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Kære Statsminister Lars Løkke Rasmussen
Kære Kirkeminister Bertel Haarder
Kære Biskop Peter Fischer-Møller
Kære Biskopper i Danmark
Kære Pastor Annette Berg
Biskop Peter Fischer-Møller, Roskilde har sammen med pastor Annette Berg, Vig, udsendt en pressemeddelelse:
http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/sites/default/files/pressemeddelselse_annette_berg.pdf
I Kristeligt Dagblad stiller journalist Christian Birk Peter Fischer-Møller nogle spørgsmål i artiklen ”Præsts tro er et mellemværende mellem hende og Gud!”
Biskop Peter Fischer-Møller siger: "Præsts tro er et mellemværende mellem hende og Gud!" Men det er da ikke sandt i en tid som denne i verdenshistorien, hvor flere end nogensinde bliver forfulgt og flere end nogensinde bliver dræbt, på grund af deres tro på kirkens Gud og Herre Jesus Kristus.
‼️‼️‼️ I pressemeddelelsen‼️‼️ står der en virkelig arrogant udtalelse, i afsnittet om at være teologiske kandidater og studerede ved universitetet for at fortolkning af skrifter fra urkirken og reformationen kan give mening og oplysning og inspiration til mennesker af i dag. Her bliver disciplene og apostlene, der var sammen med Jesus, hånet og krænket på en virkelig arrogant måde. De var fiskere og ulærde mænd, og dog blev på én dag 5000 mænd og det var vel foruden kvinder og børn, tændt i brand for Jesus Kristus, og troen spredte sig ud fra deres liv (Ny Testamente, Apostlenes Gerninger kap. 4, vers 4, side 989 i den autoriserede bibel). I pressemeddelelsen skriver Biskop Fischer-Møller, at vi bliver frelst ved Guds nåde alene. Under reformationen blev Dr. Martin Luther forfulgt og mange med ham. Mennesker led døden. Martin Luther slog fast, at vor frelse alene er ved Jesus Kristus og troen på Ham. Pressemeddelelsen bekender sig til en kristen tro, som er sjæl og legeme som en helhed. Det er dog en verden til forskel fra den Bibelske, hvor man taler om ånd, sjæl og legeme som en helhed!!!
‼️Vi efterlyser, at Biskop Peter Fischer- Møller grundigt redegør for hvilke fortolkningsnøgler, de bruger på universitetet for at kunne oplyse mennesker af i dag 2016...?
Hvis "vores opgave som præster i folkekirken er i ord og handling i og uden for gudstjeneste og kirkerummet at fortolke …" så kan det da vitterligt ikke være sandt, at hvad en præst tror er en sag mellem Vorherre og hende. Det hænger simpelthen ikke sammen.
Han viser og sender tydeligt signal med dette, at han mener ENHVER ER SALIG I SIN TRO. LIGEGYLDIGHED OG OVERFLADISKHED ER FOLKEKIRKEN NU TYDELIGT TRENDSÆTTER I ! At det er ok i folkekirken at HYKLE med ord på prædikestolen så præsten blot giver et spil for galleriet. Hvis pastor Anette Berg mener noget med RESPEKT OGSÅ FOR SIG SELV SOM VELUDDANNET KVINDE! Og Uundgåeligt som ROLLEMODEL for unge kvinder også ???? OG ikke KUN HAR et overfladisk forhold til sine egne holdninger ???? hvordan kan hun så se sig selv i øjnene med den løsning: bare tale på JOBBET, det der bevarer "brød på bordet!" - altså karrieren i behold endnu 1 år, sikret via såkaldt skærpet tilsyn. ‼️‼️‼️Hvad er DIN, BISKOP PETER FISCHER-MØLLERS grundige, tilbundsgående definition på "skærpet tilsyn" vurderet ud fra BISKOPLØFTET! ????
Et andet spørgsmål er: Hvor er respekten for menigheden? Mennesker kan komme til præsten for at betro sig om dybe livsspørgsmål, men det er til en præst, som man faktisk ikke aner, hvor man har.
MAN KAN IKKE SKUE HUNDEN PÅ HÅRENE!!!
Mvh. Daniela Skov og Lars Krøgholt
I artiklen ”Præsts tro er et mellemværende mellem hende og Gud”, står følgende at læse:
”Har du i forbindelse med dine teologiske samtaler med sognepræst Annette Berg fået afklaret, om hun stadig tror på reinkarnation?
Jeg har ikke nogen kommentarer til det, men henholder mig til, hvad der står i pressemeddelelsen. I almindelighed er spørgsmålet om, hvad et menneske tror på, et mellemværende mellem den enkelte og Vorherre. Det, som præster aflægger præsteløfte på, er, at de vil forkynde Guds ord. Fokus er på forkyndelsen, og det er også det, jeg har fokus på i mit tilsyn med præster.
Du har ellers tidligere sagt, at der skal være overensstemmelse mellem en præsts personlige tro og det, vedkommende prædiker. Er det i den forbindelse ikke afgørende, om Annette Berg tror på reinkarnation?
Jeg har ikke yderligere kommentarer”
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
Bishop Peter Fisher-Møller and Pastor Annette Berg, Vig parish have issued a press statement.
http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/sites/default/files/pressemeddelselse_annette_berg.pdf
STATEMENT TO THE PRESS.
concerning Vicar in Vig-Nr.Asminderup Parish, Annette Berg statements concerning re-incarnation and Christianity.
In connection to former issued press statements after communications between me and Vicar Annette Berg respectively on 11-11-2015 and 20-11-2015 during 20-11-2015 to 04-01-2016 during which Pastor Annette Berg has had a leave of absence I have discussed thoroughly with Pastor Annette Berg, the questions and imaginations of beliefs the spiritually seekers meet the State Church and its pastors' with including thoughts and imaginations of beliefs connected with re-incarnation.
I share Annette Berg's wish to be open to and interested in being in communication with the members of the State Church and other Danes concerning the existential and ethic thoughts they hold and about the imaginations of belief they use. This is in regard to the concept of re-incarnation as well.
As in we hold on to, what is already mentioned in The Press Statement from 11-11-2015 common to us hereby included that we in The State Church confess to a Christian Faith,
- that expresses, that the earthly life is of value in itself and blessed by God.
- that perceives soul and body as a whole
- that emphasizes, that we are saved by the grace of God alone.
- that ties the resurrection faith to the resurrection of Christ on Easter morning.
we are to emphasize, that re-incarnation is not a concept, which can be drawn from the Confessionals Of The State Church, and that a line of K imaginations in connection to the re-incarnation's thoughts are in strong tension with central elements in the Apostolic Creed, which Pastor and congregation sing together at during Church Service.
Through their inauguration, Pastors in the State Church have signed their agreement to a Pastoral Decree, and thereby obligated themselves to The Confessionals of the State Church.
Our assignment as pastors in The State Church is through words and deeds in- and outside the Church Service and The Church building to interpret the scriptures and the tradition, that are of The State Church.
For this reason, we are obligated to be Candidates of Theology to become Pastors. Through a University study, we are given tools to and we become trained in interpreting the Bible, and the early Christian Church's as well as the Confessionals Of The Reformation, for those in order to give meaning, enlightenment and inspiration to people of today 2016.
If a Pastor in The State Church no longer thinks that the Confessionals Of The State Church makes sense or chooses to join with totally different imaginations of faith than those aligned with The State Church the pastor concerned is protected through the statuary provisions of Legislation concerning freedom of religion and of speech, but the Pastor also has to take the consequences of her or his consent to The Pastoral Decree and cease to be a pastor in The State Church.
Annette Berg and I agree to these thoughts. Annette Berg commits to her pastoral creed before me.
Roskilde, 04- January 2016
HANDWRITTEN signature of Annette Berg and of Bishop Peter Fischer-Møller.
On these grounds, I hereby terminate Annette Berg's leave of absence from the Office of Pastor in Vig-Nr. Asminderup Vicarage, as of today, but I maintain the announced formerly intensified supervision temporarily until 31-12-2016.
Roskilde, 04 January 2016
HANDWRITTEN signature of Bishop Peter Fischer-Møller
Bishop Peter Fischer-Møller is interviewed in an article in the newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad.
Bishop Peter Fischer-Møller, Roskilde Diocese says in the article: a pastor answers to God about her belief system.
But that is not true. He shows as well as sends a clear signal through this statement, that to him: "everyone is blissful through whatever may be their own faith."
In Bishop Peter Fischer- Møller's Press Statement he has a highly arrogant statement, in the section concerning the Pastor as a Candidate of Theology and the importance of the Pastor being educated at a University in order for the interpretation of literatures from the ancient Church and from The Reformation can be of meaning, enlightening and of inspiration to people of today.
Here through this the disciples and the Apostles who were with Jesus are both mocked and abused in a really arrogant way.
They were Fishermen and unlearned men, BUT despite that in one day 5000 men - (and this number might well be without the counting of women and children on that day!)
had their hearts set on fire for JESUS CHRIST and Christianity spread in the region as a CONSEQUENCE of their lived lives as well as their spoken testimonies. This is to be found in The Book Of Acts Chapter 4 verse 1-4.in New Testament http://www.biblestudytools.com/nkjv/acts/passage/?q=acts+4:1-4!
Lack of caring and superficiality is now clearly the leading trend coming from The State Church.
As well as it is ok for a pastor to play the hypocrite at the pulpit so what the pastor does is just a reality show.
If pastor Annette Berg takes RESPECT FOR HERSELF SERIOUS
AS SHE IS A WELL EDUCATED WOMAN and inevitably as she is a ROLEMODEL to other women also younger women - as well as not only has a superficial attitude towards her own values and point of views : How can she look herself in the eyes while settling for this solution: "ONLY SPEAK AT HER JOB WHAT SECURES HER DAILY BREAD AT THE TABLE - as in securing her carrier yet 1 more year, made absolutely safe through BISHOP securing himself as well, that is called : "intensified supervision!"‼️‼️‼️
What is YOURS, BISHOP PETER FISCHER- MØLLER'S thorough going definition on "intensified supervision" in the light of
THE BISHOP CREED
We are in search of Bishop Peter Fischer-Møller's thorough clarification of which KEYS OF INTERPRETATIONS, they use at the University in order to enlighten people of today 2016?
If " our assignment as pastors in The State Church is in words and in actions in and outside the Church Service and the Church Building to interprete....." then it FOR CERTAIN cannot be true that a pastor answers to God for his or her faith (only as a private personal issue between her/him and God)
It simply does not hold water!
In the article in the newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad http://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/kirke-tro/biskop-praests-tro-er-et-mellemvaerende-mellem-hende-og-gud
It is said:
Do you in connection with your theological conversations with vicar Annette Berg come to a clarification whether she still believes in reincarnation?
I do not have any comments on this, but I am referring to what is said in the press release.
In general, the question of what a person believes in, is an intermediate being between the individual and the Lord. What the pastors give consent to by the Pastor's Creed, is that they will preach God's Word. The focus is on the sermon, and it is also what I have focused on in my supervision of pastors.
You have previously said that there must be consistency between a pastor's personal beliefs and what he or she preaches. It is in this context not decisive whether Annette Berg believes in reincarnation?
I do not have further comments.
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