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Kære Kirkeminister Bertel Haarder
Kære Borgmester Thomas Kastrup-Larsen og byrådet i Aalborg, Aalborg Stift
Kære Borgmester H.C Østerby og byrådet i Holstebro
Kære Borgmester Mads Jakobsen og byrådet i Struer
Kære Borgmester Torsten Nielsen og byrådet i Viborg, Viborg Stift
Kære Borgmester HP Geil og byrådet i Haderslev, Haderslev Stift
Kære Borgmester Jacob Bundsgaard og byrådet i Aarhus, Aarhus Stift
Kære Borgmester Johnny Søtrup og byrådet i Esbjerg, Ribe Stift
Kære Borgmester Anker Boye og byrådet i Odense
Kære Borgmester Joy Mogensen og byrådet i Roskilde
Kære Borgmester Holger Schou Rasmussen og byrådet i Lolland Kommune, Maribo Stift
Kære Overborgmester Frank Jensen og borgerrepræsentationen i København, Københavns Stift
Kære Borgmester Benedikte Kiær og byrådet i Helsingør, Helsingør Stift
Kære Biskop Henning Toft Bro, Aalborg
Kære Biskop i Viborg Henrik Stubkjær
Kære Provst Carsten Hoffman, Struer
Kære Biskop Henrik Wigh-Poulsen, Aarhus
Kære Biskop Elof Westergaard, Ribe
Kære Biskop Marianne Christiansen, Haderslev
Kære Biskop Tine Lindhardt, Odense
Kære Biskop Liselotte Rebel, Helsingør
Kære Biskop Peter Skov-Jakobsen, København
Kære Biskop Peter Fischer-Møller, Roskilde
Kære Biskop Steen Skovsgaard, Maribo
Kære VALGMENIGHEDs præst og Journalist Jesper Fodgaard, Aalborg
Kære Frikirkepræst Johannes Hansen, Apostolsk Kirke i Aalborg
Kære Tidligere Seniorpræster ved Kolding Kirke Center i Kolding Grete og Flemming Petterson
Kære Dansk Oase
Kære Frikirkenet
Dette er sendt til borgmestrene i alle Danmarks Stifter.
Den eneste biskop, som rakte ud mens vi oplevede rigtig dårlig behandling mod Jonas Serner-Pedersen og mod os selv, var Niels Henrik Ahrendt i Haderslev. Vi skrev til ham og til provst Frank Kjærgaard i Kolding, og de to svarede tilbage og var virkelig støttende. Valgmenighedspræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen var rigtig glad for at vi tog ham i forsvar.
Tænk, at det aldrig er faldet nogen af jer provster og biskopper for brystet, at sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen bruger politiet til at undgå at gøre et stykke administrativt arbejde, som han kunne have klaret på et kvarter. Og tænk, at ingen af jer provster og biskopper har ønsket at reagere og række ud til Jonas, sådan som vi direkte bad om medarbejderomsorg og -pleje for Jonas Serner-Pedersen, som var helt i krise, ude af balance efter at være blevet fyret fra Kolding Valgmenighed.
Han lavede en historie til politiet om, at han valgte at trække sig som præst. Han har sagt flere usandheder til politiet, som han er sluppet for at blive konfronteret med. Han er åbenbart ”mere lige for loven” end vi almindelige borgere er. Han BLEV fyret. Hvad han valgte at trække sig fra var en afstemning, der ellers var ved at blive sat i værk, for om han alligevel kunne blive genvalgt som menighedens præst, hvis der kunne rejses et flertal af menighedens medlemmer for at han skulle fortsætte.
I perioden inden afstemningen skulle finde sted besøgte Daniela og hendes nu afdøde veninde Mary Jonas, og de kom med morgenbrød. Jonas var så ked af det og havde det rigtig dårligt. Han skulle kontakte sin fagforening, mens de var der. Da Mary og Daniela skulle til at gå, bad han dem om at blive lidt længere hos ham! Han betroede Mary og Daniela, at der var en større del af menigheden, som ikke kunne lide ham. Det havde han det selvfølgelig ikke let med.
Hvorfor er vi ikke blevet hørt, når vi har bedt om medarbejderomsorg og -pleje til Jonas, som var i en svær tid?
På den ene side ville vi hjælpe og støtte Jonas Serner-Pedersen som vores tidligere præst, som vi opfattede som vores ven, og på den anden side ville vi fastholde ham i sit ansvar over for os som medmennesker og som tidligere menighedsmedlemmer, som ville have ham til at gøre et vigtigt stykke administrativt arbejde for os.
Til politiet fortalte han til afhøringsrapporten en historie om, at Daniela gav ham en omklamrende omsorg og henvendte sig en masse gange, og uudtalt var hans løsning den, som vi erfarede fra første færd, at han lukkede af og prøvede at holde os på afstand med total tavshed og ved at ignorere vores henvendelser.
I afhøringsrapporten sagde han, at da vi skrev, at vi ville komme til ham i Hjerm og tale med ham, "blev (han) fuldstændig bevidst om, at han ikke mere kunne nøjes med at ignorere og ikke selv kunne stoppe chikanen og derfor henvendte sig til herværende station for hjælp".
https://sites.google.com/site/ytrings/2015/februar/24-02-2015 Apple får et datacenter i Viborg, hvor Henrik Stubkjær er Jonas Serner-Pedersens biskop.
Vi er i en tid i vores samfund, hvor politiet er under lup, fordi de er blevet taget i løgn, og det er nu under undersøgelse på grund af Christiania og Tibet sagerne. Som borgere har vi brug for at kunne have tillid til politiet, ikke mindst til det politi, der er i vort nærområde. Vi er to borgere, der siden 19 sept. 2012 – altså i godt tre år, har været udsat for grov politiløgn og fratagelse af vores retssikkerhed i Danmark på grund af Midt- og Vestjyllands Politi i Holstebro og sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen, Hjerm. https://goo.gl/C81g3I. Midt og Vestjyllands politi har nægtet os partshøring som det sidste tiltag fra dem. Vi var i retten i Holstebro i 2103 og i det følgende er der en udskrift af dommen fra retten i Holstebro. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen gav mig Daniela Skov, Kolding et polititilhold i november 2012, dagen før det demokratiske menighedsrådsvalg i Danmark.
Jeg Lars Skov Krøgholt fik et polititilhold noget senere, og det eneste jeg ved og husker, er en opringning hvor en politibetjent siger, at Jonas ikke vil høre noget som helt om Daniela fra dig. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen har også skrevet og klaget til politiet over at jeg betroede ham sandheden - under tavshedsløfte, da han var præst i Kolding, at jeg mistede mit mangeårige faste arbejde hos Post Danmark fordi jeg fik voldsomt stress af den behandling jeg fik af præster i Kolding. Det har jeg papir på, så jeg kan ikke se, hvordan det kan være med til at Jonas som sognepræst i Hjerm pludselig kan bruge det til at få et tilhold på mig. Daniela fik posttraumatisk stress, og det har været meget svært og alvorligt for hende, fordi hun blev udsat for en grov behandling af en betjent ved Midt- og Vestjyllands Politi Holstebro, den 19 sep. 2012. Den betjent har efterfølgende aldrig villet afsløre sin identitet. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen var hos ham den dag, og han vil kunne sige nøjagtig hvilken betjent han talte med, og desuden forstår vi ikke, at politiet ikke har notatpligt. Hvordan kan en betjent, der ikke vil give sit navn til kende, starte en alvorlig sag op mod to borgere? Vi sender dette følgende, som vi har sendt til borgmestre i Holstebro, Struer og Viborg. https://goo.gl/8Jrz1J
Jonas Serner-Pedersen er præst I HJERM, hvor Aalborgs biskop Henning Toft Bro var sognepræst tidligere i sit karriereforløb. Vi har mere end én gang efterlyst biskop Henning Toft Bros hjælp i vores sag, da vi jo i god tro formodede, at han også ønsker at borgerne i HJERM ikke bliver ført bag lyset.
Johannes Hansen fra Apostolsk Kirke er politianmeldt SAMMEN med journalist og VALGMENIGHEDSPRÆST ved Aalborg VALGMENIGHED Jesper Fodgaard, der har været Leder i Dansk Oase i en nu afsluttet årrække. De er ansvarlige for medlemmer i menigheder, der fik stjålet GAVEBIDRAG oppe i Kolding Kirkecenter af Lone Ingrid Ambæk - nu Skjoldholm, som satte GAVEBIDRAG der skulle gå ind i kirkens regnskab ind på sin egen konto i Danske Bank. Alle vi medlemmer som det drejer sig om kunne ikke heller få vort lovmæssige skattefradrag pga hendes tyveri og at det ledende senior præstepar ved Kolding Kirkecenter Flemming og Grete Petterson VILLE "BESKYTTE KIRKEN" og ikke gå til politiet vedr. LONE AMBÆK, og ej heller informere de bestjålne. Jesper Fodgaard var mentor for Jonas Serner- Pedersen da denne var VALGMENIGHEDSPRÆST i Kolding. Dvs procedurerne og kommandovejen i kirkens lederskab var dog sådan, at vi aldrig fik et klart svar på om Jesper Fodgaard var det daværende LEDERSKABS mentor eller kun for Jonas Serner-Pedersen.
Lars Skov Krøgholt og jeg Daniela Skov får den vejledning fra STATSADVOKATEN i Viborg i 2011 senest, at vi skal politianmelde så mange præster som muligt, der ikke har taget ansvar for selv at gå til politiet og anmeldt Lone Ingrid Ambæk og de penge, hun tog som SIT PERSONLIGE GAVEBIDRAG. Da vi så politianmelder de ansvarlige LEDENDE PRÆSTER FRAVÆLGER POLITIET GANG PÅ GANG AT TAGE SIG AF ANMELDELSERNE.
Vi bliver utroligt kede af det, men også vrede, når vi ser at kejseren ingen klæder har på!
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Samuel er min ven, oprindelig fra Rumænien, som jeg Lars gik på International Apostolsk Højskole sammen med for 6-7 år siden.
Mvh. Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt
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Deres Majestæt!
Kære Statsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen
Kære Justitsminister Søren Pind
Kære Kirkeminister Bertel Haarder
Kære Borgmester i Viborg Torsten Nielsen og byrådet i Viborg
Kære 1. Viceborgmester Jens Rohde
Kære 2. Viceborgmester Per Møller Jensen
Kære Borgmester i Struer Mads Jacobsen
Kære Biskop Henrik Stubkjær
Kære Provst Carsten Hoffmann
Kære Senioranklager Merete Sanning
I 2012 bad vi biskop Karsten Nissen og provst Carsten Hoffmann, Struer provsti samt menighedsrådet i Hjerm, som hører til provstens tilsynsområde om at yde medarbejderpleje, -omsorg over for Hjerms nye sognepræst Jonas Serner Pedersen, da han kom fra en meget svær situation med 1½ års mobning fra lederskabet i Kolding Valgmenighed. Vi havde bedt Jonas Serner-Pedersen i april/maj 2012 om udmeldelseskvittering for at være sikker på at være udmeldt af Kolding Valgmenighed. Det var en samvittighedssag. Vi ønsker ikke at være medlem af en kirke, hvor lederskabet mobber deres præst. Desuden bad Daniela Jonas Serner-Pedersen som var hendes præst i Kolding, om en påkrævet anbefaling til Academy i Life Church i Bradford, England. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen var blevet fyret fra sin stilling i Kolding Valgmenighed ganske pludseligt, så han var i stor krise. Lederskabet havde beskyldt ham for ikke at være god til at udføre administrative opgaver. Han havde endda specifikt bedt Daniela komme og bede for ham en til to dage efter fyringen. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen giver os aldrig nogen tilbagemelding på de papirmæssige spørgsmål vi har, hverken ”ja”, ”nej” eller ”vil ikke”. I stedet bruger han Holstebro politi 19 sept. 2012 til at få et polititilhold på os, så han slipper for at vi kommer op og får ordnet de papirmæssige forhold, der kunne tage 15 minutter af hans tid. Struer politi er også involveret. Den første tid efter at vi fik polititilhold var vi meget chokerede, i krise og rystede og kunne slet ikke fatte, at det var vores tidligere præst, nu Sognepræst i Hjerm kirker Jonas Serner-Pedersen, der stod bag at politiet ringede til os, så vi kontaktede ham i et stykke tid efter. Daniela blev ringet op af Struer politi, og vi er blevet ringet op af Holstebro politi og Sydøstjyllands Politi. Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen må jo have direkte kontaktet dem, når vi har skrevet til ham. Det der gjorde, at vi forstod alvoren var, at politiet i Holstebro eller Sydøstjylland eller måske Struer sagde: ”næste gang bliver det FÆNGSEL!”. Vi har aldrig været i polititilhør, men har fået tildelt bødestraf. Vi er blevet nægtet partshøring af Holstebro politi som det seneste. Statsadvokaten, Senioranklager i Viborg anmodede Holstebro politi om at kalde os ind til partshøring, men det er nægtet af politiet.
I foråret 2013 var vi kaldt ind i retten i Holstebro.
Citat fra ”Udskrift af dombogen. DOM afsagt den 20. juni 2013”:
”Påstande. Anklagemyndigheden har nedlagt påstand om bødestraf. De tiltalte har erkendt sig skyldige.
Sagens oplysninger.
Daniela Skov har forklaret, at det er rigtigt, at hun har afsendt sms-beskeder samt mailet til Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, ligesom hun også har indtalt forskellige beskeder på Serner-Pedersens telefonsvarer. Hun kan således godt erkende, at hun har overtrådt tilholdet af 12. november 2012, men hun forstår ikke baggrunden for det pågældende tilhold. Hun fik nærmest et chok, da tilholdet blev forkyndt for hende, og hun var efterfølgende i alvorlig krise. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen havde været næstformand i en forening kaldet ”Oasen” (”Dansk Oase”, vor anm.), som er en kirkelig organisation under Kolding Valgmenighed. Der opstod på et tidspunkt alvorlige problemer i ”Oasen”, hvor også tiltalte havde en søn, som var med i bevægelsen. På et tidspunkt blev Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen bortvist fra Kolding Valgmenighed. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen syntes, at kirken skulle beskyttes, og han ville derfor ikke være med til at afdække de ulovligheder, der var foregået i ”Oasen". Tiltalte og Lars Krøgholt rettede henvendelse til Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, fordi han skulle sende dem nogle papirer, men der skete ingenting. De manglede således nogle udmeldelsespapirer samt en kvittering for modtagelse af en udmeldelse. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen forholdt sig fuldstændig passiv, og dette er baggrunden for de gentagne henvendelser til ham fra de tiltaltes side.
Lars Krøgholt har forklaret, at han også kan erkende at have afsendt sms-beskeder, e-mails og foretaget opkald til Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, som nævnt i forhold 5 og 6. Han kan i det hele henholde sig til den forklaring, som er afgivet af Daniela Skov. Tiltalte skulle også bruge nogle papirer, herunder en kvittering og en referenceskrivelse fra Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen.”
En politibetjent i Midt- og Vestjyllands Politi i Holstebro ringede os op på Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersens vegne 19-09-2012. Han har holdt sin identitet skjult indtil nu, hvilket betyder at vi har mistet vores lovmæssige retssikkerhed i Danmark, og det er måske også derfor politiet har nægtet os partshøring på trods af Statsadvokatens besked til dem. En politibetjent vist nok en Jesper Andersen – vi har udskrift af forhøret - har været i forhør hos politiet, men de havde valgt at forhøre pågældende betjent om en forkerte dato.
Link til afgørelsen https://goo.gl/FVBjVh
I 2014 fandt vi selv ud af, nærmest ved et tilfælde, at Jonas Serner-Pedersen havde indmeldt os mod vor viden og vilje i to sognekirker her i Kolding. Han var som vores præst i besiddelse af vores udmeldelsespapirer med vores cpr-numre og hans håndskrevne underskrift. Vi har så været indmeldt i to sognekirker uretmæssigt og har betalt kirkeskat imod vor vilje og viden. Vi har som borgere i Danmark grundlovssikret religionsfrihed, så for os er det forfatningsstridigt, at vi blev tilmeldt statskirker mod vor vilje og bag om ryggen på os. Og præster, provster og biskopper er folkevalgte i det kirkelige demokrati. Vi har selv tidligere udmeldt os af den danske folkekirke efter grundige overvejelser og ladet os døbe i hhv. Pinsekirken i Esbjerg 1997 (Daniela Skov) og i Apostolsk Kirke Kolding, 2007 (Lars Skov Krøgholt). Retten i Holstebro undrede sig meget over at de ikke var blevet oplyst fra Jonas Serner-Pedersen omkring de papirer, vi havde forsøgt at tale med ham om tilbage fra april/maj 2012. Carsten Hofmann, Struer Provsti har været vidende om disse ting helt tilbage fra efteråret (omkring september) 2012.
Biskoppen i Viborg Henrik Stubkjær har den 2. oktober været i Hjerm for at tale om sit embede og skiftet fra at være Generalsekretær for Folkekirkens Nødhjælp. På Hjerm kirkers side på Facebook er indsat et billede, en selfie af sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen med Henrik Stubkjær i baggrunden. Hvis jeg var biskop, ville jeg blive alarmeret over, at en sognepræst vælger på Facebook at fremvise en embedsmand, der taler ved et offentligt møde på en sådan selvdyrkende og respektløs måde.
I Dagbladet Information for i går http://www.information.dk/547395 er FORSIDEN viet til temaet at politiet lyver. Det er ikke godt for os borgere og det er magtovergreb, at deres biskop er ligeglad med at han og Jonas benytter sig af politiløgn, så Jonas ikke skal tale med os om sin forfatningsstridige indmeldelse af os i statsreligionen og statskirken som vi udtrykkeligt ikke ønskede at være meldt ind i!
Og vi oplever det meget respektløst mod os og mod borgerne i HJERM at de ikke tager hånd om at få fjernet polititilhold og tager alvorligt, at politiet lyver og nægter os borgere PARTSHØRING på trods af henstilling fra Statsadvokat i VIBORG, Senioranklager Merete Sanning‼
Det falder tilbage på byens kommune, når dens biskop er direkte involveret og holder hånden over politi løgne fra den præst, som det er hans ansvar at føre tilsyn med.
Hvis de frasiger sig at de er en del af politik og samfund, så bliver vi andre bare legetøj for dem. Måske er det derfor de ikke mener de behøver at tage ansvar for de konsekvenser deres liv har i deres medborgeres liv. Det er en total misforståelse. Biskoppen lyver for sig selv om sin og kirkens rolle i politik. Ingen kan holde sig uden for politik. Det er ansvarsfralæggelse, at de tror de kan melde sig ud af samfundet og sige vi har ikke noget med politik at gøre. Indgår vi ikke alle i det politiske liv i vores samfund, blot i egenskab af at være borgere i vort land? Når sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen og biskop Henrik Stubkjær er involveret sammen med politiet i at nægte os partshøring, og i at vi har MISTET vores retssikkerhed som borgere i Danmark, så står biskoppen og sognepræsten ikke som nogen der blander sig uden om politik, men de står som KIRKENS repræsentanter for LOVLØSHED OG ANARKI!!!
https://sites.google.com/site/ytrings/2012/september/19-09-2012
Med venlig hilsen Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
This is sent to the mayors of all the Danish dioceses.
The only Bishop who handed out while we experienced really bad treatment against Jonas Serner-Pedersen and against ourselves, was Niels Henrik Ahrendt in Haderslev. We wrote to him and to the Dean Frank Kjærgaard in Kolding, and the two corresponded back and was really supportive. Pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen was really glad that we took him in defense.
Think that it is never dropped any of you deans and bishops for the chest, the parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen uses police to avoid making a piece of administrative work, which he could have done in a quarter of an hour. And to think that none of you deans and bishops have wanted to respond and reach out to Jonas, as we directly asked for employee care for Jonas Serner-Pedersen, who was entirely in crisis, out of balance after being sacked from the church “Kolding Valgmenighed”.
He made a story to the police that he chose to resign as a pastor. He said several untruths to police as he escaped to be confronted with. He is apparently "more equal before the law" than we ordinary citizens are. He was fired. What he chose to withdraw from was a vote which otherwise was being set in motion, for if he still could be re-elected as the Church's pastor, if there could be raised a majority of Ward members for him to continue.
In the period before the vote was to take place Daniela and her now deceased friend Mary visited Jonas, and they came with breakfast. Jonas was so upset by it and had it bad. He should contact his Trade Union, while they were there. When Mary and Daniela were going to go, he asked them to be a little longer with him! He trusted Mary and Daniela, that there was a greater proportion of the Congregation, who didn't like him. He was, of course, not easy with this.
Why are we not been heard when we have asked for employee care and care for Jonas, who was in a difficult time?
In what we have written has been a two-sided message. On the one hand, we would help and support Jonas Serner-Pedersen, which we perceived to be our friend, and on the other hand, we wanted to retain him in his responsibility to us as fellow human beings and as former parishioners, who wanted him to make an important piece of administrative work for us.
He told police during questioning a story about that Daniela gave him a possessive caring and contacted him a bunch of times, and unspoken was his solution, as we learned from the outset that he closed by and tried to keep us at a distance with total silence and by ignoring our requests.
In the interrogation report from when he sought to get the restraining order against us, he said, that when we wrote that we would come to him in Hjerm and talk to him, "(he) was fully aware that he could no longer be content to ignore and not even be able to stop the harassment and therefore turned to this station for help".
We write because we are in a time in our society, where the police are under the microscope, because they were caught in lies, and it is now under investigation because of Christiania and Tibet. As citizens, we need to be able to have confidence in the police, not least for the police that is in our immediate vicinity. We are two citizens who since 19 sept. 2012 – so well in three years, has been subject to serious police lie and withdrawing our legal certainty in Denmark due to Mid and Western Jutland Police in Holstebro and the parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen, Hjerm. Mid and Western Jutland police has denied us-party consultation as the last action from them. We were in court in Holstebro in 2103 and following is a transcript of the judgment of the Court of first instance in Holstebro. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen gave me, Daniela Skov, Kolding a police restraining order in November 2012, the day before the democratic church council elections are held in Denmark. I Lars Skov Krøgholt got a police restraining order something later, and the only thing I know and remember, is a phone call where a police officer says that Jonas will not hear anything about Daniela from you. Parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen has also written and complained to police over that I trusted him the truth under the vow when he was a pastor in Kolding, that I lost my longtime permanent work with Post Denmark due to I got violently stress of the treatment I got from pastors in Kolding. I have paper on it, so I can't see how it can help Jonas as Vicar in Hjerm suddenly can use it to get a restraining order on me. Daniela got post-traumatic stress, and it has been very difficult and serious for her because she was exposed to a serious treatment of a police officer by Mid and Western Jutland Police Holstebro, on 19 September 2012. The police officer has subsequently never wanted to reveal his identity. Parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen was with him that day, and he will be able to say exactly what officer he spoke with, and in addition, we do not understand, that the police do not have the note obligation. How can a police officer who won't give his name to know, start a serious case against two citizens? We shall send the following, which we have sent to the mayors of Holstebro, Struer and Viborg.
In HJERM where the bishop of Aalborg Henning T Bro was parish pastor earlier in his career. We have more than once called for Bishop Henning T Bro’s help in our case, since we in good faith suspected that he also wants the citizens of HJERM will not be duped.
Johannes Hansen from the Apostolic Church in Aalborg, police notified together with journalist and pastor at the church “Aalborg Valgmenighed” Jesper Fodgaard, who has been a Leader in the “Dansk Oase” church movement for several years, which has now ended. They are responsible for members in congregations who received stolen GIFT CONTRIBUTION up in Kolding Church Centre of Lone Ingrid Ambæk-now Skjoldholm, which put GIFT CONTRIBUTIONS that were to go into the Church's accounts into her own account at “Danske Bank”. All we members as it relates to could not even get our legal tax deductions due to her theft and that the senior pastors at Kolding Church Centre, Flemming and Grete Petterson, WOULD "PROTECT the CHURCH" and did not go to the police about LONE AMBÆK or even inform they had been robbed. Jesper Fodgaard was the mentor of Jonas Serner-Pedersen when he was pastor in the church “Kolding Valgmenighed”. That is, procedures and chain of command in the Church's leadership were such that we never got a clear answer on whether Jesper Fodgaard was the then LEADERSHIP’s mentor or only for Jonas Serner-Pedersen.
Lars Skov Krøgholt and I get the instructions from the PUBLIC PROSECUTOR in Viborg in 2011 at the latest, that we must police notify as many pastors as possible who have not taken responsibility for themselves to go to the police and notify Lone Ingrid Ambæk and the money she took as HER PERSONAL GIFT CONTRIBUTION. When we then police notify the responsible SENIOR CLERGY the POLICE AGAIN and AGAIN DESELECTS to TAKE CARE of WHAT WE HAVE NOTIFIED.
We become very sorry, but also angry, when we see that the emperor has no clothes!
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Samuel Lacatus
“Where are all those wise, blessed and polite pastors in the free churches who should go in front and talk with the wise leaders in this country? I think somebody feel themselves too well on the benches and heat them up really well. Poor we who fight out in the alleys and the streets and in life. If one needs help for prayer you almost have to beg for it and make an appointment, while people are in need of the help and anointing, blessing from the elders."
Samuel is my friend, initially from Rumania, with whom I Lars studied at International Apostolic Bible College 6-7 years ago.
Previously sent out
In 2012, we asked Bishop Karsten Nissen and Dean Carsten Hoffmann, Struer deanery and Parish Council in Hjerm, which belongs to the Dean’s regulatory area to provide employee care to the new vicar in the parish of Hjerm Jonas Serner P, since he came from a very difficult situation with 1 ½ years of bullying from the leadership in the church Kolding Valgmenighed. We had asked Jonas Serner-Pedersen in April/May 2012 about a receipt to be sure we were signed out of Kolding Valgmenighed. It was a matter of conscience. We do not want to be a member of a church where the leadership bully their pastor. In addition, Daniela Skov asked Jonas Serner-Pedersen who was her pastor in Kolding, about a required recommendation for the Academy of “Life Church” in Bradford, England. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen had been fired from his position in Kolding Valgmenighed quite suddenly, so he was in a great crisis. The leadership had accused him of not being good to perform administrative tasks. He even had specifically asked Daniela come and pray for him one to two days after the dismissal. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen never gave us any feedback on the issue of finishing papers for us, neither "Yes", "no" or "will not". Instead, he uses “Midt- og Vestjyllands politi” police 19 sept. 2012 to get a police restraining order on us, so he won't have to have us come up and get the papers done which could have taken 15 minutes of his time. Struer police are also involved.
The first time after we got summonses, we were very shocked, in crisis and shook and could not comprehend that it was our former pastor, now parish pastor in Hjerm churches Jonas Serner-Pedersen, who stood behind that the police called us, so we contacted in writing him for a while after. Daniela was called up by the police, Struer and we have been called up by Holstebro police and South East Jutland Police. Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen may then have directly contacted them after we wrote to him. What made us understand the seriousness was that the police in Holstebro or Southeast Jutland or perhaps Struer said: "next time it will be in PRISON!". We have never been interrogated by the police, but we have been assigned a financial penalty. We have been denied an interrogation by Holstebro police as the latest. The public prosecutor, Senior Prosecutor in Viborg requested Holstebro police to call us in for the interrogation, but it was denied by the police.
In the spring of 2013, we were called into court in Holstebro.
Quote from "Transcript of dombogen. Judgment on 20. June 2013 ":
"Allegations. The prosecution contends financial penalty. The defendants have pleaded guilty.
Proceedings information.
Daniela Skov has explained that it is true that she has sent text messages as well as emailed to Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, just as she has also recorded various messages on Serner-Pedersen's answering machine. She may well recognize that she has violated the estrangement measures by 12. November 2012, but she does not understand the background for the restraining order. She got almost a shock when the estrangement measures was served on her, and she was subsequently in serious crisis. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen had been Vice-President of an association called "The Oasis" ("Danish Oasis", our note), which is an ecclesiastical organisation under the Kolding Valgmenighed. There was at one time serious problems in "the OASIS", where the accused had a son who was a member of the movement. At one point in time was Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen expelled from Kolding Valgmenighed. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen thought that the Church should be protected, and he would therefore not help to uncover the illegal activity that had taken place in "the OASIS". Defendants and Lars Krøgholt made contact to Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, because he was going to send them some papers, but nothing happened. Thus some notice they lacked papers as well as an acknowledgement of receipt of a resignation. Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen remained totally passive, and this is the reason for the repeated request to him from the defendants ' side.
Lars Krøgholt explained that he also can admit having sent text messages, emails and made calls to Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, as mentioned in the conditions 5 and 6. He can, overall, refer to the explanation, as offered by Daniela Skov. Defendants should also use some papers, including a receipt and a reference letter from Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen,"
A police officer in Central and Western Jutland Police in Holstebro rang us up on Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen's behalf, 19-09-2012. He has kept his identity hidden until now, which means that we have lost our legal certainty in Denmark, and it is perhaps also, why police has denied us-party consultation in spite of State Attorney's message to them. A police officer Jesper Andersen was in interrogation with the police, but they had chosen to interrogate concerned the PC on a wrong date.
Link to decision https://goo.gl/FVBjVh
In 2014 we found out for ourselves, almost by chance, that Jonas Serner-Pedersen had joined us without our knowledge and will in two parish churches here in Kolding. He was as our pastor in possession of our notice papers with our social security numbers and his handwritten signature. We have then been joined in two parish churches improperly and has paid the church tax against our will and knowledge. We have as citizens in Denmark constitutional religious freedom, so for us it is unconstitutional, that we were enrolled in State churches against our will and behind the back of us. And pastors, deans and bishops are elected in the ecclesiastical democracy. We have even earlier announced us of the Danish people's Church after thorough considerations and let us baptize in respectively The Pentecostal Church in Esbjerg 1997 (Daniela Skov) and Apostolic Church in Kolding, 2007 (Lars Skov Krøgholt). The Court in Holstebro marvelled much that they had not been informed of Jonas Serner-Pedersen about the papers we had tried to talk to him about back from April/May 2012. Carsten Hofmann, Struer Deanery has been knowledgeable about these things all the way back from the fall (around september) 2012.
The Bishop of Viborg Henrik Stubkjær has the 2. October been in Hjerm to talk about his Office and the change from being General Secretary of DanChurchAid. On Hjerm churches’s page on Facebook is inserted a picture, a selfie of parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen with Henrik Stubkjær in the background. If I were the Bishop, I'd be alarmed that a parish pastor chooses on Facebook to showcase an official speaking at a public meeting in this self-displaying way.
In the newspaper “Information” for yesterday the FRONT PAGE is devoted to the theme that the police is lying. It is not good for us citizens and it is abusive that their Bishop does not care that he and Jonas take advantage of police lie so Jonas shall not speak with us about his unconstitutional enrollment of us in the State religion and State Church as we expressly did not want to be enrolled in!
And we are experiencing it very disrespectful against us and against the citizens of Hjerm that they do not take care of the removal of police restraining order and take it seriously that the police are lying and denying us citizens-PARTY CONSULTATION despite the recommendation of the public prosecutor in VIBORG, Senior Prosecutor Merete Sanning ‼
It falls back on the city's municipality, when its Bishop is directly involved and keeps the hand of police lies from the pastor, as it is his responsibility to supervise.
If they disclaim that they are part of politics and society, then the rest of us are just toys for them. Maybe that is why they do not believe they need to take responsibility for the impact their lives have in their fellow citizens ' lives. It is a total misconception that they can sign up out of society and say that we have nothing to do with politics. We are not all included in the political life of our society, just as to be citizens in our country? When the parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen and Bishop Henry Stubkjær is involved together with the police in to deny us the consultation of interested parties, and in that we have lost our legal security as citizens in Denmark, so says the Bishop and the parish priest not as someone who stay out of politics, but they stand as CHURCH representatives of LAWLESSNESS and ANARCHY!!!
With best regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt