01-11-2021

Deres Majestæt Dronning Margrethe II

Dear Pope Francis

Kære Mosaisk Troessamfund

Kære Islamisk Trossamfund

Dear Catholic church in Denmark by bishop Cezlaw Kozon

Dear Father Gregers, Sct. Michael’s church

Dear Church Board in Sct. Michael’s church in Kolding.

Dear Sct. Michael’s church in Kolding

Dear protestant state church in Denmark

Dear bishops in the state church in Denmark

Dear Christian denominations

Dear Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen

Dear Minister of Justice, Justitsminister Nick Hækkerup

Kære Uddannelses- og forskningsminister Jesper Petersen

Kære Børne- og undervisningsminister Pernille Rosenkranz-Theil

Dear newsmedia

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Black is made into white.

Are some kinds of sexual HARRASMENT not really terrible for the victims in comparison to other kinds of sexual HARRASMENT????????????

The Catholic Church in Kolding has written and sent out a statement about the sexual abuses that has taken place in Denmark. There are steps made, a victim can tell their stories to a representative of the local church. Or ultimately to the police.

Here it is up to a victim to find COURAGE to talk with a person IN THE CHURCH Itself. VICTIMS ARE IN THE WORST THINKABLE SITUATIONS. They will need to know ALL KINDS of sexual harassment are taken deeply serious.

Father Gregers uses the term: INAPPROPRIATE Behavior, apparently distinguishing something which according to him IS NOT ILLEGAL. It cannot be prosecuted, he writes.

But it seems as if Father Gregers is not ready to face what really happened in 2010.

It is taken superficially and does not describe what really took place.

It is extremely difficult to understand - to imagine WHAT IS ONLY INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOUR, SUCH AS A PRIEST CAN DO TOWARDS A CHILD OR A TEENAGER????

At workplaces now there are real focus on SEXUAL HARRASMENT that can be VERBALLY as well.

In order to say, the church grieves the victims, then the TRUTH about how BISHOP CESLAW KOZON treated the victims’ situation must be addressed properly.

The church uses a statement from Jesus: The truth will set you free." John 8 v 31-32 in The New Testament.

But the article about BISHOP CESLAW KOZON IN 2010 SAYS LOUD AND CLEAR THAT HE WAS THE REASON VICTIMS WERE NOT HELPED.

Father Gregers is not yet ready, sadly it seems to face up to his superior BISHOP CESLAW KOZON'S MALPRACTICE.

The compassion for the victims is still lacking, when truth is being subdued.

It is NOT true that some things are ONLY INAPPROPRIATE AND THEREFORE NOT STRICTLY ILLEGAL

TRUTH IS THAT BISHOP CESLAW KOZON REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE THE SEXUAL ABUSE CASES

Apparently, he could not care less about CATHOLICS, IF THEY ARE VICTIMS

"Thus, the bishop is at odds with the law, says professor and dr.jur. at the Faculty of Law at the University of Copenhagen, Kirsten Ketscher.

- A large institution such as the Catholic Church is in every way legally responsible for cases of abuse being investigated and stopped. You do not do this by saying that you do not want to investigate previous assaults or report new assaults to the police, she says, adding that the bishop may be violating the law."

- If he knows that children have been abused and at the same time expresses that the victims themselves must cope, it may in the extreme consequence be a form of crime of omission in relation to the penal code. His reasoning that the priests in question are dead or taken out of service does not matter The cases have not been investigated by the police, says Kirsten Ketscher.

The bishop's refusal to report cases to the police can act as a protection for perpetrators assesses Caroline Adolphsen, PhD fellow at the Department of Law, Aarhus University, specializing in the rights of minors."

According to Per Schultz Jørgensen, member of the Children's Council and professor and dr.phil. in psychology specializing in children and adolescents, the bishop and the Catholic Church do not, as lay people, have to decide whether a case should be reported or not

- If the case is deemed to fall under the law as an illegal act against children and young people, the authorities must decide what should be done. Everything else can only be perceived as running from his responsibility, he says

The criticism of the bishop also comes from the church's own ranks.

In a post in Kristeligt Dagblad, Catholic Hans Riese criticizes Catholic leaders, including the Danish bishop, for the "total lack of will and ability to self-examine" in connection with pedophile cases.

- I do not know who it is that advises Bishop Kozon, but it seems as if the bishop is totally unaware of what is moving among the laity he writes." (from article Massiv kritik af katolsk biskop)

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Victims of SEXUAL ABUSE are the frailest and in a situation, where trust is totally destroyed. It will take a lot of strength for a person to find courage to report SEXUAL violence. Most victims will also get threats from the perpetrator. Perpetrators will blame the abuse on the victim. The victim has caused the abuse to take place. And how can anyone believe they will be taken seriously. There is no such thing as "INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR" FROM A PRIEST THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED LESS EVIL AND DESTRUCTIVE TO A VICTIM.

Instead of a board of council from the church where the victims are to report sexual harassment there ought to be an independent instance which is announced so that everyone knows that you can go there and really get council.

It is highly serious that BISHOP CESLAW KOZON's DISREGARD OF VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ABUSE IS NOT SPOKEN OUT LOUDLY BY FATHER GREGERS HERE

Is the church more IMPORTANT than the Catholics, WHO WERE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ABUSE ONLY 10 YEARS AGO

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Underneath here is the statement, which is sent out now in Danish to the catholic church.

We translate it into English here, because the catholic church is very international and many do not understand much danish.

Issued by Father Gregers :

"TERROR AND WHAT WE CAN DO.

Then it happened again! A new report was published. This time it was in France. Over a period of 70 years, more than 330,000 children and young people have become sexually exploited and abused by priests and others in the service of the Church. What has made everything worse is that a number of the French bishops have apparently been aware that it took place but have not done enough at all to stop that.

"The truth will set you free," Jesus says. It's only good that these many thousand cases come for a day. Only in this way can the victims speak up so many years of denial. Only in this way can we take care of the many victims and give them some justice and redress. Only in this way can we get cleaned out in a sick culture and prevent it from happening again as far as possible.

But the truth hurts too! What has happened is unbearable to think about. It shouts to Heaven. It fills us with compassion for the victims. It fills us with anger and shame as Catholics.

Just over ten years ago, it was the Catholic Church in Denmark that - under strong pressure from the media - had to face the truth in terms of possible abuse and failure in this country. Back then, all the accusations that had arisen since the 19th century had been raised against a number of priests in the Catholic Church in Denmark, thoroughly reviewed and unraveled by an independent law firm.

In parallel, a number of cases were taken up and investigated by the police. Police found however at that time not that there was sufficient basis to target any of the living priests.

The lawyer's investigation exposed several cases in the past, but where the priests have now died. The cases could therefore not be thoroughly investigated. As for the cases where the parties involved are still alive, the legal inquiry clarified that there is a difference between inappropriate and illegal behavior. What a few of the living priests concerned, one could perhaps speak of highly inappropriate behavior in Catholic, Christian, and moral sense, which as such must be condemned and taken distance from if it has taken place. But that did not mean that the behavior - or that alleged conduct - had been illegal in the strict legal sense, which of course also is the reason why the police could not prosecute any of the aforementioned priests.

At the parish level, we cannot do much in terms of what has happened. Neither can we do quite a lot for the many victims in France, Denmark or elsewhere in addition to praying for them and celebrating Mass for them. But both at the diocesan level as at the parish level, we cannot do much in terms of what has happened. Nor can we do much for the many victims in France, Denmark or elsewhere besides praying for them and celebrating Mass for them. But both at the diocesan level and at the parish level, we can do a great deal to prevent it from happening again as far as possible.

At the diocesan level, we have a committee that must ensure that everything goes smoothly and is in accordance with current legislation and established visitation rules. This committee consists of a Supreme Court judge and lawyer who is not a Catholic and who can therefore look at the diocese's handling of politicians as well as individual cases with objective eyes. At parish level, Ulla Roed and Luc Le in Kolding and Haderslev, respectively, are responsible for ensuring that everything takes place responsibly, and that, for example, child certificates have been obtained from all catechists and others who deal with minors under the auspices of the parish. As for me as a priest, the policy is that I must never be alone with a minor without another adult present.

But that there are no violations and abuses in the church is ultimately everyone's responsibility. Therefore, if you see or experience inappropriate behavior yourself, reprimand it immediately and tell Ulla Roed or Luc Le. Similarly, if you see or even experience something that could be illegal, report it to the police. We must do what we can so that it does not happen again, and so that our parishes are healthy and safe places for our children and young people and most vulnerable fellow citizens to move in. May God give us his help and wisdom.

Kind regards Lars Krøgholt and Daniela Skov.

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PÅ DANSK

Hvad er kun "en upassende adfærd" fra en præst imod et barn eller en teenager eller en enhver anden lægmand i en menighed???????

Sort er gjort til hvidt.

ER nogle former for seksuelle OVERGREB ikke rigtig forfærdeligt for offeret i forhold til andre former for seksuelle OVERGREB????????????

Den katolske kirke i Kolding har skrevet og udsendt en udtalelse om de seksuelle overgreb, der har fundet sted i Danmark. Der er gjort foranstaltninger, et offer kan fortælle deres historier til en repræsentant for den lokale kirke. Eller i sidste ende til politiet.

Her er det op til et offer at finde MOD til at tale med en person I SELVE KIRKEN. OFRENE ER I DEN VÆRSTE TÆNKELIGE SITUATION.

Fader Gregers bruger udtrykket: UPASSENDE adfærd, og udpeger tilsyneladende noget, der ifølge ham IKKE ER ULOVLIGT. Det kan ikke retsforfølges, skriver han.

Men det ser ud som om Fader Gregers ikke er klar til at indse, hvad der virkelig skete i 2010.

Det bliver behandlet overfladisk og beskriver ikke, hvad der virkelig fandt sted

Det er yderst vanskeligt at forstå - at forestille sig, HVAD DET ER, EN PRÆST KAN GØRE MOD ET BARN ELLER EN TEENAGER, SOM KUN ER UPASSENDE ADFÆRD

På arbejdspladser er der nu virkelig fokus på seksuelle overgreb, der kan være verbale.

Når det siges, at kirken sørger over ofrene, så må SANDHEDEN om, hvordan biskop CESLAW KOZON behandlede ofrenes situation, behandles grundigt og ordentligt.

Kirken bruger en udtalelse fra Jesus: Sandheden vil sætte dig fri." Johannes 8 v. 31-32 i Det Nye Testamente.

Men artiklen om biskop CESLAW KOZON I 2010 SIGER HØJT OG TYDELIGT, AT HAN VAR GRUNDEN TIL, AT OFRENE IKKE BLEV HJULPET.

Fader Gregers er endnu ikke klar, desværre, ser det ud til, at indse sin overordnede, BISKOP CESLAW KOZON'S PLIGTFORSØMMELSE.

Medfølelsen med ofrene mangler stadig, når sandheden bliver undertrykt.

Det er ikke sandt, at nogle ting er kun ER UPASSENDE OG DERFOR STRENGT TAGET IKKE ER ULOVLIGE

SANDHEDEN ER, AT BISKOP CESLAW KOZON NÆGTEDE AT UNDERSØGE SAGERNE OM SEKSUELT MISBRUG

Tilsyneladende er han ligeglad med KATOLIKKER, HVIS DE ER OFRE

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”- Biskoppen er således på kant med loven, siger professor og dr.jur. på Det Juridiske Fakultet på Københavns Universitet, Kirsten Ketscher.

– En stor institution som den katolske kirke er på alle måder juridisk ansvarlig for, at sager om overgreb bliver undersøgt og stoppet. Det gør man ikke ved at sige, at man hverken vil undersøge tidligere overgreb eller melde nye overgreb til politiet, siger hun og tilføjer, at biskoppen muligvis overtræder loven."

– Hvis han ved, at børn er blevet misbrugt og samtidig giver udtryk for, at det må ofrene selv klare, kan det i yderste konsekvens dreje sig om en form for undladelsesforbrydelse i relation til straffeloven. Hans begrundelse med, at de pågældende præster er døde eller taget ud af tjeneste, er ligegyldigSagerne er jo ikke politimæssigt efterforsket, siger Kirsten Ketscher.

Biskoppens afvisning af at melde sager til politiet kan virke som en beskyttelse af overgrebsmænd, vurderer Caroline Adolphsen, ph.d.-stipendiat ved juridisk institut, Aarhus Universitet, med speciale i mindreåriges rettigheder.

– Det er dybt problematisk at sige sådan noget. Selvom man kan argumentere for, at han ikke har strafferetlig pligt til at gå til politiet, har hans udsagn en problematisk signalværdi. Det signal, han sender til både ofre og potentielle krænkere, er, at det her er noget, vi løser internt i kirken – det blander vi ikke myndighederne ind i, siger hun.

Ifølge studieleder og lektor i teologi ved Aarhus Universitet, Peter Lodberg, vil det få fatale konsekvenser for kirken ikke at kulegrave de fire-fem sager om misbrug:

– Hvis kirken ingenting gør, vil sagerne være som en snebold, der ruller og bliver så stor, at den vil ødelægge den katolske kirkes opbakning og troværdighed i Danmark. Disse sager har så alvorlig karakter, at dem skal man bare til bunds i, siger han.

Ifølge Per Schultz Jørgensen, medlem af Børnerådet og professor og dr.phil. i psykologi med speciale i børn og unge, skal biskoppen og den katolske kirke ikke som lægmænd afgøre, om en sag skal anmeldes eller ej

– Hvis sagen skønnes at falde ind under lovgivningen som en ulovlig handling mod børn og unge, skal myndighederne afgøre, hvad der bør gøres. Alt andet kan kun opfattes som at løbe fra sit ansvar, siger han.

Kritikken af biskoppen kommer også fra kirkens egne rækker.

I et indlæg i Kristeligt Dagblad i dag kritiserer katolik Hans Riese katolske ledere, herunder den danske biskop, for den "totale mangel på vilje og evne til selvransagelse" i forbindelse med pædofilisager.

– Jeg ved ikke, hvem det er, der rådgiver biskop Kozon, men det synes som om, biskoppen er totalt uvidende om, hvad der rører sig blandt lægfolketskriver han.” (Fra artiklen i Kristeligt Dagblad Massiv kritik af katolsk biskop)

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Ofre for seksuelt misbrug er de svageste og i en situation, hvor tilliden er fuldstændig ødelagt. Det vil kræve en masse styrke for en person at finde mod til at anmelde seksuel vold. De fleste ofre vil også blive truet af krænkeren. Krænkere vil ofte skyde skylden for misbruget på voldtægtsofferet. Offeret har forårsaget at misbruget fandt sted. Og hvordan kan nogen tro, at de vil blive taget alvorligt. Der er ikke sådan noget som "upassende adfærd" fra en præst, der kan betragtes som mindre onde og ødelæggende for et offer.

I stedet for at offeret skal kontakte et råd fra kirken med nogen som helst former for krænkelse, burde der være en UVILDIG INSTANS, så alle ved, at man kan gå til denne uvildige instans hvor ofre virkelig kan blive rådgivet.

Det er meget alvorligt, at biskop CESLAW KOZON's tilsidesættelse af ofre for seksuelt misbrug ikke er udtalt højt af fader Gregers her

Er kirken vigtigere end katolikkerne, der blev ofre for seksuelt misbrug for kun 10 år siden

Den katolske biskop i Danmark sætter kirkens troværdighed over styr ved ikke at ville undersøge gamle sager om sexmisbrug.

Herunder er den erklæring, som nu er sendt ud til den katolske kirke.

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Skrevet af Fader Gregers:

FORFÆRDELSE OG DET, VI KAN GØRE.

Så skete det igen! En ny rapport blev offentliggjort. Denne gang var det i Frankrig. Over en periode på 70 år er mere end 330.000 børn og unge blevet seksuelt udnyttet og krænket af præster og andre i Kirkens tjeneste. Hvad, der har gjort alting værre, er, at et antal af de franske biskopper åbenbart har været klar over, at det fandt sted, men har slet ikke gjort tilstrækkeligt for at standse det.

”Sandheden skal gøre jer fri,” siger Jesus. Det er kun godt, at disse mange tusinde sager kommer for en dag. Kun således kan ofrene komme til orde efter så mange år med fornægtelse. Kun således kan vi tage hånd om de mange ofre og yde dem en vis retfærdighed og oprejsning. Kun således kan vi få renset ud i en syg kultur og forhindre i videst muligt omfang, at det sker igen.

Men sandheden gør også ondt! Det, der er sket, er ikke til at holde ud at tænke på. Det skriger til Himlen. Det fylder os med medfølelse for ofrene. Det fylder os med vrede og skam som katolikker.

For godt ti år siden var det Den katolske Kirke i Danmark, der - kraftigt presset af medierne - måtte se sandheden i øjnene, hvad angik mulige overgreb og svigt i dette land. Dengang blev alle de beskyldninger, der siden 1800-tallet havde været rejst mod et antal præster i Den katolske Kirke i Danmark, grundigt gennemgået og gennemtrævlet af en uafhængig advokatundersøgelse.

Sideløbende blev en række sager taget op og undersøgt af politiet. Politiet fandt dog dengang ikke, at der var grundlag nok til at sigte nogen af de nulevende præster.

Advokatundersøgelsen blotlagde flere sager i fortiden, men hvor præsterne nu er døde. Sagerne kunne derfor ikke undersøges til bunds. Hvad angik de sager, hvor de involverede parter stadig er i live, klargjorde advokatundersøgelsen, at der er forskel på upassende og ulovlig opførsel. Hvad enkelte af de nulevende præster angik, kunne man i måske nok tale om højst upassende opførsel i katolsk, kristen og moralsk forstand, der som sådan må fordømmes og tages afstand fra, hvis det har fundet sted. Men det betød ikke, at opførslen - eller den påståede opførsel - havde været ulovlige i streng juridisk forstand, hvilket jo også er grunden til, at politiet ikke kunne rejse tiltale mod nogen af de nævnte præster.

På sogneniveau kan vi ikke gøre meget, hvad angår det, som er sket. Ej heller kan vi gøre ret meget for de mange ofre i Frankrig, Danmark eller andre steder ud over at bede for dem og fejre messe for dem. Men såvel på bispedømmeplan som på sogneniveau kan vi gøre rigtigt meget for i videst muligt omfang at forhindre, at det ikke sker igen.

På bispedømmeplan har vi et udvalg, der skal sørge for, at alt går rigtigt for sig og er i overensstemmelse med gældende lovgivning og fastlagte samværsregler. I dette udvalg sidder der en højesteretsdommer og advokat, der ikke er katolikker, og som derfor kan se på bispedømmets håndtering af politiker såvel som enkeltsager med objektive øjne. På sogneniveau er Ulla Roed og Luc Le i henholdsvis Kolding og Haderslev ansvarlige for, at alt foregår på ansvarlig vis, og at der for eksempel er indhentet børneattester på alle kateketer og andre, der har med mindreårige at gøre i sogneregi. Hvad angår mig som præst, så er politikken den, jeg må aldrig være alene sammen med en mindreårig, uden at der er en anden voksen til stede.

Men at der ikke sker krænkelser og overgreb i kirkelig regi er jo i sidste ende alles ansvar. Derfor hvis du ser eller selv oplever upassende opførsel, så påtal det med det samme og fortæl det til Ulla Roed eller Luc Le. Tilsvarende, hvis du ser eller selv oplever noget, der kunne være ulovligt, så meld det til politiet. Vi må gøre, hvad vi kan, for at det ikke sker igen, og for at vore sogne er sunde og sikre steder for vore børn og unge og mest sårbare medborgere at færdes i. Må Gud dertil give os sin hjælp og visdom."

Med venlig hilsen Lars Krøgholt og Daniela Skov.

To artikler fra Kristeligt Dagblad