Based on the Bible?
By Mark Farquharson
There was a knock at the door…. A young man and his mum…. He said about there teachings, that were based on the bible….
I said “Not interested” and they left….
I would say the teachings are based on there understanding and interruption of the bible. And that there understanding would also be based on which translation of the bible that they use. Also it would be based on there own ideas, views, and pervious views and ideas that other people had.
I use to listen to tapes of bible teaching, they used the King James Translation…
From what I heard they did not look to consider other translations….
Lets look…:
Matthew 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Actual the KJV mentions damnation 11 times…now the YLT
`Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye eat up the houses of the widows, and for a pretence make long prayers, because of this ye shall receive more abundant judgment.
Actual the YLT, does not use the word damnation, at all….
Damnation sounds really bad…. And people who think that there is a Hell, would think that this is where these people would go…However, how can you have greater damnation?
Is the fire going to be hotter?
Of course to me Damnation does not fit, no one is going to burn, no one is damned forever..
On the other had YLT says “more abundant judgment”, it is talking about a judgment… if one thinks as I do, about all saved, this means that there are degrees of punishment…
Now lets turn to the CLV, the CLV omit’s the entire verse. The verse is also omitted from the RV, ASV, RSV, ESV, NIV and Rotherham. However it is include in the Old Latin, Spanish Reina Valera, the NKJV, Tyndale, Coverdale, Bishops' bible, the Geneva Bible, the Modern Greek N.T and the Complete Jewish Bible.
The question now is, should this verse be in the bible or not? Just because it is include in a majority of translations does not mean it should be include in the scriptures. There are two New Testament texts that one can base a translation on, the Textus Receptus {Antioch} or the Alexandrian Text. All translations are based on one or the other. The Alexandrian Text is consider more correct, because it is older, but translations like the KJV use the Textus Receptus because the Alexandrian Text was not made available until the late 19th Century.
The question should be is the verse in the original scriptures, the problem is we do not have those. Some verses end up with question marks over then, one reason for this is that it maybe in one text and not the other. Clear you should not base an argument, conclusion on this verse.
Lets look again…
Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? KJV
Matthew 23:33 "Serpents! Progeny of vipers! How may you be fleeing from the judging of Gehenna? CLV
Notice CLV does not say Hell, but Gehenna… So are these people going to be damned in hell?
Or are they going to be subjected to the judgment of Gehenna?
If we look at the “Lake of Fire”, our believes can be influenced by what others have said, by what we have read, by what we are taught.
Is this a real fire that will burn people as loads of people believe, as they have been taught by those who think they know?
It does not say this anywhere at all…. !!!!
Most know about spiritual fire, but they do not apply it here, why not?
The Lake of Fire is a Spiritual Fire, it burns down what you have built, that’s is your false believes, your sin full ways etc.…
You should now start to see that there are different ways of looking at things, I can say my teachings are bible based, but they can be very different to someone else who says that their teachings are bible based….
My believes are based on what I have read, that is what other people have said, it is also based on my own ideas, and which translation I study can also have a influence….
Even with in the camp of All Saved, there are different views, so when I read I may agree or disagree with what that person says…
Now look at this:
1Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2: 3 for this is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Saviour, God,
4 Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.
The top one is from KJV, the other is the CLV…
People who think God is not going to save everyone, have ways of getting around verses like this….
It clearly states “all mankind saved”, but they will say, if everyone decide to be saved then everyone would…. But since everyone does not choice to be save, then there is nothing God can do…
Almighty God can do nothing?
And were does it mention choice?
My interpretation, understanding is different…God is all powerful, his will is strong then that of man… What God says he will do, he will do…
In the bible it talks about Jesus visiting the spirits..:
1 Peter 3 19 in which, being gone to the spirits in jail also,
20 He heralds to those once stubborn, when the patience of God awaited in the days of Noah. CLV
Some have use this to say that he went on a preaching mission in Hell…
However the spirit of Jesus went back to God the Father, when he died, how could he go on a preaching mission?
It does not say that he visited these spirits while he was in Hell… and he did not go to Hell….
And in fact it does not say that these are the spirits of dead people… When you die your spirit goes back to God… and you rest…. Until you are raised…
Matthew 8:16 Now, evening coming on, they bring to Him many demoniacs, and He cast out the spirits with a word, and all those who have an illness He cures CLV
When the bible mentions spirit or spirits in other places like above, most would say it is talking about demons…demons and Angels are called spirits…these people were possessed by demons, they were not possessed by the spirits of dead people..
Of course a person has a spirit, but a demon is a spirit, they don’t have a body…
While a number of people think that
1Peter 3:19 is talking about spirits of people, it could be talking about demons or fallen angels. And in fact a number of people believe it is talking about fallen angels…CLV
Why do people think it is talking about the spirits of the dead people? When in other places that spirits are mentioned, they think it is talking about demons, what is the difference?
There is a Difference in believe, in ideas, and not all of these are based on the bible… They are based on the teachings and ideas, of other people, and the ideas, of the person themselves…
NOT BIBLE BASED:
The spirit of the unbeliever goes to hell when they die…
That the unbeliever stays in Hell forever….
Jesus when on a preaching mission in Hell when he was dead…
That the spirits Jesus preached to were those of dead people.