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Deres Majestæt!
Kære Statsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen
Kære Justitsminister Søren Pind
Kære Kirkeminister Bertel Haarder
Kære Borgmester i Viborg Torsten Nielsen og byrådet i Viborg
Kære 1. Viceborgmester Jens Rohde
Kære 2. Viceborgmester Per Møller Jensen
Kære Borgmester i Struer Mads Jacobsen
Kære Biskop Henrik Stubkjær
Kære Provst Carsten Hoffmann
Kære Senioranklager Merete Sanning
I 2012 bad vi biskop Karsten Nissen og provst Carsten Hoffmann, Struer provsti samt menighedsrådet i Hjerm, som hører til provstens tilsynsområde om at yde medarbejderpleje, -omsorg over for Hjerms nye sognepræst Jonas Serner Pedersen, da han kom fra en meget svær situation med 1½ års mobning fra lederskabet i Kolding Valgmenighed. Vi havde bedt Jonas Serner-Pedersen i april/maj 2012 om udmeldelseskvittering for at være sikker på at være udmeldt af Kolding Valgmenighed. Det var en samvittighedssag. Vi ønsker ikke at være medlem af en kirke, hvor lederskabet mobber deres præst. Desuden bad Daniela Jonas Serner-Pedersen som var hendes præst i Kolding, om en påkrævet anbefaling til Academy i Life Church i Bradford, England. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen var blevet fyret fra sin stilling i Kolding Valgmenighed ganske pludseligt, så han var i stor krise. Lederskabet havde beskyldt ham for ikke at være god til at udføre administrative opgaver. Han havde endda specifikt bedt Daniela komme og bede for ham en til to dage efter fyringen. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen giver os aldrig nogen tilbagemelding på de papirmæssige spørgsmål vi har, hverken ”ja”, ”nej” eller ”vil ikke”. I stedet bruger han Holstebro politi 19 sept. 2012 til at få et polititilhold på os, så han slipper for at vi kommer op og får ordnet de papirmæssige forhold, der kunne tage 15 minutter af hans tid. Struer politi er også involveret. Den første tid efter at vi fik polititilhold var vi meget chokerede, i krise og rystede og kunne slet ikke fatte, at det var vores tidligere præst, nu Sognepræst i Hjerm kirker Jonas Serner-Pedersen, der stod bag at politiet ringede til os, så vi kontaktede ham i et stykke tid efter. Daniela blev ringet op af Struer politi, og vi er blevet ringet op af Holstebro politi og Sydøstjyllands Politi. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen må jo have direkte kontaktet dem, når vi har skrevet til ham. Det der gjorde, at vi forstod alvoren var, at politiet i Holstebro eller Sydøstjylland eller måske Struer sagde: ”næste gang bliver det FÆNGSEL!”. Vi har aldrig været i polititilhør, men har fået tildelt bødestraf. Vi er blevet nægtet partshøring af Holstebro politi som det seneste. Statsadvokaten, Senioranklager i Viborg anmodede Holstebro politi om at kalde os ind til partshøring, men det er nægtet af politiet.
I foråret 2013 var vi kaldt ind i retten i Holstebro.
Citat fra ”Udskrift af dombogen. DOM afsagt den 20. juni 2013”:
”Påstande. Anklagemyndigheden har nedlagt påstand om bødestraf. De tiltalte har erkendt sig skyldige.
Sagens oplysninger.
Daniela Skov har forklaret, at det er rigtigt, at hun har afsendt sms-beskeder samt mailet til Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, ligesom hun også har indtalt forskellige beskeder på Serner-Pedersens telefonsvarer. Hun kan således godt erkende, at hun har overtrådt tilholdet af 12. november 2012, men hun forstår ikke baggrunden for det pågældende tilhold. Hun fik nærmest et chok, da tilholdet blev forkyndt for hende, og hun var efterfølgende i alvorlig krise. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen havde været næstformand i en forening kaldet ”Oasen” (”Dansk Oase”, vor anm.), som er en kirkelig organisation under Kolding Valgmenighed. Der opstod på et tidspunkt alvorlige problemer i ”Oasen”, hvor også tiltalte havde en søn, som var med i bevægelsen. På et tidspunkt blev Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen bortvist fra Kolding Valgmenighed. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen syntes, at kirken skulle beskyttes, og han ville derfor ikke være med til at afdække de ulovligheder, der var foregået i ”Oasen". Tiltalte og Lars Krøgholt rettede henvendelse til Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, fordi han skulle sende dem nogle papirer, men der skete ingenting. De manglede således nogle udmeldelsespapirer samt en kvittering for modtagelse af en udmeldelse. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen forholdt sig fuldstændig passiv, og dette er baggrunden for de gentagne henvendelser til ham fra de tiltaltes side.
Lars Krøgholt har forklaret, at han også kan erkende at have afsendt sms-beskeder, e-mails og foretaget opkald til Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, som nævnt i forhold 5 og 6. Han kan i det hele henholde sig til den forklaring, som er afgivet af Daniela Skov. Tiltalte skulle også bruge nogle papirer, herunder en kvittering og en referenceskrivelse fra Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen.”
En politibetjent i Midt- og Vestjyllands Politi i Holstebro ringede os op på Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersens vegne 19-09-2012. Han har holdt sin identitet skjult indtil nu, hvilket betyder at vi har mistet vores lovmæssige retssikkerhed i Danmark, og det er måske også derfor politiet har nægtet os partshøring på trods af Statsadvokatens besked til dem. En politibetjent vist nok en Jesper Andersen – vi har udskrift af forhøret - har været i forhør hos politiet, men de havde valgt at forhøre pågældende betjent om en forkerte dato.
Link til afgørelsen https://goo.gl/FVBjVh
I 2014 fandt vi selv ud af, nærmest ved et tilfælde, at Jonas Serner-Pedersen havde indmeldt os mod vor viden og vilje i to sognekirker her i Kolding. Han var som vores præst i besiddelse af vores udmeldelsespapirer med vores cpr-numre og hans håndskrevne underskrift. Vi har så været indmeldt i to sognekirker uretmæssigt og har betalt kirkeskat imod vor vilje og viden. Vi har som borgere i Danmark grundlovssikret religionsfrihed, så for os er det forfatningsstridigt, at vi blev tilmeldt statskirker mod vor vilje og bag om ryggen på os. Og præster, provster og biskopper er folkevalgte i det kirkelige demokrati. Vi har selv tidligere udmeldt os af den danske folkekirke efter grundige overvejelser og ladet os døbe i hhv. Pinsekirken i Esbjerg 1997 (Daniela Skov) og i Apostolsk Kirke Kolding, 2007 (Lars Skov Krøgholt). Retten i Holstebro undrede sig meget over at de ikke var blevet oplyst fra Jonas Serner-Pedersen omkring de papirer, vi havde forsøgt at tale med ham om tilbage fra april/maj 2012. Carsten Hofmann, Struer Provsti har været vidende om disse ting helt tilbage fra efteråret (omkring september) 2012.
Biskoppen i Viborg Henrik Stubkjær har den 2. oktober været i Hjerm for at tale om sit embede og skiftet fra at være Generalsekretær for Folkekirkens Nødhjælp. På Hjerm kirkers side på Facebook er indsat et billede, en selfie af sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen med Henrik Stubkjær i baggrunden. Hvis jeg var biskop, ville jeg blive alarmeret over, at en sognepræst vælger på Facebook at fremvise en embedsmand, der taler ved et offentligt møde på en sådan selvdyrkende og respektløs måde.
I Dagbladet Information for i går http://www.information.dk/547395 er FORSIDEN viet til temaet at politiet lyver. Det er ikke godt for os borgere og det er magtovergreb, at deres biskop er ligeglad med at han og Jonas benytter sig af politiløgn, så Jonas ikke skal tale med os om sin forfatningsstridige indmeldelse af os i statsreligionen og statskirken som vi udtrykkeligt ikke ønskede at være meldt ind i!
Og vi oplever det meget respektløst mod os og mod borgerne i HJERM at de ikke tager hånd om at få fjernet polititilhold og tager alvorligt, at politiet lyver og nægter os borgere PARTSHØRING på trods af henstilling fra Statsadvokat i VIBORG, Senioranklager Merete Sanning‼
Det falder tilbage på byens kommune, når dens biskop er direkte involveret og holder hånden over politi løgne fra den præst, som det er hans ansvar at føre tilsyn med.
Hvis de frasiger sig at de er en del af politik og samfund, så bliver vi andre bare legetøj for dem. Måske er det derfor de ikke mener de behøver at tage ansvar for de konsekvenser deres liv har i deres medborgeres liv. Det er en total misforståelse. Biskoppen lyver for sig selv om sin og kirkens rolle i politik. Ingen kan holde sig uden for politik. Det er ansvarsfralæggelse, at de tror de kan melde sig ud af samfundet og sige vi har ikke noget med politik at gøre. Indgår vi ikke alle i det politiske liv i vores samfund, blot i egenskab af at være borgere i vort land? Når sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen og biskop Henrik Stubkjær er involveret sammen med politiet i at nægte os partshøring, og i at vi har MISTET vores retssikkerhed som borgere i Danmark, så står biskoppen og sognepræsten ikke som nogen der blander sig uden om politik, men de står som KIRKENS repræsentanter for LOVLØSHED OG ANARKI!!!
Med venlig hilsen Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
In 2012, we asked Bishop Karsten Nissen and Dean Carsten Hoffmann, Struer deanery and Parish Council in Hjerm, which belongs to the Dean’s regulatory area to provide employee care to the new vicar in the parish of Hjerm Jonas Serner P, since he came from a very difficult situation with 1 ½ years of bullying from the leadership in the church Kolding Valgmenighed. We had asked Jonas Serner-Pedersen in April/May 2012 about a receipt to be sure we were signed out of Kolding Valgmenighed. It was a matter of conscience. We do not want to be a member of a church where the leadership bully their pastor. In addition, Daniela Skov asked Jonas Serner-Pedersen who was her pastor in Kolding, about a required recommendation for the Academy of “Life Church” in Bradford, England. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen had been fired from his position in Kolding Valgmenighed quite suddenly, so he was in a great crisis. The leadership had accused him of not being good to perform administrative tasks. He even had specifically asked Daniela come and pray for him one to two days after the dismissal. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen never gave us any feedback on the issue of finishing papers for us, neither "Yes", "no" or "will not". Instead, he uses “Midt- og Vestjyllands politi” police 19 sept. 2012 to get a police restraining order on us, so he won't have to have us come up and get the papers done which could have taken 15 minutes of his time. Struer police are also involved.
The first time after we got summonses, we were very shocked, in crisis and shook and could not comprehend that it was our former pastor, now parish pastor in Hjerm churches Jonas Serner-Pedersen, who stood behind that the police called us, so we contacted in writing him for a while after. Daniela was called up by the police, Struer and we have been called up by Holstebro police and South East Jutland Police. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen may then have directly contacted them after we wrote to him. What made us understand the seriousness was that the police in Holstebro or Southeast Jutland or perhaps Struer said: "next time it will be in PRISON!". We have never been interrogated by the police, but we have been assigned a financial penalty. We have been denied an interrogation by Holstebro police as the latest. The public prosecutor, Senior Prosecutor in Viborg requested Holstebro police to call us in for the interrogation, but it was denied by the police.
In the spring of 2013, we were called into court in Holstebro.
Quote from "Transcript of dombogen. Judgment on 20. June 2013 ":
"Allegations. The prosecution contends financial penalty. The defendants have pleaded guilty.
Proceedings information.
Daniela Skov has explained that it is true that she has sent text messages as well as emailed to Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, just as she has also recorded various messages on Serner-Pedersen's answering machine. She may well recognize that she has violated the estrangement measures by 12. November 2012, but she does not understand the background for the restraining order. She got almost a shock when the estrangement measures was served on her, and she was subsequently in serious crisis. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen had been Vice-President of an association called "The Oasis" ("Danish Oasis", our note), which is an ecclesiastical organisation under the Kolding Valgmenighed. There was at one time serious problems in "the OASIS", where the accused had a son who was a member of the movement. At one point in time was Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen expelled from Kolding Valgmenighed. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen thought that the Church should be protected, and he would therefore not help to uncover the illegal activity that had taken place in "the OASIS". Defendants and Lars Krøgholt made contact to Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, because he was going to send them some papers, but nothing happened. Thus some notice they lacked papers as well as an acknowledgement of receipt of a resignation. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen remained totally passive, and this is the reason for the repeated request to him from the defendants ' side.
Lars Krøgholt explained that he also can admit having sent text messages, emails and made calls to Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, as mentioned in the conditions 5 and 6. He can, overall, refer to the explanation, as offered by Daniela Skov. Defendants should also use some papers, including a receipt and a reference letter from Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen,"
A police officer in Central and Western Jutland Police in Holstebro rang us up on Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen's behalf, 19-09-2012. He has kept his identity hidden until now, which means that we have lost our legal certainty in Denmark, and it is perhaps also, why police has denied us-party consultation in spite of State Attorney's message to them. A police officer Jesper Andersen was in interrogation with the police, but they had chosen to interrogate concerned the PC on a wrong date.
Link to decision https://goo.gl/FVBjVh
In 2014 we found out for ourselves, almost by chance, that Jonas Serner-Pedersen had joined us without our knowledge and will in two parish churches here in Kolding. He was as our pastor in possession of our notice papers with our social security numbers and his handwritten signature. We have then been joined in two parish churches improperly and has paid the church tax against our will and knowledge. We have as citizens in Denmark constitutional religious freedom, so for us it is unconstitutional, that we were enrolled in State churches against our will and behind the back of us. And pastors, deans and bishops are elected in the ecclesiastical democracy. We have even earlier announced us of the Danish people's Church after thorough considerations and let us baptize in respectively The Pentecostal Church in Esbjerg 1997 (Daniela Skov) and Apostolic Church in Kolding, 2007 (Lars Skov Krøgholt). The Court in Holstebro marvelled much that they had not been informed of Jonas Serner-Pedersen about the papers we had tried to talk to him about back from April/May 2012. Carsten Hofmann, Struer Deanery has been knowledgeable about these things all the way back from the fall (around september) 2012.
The Bishop of Viborg Henrik Stubkjær has the 2. October been in Hjerm to talk about his Office and the change from being General Secretary of DanChurchAid. On Hjerm churches’s page on Facebook is inserted a picture, a selfie of parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen with Henrik Stubkjær in the background. If I were the Bishop, I'd be alarmed that a parish pastor chooses on Facebook to showcase an official speaking at a public meeting in this self-displaying way.
In the newspaper “Information” for yesterday the FRONT PAGE is devoted to the theme that the police is lying. It is not good for us citizens and it is abusive that their Bishop does not care that he and Jonas take advantage of police lie so Jonas shall not speak with us about his unconstitutional enrollment of us in the State religion and State Church as we expressly did not want to be enrolled in!
And we are experiencing it very disrespectful against us and against the citizens of Hjerm that they do not take care of the removal of police restraining order and take it seriously that the police are lying and denying us citizens-PARTY CONSULTATION despite the recommendation of the public prosecutor in VIBORG, Senior Prosecutor Merete Sanning ‼
It falls back on the city's municipality, when its Bishop is directly involved and keeps the hand of police lies from the pastor, as it is his responsibility to supervise.
If they disclaim that they are part of politics and society, then the rest of us are just toys for them. Maybe that is why they do not believe they need to take responsibility for the impact their lives have in their fellow citizens ' lives. It is a total misconception that they can sign up out of society and say that we have nothing to do with politics. We are not all included in the political life of our society, just as to be citizens in our country? When the parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen and Bishop Henry Stubkjær is involved together with the police in to deny us the consultation of interested parties, and in that we have lost our legal security as citizens in Denmark, so says the Bishop and the parish priest not as someone who stay out of politics, but they stand as CHURCH representatives of LAWLESSNESS and ANARCHY!!!
With best regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt