The three nos
Bill Hayton bill.hayton at bbc.co.uk
Tue Apr 14 16:31:02 PDT 2015
Dear VSG,
Would anyone know if there was a moment when the CPV formally adopted the 'three nos' - no foreign bases, no alliances, no using one country against another - as policy and when the policy emerged into the public domain?
Thank you
Bill Hayton
Independent researcher
David Marr david.marr at anu.edu.au
Wed Apr 15 17:15:57 PDT 2015
It sounds like something out of the late 1950s, or perhaps the PRG in 1969?
David Marr
ANU
François Guillemot francois.guillemot at ens-lyon.fr
Thu Apr 16 02:12:56 PDT 2015
Dear Bill Hayton,
the answer should be in the "white books" of Quan Doi Nhan Dan Viet Nam
(pdf online) ;
see for example the "1998 white book" online (pp. 19-20) :
Vie^.t Nam cu?ng co^' quo^'c phòng ba?o ve^. To^? quo^'c (Sách tra('ng
Quo^'c phòng Vie^.t Nam 1998)
but mentionned more in "3 nos" style in the "2004 white book" [p. 5]:
Quo^'c phòng Vie^.t Nam (Sách tra('ng Quo^'c phòng Vie^.t Nam 2004)
Vie^.t Nam chu? tru+o+ng không tham gia ba^'t ky` liên minh quân su+.
nào; không cho nu+o+'c ngoài ?a(.t ca(n cu+' quân su+. ta.i Vie^.t Nam;
không tham gia ba^'t ky` hoa.t ?o^.ng quân su+. nào su+? du.ng vu~ lu+.c
hay ?e doa. su+? du.ng vu~ lu+.c ?o^'i vo+'i các n u+o+'c khác,
nhu+ng sa(~n sàng tu+. ve^. cho^'ng la.i mo.i hành ?o^.ng xâm pha.m lãnh
tho^? trên bo^., vùng tro+`i, vùng bie^?n và lo+.i ích quo^'c gia cu?a
Vie^.t Nam; không cha.y ?ua vu~ trang nhu+ng luôn cu?ng co^' su+'c ma.nh
quo^'c phòng ?u? ?e^? tu+. ve^..
and reitered in the "2009 white book" (p. 21) :
Quo^'c phòng Vie^.t Nam (Sách tra('ng Quo^'c phòng Vie^.t Nam 2009)
Thu+.c hie^.n chính sách quo^' c phòng ?o^.c la^.p, tu+. chu?, Vie^.t
Nam xây du+.ng su+'c ma.nh quo^'c ph òng ba(`ng nguo^`n lu+.c mo.i ma(.t
cu?a ?a^'t nu+o+'c và con ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Nam. Vì va^.y, Vie^.t Nam chu?
tru+o+ng không tham gia các to^? chu+'c liên minh quân su+., không cho
nu+o+'c ngoài ?a(.t ca(n cu+' quân su+. hoa(.c su+? du.ng lãnh tho^?
cu?a mình ?e^? cho^'ng la.i nu+o+'c khác.
Best,
FG
Quynh Le lequynh78 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 03:53:44 PDT 2015
It seems the first edition of the White Paper, published in 1998, also used
these phrases, but you need to check its language carefully and compare it
with later editions.
Quynh Le
BBC World Service, London
Fox, Diane dnfox at holycross.edu
Thu Apr 16 07:36:16 PDT 2015
This is perhaps something of a tangent, but I hear in these phrasings
echoes of the "noi luc" sentiment expressed with regard to the debates over
whether or not to appeal to foreigners for help with the legacies of Agent
Orange... no text I can point you to, unfortunately, just notes from a
conversation with a woman working with the VN Red Cross in the Agent Orange
Victims Fund, c 1997-99.
Diane
Diane Fox
Adjunct Associate Professor of Anthropology
College of the Holy Cross
Sophie Quinn-Judge sophie.quinnjudge at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 07:45:39 PDT 2015
Dear Bill and others,
I would guess that David Marr is right, that you should go back to the
1950s to look for similar policy statements. The Three No's sound like a
statement of the basic ideas of neutralism, peaceful coexistence or
non-alignment, which were first articulated around the time of the Bandung
Conference.
Sophie Quinn-Judge
Center for Vietnamese Philosophy, Culture and Society
Temple University
Quynh Le lequynh78 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 16 07:53:51 PDT 2015
There was a political report by Ho Chi Minh in 1964, in which he read
similar lines:
"Cũng như Chính phủ nước Việt Nam Dân chủ Cộng hoà, chính quyền miền Nam
phải thực hiện nghiêm chỉnh những điều khoản rất trọng yếu: không tham gia
liên minh quân sự với nước ngoài; không cho phép nước ngoài lập cǎn cứ quân
sự, không nhận nhân viên quân sự nước ngoài vào đất nước mình."
Quỳnh
Bill Hayton bill.hayton at bbc.co.uk
Thu Apr 16 14:16:14 PDT 2015
I salute you all, thank you very much.
Bill Hayton
independent researcher