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From: Stephen R Denney <sdenney@uclink.berkeley.edu>

To: seasia-l@msu.bitnet

Subject: VN: PEN's Work for POC Nguyen Van Thuan

The article below was written by John Lorinc and Lori Anderson of PEN

Canada for the March 1994 issue of the Newsletter of the Canadian Centre,

International P.E.N. (address of newsletter and Centre: Suite 309,

Ryerson Ave., Toronto, Ontario M5T 2P3.

John and Lori are both on Internet and would be interested in any

feedback. Their e-mail addresses are anderson@hookup.net for Lori and

jlorinc@hookup.net for John.

- Steve Denney

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Minder's Report: Co-Minders Collaborate on Nguyen Van Thuan

by John Lorinc and Lori McDougall

When we began, the imprisoned writer wwhose case we had been

assigned to monitor was no more than an unpronounceable name. Our group

--seven editors and reporters for Quill & Quire, the trade magazine which

covers the Canadian publishing industry -- had applied during the summer of

1993 to mind a prisoner under the International PEN WiPC program and the

London office sent back a list of names of Vietnamese dissidents who'd been

sent to jail for their involvement with a samiszdat newsletter entitled

Freedom Forum.

Several of the dissidents had been adopted by other PEN chapters;

we were asked if we would like to mind a man by the name of Nguyen Van

Thuan. Although a lot was known about the career and condition of the

magazine's founder, Dr. Doan Viet Hoat, and some of the other contributors,

there was very little information extant about our charge. In fact, the only

details available came from Asia Watch, a Washington-based human rights

group -- and their knowledge of his background was, at the time, sketchy and

somewhat contradictory. Basically, all we knew was that Nguyen Van Thuan

worked for the South Vietnamese Interior Ministry prior to the U.S.

withdrawal in 1975.

This one fact left us feeling a little uneasy, because interior

ministries typically have responsibility for the police, intelligence and

security forces. What's more, the former South Vietnamese government had an

especially poor human rights record. An Amnesty International report from

1973 noted the widespread use of torture for political prisoners, including

electric shocks, water deprivation, shackles and "tiger cages" (cells in

which a prisoner could neither sit nor stand).

We decided to do some research to see if we could glean any further

information about Nguyen Van Thuan, from Vietnamese community groups,

academics, government sources, libraries, etc. The first solid lead came

from Dinah PoKempner, who deals with the Freedom Forum case for Asia Watch.

After explaining how to pronounce his name ("Ne-win Van Twan" or N-V-T as

we now refer to him), she told us that he wrote under two other pseudonyms,

and provided more precise information about his arrest and trial (this sort

of data appears in official notices in the Vietnamese press and reports

from news sources in the region, particularly the "Far Eastern Economic

Review"). Ms. PoKempner also gave us the names and phone numbers of the

brothers of two prominent Vietnamese prisoners of conscience, both of whom

live in the U.S.

Contacting the brothers proved to be a turning point. One, Dr.

Nguyen Quoc Quan, provided us with plenty of information about the case of

his brother, Dr. Nguyen Dan Que, a physician and dissident sent to prison

for organizing the Hide Tide of Humanism movement in 1989. Dr. Quan

told us that NVT was a member of this organization as well as the Freedom

Forum.

Founded in 1989, the movement was a direct response to

the wave of revolutions that had toppled the communist governments of

Eastern Europe. years earlier, Dr. Que had found himself in prison for

criticizing the Vietnamese government's standards of health care. Amnesty

International took up his case and he was released after 10 years, in 1988,

only to be thrown in jail again two years later. Dr. Quan now lobbies on

behalf of his brother, and the case has been taken up by a few American

politicians, including Virginia senator Charles Robb. As a result of his

work, Dr. Que has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Dr. Quan knew a little bit about NVT, and was able to confirm that

he had, in fact, been associated with Dr. Que's human rights movement. But

Hien Doan, the brother of Freedom Forum founder Doan Viet Hoat, proved to

be even more helpful in tracking down information about NVT. Mr. Doan knew

that NVT's son, Nguyen Dai Tin, had recently emigrated to the United States

and was living in San Jose, California. Offering to serve as a go-between,

he contacted the son, and was able to obtain for us photographs of NVT (an

old wedding photo, a passport mug shot and an illict snapshot taken in jail

during a visit last May), a biography outlining NVT's career, and copies of

official documents, possibly pertaining to his arrest. The son wrote to us

through Mr. Doan, thanking PEN for its concern. "They [i.e. the defendants

in the Freedom Forum case] understand that it is unlawful to do such

activities in a communistic nation," he wrote. "They did not want their

works concern their children. That is why I do not know what my father's

role was in Freedom Forum."

What we have come to know about NVT is this: born in 1933 in North

Vietnam, he taught literature at high school, wrote several books and later

worked as a journalist and "a specialist" at the interior ministry. After

the fall of Saigon in 1975, he spent eight years in a "re-education camp"

(this was the fate of many bureaucrats and soldiers associated with the

South Vietnamese regime). His release report described him as having "no

indications of bad thoughts against the revolution and recognizing the

values of re-education." NVT eventually joined the Freedom Forum and the

Non Violent Movement for Human Rights, a decision which led to his arrest

in 1990.

At present, he is serving an 18 year sentence for his participation

in the Hide Tide movement, and for being found in possession of a copy of

Freedom Forum. Until January, he had served his sentence in a number of

locations, including the Thuan Hai labour camp near Ham Tan, a costal town

due east of Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) and the Z30 A-KG Xuan Loc labour camp

in Dong Nai province. As for his status, family visits are allowed once a

month. He may not receive letters. And, according to his son, the prison's

living conditions are "very poor". NVT is required to perform forced labour

and his mental and physical health is said to be "greatly deteriorated."

Last January, NVT suffered a stroke, shortly before the U.S.

government lifted the trade embargo against Vietnam. The prison authorities

contacted his youngest daughter, who picked him up and drove him to Saigon,

where she tried to get him admitted to a civilian hospital. What happened

was that this 61-year-old man essentially lay in a truck, unconscious, for

four days, while she looked for an institution willing to take him. When no

civilian hospital would admit him -- perhaps because he has been convicted

of trying to overthrow the government -- she finally found a bed in a

military hospital in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), but it is apparently very poorly

equipped medically. Prison authorities have given him 30 days to recuperate,

at which time he'll be sent back to the labour camp.

Postscript (June 17, 1994): Since the publication of this article,

we have learned from family members living in California that NVT's health

began to improve during his stay in hospital, and that the prison

authorities gave him permission to remain there until he had recovered more

fully. The family members told us that the concession made by the government

had to do with pressure applied by PEN members worldwide, who wrote letters

calling for his release, and from Amnesty International, which issued a

medical alert warning to its network of physicians shortly after we informed

them of NVT's condition. In the hospital, he is able to see family members

everyday (despite the security officials posted to watch his room), and they

bring him both food and medicine, using money sent over by his family in the

U.S. PEN Canada has contacted a delegation of Vietnamese officials currently

visiting Canada to request NVT's release on humanitarian grounds."

Recently published in PROLOGUE: QUARTERLY OF THE NATIONAL

ARCHIVES is a three-part article describing records related to

Vietnam. The first part, by Charles Shaughnessy, describes the

scope and content of the textual records collection.

Approximately 30,000 cubic feet of materials created in the

Republic of Vietnam by army commands and Joint Service

headquarters were transferred to the National Archives in 1987.

To date, about half have been processed and about 6,000 feet

opened to researchers. An estimated 5,000 cubic feet of records

remain closed due to their security classification.

The second part of this article is by Margaret O'Neill Adams of

the Center for Electronic Records. Her article describes the

variety of records in the Center's collection as split into two

main categories; military and nonmilitary records.

a) Military records include the following: Combat Area Detail

and Summary Files (OPREA), 1961-1973, Combat Naval Gunfire

Support File (CONGA), Mar. 1966-Jan. 1973, Mine Warfare

Activities File (MINEA), May 1972-Jan. 1973, Naval

Surveillance Activities File (NAVSA), Feb 22, 1966-Dec. 9,

1972, Situation Report Army File (SITRA), 1966-1973, the

[Southeast Asia] Combat Area Casualties Database, Hamlet

Evaluation System (HES), Jan 1967-Jan 1974, Herbicide File

(HERBO-2), 1965-1970, Military Prime Contract File, 1966-

1975, Phung Hoang Management Information System, Jan 1969-

Jun 1972, Combat Operations Loss and Expenditure Data-

Vietnam, 1968-1970, National Police Infrastructure Analysis

System (NPIASS), Subsystems I and II, 1971-1973, and the

Army Adjutant General's Center Casualty Information System,

1961-1981.

b) Nonmilitary records cover a number of topics and were

collected from a variety of government agencies.

Nonmilitary records related to Vietnam include the

following: the Survey of Campus Incidents as Interpreted by

Collecge Presidents, Faculty Chairmen, and Student Body

Presidents (RG 220, Records of Temporary Committees,

Commissions, and Boards - the President's Commission on

Campus Unrest), a number of public opinion polls conducted

by the US Information Agency during the early 1970's, and

the Consistency Audit Data Base and Demographic Survey of

Applicants (RG 429, Records in the Exective Office of the

President, The Presidential Clemency Board, 1974-1975).

The third part of the article, by Elizabeth Hill, briefly

describes the collection of photographs in the Still Pictures

Branch of the National Archives. These photographs have only

recently been transferred to the Archives and contains

approximately 60,000 images. The bulk of the records date from

1964-1971.

For those interested in obtaining a copy of this issue of

PROLOGUE, individual copies of the Spring 1991 issue (Vol. 23,

No. 1), can be ordered for $3.00 each. Please make check or

money order payable to the National Archives Trust Fund (NEPS)

and send to the Cashier, National Archives, Washington, DC

20408.

For specific questions about electronic records from the Vietnam

Era, the Reference Services office of the Center for Electronic

Records can be contacted at (202) 501-5579 or via BITNET at

TIF@NIHCU. Our address is Center for Electronic Records (NNX),

Reference Services, ATTN: Margaret Adams, Washington, DC 20408.

Theodore Hull

Archival Services Branch

Center for Electronic Records

---

The Center for Electronic Records, National Archives,

reproduces and distributes copies of the Combat Area

Casualties Current File (1957-1989). This file con-

tains records with final data on U.S. military per-

sonnel who died as a result of hostilities (killed

in action, died from wounds, died while missing,

or died while captured) or other causes (died from

injury or illness, nonhostile; died from other non-

hostile causes; died while missing, nonhostile) in

Cambodia, Communist China, Laos, North Vietnam,

South Vietnam, or Thailand during the conflict in

Southeast Asia.

The file is made available in two formats: as a

machine readable dataset (cost $90, plus documenta-

tion) or as a hardcopy printout. Printouts for

the entire file (58,152 records) cost $48. In

addition, the Center for Electronic Records makes

available state lists of casualties arranged either

by 'home of record' or alphabetically by the cas-

ualties last name for $4.50 per list with a minimum

order of $6.00.

For further information about the content of the data-

set, please contact the staff in the reference section

of the Center for Electronic Records. The address is:

Center for Electronic Records (NNX)

Attn: Margaret Adams

National Archives

Washington, DC 20408

The Center may also be contacted at (202)501-5579

THEODORE J. HULL

Archives Specialist

Center for Electronic Records

------

The Center for Electronic Records of the National Archives and

Records Administration has recently made available a brochure

titled "Information About Electronic Records in the National

Archives for Prospective Researchers." This brochure attempts to

answer general questions about the Center, the scope of our

holdings, access restrictions, and reference services. Copies of

this brochure may be obtained by replying to TIF@NIHCU.BITNET;

by writing to Center for Electronic Records (NNX), ATTN: Margaret

Adams, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington,

DC 20408; or by calling (202) 501-5579.

TED HULL

Center for Electronic Records

National Archives

>From anders@cce-mail.hut.fi

Subject: Member profile - Vietnam

Universities in Vietnam, long isolated from most of the

international scientific community, are facing severe

problems brought about by global political and economic

changes. With the doi moi-opened door-policy of the

Vietnamese Government in recent years, the national social

and economic development and international relations are

increasing rapidly. As a result, the demands on highly

qualified manpower for telecommunications become utmost

urgent problem.

>From anders@cce-mail.hut.fi

Subject: The Hanoi National Polytechnic University (HPU) is the

oldest and largest of Vietnam's three technical universities.

The two other universities of technology are located in the

south, in Danang and Ho Chi Minh City.

Based on the former Indo-Chinese Institute from French

colonial time, HPU was founded in 1956. The main task of the

HPU has been to provide qualified engineers for rebuilding

country after the war and to develop industry in such fields

as energy, mechanical engineering, chemistry, metallurgy,

electronics and telecommunications.

Currently, annual enrollment is 800 students and to date the

university has trained more than 25,000 engineers,

representing most branches of engineering and technology. The

full-time program is a five-year degree leading to an

"Engineer of Technology" degree, which the university equates

to a Bachelor's degree.

Since 1976 HPU has trained postgraduates (M.S.). There are

50 postgraduate students every year on two-year programs.

HPU also undertakes other forms of further training and

continuing education for postgraduate engineers with an aim

to give them the latest know-how, consolidate their basic and

primary knowledge, as well as acquaint trainers with research

methods on profound professional matters. Such training is

organized in long-time courses of 3-12 months or specialized

courses of several weeks.

>From anders@cce-mail.hut.fi

Subject: "Too much theory"

At present, Vietnam's public expenditure for personnel

training and science study are far behind the demand. This is

felt also at HPU.

Most of the facilities of the University which were provided

by the Soviet Union in 1965 are now quite out of date. Some

donor agencies have assisted the institution, for example a

Dutch donation of some equipment for the solid physics and

automatic control areas five years ago. Some French

assistance is provided for postgraduate training.

"In an under-developed country like Vietnam, our training

program has shown many shortcomings," says Professor Hoang

Trong Yem, Rector of the Hanoi National Polytechnic

University. "There has been too much theory and too little

practice and students rarely have access to modern industry."

Access to updated information on international scientific

and technical development also hinders both students and

teachers, and there is lack of reference books, documents and

facilities.

"We have a rather well-qualified teaching staff of more than

nine hundred," said Professor Hoang. "Of these, 42 per cent

have a Master's or Ph.D. degree, and ten per cent are

professors or assistant professors."

Professor Hoang feels confident that his graduate engineers

still can meet the production demand in Vietnam. "It is,

however, urgent for them to be further trained in business

management and scientific and technical development to meet

the requirement of a market-oriented economy in the future."

>From anders@cce-mail.hut.fi

Subject: First in continuing education

HPU was the first institution to carry out continuing

education in Vietnam and the University's Center for

Continuing Education is the biggest in the country. As the

other departments, it is short of documents and facilities.

Professor Pham Duc Gia, director of the center complains of

the severe lack of equipment and funds.

"We have one computer terminal classroom with a Soviet made

IBM 360 clone EC 1022, provided by the USSR in 1965. We have

eight continuing education auditoriums, but the state only

provides finance of an equivalent of US $40,000 per year.

This centre can therefore train only 50 postgraduate students

each year.

Also the equipment of the other department laboratories are

used for continuing education, but they suffer from the same

problems. For example, the five laboratories in the

Department of Radioelectronics and Communications have one

workshop for students' practical exercises and one computer

room with three IBM-PC AT/XT microcomputers.

"Except for the computers, almost all equipment in the

laboratories is are very old, made 20, or even 30 years ago,"

says Professor Pham Duc Gia. "Many of these are not any more

in use. For example, all the LF generators were made in the

1960s, but only one of them is still usable."

>From anders@cce-mail.hut.fi

Subject: Desperate need for equipment

A lot of the laboratory exercises and student practice work

are based on electronic tube models. "These were relevant

twenty years ago, but now they have only historical value,"

shrugs Pham.

"Our training efforts need external financing to become

fruitful and to help promoting the process of

industrialization and solving the poor conditions in

Vietnam."

The library is an important source of information. Before

1990, most of the literature came from the Soviet Union and

Eastern European countries. But with the changes that have

taken place in Eastern Europe this source does not exist any

more. Lack of hard currency makes the shortage of scientific

literature particularly serious.

The Vietnamese Government provides the University budget for

research and training, including the fund for employee

salaries, funds for laboratory equipment and the library, and

student scholarships. However, the total state budget for

education and training is less than 0.5 per cent of the

national budget.

The Hanoi Polytechnic University total annual budget is some

3 billion Vietnamese dong, equivalent of US $400,000. As the

largest part, about 2.5 billion, goes to salaries and

scholarships, the fund left for the equipment in the

individual departments is very small. Department of

Radioelectronics and Communications gets about 5 million dong

- less than US $700.

In addition to the state budget, the departments can earn

extra funds for their activities by carrying out contract

research work with industry. But the lack of modern

facilities and up-to-date information prevents this

contribution from growing substantially.

>From anders@cce-mail.hut.fi

Subject: Contact: Hanoi National Polytechnic University, 1

Duong Dai Co Viet, Hanoi, Vietnam, tel +84 42 62 115. AH

Following will appear in the next issue of the Indochina

Chronology (due out in late July). It may be useful to SEASIA-L

netters seeking bibliographic data on Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and

Southeast Asia. (Indochina Chronology is edited by Douglas Pike and

published by the Institute of East Asian Studies, U.C. Berkeley,

Berkeley, CA 94720).

NOTE ON BIBLIOGRAPHIC RESEARCH

There follows a guide to bibliographic data available at the

University of California (Berkeley) Indochina Archive, data are

available at no cost to anyone who can make his/her way to

northern California.

* Unit Nine: Bibliography. In three subsections:

-- Sub-Section A: Published Bibliographies. Lists of books

on Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, some running to 400 pages. Some

general, some special topic such as Sino-Vietnamese relations;

some "recommended reading lists" produced by the Library of

Congress, and others.

-- Sub-Section B: Book Reviews. Published reviews of

virtually every Indochina book written for the past 30 years (in

some cases as many as 50 reviews of the same work). Listed

alphabetically by author or publisher.

* Indochina Chronology - Since its inception in 1982 the

editors of Indochina Chronology have sought to offer an annotated

list of all books and all significant periodical articles on the

three Indochina countries they can lay their hands on published

in the previous quarter. Collectively this represents perhaps the

most complete, certainly the most accessible, listing of current

published works on the three Indochinese countries. We also

publish a listing of all unpublished papers and monographs we

have received over the last quarter.

Subscription to the Indochina Chronology is $25/year, $40

for airmail overseas, check payable to Indochina Chronology.

Vietnam War data are available on-line from the American War

Library, Phill Coleman, Senior Librarian. Modem: 310-373-9792.

Address: 25601 Narbonne, Suite 6, Lomita, CA 90717-2513. The

user-friendly, menu-driven library also offers an extensive

collection of other materials on the Vietnam War including an

ever-expanding list of veterans and veteran associations willing

to share their experiences/materials with researchers. The

Library is well-organized in topic-specific wings so researchers

can quickly access detailed files on subjects of interest. The

Library accepts and publishes all works by researchers/historians

on the Vietnam War.

* ISP Published Bibliographies:

-- Five Hundred Books. Bibliographic reviews on Vietnam, Laos,

Cambodia, Indochina and Southeast Asia books from The Indochina

Chronology, 1982-88. (1988).

-- Indochina Bibliography (Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos). A

collection of 14 bibliographies principally of Indochina,

Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, but also including bibliographic

materials on Thailand and Southeast Asia. (1989).

-- Indochina Bibliography: Periodicals. Bibliographic reviews on

Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indochina and Southeast Asia periodical

articles from The Indochina Chronology, 1982 through 1987.

(1988).

-- Southeast Asia Reading Materials, Volumes I and II. Collection

of reading materials (61 entries plus 48 pages of maps and

graphics), used as a reader for a political science class on

Southeast Asia at U.C. Berkeley. (1984). Two volumes.

-- Inventory of Vietnam War Captured Documents, Volume I and

Volume II.

-- Vietnam War: An Official Standard Names Gazetteer. A listing

of 46,250 entries for places and features in North and South

Vietnam and the South China Sea as they existed during the

Vietnam War (1959-1975).

-- Vietnam War: A Bibliography. Book reviews drawn primarily from

The Indochina Chronology, arranged by topic. (1989).

-- Directory of Officials of Vietnam. A listing of officials

holding government and party posts, prepared by the Central

Intelligence Agency. (1988).

-- Dictionary of Vietnam War Terminology. A glossary of

terminology, acronyms, abbreviations and slang on the war.

(1986).

If you wish to obtain any of these monographs, contact us at

sdenney@uclink.berkeley.edu. You can also write to the director,

Douglas Pike, Institute of East Asian Studies, Univ. of

California , Berkeley, CA 94720; tel: (510) 642-6539; fax: (510)

643-9930.

G'day,

Following are 3 articles about education & health problems of VN highland

people, posted on VN-Ed Forum.

Pls discard this, if you've already subscribed to the VN-Ed list.

Regards,

Bi`nh.

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Email: anson@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au

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>From lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 7 21:29:56 1994

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:42:53 -0700

From: Luong Thu Huynh <lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>

To: vn-ed@vungtau.cerf.net

Subject: [ARTICLE] A Need for the Mountain Area

The Boarding School

A NEED FOR THE MOUNTAIN AREA

Viet Hung

Vietnam Pictorial 12/93

The Minority Pupils' Boarding School in Na May hamlet, Bac

Thai province, is one of 35 boarding schools in Vietnam that were

founded to help educate highland ethnic minorites in order to

eliminate the gap in education between students in the plain and

mountain areas.

The school opened in 1991-1992 with an enrollment of 100

pupils and a modest legacy, including some old houses left by the

former Teachers' College there. In the 1992-1993 school year, the

school enrolled 150 pupils, and in 1993-1994, 230 pupils, who are

members of the Tay, Nung, Xao, H'mong, Cao Lan, and San Chi

minority groups. The teachers here are also members of these

ethnic minority groups and graduated from the Teachers' College.

The school is now being upgraded gradually through aid from the

Ministry of Education and Training. Two new two-story buildings,

dining-houses, and kitchen were built for the pupils who both live

and learn at the school.

Another two-story building will be rebuilt and the school

yard will be widened and planted with trees of economic value,

including sandalwood and iron wood, and shade trees such as

flamboyant and terminalia. The lakes surrounding the school yard

are stocked with fish to make the grounds more beautiful and to

supplement the pupils' meals.

The school staff is located in a simple house with a tiled

roof. There we saw the assistant principal, Ban Van Thang,

receiving the couple Ban Van Dao of the Zao ethnic minority in Dinh

Hoa district, who came to visit their 10 year-old daughter in the

5th grade. Mr. Dao told us; "We have 6 children. We want to send

them to the school but cannot because we are so poor. The boarding

school gave priority to one of our children, Ms. Van. When see

her in nice dresses and learning letters, we feel assured."

Like Ban Thi Van, many pupils have lived in remote hamlets

and could not afford to go to school. Some pupils had to go on foot

all day to reach a road where they then waited for a bus. Now,

living in the boarding school, they are not only learning lessons

but also learning how to look after themselves. The teachers have

guided them with devotion and helped them to live better.

The Bac Thai boarding school pupils have learned well and

proven their talent. Dam Thi Khen, of the Cao Lan minority in Vo

Nhai district, is an outstanding student in the 6th grade. She was

chosen to attend the National Festival of the Ethnic Minorities'

Good Pupils held recently in Hanoi. Dam Thi Thai, a 9th grader of

the Tay in Na Ri district, won second prize at the Pioneer Beauty

Contest in Bac Can Town. Furthermore, in the National Culture and

Sports Festival of the Ethnic Minorities' Boarding Schools held in

September this year, the Bac Thai boarding school's chorus won the

bronze medal with the song "Grateful to the Flower Planters,"

composed by Principal Ha Xuan Hau.

Earlier this year, Mr. David Pgarson, representative of the

Ockenden Venture, donated a reading room to the school. This room,

called the David Pgarson-Ockenden Venture Reading Room, is equipped

with many books and magazines for the pupils' use. The school hopes

it will receive more such humanitarian gestures.

At nightfall, the Bac Thai boarding school is full of the

sounds of laughter, voices, "tinh" zithers, and songs. As one

writer said, "The pupils are our hope and the flowers of the

mountains and forests in the Bac Thai province."

************

>From lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 7 21:30:04 1994

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:38:20 -0700

From: Luong Thu Huynh <lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>

To: vn-ed@vungtau.cerf.net

Subject: [ARTICLE] Victims of Neglect

VICTIMS OF NEGLECT

Lack of education, poor health plague minorities

4/23/92

Murray Hiebert in Pleiku

[Posted without permission]

Only two out of the 96 Bana ethnic minority families in A Luk

village near Pleiku in the central highlands send their children

to the neighbourhood school 2 km away. Villagers say they need

their older children to help in the fields, and keep the younger

ones home because they fear they could get hurt by logging trucks

as they walk to school.

Vietnam has made impressive gains in educating its lowland

population in recent decades, but its minorities still lag far

behind. According to 1989 census figures, illiteracy among the

Bana stands at 80% against the national average of only 12%. But

for the Hmong of the northern highlands, the figures are even more

dismal. Only 10% of the group's members--and 3% of its women--can

read and write.

Only about 12,000 out of 400,000 school age Hmong children

currently attend school, says Vietnam's Deputy Minister of Education

Tran Xuan Nhi. In the central highlands the figures are somewhat

better, with 5,200 out of 57,000 school=age Jarai children attending

school.

Of the minority children who do go to school, only a tiny

proportion are girls. "We have the traditional idea that a boy

belongs to us and a daughter to someone else," says Giang Seo My, a

Hmong and head of the Women's Association in Lao Cai province. "When

she grows up she will get married and join another family. Until

then, we keep our daughters at home to help with housework."

Nhi says the shortage of teachers poses another problem. He

estimates that only 20% of the teachers in the highlands areas are

minorities themselves or ethnic Vietnamese who come from highland

areas. "Even if we offer teachers salaries of five to seven times

higher than that offered to teachers in the lowlands, they don't want

to go to the highlands because the living standards are so low and

it's so easy to get sick," he says.

To tackle this problem, the education ministry has begun

setting up boarding schools in highland areas. Nhi says four such

schools have been set up at the national level, 31 at the district

level and 100 in larger villages. The advantage of boarding schools

is that they can serve a scattered population with limited staff,

but the disadvantage is that the cash-short government cannot afford

to run them.

Officials readily admit that the government's curriculum,

developed for ethnic vietnamese, is often irrelevant to the lives of

minority children. Minority children are particularly disadvantaged

by the fact that Vietnamese, a language unknown to all but a handful

of them, is the medium of education. Nhi says his ministry is trying

to introduce teaching in minority languages in the fourth grade, but

admits this is difficult because only 12 of the 54 languages in the

country have a written form.

The highlands also pose unique health problems for Hanoi. The

incidence of malaria, which had been sharply reduced in the 1960s and

1970s, has been rising since the mid-1980s in the central highlands

and areas bordering Laos and Cambodia, says health ministry official

Dr. Le Duc Chinh.

One reason is that malaria in these areas has become resistant

to known drugs, Chinh says. Another is that Vietnam has lost its

supplies of cheap pesticides from the former Soviet Union. The health

ministry in 1990 recorded nearly 140,000 known cases of malaria, which

resulted in 3,340 deaths.

Goitre, caused by iodine shortages and believed to reduce its

victims' intellectual capacity, also plagues minority areas. Dr. Trinh

Tuyet Nhung, who heads Lao Cai province's health department, says

41-43% of the province's population suffer from the goitre compared

with only 3-4% of the people living in the Red River delta.

Although the Vietnamese Government claimed by the late 1980's

to have increased nationwide immunisation coverage for children under

one year to over 70%, children in the highlands still lag far behind.

In Gia Lai, 54% of the children under five have received some

vaccinations, while in Lao Cai the figure is only 52%, according to local

health officials.

Despite growing land pressures in the highlands, the

government's family planning efforts in the region have so far met with

almost no success. The army newspaper Quan Doi Nhan Dan reported in

March that the birth rate in Lao Cai province's Bac Ha district, a

predominantly Hmong area stood at 5% compared to the nationwide average

of 3.2% and the urban rate of 2.3%. The paper attributed the high rate

in part to the fact that 30% of the district's girls were married by the

time they were 14 years old.

************

>From lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 7 21:30:11 1994

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:42:01 -0700

From: Luong Thu Huynh <lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>

To: vn-ed@vungtau.cerf.net

Subject: [ARTICLE] Education in the Highlands

EDUCATION IN THE HIGHLANDS

Vu Huyen

Vietnam Pictorial 12/93

An interview with Doctor Nguyen Duy Luong, head of the Teachers'

Training College in Viet Bac, the northern highlands of Vietnam,

inhabited by a dozen national minorities.

Q- Over a quarter of century thousands of students have

graduated from the College, among them 3,000 sprung from national

minorities. This is no mean achievement given the wars and

upheavals shaking the country all these years. Tell us something

about the College, the policy it pursues, the obstacles if faces,

the road it has travelled...

A- The educational and cultural policies pursued by the

State with regard to the highlands have had a direct and favourable

influence on the development of the College. Unfortunately,

unfavourable factors are many: more than 20 years of wars and

upheavals and endemic economic difficulties. The College has had

to be relocated many times. Only a few years ago, it was

unthinkable that we could one day equip it with computers or

establish relations of cooperation with foreign institutions.

One should look into the hardships still being endured

by members of the staff. Their most cherished wish is to be able

one day to devote all their strength and energies to their

educational work.

Q- You have had a lont experience managing different college

at different places. What is in your view the interesting point

in training teachers sprung from national minorities?

A- With very few exceptions, teacher trainees coming from

national minorities are hard-working and open-minded. Provided they

benefit from the State's solicitude right from the start, they show

the same capacity to receive instruction as students from the

majority nationality. One notes among them an aptitude for artistic

and cultural activities which stems from well-preserved traditions.

Without those trainees there can be no future educational

personnel for the highlands for the peoples they come from are the

true masters of these remote places. Their voices, the prestige they

enjoy, and the practical results of their activities exert a decisive

influence on the implementation of the State policies on cultural and

educational development in the highlands.

In fact the aim of our College is not merely to train teachers,

but to form a body of skilled personel at the grassroots. College

alumni have become members of the National Assembly, chairmen and

vice chairmen of provincial administrations, directors of provincial

departments, headmasters of many college, etc.

Q- We have heard of preferential tratment for students coming

from remote areas in the highlands. How true is this?

A- Yes, some follow special curriculums. Others may repeat

their classes. But minimum requirements for graduation are maintained

for all.

Preferential treatment for certain categories of students stem

from specific conditions. We need personnel for the highlands. On

the other hand, local conditions are far from attractive: bad

infrastructure, low salaries, no prospect for further training, and so

on. It is not easy to persuade college graduates from the plains to

come and work here. Indeed, some highlander students do not want to

go back to their region of origin after graduation.

Q- How have you been trying to raise the standards of teaching?

A- At present our staff numbers nearly 400, including one

doctor, 25 candidate doctors and 7 associate professors who are college

alumni or graduates from Hanoi University, Hanoi Teachers' Training

College, or foreign institutions.

We have started a system of post-graduate studies to help train

personnel for our College, and for other regional or provincial economic

and scientific establishments.

Over the last few years we have been supplied with fairly

sophisticated equipment, e.g. a computer room; however we still face

difficulties in providing the staff with adequate housing and giving

them the benefit of various social policies.

Q- What about your external relations?

A- Mere opportunities to have contact with foreign institutions

are beneficial enough. Recently we received an invitation from the

Teachers' Training Institute of South China to come over and discuss

cooperation in educational matters. Before that our Ministry of

Education and Training had sent some members of our staff to Shantung

province in China in pursuance of research in educational fields.

Foreign experience in the development of education is most worthy of our

attention.

*************

G'day,

Following are 3 articles about education & health problems of VN highland

people, posted on VN-Ed Forum.

Pls discard this, if you've already subscribed to the VN-Ed list.

Regards,

Bi`nh.

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>From lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 7 21:29:56 1994

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:42:53 -0700

From: Luong Thu Huynh <lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>

To: vn-ed@vungtau.cerf.net

Subject: [ARTICLE] A Need for the Mountain Area

The Boarding School

A NEED FOR THE MOUNTAIN AREA

Viet Hung

Vietnam Pictorial 12/93

The Minority Pupils' Boarding School in Na May hamlet, Bac

Thai province, is one of 35 boarding schools in Vietnam that were

founded to help educate highland ethnic minorites in order to

eliminate the gap in education between students in the plain and

mountain areas.

The school opened in 1991-1992 with an enrollment of 100

pupils and a modest legacy, including some old houses left by the

former Teachers' College there. In the 1992-1993 school year, the

school enrolled 150 pupils, and in 1993-1994, 230 pupils, who are

members of the Tay, Nung, Xao, H'mong, Cao Lan, and San Chi

minority groups. The teachers here are also members of these

ethnic minority groups and graduated from the Teachers' College.

The school is now being upgraded gradually through aid from the

Ministry of Education and Training. Two new two-story buildings,

dining-houses, and kitchen were built for the pupils who both live

and learn at the school.

Another two-story building will be rebuilt and the school

yard will be widened and planted with trees of economic value,

including sandalwood and iron wood, and shade trees such as

flamboyant and terminalia. The lakes surrounding the school yard

are stocked with fish to make the grounds more beautiful and to

supplement the pupils' meals.

The school staff is located in a simple house with a tiled

roof. There we saw the assistant principal, Ban Van Thang,

receiving the couple Ban Van Dao of the Zao ethnic minority in Dinh

Hoa district, who came to visit their 10 year-old daughter in the

5th grade. Mr. Dao told us; "We have 6 children. We want to send

them to the school but cannot because we are so poor. The boarding

school gave priority to one of our children, Ms. Van. When see

her in nice dresses and learning letters, we feel assured."

Like Ban Thi Van, many pupils have lived in remote hamlets

and could not afford to go to school. Some pupils had to go on foot

all day to reach a road where they then waited for a bus. Now,

living in the boarding school, they are not only learning lessons

but also learning how to look after themselves. The teachers have

guided them with devotion and helped them to live better.

The Bac Thai boarding school pupils have learned well and

proven their talent. Dam Thi Khen, of the Cao Lan minority in Vo

Nhai district, is an outstanding student in the 6th grade. She was

chosen to attend the National Festival of the Ethnic Minorities'

Good Pupils held recently in Hanoi. Dam Thi Thai, a 9th grader of

the Tay in Na Ri district, won second prize at the Pioneer Beauty

Contest in Bac Can Town. Furthermore, in the National Culture and

Sports Festival of the Ethnic Minorities' Boarding Schools held in

September this year, the Bac Thai boarding school's chorus won the

bronze medal with the song "Grateful to the Flower Planters,"

composed by Principal Ha Xuan Hau.

Earlier this year, Mr. David Pgarson, representative of the

Ockenden Venture, donated a reading room to the school. This room,

called the David Pgarson-Ockenden Venture Reading Room, is equipped

with many books and magazines for the pupils' use. The school hopes

it will receive more such humanitarian gestures.

At nightfall, the Bac Thai boarding school is full of the

sounds of laughter, voices, "tinh" zithers, and songs. As one

writer said, "The pupils are our hope and the flowers of the

mountains and forests in the Bac Thai province."

************

>From lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 7 21:30:04 1994

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:38:20 -0700

From: Luong Thu Huynh <lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>

To: vn-ed@vungtau.cerf.net

Subject: [ARTICLE] Victims of Neglect

VICTIMS OF NEGLECT

Lack of education, poor health plague minorities

4/23/92

Murray Hiebert in Pleiku

[Posted without permission]

Only two out of the 96 Bana ethnic minority families in A Luk

village near Pleiku in the central highlands send their children

to the neighbourhood school 2 km away. Villagers say they need

their older children to help in the fields, and keep the younger

ones home because they fear they could get hurt by logging trucks

as they walk to school.

Vietnam has made impressive gains in educating its lowland

population in recent decades, but its minorities still lag far

behind. According to 1989 census figures, illiteracy among the

Bana stands at 80% against the national average of only 12%. But

for the Hmong of the northern highlands, the figures are even more

dismal. Only 10% of the group's members--and 3% of its women--can

read and write.

Only about 12,000 out of 400,000 school age Hmong children

currently attend school, says Vietnam's Deputy Minister of Education

Tran Xuan Nhi. In the central highlands the figures are somewhat

better, with 5,200 out of 57,000 school=age Jarai children attending

school.

Of the minority children who do go to school, only a tiny

proportion are girls. "We have the traditional idea that a boy

belongs to us and a daughter to someone else," says Giang Seo My, a

Hmong and head of the Women's Association in Lao Cai province. "When

she grows up she will get married and join another family. Until

then, we keep our daughters at home to help with housework."

Nhi says the shortage of teachers poses another problem. He

estimates that only 20% of the teachers in the highlands areas are

minorities themselves or ethnic Vietnamese who come from highland

areas. "Even if we offer teachers salaries of five to seven times

higher than that offered to teachers in the lowlands, they don't want

to go to the highlands because the living standards are so low and

it's so easy to get sick," he says.

To tackle this problem, the education ministry has begun

setting up boarding schools in highland areas. Nhi says four such

schools have been set up at the national level, 31 at the district

level and 100 in larger villages. The advantage of boarding schools

is that they can serve a scattered population with limited staff,

but the disadvantage is that the cash-short government cannot afford

to run them.

Officials readily admit that the government's curriculum,

developed for ethnic vietnamese, is often irrelevant to the lives of

minority children. Minority children are particularly disadvantaged

by the fact that Vietnamese, a language unknown to all but a handful

of them, is the medium of education. Nhi says his ministry is trying

to introduce teaching in minority languages in the fourth grade, but

admits this is difficult because only 12 of the 54 languages in the

country have a written form.

The highlands also pose unique health problems for Hanoi. The

incidence of malaria, which had been sharply reduced in the 1960s and

1970s, has been rising since the mid-1980s in the central highlands

and areas bordering Laos and Cambodia, says health ministry official

Dr. Le Duc Chinh.

One reason is that malaria in these areas has become resistant

to known drugs, Chinh says. Another is that Vietnam has lost its

supplies of cheap pesticides from the former Soviet Union. The health

ministry in 1990 recorded nearly 140,000 known cases of malaria, which

resulted in 3,340 deaths.

Goitre, caused by iodine shortages and believed to reduce its

victims' intellectual capacity, also plagues minority areas. Dr. Trinh

Tuyet Nhung, who heads Lao Cai province's health department, says

41-43% of the province's population suffer from the goitre compared

with only 3-4% of the people living in the Red River delta.

Although the Vietnamese Government claimed by the late 1980's

to have increased nationwide immunisation coverage for children under

one year to over 70%, children in the highlands still lag far behind.

In Gia Lai, 54% of the children under five have received some

vaccinations, while in Lao Cai the figure is only 52%, according to local

health officials.

Despite growing land pressures in the highlands, the

government's family planning efforts in the region have so far met with

almost no success. The army newspaper Quan Doi Nhan Dan reported in

March that the birth rate in Lao Cai province's Bac Ha district, a

predominantly Hmong area stood at 5% compared to the nationwide average

of 3.2% and the urban rate of 2.3%. The paper attributed the high rate

in part to the fact that 30% of the district's girls were married by the

time they were 14 years old.

************

>From lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 7 21:30:11 1994

Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:42:01 -0700

From: Luong Thu Huynh <lhuynh@EECS.Berkeley.EDU>

To: vn-ed@vungtau.cerf.net

Subject: [ARTICLE] Education in the Highlands

EDUCATION IN THE HIGHLANDS

Vu Huyen

Vietnam Pictorial 12/93

An interview with Doctor Nguyen Duy Luong, head of the Teachers'

Training College in Viet Bac, the northern highlands of Vietnam,

inhabited by a dozen national minorities.

Q- Over a quarter of century thousands of students have

graduated from the College, among them 3,000 sprung from national

minorities. This is no mean achievement given the wars and

upheavals shaking the country all these years. Tell us something

about the College, the policy it pursues, the obstacles if faces,

the road it has travelled...

A- The educational and cultural policies pursued by the

State with regard to the highlands have had a direct and favourable

influence on the development of the College. Unfortunately,

unfavourable factors are many: more than 20 years of wars and

upheavals and endemic economic difficulties. The College has had

to be relocated many times. Only a few years ago, it was

unthinkable that we could one day equip it with computers or

establish relations of cooperation with foreign institutions.

One should look into the hardships still being endured

by members of the staff. Their most cherished wish is to be able

one day to devote all their strength and energies to their

educational work.

Q- You have had a lont experience managing different college

at different places. What is in your view the interesting point

in training teachers sprung from national minorities?

A- With very few exceptions, teacher trainees coming from

national minorities are hard-working and open-minded. Provided they

benefit from the State's solicitude right from the start, they show

the same capacity to receive instruction as students from the

majority nationality. One notes among them an aptitude for artistic

and cultural activities which stems from well-preserved traditions.

Without those trainees there can be no future educational

personnel for the highlands for the peoples they come from are the

true masters of these remote places. Their voices, the prestige they

enjoy, and the practical results of their activities exert a decisive

influence on the implementation of the State policies on cultural and

educational development in the highlands.

In fact the aim of our College is not merely to train teachers,

but to form a body of skilled personel at the grassroots. College

alumni have become members of the National Assembly, chairmen and

vice chairmen of provincial administrations, directors of provincial

departments, headmasters of many college, etc.

Q- We have heard of preferential tratment for students coming

from remote areas in the highlands. How true is this?

A- Yes, some follow special curriculums. Others may repeat

their classes. But minimum requirements for graduation are maintained

for all.

Preferential treatment for certain categories of students stem

from specific conditions. We need personnel for the highlands. On

the other hand, local conditions are far from attractive: bad

infrastructure, low salaries, no prospect for further training, and so

on. It is not easy to persuade college graduates from the plains to

come and work here. Indeed, some highlander students do not want to

go back to their region of origin after graduation.

Q- How have you been trying to raise the standards of teaching?

A- At present our staff numbers nearly 400, including one

doctor, 25 candidate doctors and 7 associate professors who are college

alumni or graduates from Hanoi University, Hanoi Teachers' Training

College, or foreign institutions.

We have started a system of post-graduate studies to help train

personnel for our College, and for other regional or provincial economic

and scientific establishments.

Over the last few years we have been supplied with fairly

sophisticated equipment, e.g. a computer room; however we still face

difficulties in providing the staff with adequate housing and giving

them the benefit of various social policies.

Q- What about your external relations?

A- Mere opportunities to have contact with foreign institutions

are beneficial enough. Recently we received an invitation from the

Teachers' Training Institute of South China to come over and discuss

cooperation in educational matters. Before that our Ministry of

Education and Training had sent some members of our staff to Shantung

province in China in pursuance of research in educational fields.

Foreign experience in the development of education is most worthy of our

attention.

*************

Steve Denney has reintroduced the issue of religious freedom in Vietnam

and in particular the question of how religious practices and political

subversion are or are not connected--in his view, in my view, and in the

view of Vietnamese officials. I'll try to respond more specifically to

Steve's points shortly (although the books I need are all checked out

from the library and it'll take some time to recall them).

In the meantime, I ran across this BBC translation of an article in Quan

Doi Nhan Dan (People's Army Daily) that reflects some of the thinking of

Vietnamese officials on the issue of externally produced religious radio

broadcasting aimed at ethnic minorities in Vietnam. My clarifications

below are enclosed in double brackets; the remarks in parentheses and

single brackets are those of BBC-SWB.

Frank Proschan

BBC-SWB material follows:

Copyright 1994 The British Broadcasting Corporation

BBC Summary of World Broadcasts

August 23, 1994, Tuesday

SECTION: Part 3 Asia - Pacific; SOUTHEAST ASIA; VIETNAM; FE/2081/B ;

LENGTH: 1400 words

HEADLINE: INTERNAL AFFAIRS;

"Hostile forces" making use of ethnic minorities

SOURCE: Voice of Vietnam, Hanoi, in Vietnamese 1430 gmt 18 Aug 94

BODY:

Text of "article by Hoang Huan in the 20th August issue of 'Quan Doi Nhan

Dan'"

As our compatriots of various ethnic minority groups are characterized by

their diverse and complex emotions, customs and traditions and by their limited

education, hostile forces often take advantage of them to oppose and sabotage

our country's revolution. It is particularly noted that with the recent further

intensification of their peaceful evolution strategy to eradicate socialism in

our country, the imperialists have given specific attention to the ethnic

issue,

regarding this and the human rights and religious issues as an attacking

spearhead to sabotage us. They have sought to approach, infiltrate and

transform

a number of ethnic compatriots in the sensitive, inaccessible and remote areas

where economic difficulties are considerable and the people's intellectual

level

is still low. Through propaganda, they have incited national division in a bid

to establish autonomous zones for ethnic groups and thereby undermine our great

national unity bloc and cause the people to lose their confidence in the

renovation undertaking of our party and state.

Proceeding from this reality, we must study this attempt by hostile forces

substantively and scientifically if we are to foil it.

Looking back at history, we see that it is not only today, when the peaceful

evolution strategy exists, that the enemy has exploited the ethnic issue. The

old (French) and the new (US) colonialists once tried this in our country. From

1951 to July 1994, the French colonialists dropped 40 special forces teams of

1,074 men to areas inhabited by ethnic minority groups, mainly in Hmong ethnic

areas, so as to collude with reactionary elements to carry out piratic and

rebellious activities. From 1961-68, the United States dropped 18 special force

espionage teams of 114 men to the north-western region. From 1954-89, not to

mention the period from 1989 onwards, there were 35 cases of self-coronation

and

such ceremonies that caused trouble in ethnic minority areas. These cases are

evidence of international imperialist and reactionary forces' attempts to

oppose

and sabotage us by exploiting ethnicity.

A study of a certain ethnic groups, for instance the Hmong, will enable us

to

be more aware of this perfidious scheme. In our country, there are

approximately

450,000 Hmong scattered in various villages along the border of Lai Chau, Hoang

Lien Son, Ha Giang, Tuyen Quang, Son La, Thanh Hoa, Cao Bang, Nghe An and Ha

Tinh. The Hmong are characterized by their communal lifestyles divided

according

to clans . The Hmongs would support and assist the one who is in the same

clan, however distantly related irrespective of nationality. Secondly, they

highly respect the chiefs of their clans, like other ethnic minorities.

During their aggression against our country, the colonialists studied the

psychological make-up of the Hmong and tried to exploit them for their

aggressive designs. All of them, from (?Sevina), a Catholic father, to Gen

Salan, agreed that only by getting the support of the chief of an influential

clan could they win the hearts of the Hmong. In this way, they attained certain

results in their policy to use the Vietnamese to control the Vietnamese in the

areas of the Hmong, climaxing in the many turmoils between 1951-54.

[[This should be Savina, a French Catholic missionary who made dictionaries

and "histories" of the Hmong in the early years of French colonialism in VN.

FP]]

After the French lost their war, the Americans entered Indochina. The

Americans also used the areas inhabited by Hmong to oppose and sabotage the

Vietnamese revolution and other Indochinese countries. To win the support of

the

Hmong, the United States colluded with the Lao reactionaries in raising the

propaganda label: Autonomy for the Land of the Meo [another name for Hmong].

They appointed (?Phom Miniphong) as head of the state and Vang Pao as special

forces commander.

[[Does this refer to Phoumi Nousavan, right-wing military leader in the early

1960s?? FP]]

Today, international reactionaries are colluding to control areas inhabited

by Hmong under the label of the Federation of the Self-Ruled Indochinese Meo.

They are recruiting the most notorious reactionaries who once served as lackeys

of foreign countries such as (?Vang Chong), (?Hoanh Nenh), (?Giang Bi Cua) and

Vang Pao. They have even given the leadership of that reactionary federation to

Vang Pao and moved his command post in Thailand to the Golden Triangle. The

Federation of Self-Ruled Indochinese Meo is now cooperating with some other

exiled reactionary forces to sabotage Vietnam. For instance, the Vietnam

Renaissance Organization of Tran Trong Ha in California, USA, has also worked

out a programme of cooperation with that federation to oppose and sabotage the

Vietnamese revolution.

On the other hand, they have also organized ethnic-language broadcasts from

overseas to broadcast incendiary propaganda among the Hmong and destabilized

the

areas they inhabit inside Vietnam. These include the Hmong language radio

programmes from Radio FEBC which teaches Christianity. This programme quoted

King Vang claiming that Jesus Christ came down from heaven to care for the

Hmong

from the day they were born until they die. Therefore, Hmong people must

convert

to Christianity.

Thus, to foil the attempts by hostile forces to exploit the Hmong in

particular and other ethnic minorities at the border areas in general, we must

conduct many coordinated activities. First, we must carry out ideological work

to lay bare the enemy's perfidious schemes before the people. We must also

strengthen and consolidate the great unity bloc of ethnic groups in support of

the renovation process in the new stage.

With the promotion of national unity being regarded as the fundamental

policy

of our party and state, the idea of unity must be reflected in various policies

and lines of the party and the state. We must intensify various leadership

measures of the party and the local administration at various levels with

attention being given to the various areas - political, economic, social,

security, national defence and foreign relations - in order to meet the

interests, aspirations, rights, duty and obligation of citizens and the nation.

We must regard the interests of our multiethnic compatriots as the main goal

for building an equitable and civilized life, a prosperous people and a

powerful

country. This is very significant and must be a decisive factor in the struggle

to foil the enemy's attempts to sow national division.

Viewed from another angle, the Vietnamese people come from many ethnic

groups

with complex and diverse historical backgrounds, customs and traditions.

Therefore, we must firmly grasp the local situation and the psychological and

emotional traits of each ethnic group. For instance, while maintaining

relations

with the Hmong in our country, we must see this as a part of our ties with

Hmong

compatriots in Southeast Asia. Only by doing this will we be able to deal with

this issue scientifically and accurately, to orient the compatriots towards the

revolution without allowing them to be exploited by the enemy and to adopt

practical and accurate counter measures.

Obviously, we are required to be persistent in initiating a mass movement

among our multiethnic compatriots in order to understand the local situation,

step up the movement to safeguard the national security at the border and

eliminate all the possible causes of instability in localities. Meanwhile, we

must know how to coordinate our suppression efforts against existing

reactionary

forces while managing, educating and transforming various former reactionary

elements who are being drawn by the enemy.

Our compatriots of various ethnic minorities are psychologically very

sensitive. Therefore, we must be cautious in dealing with them and must not

allow things to go beyond our control. The need to eliminate this possibility

is

fully supported by science. Our inclination is to continue to rely on prominent

people and the chiefs of ethnic clans to mobilize and persuade the compatriots

of various ethnic groups to defend the revolution and the border, isolate the

counterrevolutionaries and prevent the enemy's sabotage schemes.

Essentially, we must work out our socioeconomic development strategy so that

the various ethnic minorities will have abundant and spiritual lives. This is

essential in our efforts to orient them towards the revolution, to defend the

border and to destroy all attempts to exploit the ethnic issue to sabotage our

country's revolution.

Dear Giang Dang

Regarding your request for recent publications on the on-going economic

transition in Vietnam,and papers on several sectors (agriculture, labor

market, foreign trade, etc.).I suggest: Vietnam Economic Commentary and

Analysis produced by ADUKI Pty Ltd (PO Box 506, Mawson, ACT 2607 Australia;

e-mail: l00250.l76@compuserve.com; fax: +6l6 286 2l52. This is produced by

Dr. Adam Fforde and a very competent team of economists and researchers.

I also suggest the Economist Intelligence Unit's Vietnam Country Report and

its quarterly reports on Vietnam and Laos. The material on Vietnam is

prepared by Steven Seneque, an economist at The Australian National

University.

Adam Fforde is the author of at least three books on Vietnam's economy and

is co-author of a forthcoming book to be published by Westview Press in

Boulder, Colorado.

I was recently the convenor of the annual Vietnam Update conference series

held at The Australian National University. The Update began in l990 and

consists of two parts, (a) an update on the past year's major developments

in politics, economics, and society and (b) a focus on a specialist theme.

This year is was civil society, last year it was rural transformation and

the previous year the rule of law. Information on publications arising from

the Update may be obtained from Beverley Fraser: bevley@coombs.anu.edu.au

This year the Update (background briefing) was expended to include papers

on the environment, labour relations and commercial law.

Carl Thayer

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The Vietnamese State and Associational Activity

Vietnam's market reforms has not only given birth to a legalized private

sector, but has led to the revitalization of group and organizational

activity at the local level and the emergence of groups and associations

formed as a result of local initiative. With the exception of groups which

have attempted to engage in overtly political activity, state authorities

have generally tolerated - if not encouraged - the activities of

revitalized organizations and newly formed associations.

The emergence and continued existence of non-political associations and

groups, formed in response to economic change and as a result of local

initiative, cannot easily be reconciled with the mono-organizational model

discussed above. Some newly active organizations are pre-existing ones

which have evolved in the context of a market economy to take on new roles

and functions (e.g., trade unions). Others are newly formed which have

emerged to meet needs peculiar to a market economy (e.g., Vietnamese NGOs,

consultancy groups, etc.). The legal status of these groups and

associations is unclear (Beaulieu 1994b). Some were previously registered

but now engage in activities beyond the scope of their original charters.

Others have petitioned for legal registration only after their formation.

Still others remain unregistered but are tolerated because they perform

what authorities perceive to be a useful function. In contrast, the state

has moved to repress any group which has taken an overt political stance

(see Table 2.1).

Vietnamese party and state authorities have attempted to control the

activities of these groups by bringing them under existing regulations. In

many cases, existing regulations do not cover the activities of groups

formed to cater to the needs of a market economy, such as the Vietnam

Bankers' Association. Vietnam has responded in an ad hoc fashion by

issuing new directives or by drawing up legislation to legalize the

activities of these groups. For example, when foreign owners of joint

enterprizes reportedly defaulted on contract conditions and provoked a

spate of walk-outs by local trade unions, Vietnamese authorities responded

by passing a new Labor Law which legalized the right to strike, but only as

a last resort. The legalization of the activities of private groups and

organizations, whether by decree or by law, is an illustration that the

Vietnamese state is capable of responding to political pressures from below

(as it did to economic pressures from below in the late 1970s).

TABLE 2.1: Typology of Groups & Associations With New Roles or Newly Formed

1. Political Club of Former Resistance Veterans

Freedom Forum; editor: Doan Viet Hoat

High Tide of Humanism Movement;Nguyen Dan Que

Mass Organization Vietnam Peasants' Association

Vietnam Women's Union

Vietnam Confederation of Trade Unions

Vietnam Federation of Youth

Vietnam War Veterans' Association

2. Business, Commercial Vietnam Bankers' Association

and Professional Vietnam Lawyers' Association

3. Science and Technology Vietnam Union of Science and Technology

Associations

4. Arts and Culture Han Literary Society

5. Social Welfare/NGO Club of Former Political Prisoners

credit societies; hui (informal credit circles)

Towards Ethnic Women

6. Religious An Quang Buddhists

Protestant Evangelical

Unified Buddhist Church

7. Friendly Associations clan and ethnic community groups

groups to help the disabled and assist the poor

8. Public Affairs consultancy and policy research institutes

Given the limited data available, the above table is schematic and is

presented for illustrative purposes only. There are definitional

difficulties in classifying various organizations by function as some may

be multi-functional. The point here is to illustrate that the scope of

group and associational activity in Vietnam has expanded greatly after the

adoption of doi moi. There were fewer associations and societies in the

pre-1986 period and these were grouped under the umbrella of the Vietnam

Fatherland Front. Many organizations, like the Vietnam Union of Science

and Technology Association, grew out of existing bodies and now include a

plethora of affiliated groups and societies. It would appear that many of

the new groups and associations, while not wholly autonomous from the state

and therefore not purely popular, are in fact "semi-governmental" if not

"quasi-governmental." According to Ljunggren (1994, 33):

"While hardly any of the organizations can be described as truly

autonomous, it seems clear that a new realm of free social and cultural

space for social organizations, discourse and advocacy is emerging, and

that this development is affecting the Vietnamese model and, gradually, the

inner dynamics of political life in Vietnam."

The impact of the doi moi, particularly the shift towards a market economy,

have revealed facets of state-society relations in Vietnam that cannot be

easily accounted for by the model of mono-organizational socialism.

Traditional village associational activity, centred in the family and clan

structure, is now being revived. State-society relations at grass-roots

level are no [longer] conducted through the structure of the agricultural

producers' cooperative. Both the Vietnamese party-state and new

associations (as well as revived ones) have reached new forms of

accommodation. The exceptions to this pattern are those groups, such as

the Unified Buddhist Church, which resisted the imposition of

mono-organizational socialism in the post-unification period, or new groups

which have mounted an overt challenge to the party's political supremacy,

particularly by appealing for overseas support.

Political and economic power is now no longer exclusively located in Hanoi

as it was in the decade following reunification. Ho Chi Minh City has

emerged as countervailing economic centre in its own right. Other centres,

less powerful, are also emerging such as Da Nang in central Vietnam, the

port city of Hai Phong, and regions, such as the Mekong Delta, northern

highland provinces and central Vietnam. For example, a caucus of southern

deputies emerged during the National Assembly's eighth legislature

(1987-92). Also, Military regions have been recognized by the inclusion of

their commanders on the party Central Committee (Thayer 1994:60-63).

The power of the Vietnamese state has always been constrained by provincial

and village government. Prior to unification there were no provincial

representatives on the party Central Committee. In the post-unification

period, provinces were merged into larger units to ease central control and

local officials were appointed to the Central Committee for the first time.

The new enlarged provinces proved difficult to control and were likened to

"independent kingdoms" by some Vietnamese critics. Eventually in 1991-92

the enlarged provinces became so powerful that they were broken up into

their original units.

Despite these efforts, the central state has still not succeeded in

imposing its writ on local authorities. They still retain the negative

power to thwart or undermine national policy with which they are in

disagreement. When circumstances dictate, they have the capacity to act

independently in pursuit of particularistic interests. For example,

despite a central government decree banning the export of timber, it was

discovered in 1993 that timber continued to be exported through the port of

Qui Nhon. Government decrees requiring the payment of import taxes are

regularly flouted by smugglers along the Sino-Vietnamese border.

In order to overcome the entrenched power of provincial people's

committees, the executive organs of elected people's councils, an attempt

was made in 1992 to amend the 1980 state constitution to give the prime

minister the power to appoint the chairman of provincial people's

committees. This was successfully resisted. Under the terms of the 1992

state constitution, the prime minister can only make such an appointment on

the recommendation of local people's councils. The prime minister,

however, may dismiss provincial leaders. Vo Van Kiet exercized this power

in 1994 when he sacked local officials in Da Nang and Ba Ria-Vung Tau.

As with state-society relations at the village level, Vietnam has witnessed

an accommodation between central and provincial authorities too. For

example, after the administrative break-up of the large provinces mentioned

above, many of the new provincial party secretaries were appointed to the

Central Committee following the January 1994 mid-term party conference.

There is a rough balance between representatives of the central party and

state apparatus and provincial representatives on the Central Committee.

The proposition that socio-economic change has led to new forms of

accommodation between the state and society may be illustrated with

reference to two major issues which have confronted national party leaders

in recent years: corruption and Buddhist dissidence. The problem of

corruption in Vietnam's socialist system is not a new phenomena (Turner

1975:217-220). However, as a result of the transformation of Vietnam's

economy in the 1980s, so-called "negative phenomena," emerged as a major

political issue, resulting, for instance, in considerable animosity between

local authorities and villagers (see Kerkvliet's chapter, this volume).

The heart of the matter is the abuse of power by party and state officials

who engage in corrupt acts. Corruption and abuse of power provoked popular

outcry, and severely undermined the party's image of incorruptibility and

self-sacrifice which it had cultivated during its struggles against the

French and the United States. Party officials have publicly stated that

corruption is the one issue which has the capacity to undermine the party's

legitimacy to govern.

Nguyen Van Linh, the reformist party secretary general, made the

eradication of corruption and abuse of power by party and state officials

his personal crusade when he came to office in late 1986. Linh began his

campaign in a newspaper column launched in May 1987 under the heading

"things which must be done immediately". A party rectification campaign

was launched during 1987-90. Eventually Linh's reformist push, including

his campaign against corruption, stalled. Linh stood down as party leader

at the seventh congress in June 1991 and was replaced by Do Muoi. The

third plenum of the VCP's Central Committee (June 1992), considered the

issue of eradicating corruption from within party ranks as an integral part

of the party-building process. Later that year, after the amendment of the

state constitution, national elections, and the formation of a new

government, Vo Van Kiet, the new prime minister, launched a national

campaign against corruption and smuggling. The following year he appointed

a high-level steering committee to direct this campaign. One of its

priorities was to bring to trial ten cases said to involve corrupt

high-level officials.

To date the major victim of the anti-corruption campaign has been Vu Ngoc

Hai, the former Energy Minister and former member of the party's Central

Committee. Hai was charged with arranging financial kickbacks during the

construction of the North-South powerline. He was tried and found guilty

in 1994. However, the overall results of the anti-corruption campaign have

been limited. For example, a mid-1993 report to the National Assembly

noted that only 2,900 cases of corruption had been uncovered and 1,000

brought to trial. In late 1993, Do Muoi himself proclaimed that the

campaign had been ineffective and unless corruption was ended, the party's

prestige would suffer.

A recent editorial in the party's daily newspaper Nhan Dan (1 July 1994,

1,4) concluded:

"Steady progress has not been achieved. Noteworthy is the fact that many

party organizations have not closely linked efforts to reorganize the party

with efforts to fight corruption. In a number of sectors, primarily

economic units, capital construction companies, budget allocation agencies

and key establishments in charge of handling money, goods and rare and

precious materials, there are indications of misappropriation, waste and

loss of state property. As far as leading agencies are concerned, there

are also indications that a number of cadres have been involved in

embezzlement of public funds, bribe-taking and abuse of power to enrich

themselves illegally. Meanwhile, the party organizations concerned have

slackened inspection and failed to take timely action to clarify the

responsibilities of collectives and individuals, particularly party members

in charge of leadership. Some local party committee echelons, including a

significant number of party installations at central-level, do not make due

efforts to direct the anti-corruption campaign. Many local anti-corruption

and smuggling mechanisms perform poorly. In many provinces and cities,

party organizations do not attach due importance to efforts to bring into

play the strength of the mass movement against corruption. Almost all

major corruption cases brought to trial were not the results of evaluation

and criticism in the party but the outcome of denunciations by the people

and mass media as well as of investigations conducted by the agencies in

charge. The action against a number of corruption cases was not stringent

enough. In certain cases, only light action was taken against wrongdoers.

Worse still, a number of influential cadres also tried to protect corrupt

elements and bribe takers. That situation has lessened the people's

confidence in the party."

Problems in state relations with Buddhist dissidents in southern Vietnam

emerged in the post-liberation period (Nguyen Van Canh 1983). After

unification, property belonging to all religious groups, including the

Unified Buddhist Church (UBC), was confiscated. Religious social welfare,

educational and training institutions were closed down. UBC leaders, and

monks and nuns in local pagodas, were subject to heavy-handed treatment at

the hands of local security authorities. Buddhist leaders charged the

state with discrimination, persecution and interference in religious

affairs. Religious leaders, such as Thich Quang Do and Thich Huyen Quang,

who engaged in non-violent public protests were arrested and later given

suspended sentences. However, when they resisted government-initiated

moves to merge all Buddhist groups into one officially-approved and

state-controlled organization, the Vietnam Buddhist Church, they were

re-arrested placed under house detention. Further arrests of key UBC

leaders followed in 1984.

After the adoption of doi moi, the state relaxed its restrictions on

religion in general. This resulted in a revival of Buddhist activities,

temple restoration and larger attendances at Buddhist-sponsored events.

Problems in UBC-state relations surfaced again in April 1992 when the

Patriarch of the UBC died and left a will reportedly designating Thich

Huyen Quang as his successor. State authorities claimed the will had been

forged and on this basis have refused to recognize the new Patriarch.

UBC-state relations worsened in May 1993 when a man reportedly committed

suicide on the grounds of the Buddhist Linh Mu temple in Hue. UBC sources

claim that the immolation was a protest against state persecution of the

Buddhist Church. Local authorities deny this. In the event, a street

confrontation developed between local security authorities and a crowd of

"several thousand" Buddhists led by monks from the Linh Mu pagoda. A

security vehicle was overturned and set on fire. Four monks and five

laymen were later brought to trial and sentenced to prison for their

alleged actions. A separate confrontation between local security

authorities and church officials took place at a UBC pagoda in Vung Tau

city later that year.

While estimates vary, it is generally assumed that the vast majority of

Vietnam's population is nominally Buddhist. The Unified Buddhist Church is

regionally based and represents at most several hundred thousand Buddhists

primarily in central Vietnam and Ho Chi Minh City. What seems clear is

that the local state authorities appreciate the popularity and influence of

the UBC within these areas. Despite the occasional arrest and detention of

outspoken UBC leaders, the state has backed away from wholesale repression

of the UBC's mass following. A curious coexistence apparently prevails.

The state, which does not recognize the legal existence of the UBC,

nevertheless tolerates church activity which is not overtly political.

Pagodas and temples which are associated with the UBC continue to function.

Excerpt from Carlyle A. Thayer, "Mono-Organisational Socialism and The

Vietnamese State," in Ben Kerkvliet and Doug Porter, eds., Rural

Transformation and Economic Change in Vietnam (Boulder: Westview Press and

Singapore: Institute of Southeast Asian Studies, 1995).

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Ven. Thich Huyen Quang Visited

The following is a report by an elderly woman who recently visited Thich

Huyen Quang, currently under house arrest in central Vietnam. This was

translated into English by a Vietnamese friend.

-Steve Denney

begin text:

Visiting Ven. Thich Huyen Quang

by Hong Tam, June 1995.

...I sighed, as if hundreds of kilograms of weights had just been

lifted from my shoulders, as I walked into my own home. My

eldest daughter cried out when she saw me: "Mom is home safe and

sound."

In the last three days, my mind was greatly strained during my

illegal visit to the place where Ven. Thich Huyen Quang was

detained, the first visit since he was brought there - to my

knowledge. At first, my family did not want me to risk

everything by visiting him. But I am old now, and I am one of

his life-long pupils. Besides, Bong Son was only about thirty

kilometers from Quang Ngai, where Ven. Thich Huyen Quang was

kept. With the help of local friends, I stayed in Nghia Hanh

hamlet for three months to search for Ven. Thich Huyen Quang's

whereabouts. It was said that he was kept here.

The August air was steaming hot. The road leading to his place

of detainment was long and winding, accessible only by ox-cart

and costing 10,000 dong. Amid a deserted patch of farmland, a

small house was newly erected to imprison Ven. Quang. There were

only a few small straw-huts nearby, within my vision. A couple

kilometers away was a mountain inhabited by some highlander

groups. I arrived at the house where Ven. Quang resides at

exactly noon. At this time of the day, the guards would most

likely be taking their naps.

"Is there anyone home? I am lost, thirsty and would like a glass

of water, please." I announced loudly. I made no attempt to

hide my presence, for doing so only attracted the attention of

the guards living next door.

The door opened. Ven. Quang walked out with the help of a cane.

"Teacher," was all I could say to him at first. The tears from

my eyes could not stop flowing and I could not find the words to

say anything else to him.

"Why did you risk to come and visit me? An old woman alone on a

dangerous trip," Ven. Quang said. "Let me open the door widely

so that the guards won't be so suspicious." He continued. "Come

on in."

"How are you, my teacher?" I asked.

"I was ill for a few months, but am getting a bit better. I do

not know about next month, however."

"Does this life in isolation sadden you?"

"The fate of the religion under suppression saddens me. Life

here is quiet and deserted. There are a few people around. But

they are the guards and I am their prisoner. We do not get along

well."

"If Nguyen Thieu pagoda submits a pardon request to have you come

there to live, would you go?"

"No. How can Nguyen Thieu pagoda do that? It had no saying in

my being imprisoned here in Nghia Hanh hamlet, how can it now ask

for my pardon? Some had approached me about this before. But,

no. I will return only to the place where I was illegally

arrested from, with proper documentation. If I had committed a

crime, bring me to a trial. If found guilty, I will totally

accept the punishments handed to me. If not, I would like to

receive an official apology from the government to the Buddhist

Faith, in which I am a member."

"When they arrested you from Hoi Phuoc pagoda, what did they do?

What did they say to you?"

"Two policemen took me by the sides and pulled me to the car.

The others glared at me with much watchful eyes. They wasted

their effort. If an old man like me decided to go against them,

he would do that with his head, not with his fists. They needn't

use such force."

"Your belongings, they confiscated. Did they return any?"

"Only the bed, a small table and a few things."

"What about files and the stamp belonging to Vien Hoa Dao

(Institute to Propagate the Dharma)?"

"They took them all, including cassette tapes which recorded

programs such as VOA, BBC, New Horizon... They did not even spare

the tapes for religious ceremonies!"

"Then teacher, did they take any money?"

"When they confiscated the money, they told me that it would be

forwarded to Tu Quang pagoda for safe-keeping. I had three

thousand US dollars sent to us from people everywhere. And they

took it all. Later, Tu Quang pagoda informed me that no money

was ever forwarded them."

"Did you file an official complaint? It has been more than six

months already, and with a large sum of money like that. And how

can you live now, in terms of food stock and medicine?"

"Oh well, let's consider everything lost for now."

"I did go to Sai Gon to visit the family of layman Dong Ngoc, and

was informed by family members that when layman Dong Ngoc was

arrested, more than five thousand US and some Australian dollars

were confiscated. That amount of money was borrowed by layman

Dong Ngoc to get ready for the flood-relief effort, for which

Dong Ngoc was arrested."

"Yes, everything is at a loss. But I firmly believe in the

Buddhas and our saints. But now, you must leave here. You have

been here for more than half an hour now. The authority forbid

me from receiving guests. Before, there were six policemen.

Now, there are sometimes four, sometimes two. Occasionally, a

whole car-load of policemen came to guard me."

Ven. Quang was concerned for me. He walked to the door and went

outside. In my head, I prepared for a dialogue with the police,

should there be one. I would say that in our conversation, the

old man (Ven. Quang) was asking me direction on how to get herbal

oil for his troubled legs. I was going through the scenario as I

took a look around to see how Ven. Quang was living. It was a

small room which included also a bathroom and a kitchen. Two

mangos and some flour on the kitchen table. That's all. How

could Ven. Quang cook and look after himself in such poor health.

Does he have the strength to get the water from the well?

"Now, you must leave, my pupil. The police are looking at you

from the other side. I am used to life in prison. The lack of

facilities here is only like mosquito bites to someone being

burnt alive. Oh, do you have any news about Ven. Thich Quang

Do?"

"No, my teacher. Some said he is still kept in Sai Gon. Some

said he had been transferred North."

"Oh, I wish him well. My fate is tied with prison and his with

exile. Both of us are monks and both endure such cruel fates."

"My teacher, did they just build this house?"

"Oh, yes. They built it in twenty days, from Dec 9 to Dec 27.

On the 28th, I was taken in here. Before I stayed on the other

side. My interrogators are many. Now, there are two.

Sometimes there were four. At times, there were as many as ten.

They all came with guns and bullets strapped to their bodies. I

am all right, please go on. Please send my regards to everyone.

Things about life, about our faith, about our country need many

hours if we wish to talk. Go on home. The police are standing

up over there already."

I bowed to him as I was leaving. Ven. Quang sat silently for a

moment and then told me: "Stay calm and answer quickly if you

were stopped by the police."

I walked out, pretending that I was calm. But it hurt badly

inside from fear and from having to leave him behind.

Two policemen in civilian clothing stopped me and asked where I

was going. I told them that the water from the well was very

refreshing and I was no longer tired after having a drink from

it. As I walked I prayed to the Buddhas. After about one

kilometer away, I looked back. There was a small house amid a

deserted area. There was a monk nearly eighty years old being

imprisoned, without anyone around to look after him. Oh, people

of authority, why are you so cruel? You are executing him not by

a bullet but by many years of isolation, ill health and

interrogation sessions.

If something terrible happened to my teacher, who would know? Oh

Buddhas!

Binh Dinh, June 15, 1995

Hong Tam

VN: Government Structures

Government (October 1994)

Head Of State

President Gen. Le Duc Anh (elected by the Ninth National Assembly on

23 September 1992).

Vice-President Nguyen Thi Binh

Cabinet

Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet

Vice-Prime Ministers Phan Van Khai Nguyen Khanh Tran Duc Luong

Minister of National Defence Lt-Gen. Doan Khue

Minister of the Interior Bui Thien Ngo

Minister of Foreign Affairs Nguyen Manh Cam

Minister of Justice Nguyen Dinh Loc

Minister of Finance Ho Te

Minister of Science, Technology and Environment Dang Huu

Minister of Labour, War Invalids and Social Welfare Tran Dinh Hoan

Minister of Education and Training Tran Hong Quan

Minister of Public Health Nguyen Trong Nhan

Minister of Culture and Information Tran Hoan

Minister of Construction Ngo Xuan Loc

Minister of Water Conservancy Nguyen Canh Dinh

Minister of Communications and Transport Bui Danh Luu

Minister of Agriculture and Food Industry Nguyen Cong Tan

Minister of Marine Products Nguyen Tan Trinh

Minister of Heavy Industry Tran Lum

Minister of Light Industry Dang Vu Chu

Minister of Energy Thai Phung Ne

Minister of Commerce Le Van Triet

Minister of Forestry Nguyen Quang Ha

Minister, Chairman of the State Planning Commission Do Quoc Sam

General State Inspector Nguyen Ky Cam

Governor of the State Bank Cao Sy Kiem

Minister, Chairman of the Ethnic Minorities and Mountain Region Commission

Hoang Duc Nghi

Minister, Head of the State Commission for Co-operation and Investment Dau

Ngoc Xuan

Minister, Head of the Government's Organization and Personnel Commission

Phan Ngoc Tuong

Minister, Head of the Government Office Le Xuan Trinh

Minister, Head of the National Committee of Population Activities and

Family Planning Mai Ky

Minister in charge of Child Protection and Childcare Tran Thi Thanh Thanh

Minister in charge of Youth Work and Minister in charge of Government

Affairs Ha Quang Du

Minister without Portfolio with responsibility for Economic Affairs

Phan Van Tiem

Ministries and Commissions

Ministry of Agriculture and Food Industry 6 Ngoc Ha, Hanoi; tel.

268161; fax 25399

Ministry of Commerce 31 Trang Tien, Hanoi; tel. 254915; telex 411251;

fax 264696

Ministry of Communications and Transport 80 Tran Hung Dao Hanoi;

tel. 256687; telex 412242; fax 267291

Ministry of Construction 37 Le Dai Hanh, Hanoi; tel. 268271; fax 258122

Ministry of Culture and Information 51 Ngo Quyen, Hanoi; tel. 253231

Ministry of Education and Training 49 Dai Co Viet, Hanoi; tel.

264085; fax 694085

Ministry of Energy 18 Tran Nguyen Han, Hanoi; tel. 263725; fax 254865

Ministry of Finance 8 Phan Huy Chu, Hanoi; tel. 262357; fax 262266

Ministry of Foreign Affairs 1 Ton That Dam, Hanoi; tel. 258201; telex

111516; fax 259205

Ministry of Forestry 123 Lo Duc, Hanoi; tel. 253236; fax 252542

Ministry of Heavy Industry 54 Hai Ba Trung, Hanoi; tel. 258311

Ministry of the Interior Tran Binh Trong, Hanoi; tel. 258300

Ministry of Justice 25A Cat Linh, Hanoi; tel. 254658

Ministry of Labour, War Invalids and Social Welfare 2 Dinh Le, Hanoi;

tel. 252236.

Ministry of Light Industry 7 Trang Thi, Hanoi; tel. 253831; fax 265303

Ministry of Marine Products Bach Thao, Hanoi; tel. 252696

Ministry of National Defence 1 Hoang Dieu, Hanoi; tel. 258101

Ministry of Public Health 138A Giang Vo, Hanoi; tel. 264416

Ministry of Science, Technology and Environment 39 Tran Hung Dao, Hanoi;

tel. 252731; telex 412287; fax 251518

Ministry of Water Conservancy 164 Tran Quang Khai, Hanoi; tel. 268141

National Committee of Population Activities and Family Planning 226 Van

Mieu, Hanoi; tel. 258261; fax 258993

State Commission for Co-operation and Investment 56 Quoc Tu Giam,

Hanoi; tel. 253666; fax 259271

State Planning Commission 2 Hoang Van Thu, Hanoi; tel. 258261

State Inspectorate 28 Tang Bat Ho, Hanoi; tel. 254497

National Defence And Security Council

Chairman Gen. Le Duc Anh

Vice-Chairman Vo Van Kiet

Members Nong Duc Manh, Lt-Gen. Doan Khue, Bui Thien Ngo, Nguyen Manh Cam

Legislature Quoc Hoi (National Assembly)

Elections to the Ninth National Assembly were held on 19 July 1992. The

Assembly has 395 members, elected from among 601 candidates.

Chairman Nong Duc Manh

Vice-Chairmen Nguyn Ha Phan, Dang Quan Thuy Phung Van Tuu

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Hanoi top secret admits strong opposition

VNForum@Saigon.COM - Mesg from vinsight@netcom.com (Vietnam Insight)

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INTERIOR MINISTRY COMPILES REPORT OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES IN

VIETNAM

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Communist Vietnam's Interior Ministry has recently distributed within

its departments a "top secret" document detailing anti-government

activities and organizations inside the country. Intended for limited

internal use, the document compiled by the ministry's

counterintelligence division contains three parts and goes under the

title "The need to eliminate attempts by reactionary forces to overthrow

our government."

The first part lists the causes and leanings of the various opposition

groups, which Hanoi considers "lackeys of the international capitalistic

nations." These opposition groups are classified according to five main

types:

1. "Ultra-reactionary" groups formed by individuals with ties to the old

South Vietnamese government. These groups advocate the overthrow of the

regime by force. Although claiming to have eliminated almost all of

these groups over the last few years, the document's authors acknowledge

that many are still active inside the country and, in fact, have managed

to infiltrate the rank-and-file of the communist party. The groups are

involved in organizing infrastructures and enlisting people and party

cadres to oppose the government.

2. Intellectuals and artists, who, in the wake of the collapse of the

Soviet Union and its Eastern European satellites, have taken advantage

of the situation to demand a multi-party system and democratic reforms.

These individuals have joined forces with "overseas enemies" to

criticize the communist party and the current social situation by

emphasizing "negative aspects" in order to create political turmoil.

3. Communist party members and cadres who have turned against the

socialist ideals and who have published illegal letters and articles

criticizing the party and regime with the intent of creating disorder.

4. Religious organizations, especially followers of Buddhism and

Christianity. These people have taken advantage of the regime's

purported loosening of control over religion to create social upheavals.

5. Individuals who under the pretense of humanitarian missions, recruit

and enlist "gullible" citizens to oppose the regime.

Having defined the five main types of opposition groups, the document

concludes that these forces have blossomed since the early 1990s as part

of the United States' effort to encourage "peaceful evolution" (of

dictatorial systems of government) worldwide. The top-secret report

stresses that these five types of opposition group act not alone, but in

concert with one another.

In the second part of the report, detailed activities of the various

opposition groups are described, including the names of the leaders.

Among the 132 groups listed, some are mentioned as being most dangerous

to the regime, including the National United Front for the Liberation of

Vietnam led by former admiral Hoang Co Minh, the National Restoration

Force led by Tran Quoc Bao, the Unified Buddhist Church of Vietnam led

by the Venerable Thich Huyen Quang, and the Club of Former Resistance

Fighters led by Nguyen Ho. The report boasts that 85 of these groups

have been effectively destroyed by security forces and thousands of

people arrested in the process.

The third and final part of the report proposes strategies to guard

against and to eliminate anti-government activities. The authors caution

that with normalization with the U.S. and entrance into ASEAN achieved,

there will be more opportunities for opposition groups within and

outside the country to unify and coordinate. Therefore the security

forces must screen and monitor returning overseas Vietnamese more

carefully. The counterintelligence division also advocates increasing

overseas espionage activities to keep tabs on opposition groups in the

Vietnamese communities there and prevent their link-up with domestic

forces. In limiting news and information from entering the country, it

recommends that recipients of outside documents be forced to hand over

materials to local security forces. To prevent important national

security documents from reaching the overseas communities, it proposes

that ministry heads be responsible for the distribution of highly

sensitive information.

For the first time in 20 years, the Interior Ministry has had to compile

a document on anti-government activities inside the country. Although

many of the 132 organizations listed are unknown to the overseas

community, the fact that Hanoi had to issue this report shows that the

regime can no longer hide mounting opposition and political turmoil. One

of the purposes of the secret report is to warn party members and cadres

against joining the wave of opposition building against the regime.

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The following is an updated list of government officials of the

Socialist Republic of Vietnam, along with their telephone and fax

numbers. This was published in the VIETNAM ECONOMIC TIMES, Dec.

1996.

- Steve Denney

sdenney@uclink.berkeley.edu

or sdenney@igc.apc.org

-----------------------------------------------------------

Prime Minister: Vo Van Kiet

Deputy Prime Minister: Phan Van Khai

Deputy Prime Minister: Tran Duc Luong

Deputy Prime Minister Nguyen Khanh

Ministry of Defense

Minister: Doan Khue

Tel: 069 5 3267

Ministry of Interior

Minister: Le Minh Huong

Tel: 825-8088

Fax: 826-0773

Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Minister: Nguyen Manh Cam

Tel: 845-8201

Fax: 845-9205

Ministry of Justice

Minister: Nguyen Dinh Loc

Tel: 845-4765

Fax: 843-1341

Ministry of Planning and Investment

Minister: Tran Xuan Gia

Tel: 845-8241(3782)

Fax: 823-4453

Ministry of Finance

Minister: Nguyen Sinh Hung

Tel: 826-2266

Fax: 826-2264

Ministry of Trade

Minister: Le Van Triet

Tel: 825-7078

Fax: 826-4696

Ministry of Science, Technology and Environment

Minister: Pham Gia Khiem

Tel: 826-6688

Fax: 825-2733

Ministry of Construction

Minister: Ngo Xuan Loc

Tel: 826-8271

Fax: 825-2153

Ministry of Transport and Communications

Acting Minister: Le Ngoc Hoan

Tel: 825-3218

Fax: 826-7291

Ministry of Labor, War Invalids and Social Affairs

Minister: Tran Dinh Hoan

Tel: 825-3875

Fax: 826-9356

Ministry of Industry

Minister: Dang Vu Chu

Tel: 825-3386

Fax: 826-5303

Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development

Minister: Nguyen Cong Tan

Tel: 845-4107

Fax: 845-4319

Ministry of Culture and Information

Minister: Nguyen Khoa Diem

Tel: 825-2071

Fax: 826-7101

Ministry of Marine Products

Minister: Ta Quang Ngoc

Tel: 835-4513

Fax: 832-6702

Ministry of Education and Training

Minister: Tran Hong Quan

Tel: 869-4910

Fax: 869-4085

Ministry of Public Health

Minister: Do Nguyen Phuong

Tel: 846-2970

Fax: 846-4051

Committee for Ethnic Minorities and Mountainous Areas

Minister: Hoang Duc Nghi

Tel: 846-4280

Fax: 823-0235

State Inspectorate

General Inspector: Ta Huu Thanh

Tel: 832-5231

Fax: 832-5896

State Bank of Vietnam

Governor: Cao Si Kiem

Tel: 825-3684

Fax: 826-8765

Government Committee on Organization and Personnel

Minister: Do Quang Trung

Tel: 826-4268

Fax: 822-6005

Office of Government

Minister: Lai Van Cu

Tel: 845-8241(4247)

Fax: 845-5467

Committee for Flood Protection

Minister: Nguyen Canh Dinh

Tel: 824-0327

Fax: 825-6929

Committee for Population and Family Planning

Minister: Mai Ky

Tel: 823-7456

Fax: 825-8993

Minister in Charge of Youth and Sport:

Ha Quang Du

Tel: 0804-4012

Fax: 845-5464

Committee for Protection and Care of Children

Minister: Tran Thi Thanh Thanh

Tel: 823-3340

Fax: 823-7983

Government Departments

Department General of Post and Telecommunications

Acting Secretary General: Nguyen Huy Luan

Tel: 822-5359

Fax: 826-3477

Vietnam National Administration of Tourism

Chairwoman: Vo Thi Thang

Tel: 825-3314

Fax: 826-1115

General Department of Customs

General Director: Phan Van Dinh

Tel: 826-3910

Fax: 826-3905

General Statistical Office

General Director: Le Van Toan

Tel: 846-4353

Fax: 846-4345

General Department of Physical Culture and Sport

General Director: Le Buu

Tel: 845-7264

Fax: 823-2455

General Department of Meteorology and Hydrology

General Director: Nguyen Duc Ngu

Tel: 825-7740

Fax: 826-0779

Government Price Committee

Chairman: Tran Quang Nghiem

Tel: 843-2171

Fax: 823-6390

Government Committee on Religion

Acting Chief: Vu Gia Tham

Tel: 826-1928

Fax: 825-6300

General Department of Land Administration

General Director: Bui Xuan Son

Tel: 835-7974

Fax: 835-2191

Government Committee for National Territory

Chairman: Tran Cong Truc

Tel: 845-8241(3191)

Fax: 823-6920

Government Cipher Department

Chairman: Do Van An

Tel: 835-6557

Fax: 834-3936

Department of Civil Aviation

General Director: Nguyen Hong Nhi

Tel: 827-1688

Fax: 827-1933

State Auditing Department

Auditor General: Vuong Huu Nhon

Tel: 843-2519

Fax: 843-3145

Ho Chi Minh National Political Institute

Director: Nguyen Duc Binh

Tel: 836-1066

Fax: 836-1194

National Centre for Social and Human Sciences

Chairman: Nguyen Duy Quy

Tel: 825-9073

Fax: 825-9071

National Institute for Public Administration

Director: Nguyen Duy Gia

Tel: 834-3261

Fax: 834-3223

National Reserve Department

General Director: Ngo Xuan Hue

Tel: 826-5658

Fax: 825-2692

Vietnam News Agency

Director: Ho Tien Nghi

Tel: 825-5443(2291)

Fax: 825-2984

Voice of Vietnam Radio

Director: Tran Mai Hanh

Tel: 825-2535

Fax: 826-1122

Vietnam Television

Director: Ho Anh Dung

Tel: 834-3188

Fax: 835-0882

Sent to AVSL-L by: Stephen R Denney <sdenney@uclink.berkeley.edu> (by way of vern@coombs.anu.edu.au (Vern Weitzel))

Subject: Nguyen Dy Nien

Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:12:41 -1000

From: "Thayer, Carl, Dr." <thayerc@apcss.org>

To: 'Vern Weitzel' <weitzel@undp.org.vn >

In response to January media reports from Hanoi that Nguyen Dy Nien will

replace Nguyen Manh Cam as Foreign Minister I provide the following

biography.

NGUYEN DY NIEN

Born 1935

1951 participated in the "national liberation movement".

1954 entered the foreign service, Ministry of Foreign Affairs MOFA

- Posted to Consultate General in India

- 1974 opened the DRV Embassy in Canberra, Australia

June 1980-1984 Deputy Director and then Director, [unspecified]

Department at MOFA

1984-February 1987 Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs

March 1987 Appointed Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs and President

of the Vietnam National Commission of UNESCO

April 7-11, 1987 Cuban vice foreign minister Giraldo Mazola pays an

official visit to Hanoi tohold talks with deputy foreign minister

Nguyen Dy Nien on bilateral relations, and international and regional

issues of mutual concern.

September 7, 1987 Kireyev, director of the Soviet Foreign Ministry's

Socialist Countries of Asia Department, visits hanoi to hold working

discussions with vice foreign minister Nguyen Dy Nien.

September 9, 1987 Japanese vice foreign minister Tadashi Kuranari visits

Hanoi to discuss a negotiated settlement of the conflict in Cambodia

with vice foreign minister Nguyen Dy Nien.

1988 US Congressman John LeBoutillier visits Vietnam and holds talks

with Nguyen Dy Nien. Nien called for the normalization of relations with

these words, "Even though the war is over, the bleeding continues on

both sides. Only the normalization of relations can stop the bleeding."

September 6, 1989 Heng Samrin leads high-level Cambodian party and state

delegation to Vietnam. On hand to meet him at No Bai airport were

Politburo Member and Minister of National Defense Le Duc Anh, Phan Dinh

Vinh (deputy head of the party Central Committee's Foreign Relations

Department), Nguyen Dy Nien (deputy foreign minister) and Ngo Dien,

Vietnamese ambassador to Cambodia.

Ostober 5, 1989 Nguyen Dy Nien, vice foreign minster, heads Vietnam's

delegation to 44th UN General Assembly session in New York. He speaks

about national reconciliation and a negotiated settlement of the

Cambodian conflict.

June 1991 elected a new full member of the Vietnam Communist Party's

Central Committee.

August 6, 1991 vice foreign minister Nguyen Dy Nien visits Beijing for

talks on Cambodia and Sino-Vietnamese relations with his counterpart, Xu

Dunxin.

August 10, 1991 joint statement after three days of talks between Nguyen

Dy Nien and Xu Dunxin states the two discussed "quickly restoring their

relations in economy, trade, communications, postal services and other

fields." Nien met CCP chief Jiang Zemin and Premier Li Peng with whom he

discussed forthcoming visit by Foreign Minister Nguyen Manh Cam to

prepare for a summit between Jiang and Do Muoi, VCP secretary general.

July 11-13, 1993 Nguyen Dy Nien journeys to Tel Aviv to open diplomatic

relations with Israel.

March 1995 Newly appointed Secretary for Security (Hong Kung), Peter

Lai, holds discussions in Geneva with Nguyen Dy Nien and Le Minh Huong

on status of "boat people."

July 1996 re-elected full member of the VCP Central Committee.

April 1997 Nguyen Dy Nien attends meeting of Asia Pacific Minister and

delegates to Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific in

Bangkok.

December 1997 German Minister of State of the Foreign Ministry, Dr.

Werner Hoyer, meets with Nguyen Dy Nien [location not specified].

May 1998 Nguyen Dy Nien visits Peru.

June 1998 Nguyen Dy Nien speaking at a Hanoi banquet in honor of

Vasundhara Raje Scindia, acknowleedges India's status as a nuclear

weapons power.

July 1998 German Minister of State of the Foreign Ministry, Dr. Werner

Hoyer, holds talks in Hanoi with Nguyen Dy Nien on boostig bilateral

cooperation in trade and issues concerning Vietnamese living in Germany.

July 23, 1998 Nguyen Dy Nien present at a meeting between party general

secretary Le Kha Phieu and foreign ambassadors and representatives of

international organization in Hanoi.

January 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien identified as head of the Committtee for

Overseas Vietnamese.

February 9, 1999 Overseas Vietnamese Committee, Hanoi People's Committee

and Vietnam Tourism Administration jointly organize a Lunar New Year

social function which is attended by Nguyen Dy Nien.

March 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien holds talks with the Vatican's deputy foreign

minister Celestino Migliore on diplomatic relations.

March 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien attends a "recent" conference of deputy

ministers to review the country's tourism industry. Nien: "The Foreign

Ministry will work closely with the Ministry of PUblic Security tgo

improve entry visa procedures."

May 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien authors article in Quoc Te (International

Affairs review) as chairman of UNESCO Vietnam Committee, concerning

Hanoi's partiicpation in "UNESCO Prize-City for Peace" program.

July 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien holds talks with Switzerland's foreign and

external economic ministries on bilateral cooperation.

July 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien open a web site for Vietnamese residing abroad

incooperation with Committee for Overseas Vietnamese and VN-VITRANET.

October 1999 Nguyen Dy Nien received Omer Ertur, the new representative

in Hanoi of the United Nations Fund for Population Activities

from my files,

Carl Thayer

Dr Carlyle A. Thayer

Deputy Chair, Department of Regional Studies

Professor of Southeast Asia Security Studies

Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies

2255 Kuhio Avenue, Suite 1900

Honolulu, HI 96815 USA

phone: +1 808 971 8952

fax: +1 808 971 8949

home: +1 808 945 0045

home email: thayerz001@hawaii.rr.com

(http://www.pol.adfa.edu.au/staff/thayer/pubs.html)

(http://www.apcss.org/thayerc.html)

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