of Margery’s son Edward:

In the name of god Amen/ The iiij^th day of Aprill in the yere of our lord god m vC xix I Edwarde Haliday of Rodborow w^tin the parisshe of Mynchynhampton in the Countie of Gloucester clothmaker seke in my body and hole of mynde and of p[er]fytte remembraunce laude be unto all myghty god/ make and Ordiyne my Last Will and testament in maner and forme folouyng / First I comende my soule to allmyghty god our Lady seint mary his mother/ and to all the holy company of hevyn and my body to be buried in Anderleis Chapell with in the p[ar]issh church of Mynchynhampton aforesaid nyghe unto the Sepultur of my Father and mother on whose soules J’hu haue mercy/ Also I bequethe to the said parisshe church of Mynchynhampton xls. Also I bequeth to eu[er]y place of Freris within the Towne of Glouc’ vjs viijd to be distributed by the distribuciary of myn Executrix and sup[er]visour Also I bequeth to the Chapel of Rodborowe aforesaid towardes the bying of apaire of Westments for the said Chapell xls/ Also I bequeth to the Churche of Stonehouse in the said Countie towards the coueryng of the said Church with Leede xls/ Also I bequethe to Richard my sone xl li of lawfull money of England/ and to Will’m my sonne xl li of lawfull money of England/ and to Michaell my Sonne xl li of Lawfull money of Egland And to Agnes my daughter xl li of lawfull money of England/ and to Kateryn my daughter xl li of lawfull money of England/ and to Elizabeth my daughter xl li of lawfull money of England/ And to Alienor my daught’ xl li of Lawfull money of England to be delyuered to my said childryn in forme folouyng that is to saye xl li to euery of them when he or she shall come to and accomplisshe the yeris of abilitie to be maried that is to saye at thage of xviij yeres which somes of money I will shall remayne in the custody and kepyng of my said wif unto the tyme that my said children come and accomplisshe thage afore reherssed if the said Margery my wif so long lyve and be sole and unmaried Also I will that the said mergery duryng the tyme that she shall contenue Sole and not maried shall kepe and fynde my said childern at her owne proper costs and chargs untill they come to and accomplisshe the said age And if my said wif be contracted or maried to any manne/ the said somes of money to my said childern beqethed or any of them remaynyng in hir possession/ and not to my said childern at thage afore rehersed delyuered/ Then I will the said som[m]es to my said childern not paid and delyuere w^t the custody and kepyng of my said childern that haue not receiued there parts as before is said shalbe delyuered to my Sonnes Thomas Haliday and Richard Haliday / And that they at the recepte of the said som[m]e or som[m]e or som[m]es with sufficient Sureties w^t them shalbe bound by theire obligacion sufficient in the lawe to myne Executrix and overseer or to the lengest lyver of them in a convenient som[m]e by themto be lymytted for the redelyuery of the said som[m]es to my said Childern in maner and forme as is before expressed/ And also that the said Thomas and Richard shall fynde at their owne proper costs my said Childern whose porcions they shall soe receiue unto the tyme that they come to and accomplysshe the age afore rehersed Also I will that if any of my said childern dye before thage of xviij yeres. that then the porcion of hym or hir or of them that soo shall fortune to decease shalbe equally devided distributed and departed amongs the other all my childern then lyvyng as well maried as unmaried by evyn porcions Also I bequeth to John Payne my Sonne in lawe x li ofl lawfull money of England upon condicion that he withe sufficient Sureties w^t hym be bound by theire obligacion sufficient in the lawe to my said wif and William Haliday my brother and overseer of my testament in a [reivement?] som[m]e by them to be lemytted to obs[er]ue fulfill and p[er]forme all and singuler his promises towchyng the Joyntour of Rose my daughter and wife to the said John w^tin thre monethes after his landes shall come to his possession that is to saye to gyve hir so moche more ouir and aboue the lande that she nowe hath in Joyntour as shall amounte in the hole to the yerely value of tenne poundez ouer all chargs and Reprises Also I bequeth to Maister John Rade xxs/ and to John haliday my Brother xls/ and to my cosyn Thomas Benet xxs/ And to William Davys my Sone in Law Cs and to S[ir] Robert Smythe vjs viijd/ and to Robert Harris vjs viijd/ And to eu[er]y oon of my god childchildern [sic] now lyvyng syx pens Item I bequethe to my Brother Haliday xls Also I will that he be Recompensed and satisfied of all such costs & chargs and expencs as he shalbe putt to or susteine or any tyme or tymes aboute or any thyng comprised in this my said will or the execucion and p[er]fermaunce of the same or any thyng therin conteyned/ also I gyve and bequeth to Thomas my Sonne fyve acres of woode to be takyn in Pakenell/ Also where I haue and possede a ferme with his appurten’ncs sett and lyng in Stonehouse aforesaid which late was in the holdyng of oon Thomas Warren of the dimise and leese of Therle of Arundell for terme of certein yeris as by Indenture betwene the said Erle and me therof made more at large dothe appere. I will the said Margery my wyf haue occupie and enjoye the said ferme duryng the yeris of my said terme that be not yet past if she so long lyve upon condicion that she and other sufficient Sureties with hir be bounde by theire obligacon sufficient in the lawe to my brother Will’m Haliday the overseer of this my p[rese]nt test^t in acouvement[?] som[m]e by hym to be lymytted that she duryng the tyme that she or hir assignes shall haue and occupie the said ferme shall fynde a conuenable prest to saye masse and other divine service in the said p[ar]isshe Churche of Michinhampton gyvyng yerely unto the said prest for his Salary fyve poundez syx shilings viijd of lawfull money of Ingland at the feasts of the natiuite of Seint John baptist/ Seint Mighell tharchaungell/ the natiuite of our blessed lord/ and the annunciation of our blessed lady by evyn porcions to be paid to praye for me and the said m[ar]gery my wif our Fathers and mothers soules & of all them that we be bound by thorder of charite to praye for/ And also that she nor hir assignes duryng the tyme that She or hir said assignez shall haue and occupie the said ferme with thappurten’ncs shall not doo nor suffer to be doon any acte wherby the said terme shulde be forfetted to the said Erle or his heires/ or in eny wise to be determined but that the Residue of the said yeris after the decesse of the said margery not past may come to my said childern accordyng to his py p[rese]nt testament that is to saye if the said margery dye w^tin the said terme That then Thomas my Sonne w^t sufficient suerties with hym bounde by obligacion to my said brother Will’m in maner and forme as is aboue rehersed of my said wif shall haue occupie and enjoye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to hys use and behof if he so long lyf/ he fyndyng a conuenable prest duryng the tyme it shall so contynue in his handez in lyk maner as is abouesaid of margery my wif and if the said Thomas dye with in the said terme Then I will That Richard my Sonne fyndyng lykie Sureties to the said Will’m my brother shall haue occupie and enioy the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme to come to his owne use & behof if he so long lyve he fyndyng aprest as is aboue rehersed. And if the said Richard dye with in the said terme Then I will that Will’m my Sonne fyndyng lyke sureties to the said Will’m my brother shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to his owne use and behofe if he so long lyve/ he fyndyng apreest duryng the said terme. And if the said Will’m dye within the said terme Then I will that Mychaell my Sonne fyndyng lyk Suerties to my said brother William or his Executors shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the residue of the said ferme then to come if he so long lyve. he fyndyng apreest as is aboue specified of my said wif/ And the said Michaell dye with in the said terme then I will that Rose my daughter fyndyng lyke Suerties to my sayd Brother Will’m or to his execut’ shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to hir owne use if she so long lyve and she to fynd aconuienient preest as is beforsaid and if the said Rose dye with in the said term Then I will that Margery my daughter fyndyng lyk Suerties to my said brother William or his Executors shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to hir own use if she soo long doo lyve and she to fynde apreest to syng for me in maner and forme as is abouesaid. And if the said Margery dye with in the said terme then I will that Agnes my daughter fyndyng lyk Suerties to the said William my brother or to hys Executors shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to hir own use if she too long lyve She fyndyng a preest as is beforesaid duryng the tyme it shall contynue in hir handez. And if the said Agnes dye with in the said terme/ then I will that Kateryn my daughter she fyndyng lyke Suerties to the said Will’m my brother or to his Executors shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the said terme/ and the Residue then to come to hir owne use. if she so long lyve fyndyng apreest in lyke maner as the said Mergery my wif shall doo so long as it contynueth in hir handez/ And if the said Kateryn dye with in the said terme/ then I will that Elizabeth my daughter fyndyng lyke suerties to the said Will’m my brother or to his executors shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to hir owne use if she so long lyve she fyndyng apreest to syng for me duryng the tyme it shall contynue in hir possessioin/ And if the said Elisabeth dye w^tin the said terme/ Then I will that Alianore my daughter fyndyng lyke Suerties to the said Will’m my brother or his Executours shall haue occupie and enioye the said ferme duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come to hir owne Use. if she so long lyve the said Alianore fyndyng aconuenable preest to syng for me as aboue is declared to be doone by my wife Margery/ Also I will that my said wif haue and enioye the hoole terme that I haue in my dwellyng place. Mylle and dye housse in Rodborowe aforesaide with all other lands and tenements conteyned and specified with in my said leese of the said house which I haue of the leese of Giles Kyn with all and singuler the appurten’ncs duryng the tyme that she contenueth sole and not maried. if she so long lyve/ and if she Mary and take to husband any man or dye before the said terme be determined/ Then I will that Richard my Sonne shall haue occupie and enio the said dwellyng place Myll and dye house with theire appurten’ncs with all other landez and tenements conteyned and specified with in my said leese duryng the Residue of the said terme then to come with all the Implements to the same Mill and Dye house belongyng to his owne use and behofe/ And if the said Richard my Sonne dye before that the said terme be ended then I will that Thomas my sonne shall haue and enioye the said place as is beforesaid duryng his lif if the terme so long contynue/ And so lynyally to eu[er]y child oon after an other in lyk maner and forme as is beforesaid of the ferme of Stone house/ The Residue of all & singuler my goodes and Cattalls not bequethed my detts finely paid. and all my legaciez and bequests p[er]formed and fulfilled, I gyve and bequeth to Margery my wife to hir owne p[ur]piz use and behofe whome I make and Ordigne my Sole executrix to se to very true execuion of this my last will and testament/ And I depute and Ordigne my brother Will’m haliday to be ouerseer of the same Wyttnes Maister John Rade Sir Robert Smyth prest Gylez Kyn gentilman. Thomas. Benett and many other Gevyn under my Seale at Rodborowe aforesaid the day and yere aboue rehersed./

[Proved 9 July 1519]

Playne (pp. 12 ff.) has a detailed description with drawings of the monumental brass of Edward Halyday and Margery his wife in Minchinhampton church, dated 1519. It has the inscription “Off yor charite pray for the soule of Edwarde Halydaye and Margery his Wyfe which Edward decessid the viSc. vi day of Aprill, Ao dni MoCCCCCxix.”

from the 1522 Military Survery of Gloucestershire (If a value is given under ‘lands’ but not ‘goods’, it indicates the person was not resident in that parish. So, for example, Tibbot Halyday had land in Cirencester, but lived in Minchnhampton. ‘Able’ indicates able to bear arms.):

lands goods

Upleadon

John Halyday 20s halberd

Mitcheldean and Abenhall

Henry Halyday 15s

.

Walter Halyday £6

Little Dean

William Halyday £4

John Holyday [able] £10 hauberk

.

Walter Halyday 40s bill

Througham

John Haliday 8s

Bisley

John Haliday 30s

Cirencester, Castle Street

Tibby Haliday 20s

Cirencester, Minety

Tibby Haliday 26s 8d

Tetbury

Thomas Halyday 40s

Rodborough

Katherine Payn £10

Margery Halyday wid £100

Richard Halyday £30

.

Thomas Bennett £13

John Payn £13

.

Thomas Bennett weaver £3

Avening

Margery Halyday 4s

Minchinhampton

John Halyday 20s £7

.

Tibby Halyday £133 6s 8d

.

Edward Halyday [able] £3

.

William Halyday jun 40s

Stonehouse

Richard Alday [able] £6 bow & sheaf of arrows

Leonard Stanley

Robert Halyday [able] 30s

References

Baggs, A.P., A.R.J. Jurica, and W. J. Sheils. “Rodborough: Manors and other estates” in A History of the County of Gloucester: Volume 11, Bisley and Lontree Hundreds (Victoria County History) (London, 1976).

Bordley, James. The Hollyday Family. (Baltimore, 1962).

Burke, John. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland. Vol. II. (London 1835)

Hoyle, R.W. The Military Survey of Gloucestershire 1522. (The Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society, 1993).

Playne, Arthur Twisden. The Churches of Minchinhampton and Avening. (Gloucester, 1921).

The Visitation of the County of Gloucester taken in the year 1623 by Henry Chitty and John Phillipot (London, 1885).

Will of Edward Haliday of Rodborough. Proved 1519 in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury.

Will of Margery Haliday of Minchinhampton. Proved 1513 in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury.