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Deres Majestæt!
Kære Statsminister Helle Thorning-Schmidt
Kære Justitsminister Mette Frederiksen
Kære Finansminister Bjarne Corydon
Kære Kultur- og Kirkeminister Marianne Jelved
Kære Uddannelses- og Forskningsminister Sofie Carsten Nielsen
Kære Økonomi- og Indenrigsminister Morten Østergaard
Kære DA
Kære AC
Kære LO
Kære Den Danske Præsteforening
Kære biskopper, provster og præster i folkekirken, valgmenigheder og frikirker
Spørgsmål til Dansk Arbejdsgiverforening og Hovedorganisationerne AC og LO: Er det rentabelt for Danmark at staten og skatteyderne finansierer virksomheden, institutionen kirken? Den danske Præsteforening og Kristelig Fagbevægelse er bekendt med forholdene i kirken. På baggrund af en verserende sag gennem tre år, hvor det dyre statsapparat; kirke, politi, statsadvokaturen, retten i Holstebro og sygehus er inddraget uden nogen af os borgere i Danmark er bekendt med de faktiske udgifter.
https://sites.google.com/site/ytrings/2015/maj/28-05-2015
Følgende har vi sendt til EU-parlamentariker Morten Helveg Petersen den 28. maj 2015:
Vi har tidligere skrevet til dig om at Sognepræst i HJERM Jonas Serner- Pedersen har hindret vor Ytringsfrihed m POLITITILHOLD og vor RELIGIONSFRIHED ved at tilmelde os som medlemmer I STATENS Kirke fra maj 2012 UDEN VOR VIDEN OG TILLADELSE VHA VORE CPR.NUMRE. Vi har mod vor vilje og uden vor VIDEN HELLER betalt URETMÆSSIG Kirkeskat i 2 år. Forhold vi opdagede ved et tilfælde i forår 2014! Han umuliggjorde VORES FRIE BEVÆGELIGHED OVER GRÆNSERNE VED AT UNDLADE at skrive en kort anbefaling til Life Church, Bradford ENGLAND , Leadership Academy som de forventer at få fra ansøgeres Pastor. Ja, ved polititilhold mod os BESKYTTEDE Jonas Serner- Pedersen, HJERM, sig mod enhver DIALOG MED OS og SATTE ET DYRT STATSLIGT APPARAT IND FOR AT SIKRE SIG FRED TIL SIT ARBEJDE: POLITI I MIDT- OG VESTJYLLAND, HOLSTEBRO OG STRUER SAMT SYDØSTJYLLANDS POLITI. LIGESÅ STATSADVOKATUR I VIBORG OG RETTEN I HOLSTEBRO SÅ VI IKKE KUNNE KOMME OP TIL HAM I HJERM OG TALE MED HAM UDEN RISIKO FOR FÆNGSELSTRUSLER FRA POLITIET TELEFONISK OG MED BØDER, VI BETALER FOR OVERTRÆDELSER AF DET FOR OS SOM BORGERE I NATIONEN DANMARK HELT UHYGGELIGE, KRÆNKENDE OG BIZARRE POLITITILHOLD VI ALDRIG JFR. POLITIET KAN KOMME FRI AF FOR JONAS SERNER- PEDERSEN HAR RET!!! TIL POLITIBESKYTTELSE MOD OS, SOM VAR VI RADIKALISEREDE KRISTNE TERRORISTER. Han har dog endnu ikke fået PETs døgnbeskyttelse mod os.
Vi vil bede dig om at tage dig af denne store FORBRUGSFEST som er ALVORLIGT pengefrås fra Kirken i Danmark med Staten og Skatteydernes penge.
Tidligere er det blevet skrevet i medier i Danmark i reformprocessen af Statens Kirke, at Biskopperne KUN VIL at Kirkeministeren i Danmark skal være på sin post, som den instans der giver dem fred til at udføre deres arbejde.
Det er disrespekt af groveste karakter og undladelse af LEDERSKAB at MISBRUGE KIRKEMINISTEREN OG AT LADE HÅNT OM EN KIRKEMINISTERS HENSTILLING, som den fra vor Fhv. Kirkeminister Manu Sareen til fhv. men mangeårige Biskop Karsten Nissen, Viborg i 2012, hvor han skriver til os og lader SIT ANSVAR LIGGE og giver ABEN tilbage
til fhv. Biskop Niels Henrik Arendt, Haderslev. Sidstnævnte havde på grundlag af mangelfuld lovgivning og ikke fyldestgørende strukturer KUN mulighed for at hjælpe daværende VALGMENIGHEDspræst i Kolding VALGMENIGHED Jonas Serner- Pedersen HVIS HAN SOM PRÆST SELV ØNSKEDE AT SAMTALE MED SIN BISKOP FRA HADERSLEV STIFT!!!
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https://sites.google.com/site/ytrings/2012/novem/16-11-2012‼‼‼‼‼ Her står følgende:
"‼‼‼ Jeg ønsker IKKE AT FRADØMME biskop KARSTEN NISSEN al ære og værdighed, LANGT FRA.... MEN KIRKEN RÅBER OG SKRIGER TIL OS I DETTE BREV...
‼‼BLOT IKKE DET KARSTEN NISSEN KOMMUNIKERER MEN DET VI SOM IKKE ER LEDERE MEN
(…)‼‼ vi kom sådan i stress og afmagt og alt muligt over hans brev." Det kommunikerer til Lars og jeg et bureaukrati, som i POLEN hvor man går ind på et posthus for at købe et frimærke. Kender ET EKSEMPEL FRA EN POLSK VENINDE I DK, DOG IKKE ANGÅENDE ET FRIMÆRKE PÅ ET POSTHUS.. Så blir man beordret til et kontor på 5 sal og derfra ned i stuen, hvorfra turen går til 3etage og videre rundt i et endeløst system.....men man er så heldig til sidst at finde ud af man heldigvis kan KØBE et frimærke af en VEN, efter at få at vide at frimærker har de aldrig haft på det posthus."‼‼‼‼‼‼‼
At biskopperne ikke synes at være klædt på til personaleledelse er ret alvorligt!
Den 29. maj 2015 sendte vi følgende til bl.a. Dansk Ateistisk Selskab:
Deres Majestæt!
Kære Statsminister Helle Thorning-Schmidt
Kære Kultur- og Kirkeminister Marianne Jelved
Kære Finansminister Bjarne Corydon
Kære Martin Krasnik
Kære Anders Stjernholm, Ateistisk Selskab
Kære Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Hvem betaler Jonas S-P’s forbrug af politiets ressourcer? Hvorfor er det så farligt at melde ud hvad der foregår i den protestantiske del af kirken i Danmark
Spørgsmål til Finansminister Bjarne Corydon: Hvem betaler Jonas Serner-Pedersens forbrug af politiets ressourcer?
Hvorfor er det så farligt at melde ud hvad der foregår i den protestantiske del af kirken i Danmark. Hvorfor hedder det sig ”vi skal beskytte kirken”, når andre trossamfund (ateistisk selskab, agnostikere, Flying Spaghetti Monster) ikke holder deres meninger skjult. Hvordan kan det være, at tilmeldte og betalende kirkeskatteydere i Danmark og tilmeldte gavebidragsydere i frikirkerne ikke må vide hvad der foregår i KIRKEN, men bliver aktivt hindret i at kunne tage velinformeret stilling som borgere i Danmark til den kirke, og hvad der foregår i den kirke, som er en del af vores liv, ja som endda vil have penge ud af os. SOM VI ENDDA BETALER VORES PENGE TIL.
Spørgsmål til finansminister Bjarne Corydon: Du har sagt på tv i forbindelse med problematikken DONG – Goldman Sachs, og hvor du bliver udfordret i tillid/ mistillid, at du har skatteyderne, som du skal tage vare på i Danmark. Hvordan kan statens kirke år efter år være på finansloven, samt kræve kirkeskat ind fra mange borgere i Danmark, når der foregår så meget skjult for den brede befolkning, som bevidst er blevet holdt skjult? Som bevidst og med forsæt bliver holdt skjult; vi citerer: ”Vi skal beskytte kirken. Nye kristne (døbte) må ikke vide, hvad der foregår her, for så vil de ikke komme her” – februar 2012, Sognepræst i Hjerm Jonas Serner-Pedersen, i Viborg Stift under Biskop Henrik Stubkjær, Struer Provsti under Provst Carsten Hoffmann.
Kære Martin Krasnik.
Jeg så en virkelig god og tankevækkende samtale mellem dig og New York Times YTRINGSFRIHEDEN på min DR app igår! Idag har jeg set dette fra Anders Stjernholm og kunne KUN erklære mig 110 % ENIG så jeg har skrevet til ham og sendt ham satire som foregår BAG ved ryggen af langt de fleste som 1. BETALER DERES KIRKESKAT
2. IKKE HAR NOGEN MULIGHED FOR AT TAGE VEL INFORMERET STILLING TIL DERES MEDLEMSSKAB AF STATENS KIRKE. DET ER IKKE EN VÆRDIG SITUATION FOR NOGEN BORGER I DANMARK!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Daniela Skov <daniela.skov@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, May 29, 2015
Subject: Adskillelse af kirke og stat er min drøm om et valgtema | Religion.dk :"Spørgsmålet om religionslighed bør snart tages op. Og min holdning starter med en følelse: Der er simpelthen noget uetisk i, at staten har en favoritreligion, skriver talsmand for Ateistisk Selskab, Anders Stjernholm"
"Spørgsmålet om religionslighed bør snart tages op. Og min holdning starter med en følelse: Der er simpelthen noget uetisk i, at staten har en favoritreligion, skriver talsmand for Ateistisk Selskab, Anders Stjernholm!"
Adskillelse af kirke og stat er min drøm om et valgtema | Religion.dk
http://www.religion.dk/synspunkt/adskillelse-af-kirke-og-stat-er-min-droem-om-et-valgtema
Vi har skrevet til Talsmand for Ateistisk Selskab Anders Stjernholm, Danske Ateister og Agnostikere og Danish Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, følgende udpluk:
De sku ta og melde sig ind i Ateistisk Selskab så biskopperne‼️ Ville de være velkomne hos jer? De vil nok bare snakke ørerne af jer
Hilsener
Daniela Skov
kirken er jo alligevel styret af ateisme via biskopper som erklærer JESUS ikke fysisk opstået! Hvis Han kun er opstået i mindet så at sige, LEVER Han jo ikke fysisk i himlen. Gud er FAR og JESUS SØN
OG DE ER GUD SÅ ER JESUS DØD ER GUD DØD.
De sku ta og melde sig ind i Ateistisk Selskab så biskopperne‼️ Ville de være velkomne hos jer? De vil nok bare snakke ørerne af jer
Hilsener
Daniela Skov
Jeg skrev det til Ateistisk selskab, for ingen af biskopperne svarer nogensinde udover uhøfligt AUTOGENERET :"Tak for .. De vil høre fra ...snarest !"
Med venlig hilsen Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt
Barnedåben i den protestantiske folkekirke fungerer ligesom et abonnement, hvor man starter med et tilbud, hvor man sparer en masse penge – f.eks. i en bogklub får man den første bog til 9 kr. Så bliver man hængende. Det gode tilbud er håbet om at komme i himlen. Man håber man som forældre sikrer sine børn, hvis der er "mere mellem himmel og jord". Børnene bliver meldt ind i ”klubben”, bliver medlem af kirken og Guds familie, siger præsten over dem ved dåben i kirken – og bliver hængende. Så er der også diverse fordele: man kan selv blive gift, få døbt og konfirmeret børnene og der er penge at spare ved begravelsen. Men det er jo også muligt at blive gift på rådhuset og begravelse behøver heller ikke at høre til i kirkeligt regi. Konfirmation hører sammen med barnedåb, men ingen af delene har hjemmel i bibelen, men kommer ud af en tradition, som en fortolkning.
Jonas Serner-Pedersen skriver på Hjerm Kirkers Facebook-side, om der mon er en skat for enden af regnbuen. Ludomaner jagter guld, der er en jagt på guld i folks karriere med arbejdsnarkomani og jagt efter anerkendelse og bekræftelse, så det går ud over alle rundt om personen. Det ligger også i livsstilen at være præst. Ethvert misbrug involverer, at man bruger sine medmennesker uden at skele til hvor meget de lider under det. Som om hensyn og personlig hensigt helliger alle midler. Det lyder utrolig ensomt, så det både er sørgeligt, og det vækker også vrede, når vi læser i Kristeligt Dagblad, at Domprovst i Odense, Henrik Vigh-Poulsen konstaterer ”Nu er jeg helt alene” efter valget til biskop i Aarhus. Det skurrer i hjertet og kroppen og det giver INGEN mening at forholdene og betingelserne er sådan på arbejdspladsen, erhvervet, institutionen kirken. Står kirken ikke for dannelse, for at modellere lederskab som værdibærer og kulturarv gennem tusinder af år?
Hvis de forhold, der råder inden for kirkens øverste lederskab, (de endog folkevalgte) biskopper, provster, menighedsråd, er et billede på, en afspejling af forholdene i lederskabet i alle danske virksomheder, så har Danmark rigeligt af karikaturer og satire. KIRKEN er religionen i Danmark!
”Finansmanden Klaus Riskær Pedersen taler i varme vendinger om Kristendemokraterne, hvis københavnerafdeling netop har spurgt, om han vil stille op til Folketinget for partiet til det kommende folketingsvalg. I programmet 'Michael Jeppesen møder Klaus Riskær Pedersen' fra den 22. marts 2015 havde Riskær da også kun gode ting at sige om partiet. - De har et sammenhængende livssyn. Det er et humanitært parti, hvor familieværdier er centralt. De har et rigtigt syn på mennesker og indvandring, siger Klaus Riskær.” (dr.dk)
Men han sagde nej tak.
”Jeg er jo den, jeg er, og jeg er ret kendt for, hvordan jeg har levet. Jeg kan ikke skrive under på et stykke papir om, at jeg går imod fri abort, når jeg ikke gør det. Det er jo simpelthen utroværdigt. Og i tv kan man ikke lyve - man ville med det samme kunne se, at jeg stanghamrende lyver, hvis jeg siger, at jeg er imod fri abort. Vi deler simpelthen ikke samme menneskesyn. Jeg kan simpelthen ikke, siger Klaus Riskær Pedersen.” (dr.dk).
Tidligere landsleder i Apostolsk Kirke i Danmark Johannes Hansen, præst i Apostolsk Kirke i Aalborg skrev på et tidspunkt i frikirkernes organ ”Domino”, at "Det er almindeligt kendt, at kirken styres ud fra forretningsprincipper. Det er bare ikke noget vi taler så meget om". Alle præster og ledere i Frikirkenet har så ansvar! Men der er og også en igangværende reform af frikirkelivet i Danmark!
Med venlig hilsen Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
Question to the Danish employers ' Confederation, the Academics and The National Organisation in Denmark (organisation of labor unions): is it profitable for Denmark that the State and taxpayers finance the company, the institution Church? The Danish Association of Pastors and the Christian Unions are familiar with conditions in the Church. On the basis of a pending case through three years, where the expensive state apparatus; Church, police, the public prosecutor's Office, Court of Holstebro, hospital are involved without any of us citizens in Denmark are familiar with the actual expenditures.
Following, we have sent to EU parliamentarian Morten Helveg Petersen on 28. may 2015:
We have previously written to you to about Vicar in HJERM Jonas Serner-Pedersen who has impeded our freedom and our RELIGIOUS FREEDOM with a POLICE RESTRAINING ORDER by signing up for us as members of the STATE Church from May 2012 without OUR KNOWLEDGE and CONSENT by USING OUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS. We have against our will and without our knowledge paid IMPROPER church tax for 2 years. These matters we discovered by accident in spring 2014! He has made impossible our FREE MOVEMENT ACROSS BORDERS by FAILING to write a short recommendation for Life Church, Bradford ENGLAND, Leadership Academy as they expect to get from the applicants Pastor. Yes, by police restraining order against us Jonas Serner-Pedersen, HJERM, PROTECTED himself against any DIALOGUE with US and put an EXPENSIVE STATE APPARATUS to action in ORDER to ENSURE PEACE for HIS WORK: POLICE in mid and WESTERN JUTLAND, HOLSTEBRO and STRUER and SOUTH EAST JUTLAND POLICE. LIKEWISE PUBLIC PROSECUTOR IN VIBORG AND THE COURT IN HOLSTEBRO SO WE COULD NOT COME UP TO HIM IN HJERM AND TALK TO HIM WITHOUT THE RISK OF JAIL THREATS FROM THE POLICE BY TELEPHONE AND WITH FINES, WE PAY FOR VIOLATIONS OF IT FOR US AS CITIZENS OF THE NATION DENMARK COMPLETELY CREEPY, ABUSIVE AND BIZARRE POLICE RESTRAINING ORDER WE ACCORDING TO THE POLICE NEVER CAN COME FREE BECAUSE JONAS SERNER-PEDERSEN IS IN THE RIGHT!!! TO HAVE POLICE PROTECTION AGAINST US, AS IF WE WERE RADICALIZED CHRISTIAN TERRORISTS. However, he has not yet gotten PETs 24-hour protection against us.
We will ask you to take action to this great FESTIVAL OF CONSUMPTION which is SERIOUSLY squandering of money from the Church in Denmark with the State and taxpayers ' money.
In the past, it has been written in the media in Denmark in the reform process of the State Church that the bishops WANT ONLY the Governmental Ministry of church in Denmark to be at its post, as the body that gives them peace to perform their work.
It is utmost disrespectful and failure of LEADERSHIP to ABUSE THE GOVERNMENTAL MINISTER OF CHURCH for selfish ambitions even of FLOUTING a GOVERNMENTAL MINISTER OF CHURCH’s RECOMMENDATION, which our former Governmental Minister of Church Manu Sareen gave to ex. but longtime Bishop Karsten Nissen, Viborg in 2012 when he in turn writes to us and lets sleep HIS RESPONSIBILITIES and gives back the MONKEY
to ex. Bishop Niels Henrik Arendt, Haderslev. The latter had, on the basis of flawed legislation and inadequate structures, ONLY the opportunity to help then-VALGMENIGHEDs priest in Kolding VALGMENIGHED Jonas Serner-Pedersen AS a PASTOR IF HE HIMSELF WANTED to TALK with HIS BISHOP FROM HADERSLEV DIOCESE!!!‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼‼
https://sites.google.com/site/ytrings/2012/novem/16-11-2012‼‼‼‼‼ From here the following quote is taken:
"‼‼‼ I do not want to take away from Bishop KARSTEN NISSEN all honor and dignity, FAR from it .... BUT THE CHURCH SHOUTS AND CRIES OUT TO US IN THIS LETTER ...
‼‼ JUST NOT WHAT KARSTEN NISSEN COMMUNICATES BUT THAT WE ARE NOT LEADERS BUT (…)
we came in such stress and powerlessness and everything possible over his letter. "
It communicates to Lars and I a bureaucracy as in POLAND where you enter a post Office to buy a stamp. I know An EXAMPLE FROM A POLISH FRIEND In Denmark, though from a different situation from the one of A POSTAGE STAMP On A Post Office.. So we will be ordered to an Office on 5th floor and from there down to the 1st floor, from where the tour goes to 3rd floor and again around in an endless system ..... but we are so happy to finally find out we fortunately can buy a stamp from a friend, after getting to know that they have never had stamps at this post office. "‼‼‼‼‼‼‼
That the bishops seemingly are not equipped to personnel management is rather serious.
On May 29th we mailed out this:
Who pays for Jonas S-P's use of police resources? Why is it so dangerous to speak out what is going on in the Protestant part of the Church in Denmark
Questions to Minister of Finance Bjarne Corydon: Who pays for Jonas Serner-Pedersen's use of police resources?
Why is it so dangerous to speak out what is going on in the Protestant part of the Church in Denmark. Why is the saying "we must protect the Church" when other religious communities (atheist company, Agnostics, the Flying Spaghetti Monster) do not keep their views hidden. How can it be that registered church tax payers in Denmark and enrolled gifts contributors in independent churches do not need to know what is going on in the Church, but are actively being prevented from being able to take a well-informed position to the Church as citizens in Denmark, and to what's going on in the Church, which is a part of our lives, and yes, which even wants money out of us. WHICH WE EVEN PAY OUR MONEY TO.
Question to Minister of Finance Bjarne Corydon: You've said on television in connection with the problem of DONG – Goldman Sachs, and where you are challenged in the trust/distrust, that you have the taxpayers, as you need to take care of in Denmark. How can the State Church, year after year, be on the budget, as well as require church tax in from many citizens in Denmark, when there is so much hidden from the general public, which has been deliberately kept hidden? Knowingly and intentionally is kept hidden; We quote: "We must protect the Church. New Christians (baptized) must not know what is going on here, because then they will not come here "– February 2012, vicar in Hjerm Jonas Serner-Pedersen, in Viborg diocese under Bishop Henry Stubkjær, Struer Deanery under Dean Carsten Hoffmann.
Dear Martin Krasnik.
I saw a really good and thought-provoking conversation between you and the New York Times: “Freedom of expression” on my DR TV app yesterday! Today, I have seen this from Anders Stjernholm and could only declare me to 110% AGREE with it so I have written to him and sent him the satire which takes place behind the back of the vast majority of which 1. PAY THEIR CHURCH TAX
2. DO NOT HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY to TAKE WELL INFORMED POSITION to THEIR MEMBERSHIP of the STATE CHURCH. IT IS NOT A DIGNIFIED SITUATION FOR ANY CITIZEN OF DENMARK!
22 05 2015 | freedom of expression
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From: Daniela Skov <daniela.skov@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, May 29, 2015
Subject: separation of Church and State is my dream of a choice theme | Religion.dk: "the issue of religious equality should soon be addressed. And my attitude starts with a feeling: there is simply something unethical in that the State has a favorite religion, writes spokesman for Atheist Company, Anders Stjernholm"
"The issue of religious equality should soon be addressed. And my attitude starts with a feeling: there is simply something unethical in that the State has a favorite religion, writes spokesman for Atheist Company, Anders Stjernholm!"
Separation of Church and State is my dream of a choice theme | Religion.dk
http://www.religion.dk/synspunkt/adskillelse-af-kirke-og-stat-er-min-droem-om-et-valgtema
We have written to the spokesman of the Atheistic Company Anders Stjernholm, Danish atheists and agnostics and Danish Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, the following selections:
They should join the Atheist Company should the bishops!! Would they be welcome with you? They will probably just talk the ears off of you
Greetings
Daniela Skov
the Church is still driven by atheism through bishops as declare JESUS not physically resurrected! If He only has arisen in the memory so to speak, He is not physically ALIVE in heaven. God is the FATHER and JESUS the SON
AND THEY ARE GOD THEN IF JESUS IS DEAD THEN GOD IS DEAD.
They should join the Atheist Company should the bishops!! Would they be welcome with you? They will probably just talk the ears off of you
Greetings
Daniela Skov
I wrote it to Atheistic Society, for none of the bishops is ever beyond impolite AUTOGENERATED: “Thank you for the ... You will hear from ... as soon as possible!"
Kind regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt
Infant christening in the Protestant Lutheran Church works like a subscription, where one starts with a quote, which saves a lot of money – eg. in a book club to get the first book for 1 Euro. So you are stuck. The deal is the hope of going to heaven. We hope you as parents to ensure their children, if there is "more between heaven and Earth". The children are enrolled in "the Club", they become members of the Church and God's family, says the pastor over them by the christening in the Church – and they are stuck. Then there are also various advantages: you can get married, get the children christened and confirmed and there is money to be saved at the funeral. However it is also possible to get married in the Town Hall and funeral does not need to be in church auspices. Confirmation belongs together with infant christening, but none of the parts are based on the Bible, but comes out of a tradition as an interpretation.
Jonas Serner-Pedersen writes, if there may be gold at the end of the Rainbow. Compulsive gamblers are chasing gold, there is a hunt for gold in people's career with Workaholism and hunt after acknowledgement and confirmation, so it hurts all the people around you. It is also in the lifestyle being a pastor. Any abuse involves the use of his fellow people without having to squint to how much they suffer under it. As if regard and personal intention justifies all means. It sounds incredibly lonely, so it is both sad and it also arouses anger, when we read in newspaper “Kristeligt Dagblad”, that Dean in Odense, Henrik Vigh-Poulsen says "now I'm all alone" after the election for Bishop of Aarhus. It goes also against in heart and body and it makes no sense that the situation and the conditions are such in the workplace, profession, institution of the Church. Is the Church not for formation of common good, in order to model leadership as a value carrier and cultural heritage over thousands of years?
If the circumstances which rule within the Church's top leadership, bishops, deans, and Parish Councils (they are even elected), are a picture, a reflection of the conditions in the leadership in all Danish companies, then Denmark has plenty of caricatures and satire. The CHURCH is the religion in Denmark!
“Financier Klaus Riskaer Pedersen speaks in warm terms about the Christian Democrats of which the Copenhagen branch has just asked whether he will stand for Parliament for the party for the upcoming election. In the program ' Michael Jeppesen meets Klaus Riskaer Pedersen ' from the 22. March 2015 had Riskaer only good things to say about the party. – They have a coherent outlook. It is a humanitarian party, where family values are central. They have a true vision of people and immigration, says Klaus Riskær.” (dr.dk)
But he said no thanks.
“I am of course, who I am, and I'm pretty well known for how I have lived. I cannot sign on a piece of paper that I oppose abortion, when I'm not doing it. It is, of course, simply incredible. And in the TV one cannot lie - one would immediately be able to see that I am Rod thumping lie, if I say that I am opposed to abortion. We simply do not share the same view of human beings. I simply can't, says Klaus Riskaer Pedersen.” (dr.dk).
Former national leader of the Apostolic Church in Denmark Johannes Hansen, pastor of the Apostolic Church in Aalborg wrote at some point in the Free Church magazine "Domino", that it is widely known that the Church is controlled based on business principles. It is just not something we talk about so much. All pastors and leaders in “Frikirkenet” (the member organisation for Free Churches in Denmark) have a responsibility! However, there is also an ongoing reform of and Free Church life in Denmark!
Kind regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt
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