Teaching Resources
Subject: Re: [Vsg] teaching resources--please reply to all!
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From: Diane Fox <DNFOX@holycross.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: vsg@u.washington.edu
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 8:28 AM
Just adding a second to David's request--useful for many of us, I suspect.
Diane
>>> David Del Testa <ddeltest@bucknell.edu> 1/10/2008 10:00 AM >>>
Friends, I write to ask for suggestions in regards to good resources for developing lectures for a History of Vietnam course, especially those sources in English, French, or Vietnamese addressing the period before the Tay Son. Naturally, I have Li Tana's book to draw from, and the classic articles by Wolters, Taylor, and Whitmore, but I would appreciate learning sources that people have used to add more "color" to the standard narrative. Good discussions of culture in the Tran and Le, a good essay on Nguyen Trai and his social world, a synopsis of Chinese-Viet exchange during the period of colonization, a more fully developed history of the Nam Tien, and so on. Anything that teachers have found useful in adding a third-dimension to the creation of a Vietnam.
Thanks, best, David Del Testa
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From: Christina Firpo <christina.firpo@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Diane and David,
Here's George Dutton's website. I find it very useful.
http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/ealc/faculty/dutton/TSsite.html
Perhaps check on some of his published work. I think Brad Davis may have been doing some work on this period too.
Best,
Christina
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Subject: [Vsg] teaching resources
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From: David Del Testa <ddeltest@bucknell.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: vsg@u.washington.edu
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 8:00 AM
Friends, I write to ask for suggestions in regards to good resources for developing lectures for a History of Vietnam course, especially those sources in English, French, or Vietnamese addressing the period before the Tay Son. Naturally, I have Li Tana's book to draw from, and the classic articles by Wolters, Taylor, and Whitmore, but I would appreciate learning sources that people have used to add more "color" to the standard narrative. Good discussions of culture in the Tran and Le, a good essay on Nguyen Trai and his social world, a synopsis of Chinese-Viet exchange during the period of colonization, a more fully developed history of the Nam Tien, and so on. Anything that teachers have found useful in adding a third-dimension to the creation of a Vietnam.
Thanks, best, David Del Testa
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From: dan hoang <hoangdanlieu@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM
Let try this website - I don't know if it can help you or not-
Lieu
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From: George Dutton <dutton@humnet.ucla.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Dear David (and VSG),
While the resources remain limited, there are more things now available than ten years ago. I'm definitely with you regarding adding more color to the narrative, whenever possible, making some of the seemingly more obscure elements of the earlier period come to life for students. Certainly I would recommend the use of poetry in translation, for while some of it is rather inaccessible, there is plenty that can be used without too much annotation. So perhaps starting with one of Huynh Sanh Thong's anthologies would be good. I would also recommend some of the essays in the recent volume, Vietnam: Borderless Histories (Tran and Reid, eds.), which has a few articles on the earlier period. Sun Laichen's piece in that volume on military technology (with illustrations) is pretty lively. Also, you should definitely check out the new Cornell SEAP republication of the accounts of Borri and Barron, Views of Seventeenth-Century Vietnam (Ithaca, NY: Cornell SEAP, 2006). These are very accessible and detailed descriptions of 17th century Vietnamese society, culture, religion, politics, economics, and include some nice illustrations from Tonkin. Liam Kelley's recent book, Beyond the Bronze Pillars, has some good accounts of Vietnamese literati, their worldview, and poetry, and while some is from later than the period you are interested in, a fair bit is from the earlier period. Also look at James Anderson's recent work, The Rebel Den of Nung Tri Cao, on the much earlier Sino-Vietnamese relationship, which helps to bring some of the complex border issues into focus. Below I've appended the list of readings I used for the course I taught on precisely this period last quarter. Some of it is the standard, older scholarship, but perhaps some of the other titles will be new to you or others. I've found that the course works nicely when I balance chronological lectures with thematic ones, and so I do thematic lectures on: literature, religion, the legal codes, science and medicine, commerce, gender, and Confucianism and the Confucian scholar. In particular, I strongly recommend looking at the three volume Le code translation done by Ta Van Tai, Nguyen Ngoc Huy and Tran Van Liem. I use this as the basis for my legal code lecture and it works really well because students can relate to many of the legal concepts, or they can at least be explained in terms that students can grasp.
Finally, let me just note that we are hard at work finalizing the Sources of Vietnamese Tradition project, and hope to have it to the publisher fairly soon. That will make a range of readily assignable texts available across the entire span of Vietnamese history, and includes a very large number of texts never before translated into English.
Hope this helps,
George
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Keith Taylor, “Sources for Early Vietnamese History,” in The Birth of Vietnam (UC, 1983), 349-359.
Insun Yu, “Ngo Si Lien and Le Van Huu,” in Borderless Histories, pp. 45-71.
Keith Taylor, “The Lac Lords” in The Birth of Vietnam, pp. 1-44.
“Vietnamese Mythology,” in Yves Bonnefoy, Asian Mythologies (U. of Chicago, 1993), pp. 221-229.
John Whitmore, “Vietnamese History Sources: For the Reign of Le Thanh Tong (1460-1497)” Journal of Asian Studies 29, No. 2 (Feb. 1970): 373-394.
Keith Taylor, “An Evaluation of the Chinese Period in Vietnamese History,” The Journal of Asiatic Studies (Korea), 23, (Jan. 1980): 139-164.
John Whitmore, “Foreign Influences and the Vietnamese Cultural Core: A Discussion of the Premodern Period,” in Truong Buu Lam, ed, Borrowings and Adaptations in Vietnamese Culture (1987), 1-21.
Hue-tam Ho Tai, “Religion in Vietnam: A World of Gods and Spirits,” Viet Nam Forum 10 (1987), 113-145.
Ann Unger and Walter Unger, Pagodas, Gods, and Spirits of Vietnam (Thames and Hudson), pp. 13-46.
Ly Te Xuyen, Viet Dien U Linh Tap (Collected Volume of the Departed Spirits) (excerpts) (available online)
Nguyen The Anh, “From Indra to Maitreya: Buddhist Influence on Vietnamese Political Thought” Journal of Southeast Asian Studies, (June 2002), 225-243.
Maurice Durand, “General” in An Introduction to Vietnamese Literature, trans. David Hawke, (New York: Columbia University Press, 1985): 1-28.
James Anderson, “The Legacy of the Chinese Imperial Tribute System in the South” and “Examples of Negotiated Autonomy,” in The Rebel Den of Nung Tri Cao: Loyalty and Identity Along the Sino-Vietnamese Frontier, (Seattle: University of Washington Press, 2007): 15-67.
Huynh Sanh Thong, “Literature and the Vietnamese,” Vietnam Forum 9 (Winter-Spring, 1987), pp. 37-48.
Huynh Sanh Thong, “Live By Water, Die for Water: Metaphors of Vietnamese Culture and History,” Vietnam Review 1 (1996), 121-153.
Thomas Hodgkin, “Liberation, Ly, Tran, AD 939-1414,” in Vietnam: The Revolutionary Path (McMillan, 1981), pp. 31-56.
O. W. Wolters, “Assertions of Cultural Well-being in 14th Century Viet Nam,” Two Essays on Dai-Viet in the Fourteenth Century (Yale CSEAS, 1988), pp. 3-43.
Li Tana, “A New Land,” in Nguyen Cochinchina, pp. 18-36.
Gerald Hickey, “Pre-Twentieth Century Vietnamese-Highlander Relations,” in Sons of the Mountains: Ethnohistory of the Vietnamese Central Highlands to 1954, (Yale, 1982), pp. 144-189.
Charles Wheeler, “One Region, Two Histories: Cham Precedents in the History of the Hội An Region,” in Borderless Histories, pp. 163-193.
Xinzhong Yao, “Confucianism, Confucius, and Confucian Classics,” in An Introduction to Confucianism (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2006): 16-67.
Nhung Tran, “Beyond the Myth of Equality: Daughter’s Rights in the Lê Code,” in Borderless Histories, pp. 121-144.
“A Brief Legal History of Vietnam,” pp. 4-31. [Introduction to The Le Code]
John K. Whitmore, “The Tao-Dan Group: Poetry, Cosmology, and the State in the Hong-duc Period (1470-1497): 55-70.
Li Tana, Nguyen Cochinchina, chapters 2-4.
Alexander Woodside, “Central Vietnam’s Trading World in the Eighteenth Century as Seen in Le Quy Don’s ‘Frontier Chronicles.’” in Taylor, ed. Essays into Vietnamese Pasts, pp. 157-172.
George Dutton, “Women in the Vietnamese Marketplace: A Historical Overview,” pp. 2-31. (handout)
Michael Cotter, “A Social History of the Vietnamese Southward Expansion.” Journal of Southeast Asian History, (1968): 12-24.
Samuel Barron, A Description of the Kingdom of Tonqueen [excerpts] from Views of Seventeenth-Century Vietnam (Ithaca, NY: Cornell SEAP, 2006): 214-227.
Keith Taylor, “Nguyen Hoang and the Beginning of Vietnam’s Southward Expansion,” in Anthony Reid, ed, Southeast Asia in the Early Modern Era: Trade, Power and Belief, (1993), 42-65.
John Whitmore, “Cartography in Vietnam” in History of Cartography: Vol. 2, Cartography of the Traditional East and Southeast Asian Societies (Chicago Univ. Press, 1994), pp. 478-508.
George Dutton, “Flaming Tiger, Burning Dragon: Elements of Early Modern Vietnamese Military Technology, EASTM 21 (2003): 48-93.
Liam Kelley, Beyond the Bronze Pillars (Hawaii: University of Hawaii Press, 2005)
John Whitmore, “Social Organization and Confucian Thought in Vietnam,” JSEAS XV, No. 2 (Sept. 1984): 296-306.
Sun Laichen, “Chinese Gunpowder Technology and Dai Viet,” in Borderless Histories, pp. 72-120.
Nola Cooke, “Regionalism and the nature of Nguyen rule in seventeenth-century Dang Trong,” Journal of Southeast Asian Studies, 29, 1 (March 1998): 122-162.
Keith Taylor, “The Literati Revival in Seventeenth-Century Vietnam,” Journal of Southeast Asia Studies XVIII, No. 1 (March 1987), pp. 1-23.
Nguyen Du, The Tale of Kieu
Li Tana, “Vietnamese and Uplanders,” “The Tay Son” and “The End of Dang Trong,” in Nguyen Cochinchina, pp. 119-158.
George Dutton, “The Tay Son Uprising: An Overview,” in The Tay Son Uprising (Hawaii, 2006).
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From: olgadror@neo.tamu.edu <olgadror@neo.tamu.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:07 AM
If at can be of any help, Adriano di St. Thecla's Opusculum de sectis apud
Cineses and Tonkineses, translated into English, deals with the state of
religious and cultural affairs in Tonkin in the eighteenth century pretty
thoroughly and history of Vietnamese religion. It also gives consideration
to the exchange of religious ideas between Tonkin and China.
In my book on Lieu Hanh, the firs three chapters give some glimpses on
intellectual history before the Tay Son era.
Best,
Olga
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From: rowens@uga.edu <rowens@uga.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:25 AM
I found the pentagon papers" document relating to the US involvement in Vietnam to be very useful.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/pentagon/pent1.html
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From: olgadror@neo.tamu.edu <olgadror@neo.tamu.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Sorry, I forgot to mention the reference data for the items I mentioned:
1. Adriano di St. Thecla, Opusculum de sectis apud Sinenses et Tunkinenses
( A Study of Religion in China and North Vietnam in the Eighteenth
Century: A Small Treatise on the Sects among the Chinese and the Tonkinese
(Cornell, Southeast Asia Program Publications, 2002)
2.Olga Dror, Cult, Culture, and Authority: Princess Lieu Hanh in
Vietnamese History (University of Hawaii Press, 2007)
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From: rowens@uga.edu <rowens@uga.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:34 AM
By the way, I just discovered this document relating the US fabrication of Vietnam Hoaxes:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/09/6264/
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From: Hue-Tam Ho Tai <hhtai@fas.harvard.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM
To add to George's excellent list, I still assign Keith Taylor's The Birth of Vietnam and quite a few of his articles such as " Authority and Legitimacy in 11th century Vietnam" in the Marr & Milner edited volume, Southeast Asia in the 9th to the 14th century; his article on Do Anh Vu in his and John Whitmore edited volume, Essays into Vietnamese Pasts. I also assign John Whitmore's Vietnam, Ho Quy Ly and the Ming (out of print) and make use of Huynh Sanh Thong's Heritage of Vietnamese Poetry and Truong Buu Lam's anthology Patterns of Vietnamese Response to Foreign Intervention; Li Tana and Nola Cooke, Water Frontier has some great articles that provide a nice contrast to the overwhelmingly northern perspective in Vietnamese historiography.
Hue-Tam Ho Tai
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From: rowens@uga.edu <rowens@uga.edu>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:47 AM
This is a better link: http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/spartans/index.html
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From: John Kleinen <kleinen@uva.nl>
Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Date: Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM
A case study based upon 17th century documents.
Silk for Silver Dutch-Vietnamese relations, 1637-1700
Hoang Anh Tuan
BooksAvailable
Publication year: 2007
Series:TANAP Monographs on the History of Asian-European Interaction, 5
John Kleinen
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