Tudur ap Gronwy ap Tudur

Rhaglaw of Dindaethwy.

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Bartrum (Marchudd 13) gives Tudur a number of 9 in his generational dating system, implying a birth date of, very roughly, about 1300. Roberts (1969, p. 192) states that he was probably born before 1311, since Iolo Goch in a poem calls him 'Tudur Fychan', probably to distinguish him from his grandfather Tudur who died in 1311. He was of full age when his father died in 1331.

Date of Death: about 1367.

Place of Death: unknown.

The date is given by Roberts. Carr (ODNB) gives 1367, with a question mark.

Relationships

Father: Gronwy ap Tudur ap Gronwy ab Ednyfed Fychan.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 12). It is given by Roberts (WBO; 1969, p. 274), by Carr (1990, p. 2; ODNB; MA p. 163), and by Davies (p. 211).

Mother: Gwerful ferch Madog o'r Hendwr ab Iorwerth.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 12).

Spouse: Mallt ferch Madog ab Iorwerth.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 13).

Spouse: Margred ferch Thomas ap Llywelyn ab Owain.

This relationship is shown by Bartrum (Marchudd 13). It is given by Carr (1975, p. 370 chart). Carr states that Tudur’s wife was a sister of Owain Glyn Dŵr’s mother.

Children (by Mallt):

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project. Most information below comes from Bartrum. Carr (1975, p. 56) states that Gronwy, Ednyfed, and Gwilym were children of Margred.)

Gronwy of Penmynydd (died 1382) married Myfanwy ferch Iorwerth Ddu.

Angharad married (1) Maredudd Ddu; married (2) Gruffudd ap Dafydd.

Angharad married Tudur ap Hywel.

Rhys of Erddreiniog (died 1411 or 1412) married Efa ferch Gruffudd Goch.

Margred married Madog Fychan.

Ednyfed of Trecastell (died about 1382) married Gwenllian ferch Dafydd.

Gwilym of Clorach.

Children (by Margred):

Rhys Mawddwy (died 1412).

Maredudd married Margred ferch Dafydd Fychan. Great-grandfather of Henry VII.

Gwenhwyfar.

Evidence

Poems praising Tudur by Gruffudd ap Maredudd ap Dafydd (Myv. Arch. pp. 293-297).

Tudur was involved in 1345 in the murder of Henry de Shaldeford (Roberts 1969, p. 194-7).

References

Bartrum, Peter C., “Marchudd 12” in An Electronic Version of Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1500.

[The sources that Bartrum cites for Tudur are: BM. Add. 14919 (135), probably by Gutun Owain; Peniarth 131 (60), written early in the reign of Henry VIII; Peniarth 131 (291), written by Ieuan Brechfa about 1500; Peniarth 129 (58), copied about 1500 from a 1497 MS by Gutun Owain; and Peniarth 127 (22), written by Syr Thomas ap Ieuan ap Deicws between about 1510 and 1523.]

Carr, Antony David. The Mostyn Family and Estate, 1200-1643 (PhD thesis, University of Wales, 1975).

Carr, A.D. “Gwilym ap Gruffydd and the Rise of the Penrhyn Estate” in Welsh History Review Vol. 15, no. 1 (June 1990), pp. 1-20.

Carr, A.D. Medieval Anglesey. (Anglesey Antiquarian Society, 2011 2nd ed.).

Carr, A.D. “Tudor family, forebears of (per.c.1215-1404)”, in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Oxford University Press, 2004).

Davies, R.R. The Revolt of Owain Glyn Dŵr. (Oxford U.P., 1995).

The Myvrian Archaiology of Wales: collected out of ancient manuscripts (Owen Jones, Edward Willliams, William Owen Pughe eds.) (Denbigh, 1870).

Roberts, Glyn “Ednyfed Fychan” in Welsh Biography Online.

Roberts, Glyn. Aspects of Welsh History. (University of Wales Press, 1969).