Tagged as Grim Alex, Bartholomeus Vasco, Alexandria Hypatia

Contributors:

Hydria, Aidan, Hiaen

Alex's brutality is tempered by self preservation

Do you think she took chunks out of Vasco’s face or just the skin?

i feel like she used acid or the like on his face. his eyebrows and hair are Gone for one

it’s Weird, for as much as she likes just tearing at people bare-handed she also shows an interest in like. experimentation and using fucked up elixirs for fucked up things, keeping people alive for long periods of time just so they can suffer more for her amusement

which is something that's often overlooked, she's still intelligent, scarily smart even

i assume she has access to most if not all of hypatia's knowledge so she knows her way around chemicals and how much they can hurt people

gestures to her mentioning experimenting in the audiograph where she butts in on vasco. gestures to the last bits of hypatia's idle dialogue where she talks about keeping a man alive with elixirs so that she can nest bloodflies in his still-living guts. gestures at her musing about using a theoretical fucked up algae to poison people and make them like her

it feels like alex Would want to protect herself so she can keep on doing what she does but also. bitch seems to have no sense of self preservation

gestures at damage lines

I feel like Alex does have a modicum of self-preservation? at least of her mental existence, if not physical integrity. In the way she hides her existence from hypatia for example. Or in the way she attacks Vasco exactly as he was about to finish the counterserum. Idk seems sus

Also as much as she seems to enjoy physical damage, when you cure hypatia she's more "noooooooooooo what have you done".

And if the way she moderately cooperates with the Coup Crew and hides her identity when going out for a fresh meal, she seems to be capable of an amount of forward planning.

She is part of Hypatia after all, she's probably pretty smart, if lacking any inhibition.

kidnapping vasco and killing valiente were both calculated moves, both done just as they were on the cusp of being able to strike against her (the former with the cure, the latter because he knew too much and was about to make his discoveries public)

Yes! She may be ultra brutal in the methods but she knows that being found out will put her existence in danger, or at least significantly lessen her freedom of movement and subsequent amusement

Is Alex born of Hypatia's deeper desires?

Aidan: i’m pretty sure it’s remarked on in game that grim alex are just hypatias deep desires personified? which makes it super interesting, i’m not saying hypatia likes eating people or anything but the serum could’ve taken parts of herself that she’s ashamed of (ie liking vasco) and twist them into Bad Stuff (ie sk audio graph)

Hydria: i think something that can often be missed is the fact that alex also actively hates hypatia, enough to want to injure herself and enough to want to straight up die but also having just enough self preservation to not do that to herself. queen of wanting to get hurt and die while also being the queen of not wanting to get hurt and die simultaneously

Aidan: yeye she’s like a parasite, that only keeps her host alive for her own preservation

Hydria: she wants to see hypatia die but also. hypatia dying means she dies as well and if SHE dies then where's the fun in that smh who's gonna commit heinous acts of violence in her stead. grim "i'd rip out her tongue but that's MY tongue as well and bitches know i love yelling" alex.

the tongue line does show that she does have a little bit of restraint though which is interesting considering her whole schtick is, well, having no restraints

Aidan: it’s da purposeful chaos, we Know grim alex can be intelligent and control herself and just chooses not to at certain points

Hiaen: We discussed it at some point too, but she has enough self-preservation to do some things with prior planning? I.e. not leaving witnesses, getting that poor guard, the timing at which she got her hand on Vasco…

Hydria: she's got maps of both dunwall and karnaca with circles and crosses plus scalpels stabbed into the locations of targets so yeah she's got. she's got planning

Aidan: that makes it worse cause she’s choosing to be messy and painful when dealing with vasco

Hiaen: which might have made Vasco's ordeal even worse because he might have underestimated her at first given the violence and impulsivity... and then he tries to escape and no she knows exactly what she's doing

Hydria: he probably expected her to kill him on the spot but ohoho no sir unfortunately not. while dming with magpie the other day they mentioned always thinking that alex wasn't really anything more than Evil Alter Ego™️ and i just hoho no sir it's character facts time

and it IS interesting that she's pretty much her own person and a shame that it's not well shown in most cases since you're busy either running away or getting her ass as fast as possible

you gotta Stay for the deets but to most staying is scary. me: see, there's bloodstains here on the floor going down the stairs and across the floor so with this evidence you can tell that the corpse on the table isn't a result of hypatia's disease research but rather one of alex's victims who she dragged here t-

half the people i talk to: what the fuck are you on about