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Le Thanh bantinphuongdong at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 2 23:30:50 PST 2015
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Dear List
Dear List
Im reading the second part of Tran Dinh's autobiography (avaylable here
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Preview by Yahoo ) and he mentioned an essay by Stein Tonnesson at the first international conference on Vietnam Studies in 1998. The Internet search lead to a whole booklet by SIDA. Is there any one still having the essay or booklet please?
Thank you very much
Hai
PS. In the third international conference on Vietnam Studies all the articles about civil society disappeared in the content book :)
Mr Le Thanh Hai, PhD, researcher, Polish Academy of Science
Gerald Jackson gerald at nias.ku.dk
Sat Jan 3 14:26:28 PST 2015
Dear Le Thanh Hai
From memory, Stein Tønnesson produced a report for Sida on behalf of NIAS (Nordic Institute of Asian Studies) back in 1994 or thereabouts. The report was subsequently published by NIAS c. 1994 as #16 in its NIAS Report series. The publication has long been out of print but we have an archive copy that I could get scanned and sent to you.
Stein, however, might have something more immediately to hand. I am copying him on this.
All the best
Gerald Jackson
Editor in Chief, NIAS Press
Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, Øster Farimagsgade 5, 1353 Copenhagen K, DENMARK
Tel: (+45) 3532 9503 * Fax: (+45) 3532 9549
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Gerald Jackson gerald at nias.ku.dk
Fri Jan 9 05:58:32 PST 2015
Dear David and Le Thanh Hai
The report has now been scanned and is accessible at:
Warm regards
Gerald
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Gerald Jackson
Editor in Chief, NIAS Press
Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, Øster Farimagsgade 5, 1353 Copenhagen K, DENMARK
Tel: (+45) 3532 9503 * Fax: (+45) 3532 9549
E-mail: gerald at nias.ku.dk
Twitter: @niaspress
Blog: http://gettingpublished.wordpress.com
Anh Pham gaupvn at gmail.com
Fri Jan 9 06:15:04 PST 2015
Professor Tonneson's words about Democratization from Above, the last of
the three possible scenarios listed at the end of the report, still ring
especially true today as the Party prepares for its 12th Congress. Thank
you Mr. Jackson for scanning and sharing this report. Because of its
Swedish connection, I heard it was well-received in Hanoi.
Anh Pham
Washington DC
Andrew Pearson pearson.drew at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 10:38:11 PST 2015
A very ordinary journalistic perspective: democracy democracy democracy… one man/woman one vote. What a failure. Certainly in the US. It’s government by bozo. By corrupt lobbyists. Step right up, buy your leaders here… Neanderthals running things. Of course I mean mostly the Republicans running Congress, but some Democrats too. What a system. Few citizens even bother to vote. Or read, or know anything. Information for too many “citizens” means propaganda from Fox “news.” Save me, I’m drowning. A parliamentary system avoids some of that idiocy. But what about returning to the Mandarin exam? Oh, not that one exactly, but a different kind of exam for today’s complexities that anybody who wants to run for national office has to take to be eligible. An exam that tests for knowledge of some basics: world history, ethics, physics, biology, geography, world cultures; that requires knowing a second language, at least- that would be easy in the rest of the world, but “far out” in the US; experience serving in a volunteer international organization far from home. You get what I mean. What if some of the Bozo Republicans who have been president in the last sixty years just hadn’t been in charge because they messed up on the Right to Serve, Super Mandarin exam and in this mythical political status I’m dreaming about, had never been there. And what if the bozo communist party in Vietnam were just a bit more with it and realized that it’s quite normal for people to express themselves freely. It’s just an opinion. Is the “party” so feeble it can’t listen to opinion without fearing collapse. If Ho were around, they'd probably have him in jail. The Party was good at war, but clueless at governing. The American example of democracy reeks with failure. Maybe Denmark or Sweden have some good ideas. My advice to the politburo is travel more, to Scandinavia. And open the prison doors.
Shawn McHale mchale at gwu.edu
Sun Jan 11 11:16:26 PST 2015
This is a list on Vietnam, not on Denmark, the US, or Sweden.
Shawn McHale
George Washington University
Le Thanh bantinphuongdong at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 11 23:41:23 PST 2015
Dear Jackson Gerald et alI've checked my email expecting this email but somehow it went into spam, he he. But I've got it at last now. I don't know what to say to thank you very much for you help in finding and scanning the whole book. I will surely enjoy reading it, with a huge interest in comparing this view with the later ones by Carl Thayer, Irene Norlund, Russell Dalton, as well as the most current ones by Andres Wells-Dang and Joseph Hannah.Have a nice dayHai
From: Gerald Jackson <gerald at nias.ku.dk>
To: David Brown <nworbd at gmail.com>
Cc: "Tonnesson, Stein" <stonnesson at usip.org>; Le Thanh <bantinphuongdong at yahoo.com>; "vsg at u.washington.edu" <vsg at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Vsg] Stein Tonnesson's Democracy in Vietnam?
Dear David and Le Thanh Hai
The report has now been scanned and is accessible at:
Warm regards
Gerald
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Gerald Jackson
Editor in Chief, NIAS Press
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