Ralph de Mountjoy

Events

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Date of Death: unknown.

Place of Death: unknown.

Ralph was living in 1212.

Relationships

Father: Serlo de Mountjoy.

This relationship is given by Statham.

Mother: Avice, daughter of Henry fitz Sewal.

This relationship is given by Statham.

Spouse: unknown.

Children:

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project.)

Serlo married Illaria.

Evidence

Confirmation by William de Ferrar [iis], Comes Dereb', to Ralph de Mungai of land in Hunderwude [Underwood] in the manor of Asseburn, which he held when the said William recovered the Wapentake of Wirk[sworth]; rent 4s. Witn. William de Rideware tunc senescallus, Robert fil. Walkel[in], Jordan de Touke, Herbert de Merlee, Robert de Bella fide, Thomas de Ednesoure, Robert de Aluithleg'. Temp. John. (Woll. ix. 5.) [Jeayes, no. 51]

Copy (fourteenth century) of a grant from Ralph de Monioye to Serlo de Monioye his son of a moiety of the vills of Parva Longesdon, Mornesale, and Brittrichisfield [Brushfield], to hold to him and his heirs in tail. Witn. Dom. William de Menyll, Henry de Kneveton, milites, Peter de Roland, Laurence de Acouere, etc. Early thirteenth century. (Foljambe.) [Jeayes, no. 1608]

A fine:

1212. January 13-20. York. Within 15 days of S. Hilary, 13 John. Before the King himself.

Between Philip de Ulecote and Joan his wife, Plaintiffs, and Ralph de Muniay and Avicia his mother, by the said Ralph her attorney, Tenants.

Release by Plaintiffs to Tenants in fee of the third part of the vill of Gilderlege, and of Winster, claimed as Plaintiff Joan’s dower on her marriage with Sewal de Muniay, her former husband; and grant, in consideration thereof, and of 15 silver marks, by Tenants to Plaintiffs, for Plaintiff Joan’s life, as dower, of 4 acres of land in Kinetone lying in a field called Winesdone between the arable lands of William de Grendone. [Hart, p. 210]

Commentary

Different sources interpret this last fine differently (reading Avicia as being the mother of Philip, or alternatively of Ralph). I can’t make out the writing myself, but Avicia’s presence in the fine only seems to make sense if she was the mother of Joan’s previous husband, not her current one.

Wright p. 316:

One of the earliest fines, that of 13 John, shows that this Ralf de Monjoie or Mungay was then alive and that he was the son of Sewell de Monjoie, who must have died many years previously, probably in the time of Henry II, because his widow, Avice, was at that date the mother of Philip de Ulecotes, who was then of full age.

Statham p. 244:

His [Henry fitz Sewal’s] daughter Avice was married to Serlo de Mungay.

Statham p. 258:

His [Serlo’s] eldest surviving son Sewal succeeded his father and it is known that his uncle, Sewal f. Henry (of Ettington) in 1199-1200 proferred 100 marcs for permission to marry Joan, his wife's sister, to his nephew, and that Sewal f. Serlo died before the fine became due. Philip de Ulcote married his widow in the same year (R.O. 5) and in January 1212, a fine was enrolled in which Philip de Ulecote and Joan his wife released to Ralph de Munjay and Avice his mother, the tenants of Yeldersley and Winster, one third of Yeldersley and one third of Winster claimed by them as Joan's dower on her marriage with Sewal de Munjay her former husband. (D.F. 1212). Joan was a daughter of Robert de Meynill and was a muchly married lady. After the death of Philip de Ulecote in 1221 she was married a third time to Oliver de Albini in the February of that year; but was again a widow in the following August. Her fourth husband was Walter de Godarvill. She had, therefore, the somewhat unusual experience of being twice widowed within a year of marriage. She died childless in 1226. Sewal de Mungay, her first husband, was one of the witnesses of the final concord made at Nottingham between John Sacheverel and Oliver f. Nigel de Bupton in 1197-98. (J. 1554, cf. G.R.P., 9 Ric. I). [Ralph, in Statham’s acount, was Sewal’s brother, and thus Joan’s brother in law.]

Statham p. 306:

In the same year Philip de Ulecote and Joan his wife claim dower, in the right of the said Joan, against Ralph de Munjay and Avice his wife in certain lands in Derbyshire as of the endowment of Sewal de Munjay late husband of the said Joan. (D.F. 1212). [This is apparently simply a mistake.]

References

Hart, W.H. “A Calendar of of the Fines for the County of Derby from their Commencement in the reign of Richard I” in the Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society v. 7.

Jeayres, I. H., and Henry Howe Bemrose. Descriptive Catalogue of Derbyshire Charters in Public and Private Libraries and Muniment Rooms. (1906).

Statham, S.P.H. “Later Descendants of Domesday Holders of Land in Derbyshire” Part 3 in Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society, vol. 49 (1927). pp. 233ff.

Wright, George Thomas. Longstone Records, Derbyshire. (1906).