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Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:12:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Balazs Szalontai" <aoverl@yahoo.co.uk>
To: vsg@u.washington.edu
Subject: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
Dear All,
may I have a question to the list members? Could you possibly tell
me when did the Democratic Republic of Vietnam establish diplomatic
relations with the following countries: Czechoslovakia, Poland, Romania,
Bulgaria, Albania and North Korea? These events must have happened in
February 1950 or so, but I would like to know the exact days if possible.
The dates that I already know are the following:
PRC: January 18, 1950
USSR: January 30, 1950
East Germany: February 3, 1950
Hungary: February 3, 1950
Mongolia: November 17, 1954.
Thanks in advance,
Balazs Szalontai
National University of Mongolia
Department of Political Science
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:36:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dan Tsang" <dtsang@lib.uci.edu>
To: "Vietnam Studies Group" <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
Maybe try this?
Should be available from Interlibrary loan...
Luu, Van Loi.
Title Ngoai giao Viet Nam : 1945-1995 / Luu Van Loi.
Publisher Ha Noi : Cong an nhan dan, 2004.
Description 823 p. : ill. ; 21 cm.
Note Includes bibliographical references.
Subject Vietnam -- Foreign relations -- History.
Vietnam -- Politics and government -- 1975-
Vietnam -- History -- 1975-
Format Book
Library UC Los Angeles UC Berkeley All
Library Call Number Availability Notes
UC Berkeley
Main DS556.57 .L86 2004 Circ status
So. Regional Library Facility
SRLF DS556.57 .L853 2004 Circ status AA0012746814
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From: Balazs Szalontai <aoverl@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Jan 27, 2006 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
Dear Mr. Tsang,
thank you so much for your advice! This book is indeed likely to include the information in which I am interested. The problem is that I am currently in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia, where even receiving a parcel mailed from Japan or the U.S. can be a quite complicated process, and so I doubt if I can get easily the book in question through interlibrary loan. May I ask whether any of the list members has access to this book?
All the best and thanks again,
Balazs Szalontai
From: Judith Henchy <judithh@u.washington.edu>
Date: Jan 27, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
Balazs,
We have this in our stacks. I'll see if I can take a quick look at it for you. If I can identify some pages, ILL may be able to fax you those pages, or send you scans. Do you have a fax machine?
Best
From: Judith Henchy <judithh@u.washington.edu>
Date: Jan 27, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
Actually, We also have this in English:
Author Luu, Van Loi
Unifrm title Nam muoi nam ngoai giao Viêt Nam, 1945-1995. English
Title Fifty years of Vietnamese diplomacy, 1945-1995 / Luu Van Loi
Pub info Hanoi : Thê Gioi Publishers, 2000-
From: Chung Nguyen <Chung.Nguyen@umb.edu>
Date: Jan 29, 2006 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
In Pham Dinh Nhan's "Almanach - Nhung Su Kien Lich Su Viet Nam", nxb Van Hoa Thong tin, Reprint 2001, there is a list of dates for the establishment diplomatic relations between VN and other countries (pp 1055-1056, alphabetically by country). There is alos another list, pp. 1049-1054, sequentially. Here's what I find (I hope I correlate the names correctly):
Czechoslovakia (VNese: XHCN Tiep Khac):
Feb 02, 1950: Recognition & establ. of diplomatic relations (a)
Dec 30, 1954: Presentation of ambassadorial credentials (b)
Poland (Ba Lan):
Feb 05, 1950 - (a)
Dec 25, 1954 - (b)
Romania (Rumani):
Feb 03, 1950
Apr 01, 1950
Bulgaria (Bungari):
Feb 08, 1950
June 26, 1957
Albania (Anbani):
Feb 18, 1950
Aug 30, 1956
and North Korea (CHDCND Trieu Tien):
Jan 31, 1950: (a)
Unlisted: (b)
Nguyen Ba Chung
From: Balazs Szalontai <aoverl@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Jan 30, 2006 4:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Vsg] diplomatic relations with the DRV
Dear Mr. Nguyen,
thank you so much for your kind assistance! It seems that there was a kind of pattern in the establishment of diplomatic relations between the "new" and "old" members of the so-called "Soviet bloc" in the 1948-1950 period. For instance, Albania was one of the last among the Communist countries to establish diplomatic relations with North Korea, the PRC, and East Germany, and now I see that this was true for the DRV as well. In contrast, North Korea, probably due to her relative geographical proximity, recognized the DRV before any other Communist country except the two Great Powers (the USSR and the PRC). This seems to be similar to the fact that Mongolia recognized North Korea before all the other countries except the Soviet Union. What still appears quite strange is that Mongolia established diplomatic relations with the DRV more than four years later than the other coun! tries. May I ask you and the other list members whether you have any explanation for this unusual delay?
All the best,
Balazs
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