John le Savage
Events
Date of Birth: about 1281
Place of Birth: unknown.
John is said to be aged two in his father’s inquisition post mortem taken 13 January 1284 and aged eleven in his father’s ipm taken 13 December 1292.
Date of Death: 1311.
Place of Death: unknown.
The writ for John’s inquisition post mortem was issued 20 November 1311.
Relationships
Father: Roger le Sauvage.
This relationship is recorded in Roger’s inquisition post mortem, in the Close Rolls, and in a pedigree in the Plea Rolls (See below).
Mother: unknown.
Spouse: Margery.
This relationship is recorded in the Close Rolls in 1311.
Children:
(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project.)
Roger le Savage (born about 1305 - died about 1339) married Isabel.
Evidence
from the inquisition post mortem of William de Stainsby (CIPM v. 2, Edw. I, no. 708)
Derby. Inq. Wednesday in Easter week, 17 Edw. I. [1289]
Le Herdewyk. The manor (extent given) held, with all his lands in the soke of Steynesby, of John le Sauvage lord of Steynesby in chief by service of 3lb. cummin, and 1lb. pepper, and by service of 4d. only.
A 1301 pedigree from the plea rolls.
from the Calendar of Close Rolls:
1301. October 11. Dunipace.
To the executors of the will of the late earl of Cornwall. Whereas the king — upon its being found by inquisitions taken by the escheators north and south of the Trent that Roger le Sauvage, deceased, held nothing of the king but the manor of Staynesby by the service of a sore-coloured sparrow-hawk.- yearly for all service, by reason whereof the wardship of the other lands that he held at his death ought not to pertain to the king — took the fealty of John, son and heir of the said Roger, for the manor, and ordered the eseheators this side Trent to cause John to have seisin of the manor, upon his finding security to answer to the king at the exchequer for his relief, saving the right of others, and to restore to John the issues received from it in the meantime, or to certify the king of the reason why he delayed doing so ; and the escheator has signified to the king that he had never received the issues of the manor because it was delivered, before the office of the escheatry was committed to him, to the said earl by the king's order, and the earl received the issues thereof until the day of his death, and the manor was in the custody of the executors on the day when the escheator received the king's order to deliver seisin thereof to John, and that the executors received the issues thereof from the day of the earl's death until the day when he delivered the manor to John, for which reason he could not deliver any issues to John as ordered : the king orders the executors to deliver to John the issues of the manor thus received by them.
1308. February 28. Westminster.
John Sauvage acknowledges that he owes to John de Bentelegh 26 marks; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands in cos. Surrey and Derby.
1311. July 6. Swineshead.
To Roger de Wellesworth, escheator this side Trent. Order not to intermeddle further with the manor of Gomeshulme, taken into the king’s hands upon the death of John le Sauvage, as it appears by inquisition taken by the said escheator that he held nothing in chief of the king at his death, but that he held that manor of William de Brewosa by knight service, and it appears by another inquisition taken by Robert de Wodehouse, escheator beyond Trent, that he held in chief in his bailiwick the manor of Steynesby by the service of a black sparrow-hawk yearly for all services, and that Roger his son is his next heir and is of the age of six years; wherefore the king has caused the said manor of Steynesby to be delivered to Margery, late the wife of the said John, to hold in tenencia until the next parliament, on condition that she answer to the exchequer for the issues if it be found that the king ought to have them of right.
1312. September 30. Westminster
To Roger de Wellesworth, escheator this side Trent. Order not to intermeddle further with the manor of Gomeshulme, as it appears by inquisition that John Sauvage held no lands in chief at his death, but that he held the said manor of William de Brewosa by knight service, which William has entered that manor by the king’s order, delivering to him any issues received from the same.
from the Calendar of Fine Rolls:
1309. December 12. Westminster. Pardon, for a fine of 100 marks made by Richard de Perers, to Westminster. James de Perers and Ela his wife, as above [p. 53].
And the said Richard will pay 33 marks 4s. 5d. on the Purification next and at Midsummer following and 33 marks 4s. 6d. at Michaelmas following and has found pledges for payment thereof, to wit, John de Twyford, knight, of the county of Warwick, John Joce, knight, of the county of Hertford, and John Sauvage of the county of Derby, each of whom has constituted himself principal debtor thereof.
1312. July 1. York. Order to the escheator on this side Trent, pursuant to an inquisition made by him shewing that John le Savage was seised in his demesne as of fee of the manor of Steynesby and held the same in chief by the service of rendering yearly at the Exchequer at Michaelmas a red sparrowhawk, and held no other lands of the king or any other, and that Roger his son is his nearest heir and of the age of seven years, to deliver the manor to Margery late the wife of John, to hold in tenancy until the next Parliament, answering for the issues if the king ought to have them.
John’s inquisition post mortem (CIPM v. 5, no. 334):
John Sauvage alias le Savage.
Writ, 20 Nov. 5. Edw. II.
Surrey. Inq. Friday after St. Andrew, 5 Edw. II. [3 Dec. 1311]
Gomeshulne. The manor (full extent given), held of Sir William de Brewose for 1/20 knight’s fee, by homage and service of 8l. rent.
Roger his son, age 6, is his next heir.
Writ, 20 Nov. 5 Edw. II
Derby. Inq. 10 April, 5 Edw. II [1312]
Steynesby. The manor held of the king in chief by service of rendering a sore sparrowhawk at the king’s exchequer only.
Heir as above, aged 7.
Writ de melius inquierendo, 20 April, 5 Edw. II
Derby. Inq. 2 May, 5 Edw. II. [1312]
Steinesby. The manor held as abovesaid, rendering a sore sparrowhawk at the king’s exchequer every year. He held no other lands &c. in the bailiwick.
Heir as above, aged 7.
Commentary
Statham’s misreading of the date of an inquisition post mortem of John’s father Roger leads to much confusion in his account of the Savages of this generation and the one before. Savage-Armstrong’s account is a confused mess all the way through the medieval period.
References
Calendars of the Close Rolls preserved in the Public Record Office. (His/Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1902-).
Calendars of the Fine Rolls preserved in the Public Record Office. (His/Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1911-).
Calendars of Inquisitions Post Mortem (His/Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1904-).
Savage-Armstrong, George Francis. The Ancient and Noble Family of the Savages of the Ards. (1888).
Statham, S.P.H. “Later Descendants of Domesday Tenants in Derbyshire” in Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society new series, vol. 5, no. 52 (1931).