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Sent to Journalist from Britain, Lizzie Dearden :
British journalist wondering : "Does Denmark really spend the second highest amount of money on refugees?"
Britisk journalist undres: Bruger Danmark virkelig næstflest penge på flygtninge i EU? | Kristeligt Dagblad
Yes, it is a gross lie and seemingly as a propaganda rethorics - unintentionally I dare say, on the Newspapers part!!!?! telling such undocumented allegation to reader's faces.
People suffer immensely and for such length of time missing their loved ones and grieving that their families are stuck in the war zone. The little children cannot understand why their dad is gone missing!!!
And a small child never really knows her dad nearby , since he had to flee for his life for political reasons when she was only 4 months old.
Now more than 1 YEAR later Immigration has been delaying their part of the paperwork and they refuse to acknowledge that as a problem, that should urge them to not go on at a slow pace or at least say they are truly sorry : even they admit to overstepping time limits , when our good friend and collegue (to Lars Skov Krøgholt ) from Syria telephones them together with Lars Krøgholt doing the talking.
According to the political editor Henrik Hoffmann- Hansen at Kr. Dagblad ( Christian Daily Newspaper) to British Journalist Lizzie Dearden :" THAT THEY (refugees in Dk) GET THEIR FAMILIES UP HERE TO BE TOGETHER WITH THEM RIGHT AWAY IS A LIE and perhaps it is impossible in Denmark????
Kind Regards Lars Skov Krøgholt and Daniela Skov.
Dear Lizzie Dearden.
We would like to thank you for bringing up critical questions to the Danish government's politics towards refugees. "British journalist wondering : "Does Denmark really spend the second largest amount of money on refugees?" ".
Today it has been brought to attention in the news media that the numbers you were told about in the interview with HENRIK Hoffmann Hansen at Kristeligt Dagblad, were manipulated. The statistics were misrepresented and Henrik Hoffmann-Hansen could not have known that either.
Kind Regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt
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Er Danmark sikret med livstidsforsikring og garanti for AT VI ALDRIG bliver ramt af en Krig og mister vor " velfærd på den nære bane " (Dan Jørgensen ,Socialdemokratiets udtryk!) Er vi dem, vi kan takke for at vi har velfærd og dermed BERETTIGET til et velfærdssamfund DER IKKE BLIR FORANDRET????
De andre nationer langt væk er i krig og underlagt terror. Så det er alvorligt for mange af vore danske ministre, DESVÆRRE!!, at mennesker med den slags baggrund kommer herop - KAN DE DA IKKE FORSTÅ, VI IKKE ØNSKER DET FOR DE TRUER VOR VELFÆRD " på den nære bane!" Det har taget os 140 år at opbygge velfærdssamfundet, den VELFÆRD, som vi besidder i dag.
Vi vil ikke blive destrueret i en krig, synes at være den faste sandhed og det politiske perspektiv – det trossystem, som Danmark regeres ud fra. De historieløse som BL. A. en jødisk rabbiner, smitter udlandets aviser og opinion og giver DANMARK ET DÅRLIGT RY! Sådan hedder det sig.
Når der er ministerrokade i regeringen, som der var adskillige gange under den foregående regering af forskellige årsager, får den pgl. minister så en livslang pension med sig fra sin relativt korte tid i et ministerielt lederskab??? Får en minister så mere end én pension sikret som sin fremtids tryghed, P.G.A. velfærdssamfundet vi må kæmpe for, som om det er et slag på liv og død! skal man forstå vor fhv. Forsvarsminister Nikolaj Wammen.
Han var i Kolding ved støtte- og sympatitilkendegivelsen for Charlie Hebdo foran Rådhuset, og det betød virkelig meget for mig, som en fra hærens family at forsvarsminister Nikolaj Wammen gav mig hånden, og at vor Forsvarsminister anerkendte med ord, og takkede for det, vi bidrager med i den globale krig mod terror...!
Nu er den store ALVORLIGE SITUATION DANMARK står i, at velfærden er truet. Det er vigtigst at "den nære velfærd bliver bevaret!" "Det har taget 140 år at bygge velfærdssamfundet op, det velfærdssamfund vi har nu.....!"
CITAT Dan Jørgensen , Socialdemokratiet !!!
Det lyder som, at vi skal bevare velfærden inden for vort revir‼
Sørgeligt nok er end ikke mænd som Nikolaj Wammen eller Dan Jørgensen blege for at tage æren for Danmarks velfærdssamfund. Den indstilling de gir udtryk for, er, at vi med vort samfund, er berettigede til at have de goder.
Socialdemokratiet ...!
Har Socialdemokratiet glemt at Danmark var besat af Nazi Tyskland for mindre end 100 ÅR siden?
Hvor er taknemmeligheden over, at vi har haft fred inden for Danmarks grænser i vel 70 år?
Vi har så meget at give videre til de, der ikke er FØDT i nationen Danmark, der har så lang fredstid INDE i Riget. Ingen politiker har selv VALGT at blive født i Danmark eller for den sags skyld noget som helst andet sted.
Alligevel taler mange ud af BERETTIGELSE.
Alle de, der ikke tilnærmelsesvis oplever fred og frihed og kan føre sig frem, som var de BERETTIGET til velfærd, de er blot FØDT eller bosat i nationer med ringe eller ingen politisk stabilitet.
Politisk stabilitet er ikke vores retmæssige krav til livet, og politikerne er ikke mere berettiget til VELFÆRD end mennesker udefra. Mennesker fra nationer der lider allermest under globale problemer som Klodens globale opvarmning, valg der fremmer økonomisk egennytte, vi vestlige regeringer og handel ud i nationerne har med i bagagen, våbensalg fra vestlige demokratier til de forkerte GENNEM ÅR OG DAG, og jøder har en smertefuld historie på grund af Nazi Tysklands krigsførelse – en historie, som også deles med ikke-jødiske danskere. Ikke desto mindre er vi tvunget til at lytte til Dansk Folkepartis politikere og fra regeringspartiet Jakob Ellemann-Jensen med sådan en mangel på visdom. De har sørgeligt nok intet ønske om at være ydmyge over for mennesker, som gennemgik helvede i Kz-interneringslejrene.
DF og Jakob Ellemann-Jensen laver højtravende proklamationer om at disse ”Mennesker uden kendskab til historien! ” kommer med falske påstande imod det retfærdige krav på vores velfærdssystems status quo. DF’s og Venstres og Socialdemokraternes ledere vender med overlæg det døve øre til advarslerne og de minder, de altid vil bære med fra det nazistiske-helvede-på-jorden.
Kampen for bevarelse af vores VELFÆRD på vort revir – er nødvendig, og det kræver nødvendige ofre, inklusive tunge valg. Tag ikke fejl: ”Det er bestemt ikke underholdende”.
Mvh Daniela Skov
… Det er som omkvædet på en sang, som kværner derudad ”I Want It All! And I Want It Now!” Vi er BERETTIGEDE!
Britisk journalist undres: Bruger Danmark virkelig næstflest penge på flygtninge i EU?
Af Henrik Hoffmann-Hansen, Politisk redaktør
27. januar 2016 20:15
En lang række internationale medier har de seneste dage udstillet Danmark for at føre en umenneskelig flygtningepolitik med den nye asyllov, som et stort flertal i Folketinget vedtog i tirsdags. Foto: Sara Gangsted / Scanpix Denmark
For at være ærlig kendte jeg ikke de tal. De er interessante, men det er ikke nogen, jeg har set gengivet nogle steder
Lizzie Dearden, britisk journalist
Den internationale presse har givet Danmark det glatte lag, efter at Folketinget i tirsdags vedtog den såkaldte smykkelov, der strammer reglerne for asylsøgere. Britisk journalist indrømmer, at nazi-parallellen er yderligtgående
En lang række internationale medier har de seneste dage udstillet Danmark for at føre en umenneskelig flygtningepolitik med den nye asyllov, som et stort flertal i Folketinget vedtog i tirsdags.
Især de britiske medier har skarpvinklet kritikken af Danmark. I avisen The Guardian bringes en karikaturtegning af statsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen (V) som Hitler og en taleboble, hvori han siger, at det er ”stødende at sammenligne os med nazisterne”, omgivet af danske industrisymboler for Lego, Carlsberg og en gris.
The Independent har på sin hjemmeside en tegning af Den Lille Havfrue iført en perlekæde og pengesedler og holdende en knibtang med en guldtand. En tavle med inskriptionen fra den amerikanske frihedsstatue forkynder ”Giv mig dine trætte, dine fattige.. etc.” med en ny afslutning om, at så ”vil jeg stjæle deres punge, deres juveler, guldtænder og mere til.”
I mange artikler bliver der også refereret til nazistisk lovgivning. Danmark fremstilles som yderst modvillig over for flygtninge, og der citeres flittigt kritik fra FN, menneskerettighedsorganisationer og Enhedslisten herhjemme. Repræsentanter for regeringen og Dansk Folkeparti kommer dog også til orde.
På The Independents hjemmeside henvises der til den danske lov under overskriften ”Danmark vedtager 'nazi-agtig lov', som tvinger flygtninge til at aflevere deres kontanter og værdier.”
Artiklen er skrevet af Lizzie Dearden, som her svarer på spørgsmål om avisens dækning af den nye danske lov.
I The Independent bliver den nye danske asyllov præsenteret som en ”nazi-agtig lov”. Er det en dækkende måde at karakterisere loven på?
”Jeg tror, udtrykket stammer fra en rabbiner, der brugte det i en israelsk avis. Han sagde, at loven var sammenlignelig med de love, der blev vedtaget i Tyskland i forbindelse med holocaust. På de sociale medier har mange mennesker brugt den samme parallel, men jeg skal indrømme, at nogle af deltagerne på de medier kommer langt ud i de kommentarer, de skriver. Det dog ser ud til at være en ret almindelig kommentar,” siger Lizzie Dearden.
En del danskere føler, at den danske lovgivning er et temmelig langt stykke fra nazisternes lovgivning.
”Ja, og vi har også refereret den danske regerings synspunkter om, at det ikke er i nærheden af det, og at loven er blevet misforstået. Samt at de nye regler ligger helt på linje med de regler, der gælder for velfærdsydelser til danskere. Men for englændere er det en mærkelig lov, vores grænsesystem er meget anderledes, og jeg tror ikke, at man ville se noget lignende i Storbritannien.”
Ifølge Den Internationale valutafond, IMF, brugte Danmark sidste år omkring 0,47 procent af sit bruttonationalprodukt på flygtninge, mens for eksempel Storbritannien brugte 0,02 procent på flygtninge. Dermed bruger Danmark næstflest penge pr. indbygger i EU på flygtninge. Ville det være fair at nævne den slags oplysninger i jeres dækning af dansk flygtningepolitik eller er det irrelevant?
”For at være ærlig kendte jeg ikke de tal. De er interessante, men det er ikke nogen, jeg har set gengivet nogle steder. Ja, det ville være godt at nævne, og det ville sætte debatten i perspektiv. The Independent er et uafhængigt medie, men på det sociale område er vi en anelse til venstre for midten, og vi har ført kampagner for, at regeringen skulle gøre mere for at byde flygtninge velkommen her i landet. Det gælder ikke kun andre europæiske lande.”
Du skrev, at flygtninge skal vente tre år på at blive familiesammenført med deres familiemedlemmer, men det gælder kun for flygtninge, som har fået midlertidigt ophold, fordi de kommer fra krigszoner. Omkring 80 procent af alle flygtninge i Danmark får asyl som konventionsflygtninge, og de kan få deres familier hertil med det samme. Er det en information, dine læsere burde have haft?
”Ja, det er meget nyttigt, men det er i hvert fald ikke noget, der er blevet nævnt i rapporterne fra UNHCR, og heller ingen af de andre organisationer, som har kommenteret det, har nævnt det. Så nej, det er ikke noget, vi har været opmærksomme på, men det er da noget, jeg vil tage med i fremtidige artikler om sagen,” siger den britiske journalist.
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
Sent to Journalist from Britain, Lizzie Dearden :
British journalist wondering : "Does Denmark really spend the second highest amount of money on refugees?"
Britisk journalist undres: Bruger Danmark virkelig næstflest penge på flygtninge i EU? | Kristeligt Dagblad
Yes, it is a gross lie and seemingly as a propaganda rhetoric’s - unintentionally I dare say, on the Newspapers part!!!?! telling such undocumented allegation to reader's faces.
People suffer immensely and for such length of time missing their loved ones and grieving that their families are stuck in the war zone. The little children cannot understand why their dad is gone missing!!!
And a small child never really knows her dad nearby , since he had to flee for his life for political reasons when she was only 4 months old.
Now more than 1 YEAR later Immigration has been delaying their part of the paperwork and they refuse to acknowledge that as a problem, that should urge them to not go on at a slow pace or at least say they are truly sorry : even they admit to overstepping time limits , when our good friend and collegue (to Lars Skov Krøgholt ) from Syria telephones them together with Lars Krøgholt doing the talking.
According to the political editor Henrik Hoffmann- Hansen at Kr. Dagblad ( Christian Daily Newspaper) to British Journalist Lizzie Dearden :" THAT THEY (refugees in Dk) GET THEIR FAMILIES UP HERE TO BE TOGETHER WITH THEM RIGHT AWAY IS A LIE and perhaps it is impossible in Denmark????
Kind Regards Lars Skov Krøgholt and Daniela Skov.
Dear Lizzie Dearden.
We would like to thank you for bringing up critical questions to the Danish government's politics towards refugees. "British journalist wondering: "Does Denmark really spend the second largest amount of money on refugees?" ".
Today it has been brought to attention in the news media that the numbers you were told about in the interview with HENRIK Hoffmann Hansen at Kristeligt Dagblad, were manipulated. The statistics were misrepresented and Henrik Hoffmann-Hansen could not have known that either.
Kind Regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt
Does Denmark have a lifetime insurance and guarantee, that WE WILL NEVER be struck by war and thus loose our ”welfare within our own territory?
Socialdemocrat Dan Jørgensen's BIG concern is for Denmark to secure our territory in order not to lose our welfare.
Are we the ones to take full credit for our welfare nationally, and thereby ENTITLED to a welfare society that will never have to undergo changes?????
The other Nations far from us are at war as well as assigned to insurgence from terror groups. Then it is seriously problematic for quite many of our Danish Ministers at Christiansborg, I am sorry to say , that people with that particular background (war etc.) come up here - DON'T THEY GET IT- WE DO NOT WANT FOR THEM TO COME- SINCE THEY PRESENT A RISK TO OUR WELLFARE - within our territory. It has taken 140 years to build the welfare society , the WELLFARE we are in possession of today.
We will not be destroyed by war seems to be the firm truth and political perspective- the belief system which Denmark is ruled from.
The ones in lack of insight into historical facts, such as a Jewish Rabbi - they are inspiring the international news media infectiously and the international opinion with a bad reputation on Denmark. So the story goes.
When Denmark has a move about of Ministers in Governmental Offices , which did occur several times and for various reasons during our former Government's structure, does the Minister concerned receive a lifelong pension from this relatively short period in Office of a Minister here?
Does a Minister in a Governmental Office receive more than one pension secured as her or his secured future??? A guarantee because of Legislative ruling in our welfare society ?
A welfare society we must fight for seemingly as a battle of life and death in the rhetoric’s of our former Minister of Defense, Nikolaj Wammen.
Nikolaj Wammen was in Kolding at the meeting in front of our Town Council in support of Charlie Hebdo. It meant so much to me as one in Army Families that he, our Minister of Defense shook hands with me acknowledging in words and thanked for what ,what we contribute in Global War on Terror!"
Now the immensely. SERIOUS SITUATION WE DENMARK is faced with is the ongoing threat to our welfare!
The major concern is to protect by all means, our now welfare (standard of Living) within our territory!
Sadly, men neither such as Nikolaj Wammen or such as Dan Jørgensen restrain themselves from taking credit for the Danish welfare society. The attitude they express is that of entitlement.
Socialdemocratic Party...!
Have you forgotten that Denmark was occupied by Nazi Germany LESS than 100 years ago?
Where is the gratitude that we are a nation with peace from war INSIDE our boarders now for 70 YEARS?
We have so much to CONTRIBUTE to those who are not BORN in the nation of Denmark, with such lengths of peace INSIDE the Kingdom.
No politician has chosen for himself or herself to be BORN in Denmark or anywhere else for that matter. Nevertheless, many are speaking from a position of ENTITLEMENT!
EVERYONE else, who do not come close to experiencing peace and freedom and are not able to conduct themselves in a demanding way, as if they were ENTITLED to rich welfare, they were born or they grew up in Nations with hardly any or absence of political stability.
Political stability is just as little for us to demand of life and politicians are no more ENTITLED to Rich WELFARE than people from outside of Denmark.
People from Nations suffering to the utmost due to global problems as the Global Warming of our entire planet, Choices made by Governments in western societies that mostly sees what is financially profitable to ourselves in Trade matters, WEAPONS sold to the worst kind of Governments in the Nations for years, and Jews have a painful history because of Nazi insurgence - a history shared by non- Jewish Danes as well.
Nevertheless, we are forced to listen to Danish Folkeparti politicians and from our government party Jakob Ellemann-Jensen with such lack of wisdom and sadly no desire to be humble towards people, who went through hell in KZ internment camps.
DF or Jakob Ellemann-Jensen make lofty proclamations THAT those "People with no knowledge of history!" make false allegations towards the RIGHTFUL CLAIM for OUR WELLFARE SYSTEM's STATUS QUO!
DF, Venstre, and Socialdemocratic leaders are deliberately turning a deaf ear to the warnings and the memories they carry always from Nazi -hell -on -earth.
The battle for the preservation of our WELLFARE on our territory - is necessary and it demands NECESSARY sacrifices, including tough choices . Do not be mistaken: " It is definitely not amusing !"
Kind Regards Daniela Skov
It is like an ongoing chorus of a song “I Want It All! And I Want It Now!” We are ENTITLED!
Article from the Christian Newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad.
British journalist marvels: Is Denmark really using the second most money on refugees in the EU?
By Henrik Hoffmann-Hansen, Political Editor
27. January 2016 20:15
A wide range of international media in recent days have exhibited Denmark to lead an inhumane refugee policy with the new asylum law, which a large majority in the Folketing adopted on Tuesday.
To be honest I did not know these figures. They are interesting, but I have not seen them reproduced anywhere.
Lizzie Dearden, British journalist
The international press has given Denmark a reprimand, after the Danish Parliament on Tuesday adopted the so-called jeweler act, which tightens the rules for asylum seekers. British journalist admits that Nazi parallels are extreme.
A wide range of international media in recent days have exhibited Denmark to lead an inhumane refugee policy with the new asylum law, which a large majority in the Folketing adopted on Tuesday.
In particular, the British media have been sharp in their criticism of Denmark. In the newspaper The Guardian portrayed a cartoon of prime minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen (V) as Hitler and a speech bubble, in which he says that it is "offensive to compare us with the Nazis", surrounded by Danish industrial symbols for Lego, Carlsberg and a pig.
The Independent's website shows a drawing of the Little Mermaid wearing a pearl necklace and banknotes. She is entertaining a pincers with a gold tooth. A tablet with the inscription from the American statue of liberty proclaiming "Give me your tired, your poor ... etc. "with a new conclusion that then "I will steal their purses, their jewels, gold teeth and more. "
In many articles are also referred to Nazi legislation. Denmark is produced as extremely reluctant towards refugees, and they are quoting extensively criticism from the UNITED NATIONS, human rights organizations and the political party “Enhedslisten” at home (in Denmark). Representatives of the Government and the Danish Folk Party, however, also give voice to their opinions.
At The Independent's website, reference is made to the Danish law presented as : "Denmark adopts ' nazi-esque law ', which is forcing refugees to surrender their cash and valuables."
The article is written by Journalist Lizzie Dearden, who answers questions about the newspaper's coverage of the new Danish law.
In The Independent, the new Danish Act on asylum is presented as a "nazi-esque law". It is a substantial covering of this particular law.
"I think the term originates from a Rabbi, who used it in an Israeli newspaper. He said that the law was comparable to the laws that were passed in Germany in connection with the holocaust. On the social media, many people have used the same parallel, but I must admit that some of the participants at the media are taking their comments to an extensive length. However, it looks to be a fairly common comment, "says Lizzie Dearden.
Several Danes feel that the Danish legislation is a pretty far cry from Nazi legislation.
"Yes, and we have also referenced the Danish Government's views on the fact that it is not even come close. That the law has been misinterpreted. As well as that the new rules are fully in line with the rules applying for welfare services to the Danes. However, for the British, it is a strange law, our border system is very different, and I do not think that you would see anything of similarity in Great Britain. "
According to the International Monetary Fund, IMF, Denmark last year used about 0.47 percent of its gross domestic product on refugees, while for example Great Britain used 0.02 percent on refugees. Thus, Denmark uses second most money per capita in the EU on refugees. It would be fair to mention that kind of information in your coverage of Danish refugee policy or is it irrelevant?
"To be honest I did not know those figures. They are interesting, but I have not seen them reproduced anywhere. Yes, it would be good to mention, and it would put the debate into perspective. The Independent is an independent media, but in the social sphere, we are slightly to the left of Center, and we have led campaigns that the Government should do more to welcome refugees in this country. This applies not only to other European countries. "
You wrote that the refugees must wait three years to be family -reunified with their family members, but it applies only to refugees who have been granted temporary residency, because they come from war zones. About 80 percent of all refugees in Denmark get asylum as Convention refugees, and they can have their families come here immediately! Is it an information, your readers should have had?
"Yes, it is very useful, but it is certainly not something that has been mentioned in the reports from UNHCR, and also none of the other organizations which have commented on it. So no, it's not something we've been aware of, but it is something I will take in future articles about the case," says the British journalist.
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