Vietnamese diacritics in Endnote

From: Margaret Bodemer <bodemer@hawaii.edu>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Has anyone had success typing Vietnamese diacritics into their references in Endnote Bibliographic software (I have windows XP on a pc)? I have been trying to find this out from the software company with no luck thus far. I vaguely recall someone else asked this question to the list last year, but I could not locate that discussion in the VSG archives.

Apologies for duplicate questions and thanks in advance for any tips.

Margaret Barnhill Bodemer

PhD Candidate, Anthropology

University of Hawai'i, Manoa

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From: Peter Hansen <phansen@ourladys.org.au>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 3:55 PM

I had a really bad experience with it. The dog (Endnote) comprehensively ate my homework. But that was in 1999, newer versions may have solved the problem.

Peter Hansen

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From: Rob Hurle <rob@coombs.anu.edu.au>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 4:56 PM

Hi Margaret,

> Has anyone had success typing Vietnamese diacritics into their references in Endnote Bibliographic software (I have windows XP on a pc)? I have been trying to find this out from the software company with no luck thus far. I vaguely recall someone else asked this question to the list last year, but I could not locate that discussion in the VSG archives.

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I've had no trouble with Endnote 9. Previously I used Endnote 4 and there was also no problem. However going between the two was not a pleasant experience. 4 uses ISO-8859 encoding and ABC fonts (.vntime, etc) worked well. 9 uses UTF-8 encoding and fonts like Times Roman, Arial etc, work fine (I actually use TTi fonts, like UVN Thoi Nay, etc, because they are nicer). The keyboard input I used in both cases was VNKey (had to change the target encoding, of course), but I've now changed to Unikey. I won't go into the details of the hoops you need to jump through to convert 4 -> 9, but I used a Unix computer and the "iconv" program that comes with it. My Endnote runs on XP.

Hope something here helps. Maybe it's the keyboard input method that's the problem, or the encoding that is selected. Your e-mail message came over in Unicode (UTF-8), so maybe you need to choose that setting.

Cheers,

Rob Hurle

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From: Joe Hannah <jhannah@u.washington.edu>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Hi Margaret,

Any version of Endnote from 8 on should work fine, though "pre-8" versions do not. I used the VietKey keyboard driver set to "unicode" output with no problems.

Joe Hannah

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From: Le Dong Phuong <phuong@fpt.vn>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 6:34 AM

I did use UNICODE character set in Endnote 9 successfull.

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From: rowens@uga.edu <rowens@uga.edu>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Aloha Margret,

about endnote, I do not know how to add diacritics, easily. I prefer to import citations from online data bases and journals. Usually the diacritics transfer, at least that has been the case with French names. Also, you could cut and paste the letters or words in from your word document or a PDF.

-Rich

By the way, which version are you using?

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From: Margaret Bodemer <bodemer@hawaii.edu>

Reply-To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>

Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Thanks!

Margaret Barnhill Bodemer

PhD Candidate, Anthropology

University of Hawai'i, Manoa

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