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Hvornår kommer I fra Frikirkenet på banen i al den mangel på dåbsundervisning i Folkekirken

Bent Feldbæk:

http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/kirke-tro/snedsted-praest-ramsdal-skal-bede-om-omvendelse

Folkekirken har også tidligere brugt neddykningsdåb | Kristendom.dk

http://www.kristendom.dk/kirke-tro/historisk-er-daab-ved-fuld-neddykning-velkendt

Kirkehistoriker Kurt E Larsen GLEMMER ELLER KENDER IKKE ‼️‼️‼️eller ignorerer BEVIDST‼️‼️‼️TIL AT DER ER TO VIDT FORSKELLIGE LÆRE OG BIBEL UDLÆGNING OG AT DEN TRO DEN ETIOPISKE HOFMAND LOD SIG DØBE PÅ ER DEN AT BLIVE DØBT TIL KRISTUS. VAR DET IKKE DEN LÆRE , DER KOSTED BENT FELDBÆK SIT EMBEDE VED ET RETSLIGT FORLØB. DET MÅ KURT E LARSEN DA VIDE????

Det er en meget overfladisk og ikke sandfærdig udlægning han her tillader sig ENDOG som ekspert at udtale OG MISBRUGE GUDS ORD TIL SIN EGEN FORDEL MHT BERETNINGEN OM DEN ETIOPISKE HOFMAND DER BAD FILIP OM AT DØBE SIG LIGE EFTER HAN VAR KOMMET TIL TRO ! Den frelsende tro på JESUS MODTOG HAN OG SÅ DERFRA VAR DER SOM BIBRLTEKSTEN KLART FORLYDER " INGEN HINDRING FOR AT HAN KU BLIVE DÆBT" TIL KRISTUS JESUS OG DERMED VÆLGE JESUS SOM HERRE I SIT LIV OG SIG SELV SOM LÆRLING = DISCIPEL!

og INGEN kan sige KURT E LARSEN imod og bevise, at folkekirkens biskopper og eksperter MÅ HA EN MEGET KORT HUKOMMELSE OG OGSÅ OVERFLADISK FORHOLD TIL RELIGIONSFRIHEDEN VI BORGERE TRODS ALT FORHÅBENTLIGT STADIG HAR VED GRUNDLOVS SIKRET RETTIGHED I DANMARK.

HVORFOR HAR DE GLEMT BENT FELDBÆK SAGEN? Er det med vilje, da ingen lægfolk måske forstår det så godt, så de kan fastholde deres "RET" uden at forvente at blive sagt imod. Den etiopiske HOFMAND blev IKKE DØBT UDFRA DET BIBEL BELÆG DER KOM LANGT SENERE, SOM DE BRUGER SOM BERETTIGELSE FOR AT DØBE BØRN, OG FÅ MENNESKER OVERALT TIL AT TRO , AT DÅBEN ER DIREKTE TRYGHED OG ADGANG TIL FRELSEN OG EVIGT LIV . DET ER FALSKT OG GIR MENNESKER FRYGT, "FOR HVAD HVIS BARNET DØR FØR DET BLIR DØBT?"

De overvejelser kommer af den statskirkelige DÅBSLÆRE OG PRAKSIS OG OVERØSNING MED VAND STAMMER FRA ODINKULTEN, OG DET VÆLGER DE AT FORNÆGTE. DET ER YDERST ALARMERENDE.

"”I Bibelen er der beretningen om den etiopiske hofmand, som bliver kristen og ønsker at blive døbt. Han spørger, hvad der er til hinder for det, og svaret er, at han skal stige ned i vandet. I 200- til 300-tallet er der en kilde fra Rom, som fortæller, hvordan menighedslivet formede sig. Den normale måde at døbe på er her, at man går ned i rindende vand. Men hvis det ikke findes, gør det ikke noget. Igen ser vi holdningen, at det ikke er formen, der er afgørende. Men den naturlige måde at døbe på er ved fuld neddykning,” siger Kurt E. Larsen."

"At rette præst for dommer - Kultur | www.b.dk :VIBORG: Der er ikke plads til Bent Feldbæk Nielsen og hans holdninger i den danske folkekirke. Det afgjorde Vestre Landsret i Viborg i går, og den dom betyder, at den såkaldte præsteret, der for tre år siden afskedigede Bent Feldbæk Nielsen som sognepræst ved Snedsted Kirke i Thy, handlede helt korrekt. »Hvor er jeg glad på Snedsted Sogns vegne. Nu er der en ledig stilling som præst ved vores kirke, og nu kan alting blive normalt igen,« sagde Preben Dahlgaard, der som formand for menighedsrådet i Snedsted var mødt op i landsretten for at høre dommen."

http://natgeo.dk/vand-gennem-tiderne-0

http://www.b.dk/kultur/rette-praest-dommer#

https://www.djoef-forlag.dk/da/boeger/t/to-laeresager-i-folkekirken

Mvh Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt.​

​ENGLISH TRANSLATION

Church historian Kurt E Larsen FORGETs OR DOES NOT KNOW! ️! ️! ️eller ignore AWARE! ️! ️! ️TIL THAT IS TO FAR DIFFERENT LEARNING AND BIBLE PLACING AND THE FAITH to the Ethiopian baptized ON IS TO BE BAPTIZED TO CHRIST . IT WAS NOT THE LEARNING TO KOSTED BENT Feldbæk office AT ANY LEGAL PROCESS. IT MUST KURT E LARSEN EN KNOW ????

It is a very superficial and not truthful interpretation here he allows himself EVEN as an expert to comment IT IS ABUSE OF GOD'S WORD FOR THEIR OWN BENEFIT IN REGARDS TO REPORT ON Ethiopian THAT ASKED FILIP to baptize HIM IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE HAD COME TO FAITH! Right after having received the saving faith in JESUS, he said "What prevents me from being baptized?" as the bible text clearly reports. He chose for himself Jesus as God in his life and himself as apprentice= disciple!

And no one can contradict Kurt E Larsen and prove that the State Church bishops and experts DO HAVE A VERY SHORT MEMORY AND ALSO SUPERFICIAL RELATION TO RELIGION FREEDOM WE CITIZENS DESPITE ALL Hopefully STILL ARE SECURED THROUGH THE CONSTITUTION IN DENMARK.

WHY HAVE THEY FORGOTTEN THE BENT FELDBÆK MATTER? Is it on purpose, as no lay people might understand it as well, so that they can maintain their "being right " without expecting to be contradicted. The Ethiopian eunuch was NOT BAPTIZED according to the BIBLE INTERPRETATION THAT NECESSARILY WOULD COME MUCH LATER WHICH THEY USE as a reason to baptize CHILDREN AND GET PEOPLE EVERYWHERE TO BELIEVE THAT BAPTISM IS DIRECT SAFETY AND ACCESS TO Salvation and eternal life. IT IS FALSE AND GIVES PEOPLE A FEAR "OF WHAT IF THE CHILD DIES BEFORE it'll BE BAPTIZED?"

The reflection comes from the state church's (Lutheran) doctrine of baptism AND PRACTICE, AND Sprinkling of WATER ARISING FROM ODINCULT AND THEY CHOOSE TO DENY IT. IT IS EXTREMELY ALARMING.

"" In the Bible there is the story of the Ethiopian eunuch, who wants to become a Christian and wants to be baptized. He asks what there is to prevent it, and the answer is that he must descend into the water. In the 300- to 400 century there is a source from Rome, telling how church life was. The normal way of baptism is here that one descends into running water. But if it does not exist, it does not matter. Again we see the attitude that it is not the form that is essential. But the natural way of baptism is by full immersion, "says Kurt E. Larsen."

"To correct priest for judge" - an article in the newspaper Berlingske - "There is no place for Bent Feldbæk Nielsen and his positions in the Danish Church. It settled by the High Court in Viborg yesterday and the judgment means that the so-called pastoral court, which three years ago dismissed Bent Feldbæk Nielsen as vicar at Snedsted Church in Thy acted correctly. "How happy I am on behalf off Snedsted Parish. Now there is a vacant pastor office at our church, and now anything can be normally again, "said Preben Dahlgaard, who as chairman of the parish council in Snedsted and showed up in the High Court to hear the judgment."

http://www.b.dk/kultur/rette-praest-dommer#

https://www.djoef-forlag.dk/da/boeger/t/to-laeresager-i-folkekirken

http://natgeo.dk/vand-gennem-tiderne-0

The referenced article where church historian Kurt E Larsen speaks about baptism can be summarized this way

The Danish king Harald Blaatand was one of the first to be baptized in Denmark. Kurt E. Larsen says that there is no doubt that he was baptized by full immersion. This form of baptism has been followed several times in the history of the Danish church and is now in the current news since immigrants become members of the State Church and ask for baptism by immersion or question the baptims by sprinkling.

Baptism by immersion has been used up until Luther, but in 1539 rules came where one can see that baptism by immersion has been dropped.

Up through history the baptistic revival gave way for a discussion of the practice of baptism.

In 1839 comes the first baptist congregation and the baptism of adult believers by full immersion. Other people reacted, they meant that the baptists were wrong in their rejection of the child christening. But there was a good symbolism in the full immersion: they get cleansed and resurrected in the baptism, says Kurt E. Larsen.

In 1842 a man was allowed to baptize his newborn baby by full immersion. In 1851 came a royal grant that pastors may baptize with full immersion, but thay they of course should follow the ritual of christening.

Kurt E Larsen thinks that it should be "unproblematic" to reintroduce it, also if one looks on the Biblical description of the baptism:

" In the Bible there is the story of the Ethiopian eunuch, who wants to become a Christian and wants to be baptized. He asks what there is to prevent it, and the answer is that he must descend into the water. In the 300- to 400 century there is a source from Rome, telling how church life was. The normal way of baptism is here that one descends into running water. But if it does not exist, it does not matter. Again we see the attitude that it is not the form that is essential. But the natural way of baptism is by full immersion, "says Kurt E. Larsen."

Regards Daniela

​Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt.