Alice de Daresbury

Events 

Date of Birth: unknown.

Place of Birth: unknown.

Date of Death: unknown.

Place of Death: unknown.

Relationships

Father: William de Daresbury.

See the Commentary section. William was probably a son of William son of Matthew (Lancashire VCH 3: sub Sutton, note 6).

Mother: unknown.

Spouse: Henry de Bechinton.

Henry’s wife is recorded as Alice in deeds. From the evidence given by Woods, she appears to have been a Daresbury. See Henry’s page.

Children: 

(Complete source citations for facts about the children on this page are currently outside of the scope of this project.)

Margery de Bechinton married John Torond.

Evidence

from the Book of Fees vol. 1

A.D. 1212

Lancaster

Willelmus filius Mathei tenet feodum unius militis per serviciam j. militis.

Rogerus constabularish Cestrie iiij. feoda infra limam de baronia constabularii, de quibus Roberti j. militem, Willelmus filius Mathei j., Templarii j. carucatam, Hospitalarii ij. carucatas in elemosina, Abbas de Stanlawe iij. carucatas, Ricardus de Mulinas iij. carucatas, de quibus omnibus x. carucate faciunt j. feodum, Hugo de Morton’ ij. carucatas unde xij. faciunt et cetera, Hugo de Tildesle j. carucatam unde x.j., Alanus de Hesele dimidiam carucatam.

from the Book of Fees vol . 2

A.D. 1242-1243. Lancaster.

Feoda heredis Comitis Lincolnie in Derbisir’

Willelmus de Derisbury tenet unum feodum militis in Sutton’ et Eccliston’ de dicto feodo.

from Lancashire Inquests, p. 41 (concerning the 1212 entry):

William, son of Matthew, holds the fee of one knight by the service of one knight.

This is William de Daresbury, father (or more probably grandfather) of Margery, who married Henry le Norreys, son of Alan le Norreys of Formby, and brought to him the manor of Daresbury and lands in Over-Walton, co. Chester, and this knight’s fee in Sutton (4 car.), Eccleston (4 car.) and Rainhill (2 car.)  As Henry le Norreys died shortly before 1302, and Margery his wife after 1314, it is difficult to believe that she was the daughter of William, son of Matthew, of this inquest.

from the Lancashire VCH vol. 3, sub Sutton:

SUTTON, Eccleston, and Rainhill were probably members of the Widnes fee in 1086,  and continued to be held as one of the four knight's fees which constituted the service due for this lordship. In 1212 William son of Matthew de Daresbury held these manors.  About 1250 William de Daresbury granted to Robert son of Roger de Ireland, in free marriage with his daughter Beatrice, the homage of William called Samson in the whole of Eccleston and Rainhill, of Robert son of John de Sutton for three plough-lands in Sutton, and of Matthew de Daresbury, perhaps a brother of the grantor, for another half plough-land there.  Sutton by itself being assessed at four plough-lands, the remaining half plough-land was probably held in demesne. Beatrice was her father's heir, and her two daughters, Margery and Maud, carried the inheritance to their husbands, Henry and Gilbert, sons of Alan le Norreys of Formby.  There seems to have been a division, Henry and Margery as the seniors taking Daresbury,  whilst Gilbert and Maud took Sutton.

fn.6.

…William son of William de Daresbury granted 4 oxgangs in Liscard in Cheshire to William the clerk, son of Gilbert de Liscard; Towneley MS. OO. (penes W. Farrer), n. 1375.

from A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 1:

A. 190. Release by Alice de Kenyan, late wife of William de Derisbury, to Hugh de Derisbury and his heirs, of all the portion coming to her as dower on the death of William her husband, of his land in Derisbury, for term of her life, paying her therefor 3s. yearly. Witnesses : — Sir Hugh de Dutton, Ralph de Derisbury, Adam de Hatton, Henry le Norrays, Henry de Kenyan, and others (named).

A.193

Cheshire

Release by Isabel de Derisburi, relict of Alan de Lascelis, to Henry le Norreys and Margery his wife, of her third part of the whole vill of Derisburi, in Halytonsire; they giving in exchange to her and Henry de Bechinton and Alice his wife all their land in Pulton in Waley, Lisecare, and Secumbe. Witnesses:—Sir Geoffrey de Chedle and Sir Geoffrey de Werburton, knights, Adam de Hutton, and others (named). Seal.

A. 194

Cheshire

Grant by Beatrice de Deresburi to William her son, of the land William de Mara formerly held of her in Deresburi, and all her new assarted land, with incident privileges, at a yearly rent of 1 Ib. of pepper during her life. Witnesses : — Sir Thomas de Dutton, Sir Geoffrey de Clifton, and others (named).

from Woods:

An early thirteenth charter contains a grant by William son of William de Deresbury confirming to William the clerk, son of Gilbert de Lisnecarke, 4 bovates of land in Lisnecarke, which the grantor's father had given to William in marriage with his sister Emma. This estate, possibly derived from the radman of 1086, descended to Henry Norris of Daresbury in right of Margery his wife, and they exchanged their lands in Liscard and other places with Henry de Bechinton and Alice his wife and Isabel de Derisbury, widow of Alan de Lascelis, receiving lands in Daresbury. It may be accepted that Margery, Alice and Isabel were the Daresbury co-heirs. Henry de Bechinton and Alice his wife granted to John son of Matthew de Thornton 2 bovates of land in Lisecarck in marriage with their daughter Margery. This may be the same grant by which William son of William Torond in 1331 claimed a messuage and 2 bovates of land in Liscark against Robert son of Reginald de Liscark and Agnes his wife, alleging a grant by Henry de Becheton to John Torond in free marriage with Margery his daughter ; after the deaths of John and his wife and William their son, he said the tenement should come to him as grandson. However it happened, the grant appears to have lapsed, for in 1295 Henry and Alice de Bechinton gave the 2 bovates to their younger son John, their elder son Matthew confirming, and the estate descended in this line to Ellen, daughter and heir of Philip de Becheton, some sixty years later. 

Commentary

David Topping, in a post of 18 February 2014 to soc.genealogy.medieval, makes a reasonable argument that Alice was a daughter of William de Daresbury. What appears to have happened is that the younger William de Daresbury had three daughters and heiresses: Beatrice, who married Roger de Ireland, Isabel, who married Alan de Lascelles, and Alice, who married Henry de Bechinton. (Margery and Maud were two daughters of Beatrice.)

References

A Descriptive Catalogue of Ancient Deeds: Volume 1 (Her Majesty’s Stationery Office, 1890).

Lancashire Inquests, Extents, and Feudal Aids. A.D. 1205 – A.D. 1307 (William Farrer, ed.) (The Record Society, 1903)

Ormerod, George; Peter Leycester; William Smith; William Webb; and Thomas Helsby. The history of the county palatine and city of Chester: compiled from original evidences in public offices, the Harleian and Cottonian mss., parochial registers, private muniments, unpublished ms. collections of successive Cheshire antiquaries, and a personal survey of every township in the county, incorporated with a republication of King's Vale royal and Leycester's Cheshire antiquities. (London: G. Routledge, 1882).

The Rylands Charters indexed at https://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/search/archives/29f0299f-5da1-342a-97a8-be3f70529866

Woods, E. Cuthbert “The Journal of John Hough, Lord of the Manor of Liscard” in Transactions of the Historic Society of Lancashire and Cheshire vol. 72 (1920).