30-03-2016

Deres Majestæt!

Your Holiness Pope Francis

Kære Kirkeminister Bertel Haarder

Kære Statsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen

Kære Justitsminister Søren Pind

Kære Finansminister Claus Hjort Frederiksen

Kære Det Mosaiske Troessamfund

Kære Det Islamiske Trossamfund

Kære Dansk Ateistisk Samfund

Kære Biskopper, provster og præster

Kære Dansk Oase

Kære Frikirkenet

Kære Danske Medier

Dear Media abroad

YDERST PROVOKERENDE!! Ved døbefonten cementerer mange præster, at budskabet om rummeligheden i folkekirken er er en stor løgn. Det nye døbte medlem bliver budt velkommen ind i kirken, i Guds familie. Den netop overståede dåb er adgangsbevis ind i kirken, at nu er det menneske budt velkommen. Det er en hjemmehæklet teologi, altså lære OM Gud. Jesus sagde hele tiden ”Kom til mig, kom til mig”. Det sagde han til børn, det sagde han til alle som er trætte og tyngede af byrder! Og han sagde: ”Den som kommer til mig vil jeg aldrig støde bort”.

Jesus er rummelig. Kirken har lavet sin egen lære, baseret på en barnedåb, der giver penge til præsters løn og kun har rummelighed til at sige velkommen ind i fællesskabet til dem, som lader sig døbe. Det er modbydelig manipulation. Det er totalt i modstrid med evangeliet og Jesus Kristus. Der er jo bare ren og skær forretning. Dansk Ateistisk Samfund gør opmærksom på dette; på bussen i Aarhus står der ”Hvorfor koster tro noget? Tænk selv”.

Artikel i Kristeligt Dagblad 30-03-2016

http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/kirke-tro/ateister-lancerer-stor-kampagne-mod-folkekirken

Ateister lancerer stor kampagne mod folkekirken.

AF JOHANNES HENRIKSEN OG SIMON MUFF ENEVOLDSEN

29. marts 2016 16:00

"Vi har intet, vi vil sælge, og folk behøver ikke blive medlemmer af Ateistisk Selskab. Vi vil blot gøre opmærksom på, at det, der bliver solgt i folkekirken, ikke er det rigtige," siger Anders Stjernholm om den nye buskampagne. Foto: Ateistisk Selskab

Med busreklamer og videokampagne på sociale medier vil Ateistisk Selskab få danskerne til at melde sig ud af folkekirken. Selvom ateister ofte får meget presseomtale, er det tvivlsomt, om det får stor effekt, vurderer forsker

”Fortvivl ikke. Hvis du ved, hvor du bor og kan huske dit CPR-nummer og har lige præcis nul kroner, så kan du melde dig ud af folkekirken.”

Sådan lyder det enkle budskab fra komiker og talsmand for Ateistisk Selskab Anders Stjernholm i videoen til en ny kampagne, hvor foreningen opfordrer folk til at melde sig ud af folkekirken.

Læs også: Anders Stjernholm: Ateismens kedelige budskab leder til nye indsigter

Kampagnen, som også kan ses på de aarhusianske bybusser i de næste 14 dage, forsøger ifølge Anders Stjernholm at nå ud til både den faste kirkegænger og tvivleren. Har man en stærk og personlig tro, opfordres man til at være mere kritisk over for den, mens mennesker, der ikke tror, men stadig er medlemmer af folkekirken, ganske enkelt opfordres til at melde sig ud.

”Desværre ser det ud til, at folk ikke selv gør sig de nødvendige overvejelse. Vi har intet, vi vil sælge, og folk behøver ikke blive medlemmer af Ateistisk Selskab. Vi vil blot gøre opmærksom på, at det, der bliver solgt i folkekirken, ikke er det rigtige. Der er behov for et modpres, og det vil vi stå for ved disse kampagner,” siger

Meget oplysende artikel fra National Geographic

http://natgeo.dk/vand-gennem-tiderne-0

Vand gennem tiderne.

"...Vandet renser ikke kun snavset af vores krop, men renser også i overført betydning smudset af vores sjæl og er som sådan en vigtig ingrediens i mange renselsesritualer. I den kristne kirke er dåben det ritual, hvormed en persons synder “vaskes” bort, og han eller hun indlemmes i den kristne menighed. Dåbsritualet har sit forbillede i Johannes Døberen, som døbte Jesus i Jordan-floden – og Jesus omtaler selv nødvendigheden af dåb for at komme i Guds rige, hvorfor kristne regner den for essentiel til at opnå frelsen. Frem til 1854 var man i øvrigt kun arve­berettiget i Danmark, hvis man var døbt.

Faktisk er vand-øsning ikke et oprindeligt kristent ritual. I det før-kristne Norden dryppede man også vand på barnet ved navngivningen. Ritualet, der var forbundet med Odin-kulten, optog barnet som et fuldgyldigt og retsbeskyttet medlem af slægt og samfund..."

Muslimer foretager en rituel afvaskning i vand af ansigt hænder samt hoved og fødder, før de daglige tidebønner afholdes – en renselse, der er en vigtig forudsætning for at udføre tidebønnen korrekt. “Renselse er det halve af troen,” sagde profeten Muhammed. Rituel afvaskning af en afdød, før han eller hun iføres ligklæder, er en anden vigtig forberedelse af sjælen i islam – et ritual, som også jøder praktiserer.

Et kar med indviet vand står ved tærsklen til katolske kirker. Den, der træder ind i Guds hus, dypper fingerspidserne i vandet og slår korsets tegn som et udtryk for længslen efter hjertets renhed. Vievandet symboliserer dermed dåben. Det bruges desuden til at indvie kirker,­ klokker, vielsesringe og andre genstande. I den græsk-ortodokse kirke får fiskerne­ velsignet deres både med helligt vand af præsten den 6. januar – den dag, hvor man mener, at Jesus blev døbt i Jordan-floden. Vievand bruges også til beskyttelse mod mørkets magter og indgår i djævleuddrivelser (eksorcisme). Vandet må ikke smides ud i det normale kloak­system, og kirkerne har derfor typisk et særligt bassin, der leder direkte ned i jorden for at tømme det på behørig vis.

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http://natgeo.dk/folk-og-kultur/religion/det-hellige-vand

Det hellige vand.

vand

"Fra dråberne i døbefonten til ligbrænding ved hellige floder – vand er ladet med religiøs symbolik, der fylder hele vores liv med mening."

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JA, Danske Ateister opfordrer folk til at reflektere over og forholde sig til det medlemskab. Hvor mange slags og hvilke organisationer og foreninger går vi bare bevidstløse ind i.

Folkekirken bliver man medlemmer af ved barnedåben. Det er det, de profilerer sig selv på og skaber økonomisk mulighed for at bestå på som aflønnede biskopper, provster og præster. Ikke en uvæsentlig grund for dem, at få døbt børn i Danmark. Selv- opretholdelse. VEDLIGEholdelse.

Det er ikke en sag på liv og død at være medlem og blive medlem fra baby-alder. Det er ikke sandhed, at det er fra Gud, at små børn skal døbes. Begrundelsen leverer de selv ved døbefonten, når præsten byder det lille nydøbte barn VELKOMMEN I KIRKEN- I FÆLLESSKABET DER. MEN hvad så de børn, der ikke bliver døbt som små? Er de så UVELKOMNE DYBEST SET. Hvis forældre af én eller anden årsag ikke døber deres små, ER de forældre så SKYLD I at deres barn ER UVELKOMMENT I KIRKENS FÆLLESSKAB IFØLGE GUD???? HVOR STÅR DET I BIBELEN?

Jesus selv tog børnene i sine arme og han FORBØD PÅ DET STRENGESTE SINE DISCIPLE AT HINDRE SMÅ BØRN I AT KOMME TIL HAM. Jesus havde ikke en dåbs- relateret -prædiken -eller -undervisning overhovedet tilknyttet hans kærlighed til og værdsættelse af børn.

Det er GODT AT ANDERS STJERNHOLM OG DANSKE ATEISTER FØRER KAMPAGNE MOD LØGN. DE TALER SANDT, NÅR DE SIGER, AT FOLKEKIRKEN IKKE ER DET, DEN GIR SIG UD FOR.

YDERST PROVOKERENDE!! Ved døbefonten cementerer mange præster, at budskabet om rummeligheden i folkekirken er er en stor løgn. Det nye døbte medlem bliver budt velkommen ind i kirken, i Guds familie. Den netop overståede dåb er adgangsbevis ind i kirken, at nu er det menneske budt velkommen. Det er en hjemmehæklet teologi, altså lære OM Gud. Jesus sagde hele tiden ”Kom til mig, kom til mig”. Det sagde han til børn, det sagde han til alle som er trætte og tyngede af byrder! Og han sagde: ”Den som kommer til mig vil jeg aldrig støde bort”.

Jesus er rummelig. Kirken har lavet sin egen lære, baseret på en barnedåb, der giver penge til præsters løn og kun har rummelighed til at sige velkommen ind i fællesskabet til dem, som lader sig døbe. Det er modbydelig manipulation. Det er totalt i modstrid med evangeliet og Jesus Kristus. Der er jo bare ren og skær forretning. Dansk Ateistisk Samfund gør opmærksom på dette; på bussen i Aarhus står der ”Hvorfor koster tro noget? Tænk selv”.

Kære Kirkeminister Bertel Haarder, Statsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Justitsminister Søren Pind og Finansminister Claus Hjort Frederiksen.

1. Hvordan kan I forsvare, at staten kræver skat fra borgere til kirken?

2. Hvordan kan staten forsvare at financiere statskirken, når læren omkring dåb, som udløser penge, er bygget på løgn og manipulation?

ENGLISH TRANSLATION

HIGHLY PROVOCATIVE!!!!! While standing at the baptismal font many pastors underscores, that the message of broadness in the State Church is one BIG lie. The new baptized member is welcomed into the Church, into the family of God. This newly done with baptism is access proof into the Church, now this human being is welcomed. It is a home chrochet theology, socalled teaching ABOUT god.

Jesus himself constantly said: "Come to Me. Come to Me!" He said this to children, He said this to "all you who are tired and weary from carrying heavy burdens!" and He said: "You that comes to Me, I will never cast away!"

Jesus is BROADNESS. Church has made up its own teaching, based on a baptism of children, that renders money to Pastors wages as well as only allow broadness to wellcome into the Church fellowship those who let themselves baptize. It is an apaling manipulation.

It is utter contrast to the Gospel and to Jesus Christ.

It is sheer business. Danish Atheists Society draws attention to this; at the buses in Aarhus they say:" Why does Faith cost anything? Think for yourself!"

Article in the newspaper "Kristeligt Dagblad" 30-03-2016

Atheists launching a huge campaign against The State Church.

We have nothing, that we wish to sell, and people do not have to become members of Atheistic Society. We just want to bring attention to, what is being sold in the State Church, is not the real thing." Anders Stjernholm says about the new bus campaign.

With bus advertisements and video campaigns on social medias Atheists Society will bring the Danes to sign out from State Church membership. Even the Atheists often receive lots of media attention, it is doubtful, it will gain much effect, researcher assesses.

"Do not despair. If you know, where you live and you are able to remember your Social Security Number and you are in the possession of exactly 0 Danish Kroner, then you can sign off your membership of The State Church."

That is the simple message from comedian and spokesman for Atheists Society Anders Stjernholm in the video from a new campaign, where the Society challenges people to withdrawing their membership of the State Church.

The campaign, which also can be seen on the Aarhus urban busses for the next 2 weeks, is aimed to reach both the steadfastly churchgoer and the doubter, according to Anders Stjernholm. If you have a strong and personal faith, you are challenged to be more critical of your conviction, while people, who are not believers, but still members of the State Church, simply are being challenged to resign themselves.

" Unfortunately it seems as if people do not take the considerations that are necessary. We have nothing, we are trying to sell, and people do not have to become members of Atheists' Society. We just want to bring awareness to That Shaped is sold in the State Church, is not right. There is a need for a counteract pressure, and that is what we will stand for through these campaigns, "

VERY INFORMATIVE ARTICLE FROM NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC:

Water throughout the ages.

"...Water does not only clean the dirt off our bodies, but it cleanses figuratively as well the dirt off from our soul and is as such an important ingredient in many cleansing rituals. In the Christian church baptism is the ritual, that "washes" away the sins of a person, and he or she is incorporated into the Christian congregation. The Baptism ritual models from John the Baptist, who baptized Jesus in the Jordan River - and Jesus himself mentions the necessity of baptism for the coming kingdom of God, why Christians expect it to be essential to achieve salvation.

‼Until 1854, citizen only had HEREDITARY RIGHTS justified in Denmark, IF you were baptized.‼

In fact, sprinkling of water on a child’s head was not originally a Christian ritual. In the pre-Christian Scandinavia water was being sprinkled also on the child's head for the naming.

‼The ritual that was associated with Odin cult, included the child as a full-fledged and legally protected member of the family and society ... "

http://natgeo.dk/vand-gennem-tiderne-0

http://natgeo.dk/folk-og-kultur/religion/det-hellige-vand

The holy water

Water

" "From the drops in the baptismal font to cremation at the sacred rivers - water is loaded with religious symbolism, filling our lives with meaning."

http://natgeo.dk/folk-og-kultur/religion/det-hellige-vand

http://natgeo.dk/vand-gennem-tiderne-0

Muslims perform a ritual washing in water of the face and hands and head and feet before the daily prayers are held - a cleansing, which is an important prerequisite for performing the prayer correctly. "Purification is half of the faith," said the Prophet Muhammad. Ritual washing of the dead before he or she is clothed in shrouds, is another important preparation for the soul of Islam - ‼‼‼ a ritual which also Jews are practising.

A vessel with holy water stands at the threshold of Catholic churches. Whoever enters the house of God, dip your fingertips into the water and perform the sign of the cross as an expression of the longing for purity of heart. Thus Holy water symbolizes baptism. It is also used to inaugurate churches, bells, wedding rings and other objects. In the Greek Orthodox Church, the fishermen blessed their boats with holy water by the priest on January 6 - the day when it is believed that Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River. Holy water is also used for protection against the powers of darkness and included in exorcism. The water should not be disposed of in the normal sewage system, and the churches have therefore typically a special pool that leads directly into the ground to empty it properly."

Yes, Danish Atheists challenges people to reflect to and relate to that particular membership. How many kinds and which kinds of organisations and societies do we just join ourselves to unconsciously? The State Church we get membership of at child baptism. That is how they profile themselves, and they create financial opportunity to sustain themselves as paid Bishops, deans and pastors. That provides an essential reason to them, to have children baptized in Denmark. SELF -preservation. Maintenance.

Becoming a member as a baby and being a member as a baby are not life or death matters. There is no truth proving that it is God who wants babies to become baptized.

The reason for baptizing babies is delivered by the Church pastors themselves at the baptismal font ‼, when the pastor WELCOMES the little newly baptized baby INTO THE CHURCH AND INTO THE FELLOWSHIP.

BUT what about the children then who are not baptized as babies for various reasons? ‼‼‼

ARE THEY NOT WELCOME AT SAME LEVEL THEN ? If parents for one or another reason choose not to baptize their children at an early age.

ARE those parents then GUILTY OF their child NOT BEING WELCOME IN THE CHURCH FELLOWSHIP ACCORDING TO GOD???? WHERE DOES THE BIBLE SAY THIS?

Jesus himself took children in his arms and he STRICTLY FORBID HIS DISCIPLES HINDERING LITTLE CHILDREN TO COME TO HIM.

Jesus had no baptism related sermon or teaching at all connected to his love and appreciation of children.

It is good that Anders Stjernholm and Danish Atheists' is launching a campaign against lies. They speak the truth, when they say, that The State Church is not, what it appears and PROFILES itself to be.

HIGHLY PROVOCATIVE!!!!! While standing at the baptismal font many pastors underscores, that the message of broadness in the State Church is one BIG lie. The new baptized member is welcomed into the Church, into the family of God. This newly done with baptism is access proof into the Church, now this human being is welcomed. It is a home chrochet theology, socalled teaching ABOUT god.

Jesus himself constantly said: "Come to Me. Come to Me!" He said this to children, He said this to "all you who are tired and weary from carrying heavy burdens!" and He said: "You that comes to Me, I will never cast away!"

Jesus is BROADNESS. Church has made up its own teaching, based on a baptism of children, that renders money to Pastors wages as well as only allow broadness to wellcome into the Church fellowship those who let themselves baptize. It is an apaling manipulation.

It is utter contrast to the Gospel and to Jesus Christ.

It is sheer business. Danish Atheists Society draws attention to this; at the buses in Aarhus they say:" Why does Faith cost anything? Think for yourself!"

Dear Minister of Church Bertel Haarder, Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Minister of Justice Søren Pind and Minister of Finances Claus Hjort Frederiksen,

1. How can you allow the State demanding taxes from citizens in Denmark to the Church?

2. In what way can the Danish Government legitimize financing the State Church, when the teaching around baptism is built on lies and manipulation?

Regards, Daniela Skov and Lars S. Krøgholt.