Joan Threele

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Date of Death: unknown.

Place of Death: unknown.

Relationships

Father: uncertain.

Mother: uncertain.

Joan’s parents were probably Edmund Threele and Margaret Cooke. See the Commentary section.

Spouse: Thomas Byne.

Thomas’s will and inquistion post mortem name his wife Joan. Renshaw infers that she was a Threele of Loxwood from the arms above the burial monument of Thomas’s grandson John Byne.

Children:

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project.)

William Byne (died about 1558) married Alice Culpepper.

Elizabeth Byne.

Mary Byne (possibly buried March 1577 in Washington, Sussex) married someone surnamed Williams.

Evidence

from Renshaw:

“From the arms carved on the monument to John Byne (A) the grandson of this Thomas Byne, it seems that the latter’s wife was a Threele of Loxwood.”

Renshaw describes the arms over the monument of John Byne, erected against the south wall of the chancel of Washington church, but later moved under the tower: “There are four coats of arms upon it. In the centre over the entablature are the arms of Byne, and in a row below them are these three shields, 1st over the male figure Byne impaling paly of ten; 2ndly in the middle Byne impaling Argent a bend engrailed gules for Culpeper; and 3rdly over the female figure, Or a bend vair cottised gules for Bowyer, impaling a fess between three annulets for Draper.” He notes again that the arms Byne is impaling in the first shield are “no doubt, of Joan, the wife of Thomas Byne, of Rowdell, who therefrom appears to have been a Threele of Loxwood.

In Glover’s Encyclopedia Heraldica v. 4 the arms of Threlle are given: paly of ten, or and gu.--Crest, on a coronet of the first, an oak-tree ar.

In the Visitations of Sussex for Threele of Loxwood are given:

Arms. - Quarterly: 1. Paly of ten or and gules; 2. Azure, three dexter gauntlets, backs outward, argent (but this coat is crossed out); 3 and 4, [blank].

Crest. - On a wreath an oak erased proper, fructed or.

In Berry for Threele:

Arms. - Paly of ten, or and gu.

Crest. - A tree, fructed, ppr.

In the Visitations of Sussex under Threele of Boxill, it is noted that “in the quir of Arundell church lyeth affayre gravestone of one John Threele & his wiffe buried about the time of H. 6 there portratures both insculped in Bras & thes 3 escocheons. [Here are tricked these three coats: 1, Paly of eight [Threele]. 2. Three sinister gloves pendant, tasselled [? Bartlett]. 3, The first impaling the second.]

Commentary

Joan’s parents

Assuming the heraldic evidence for Joan being a Threele of Loxwood is sufficient, chronology suggests that she was probably the daughter of Edmund Threele of Loxwood. Edmund died in 1526/7 and his son and heir was born about 1510. Joan was likely born somewhat earlier (probably before 1500, since her eldest grandchild was born in 1537), but Edmund already appears as a witness in 1491 and is involved in some large property transactions in 1497, so it is plausible that he was married by then. It may also be signifcant that the Edward Coke who was an overseer of the will of Joan’s husband Thomas was probably a relative of Margaret Cooke, the wife of Edmund Threele, although he also seems to have been related to the Bynes by marriage, being married to the widow of an Edward Byne.

If Joan was not Edmund’s daughter, she was probably his sister or niece.

References

Berry, William. County Genealogies. Pedigrees of the Families in the County of Sussex. (1830).

Glover, Robert and William Berry. Encyclopedia Heraldica; or, Complete Dictionary of Heraldry vol. IIII. (Supplement)

Renshaw, Walter Charles. Searches into the history of the family of Byne or Bine of Sussex. (London: Chiswick Press, 1913) pages 17 to 20.

Thomas Bynd will, Church of England. Bishop of Chichester. Consistory Court (Archdeaconry of Chichester). FHL 194560. Family History Library, Salt Lake City.

The Visitations of the County of Sussex Made and Taken in the Years 1530 and 1633-4 (W. Bruce Bannerman ed.) (Harleian Society v. 53, 1905).

Will of Thomas Threll of Loxwood, Sussex. Proved 1571 in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. Digital images on Ancestry.com accessed 14 May 2020.