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Date: Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:41 PM
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Dear colleagues,
Has anyone heard about this? A colleague was asking me about a 1779 legal case they had heard about, in which the Qing government sentenced two Chinese miners to death for “illicitly crossing the border and colluding with foreigners,” i.e. marrying women from “Annan.” I have some vague memory of Caludine Salmon mentioning this, but I cannot find anything. Apparently Randle Edwards cites this case in an article about Qing border control but the citation is faulty. Perhaps someone has heard of this from our side of the border? Or of any similar cases?
Best regards,
Charles W.
Charles J. Wheeler
Hong Kong Institute of Humanities and Social Sciences
The University of Hong Kong
Room G-09, May Hall
Pokfulam, Hong Kong
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From: Tai, Hue-Tam
Date: 2012/2/26
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Hi Charles,
Vu Duong Luan's paper for our conference will be about Nong Van Van (1833-35)' and involves miners both Vietnamese (mostly minority) and Chinese. I expect he might be the best person to know about an event such as this.
Hue Tam
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From: Vu Duong Luan
Date: 2012/2/27
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Dear Charles,
I has checked my data and found out some information on the crossing events in 1799 from Qingshilu (???). However, it mostly only focuses on border crossing people and barbarian wife (??) while the concerning with the Chinese miners is not much clearly. Anyway, I also show it here and hoping that it could be useful for your colleague.
Regarding to the marriage relations between Chinese miners and the barbarian women on Sino-Vietnam borderland, though I could not find any evidence or case directly at present, but I remember that Qing chronicles many times repeatedly worried about Chinese marrying barbarian women, and that while some stayed there, others traveled back and forth, treating Annam as their own country. In 19th century, even one of Nong Van Van ‘s wives was a Chinese and her family lived in the other side of the border.
Best,
Luan
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Vu Duong Luan
Ph.D Candidate, Department of History (USSH)
Junior Research Fellow, Institute of Vietnamese Studies and Development Sciences, Vietnam National University, Hanoi
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