Your Majesty!
Church Minister Marianne Jelved
Minister of Justice Karen Hækkerup
Minister of Finance Bjarne Corydon
State Attorney in Viborg
Bishop in Viborg Karsten Nissen
Dean Carsten Hoffmann
Candidates to Viborg diocese Carsten Haugaard Nielsen, Peter Hedegaard og Henrik Stubkjær
We have just learned! We have been enrolled in the state church AGAINST our own will and Knowledge! It has happened when JonasSerner-Pedersen resigned us from Kolding Valgmenighed! We are both angry and shocked as we clearly expect that such a large andimportant decision about religion and membership, must, be our own constitutional right to decide AS CITIZENS IN DENMARK!!!
I once suffered a burglary in the house we lived in. It was an act totally over the boarders. I just now feeling like there has been a break-in at my apartment. That’s the character of the offense I have been exposed to. This is also what we see on TV at the moment in the NETScase. Jonas Serner-Pedersen was aware of our social security numbers from our resignation papers. It feels like being attacked and robbedin our own homes. It can only be Jonas who signed us in church offices in Nicholas Parish and Christ Church parish. Use and abuse of fellow man’s social security numbers.
For the Public Prosecutor
We believe this is important news. We cannot believe that it is other than Jonah Serner-Pedersen who has done this. Is it not a matter forthe state's attorney? How can the Public Prosecutor permit vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen peace, to pursue serious misconduct. He violatesour constitutional freedom of religion. I guess it is Jonas who has joined us in church. Who else has taken the right and had the opportunity to do so?!
Daniela was resigned from Kolding Valgmenighed in spring 2012 ... and finds so now to her great shock that she is joined as a member ofthe state church!
She had herself resigned from the state church in Esbjerg October 28, 1997!
I, Lars Krøgholt resigned from the state church, I believe it was in 2001. Now today I checked my final statement from the tax authoritiesstating that I pay 0.97 percent in tax to the church! So I have against my knowledge and will become joined in the state church!
Daniela and I do not understand it! And can such a registration be VALID when we respectively were baptized with the Faith Baptism inEsbjerg Pentecostal Church in October 97 and in the Church in the City in 2007 by the then minister Finn Ravn-Hansen. This can JesperKure, who was present, testify and it was he who was responsible for teaching before baptism!
Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen has completely refused to talk to us
by staying away and not valuing us enough to give us one answer! Daniela’s steady and reasoned request right from the summer of 2012ABOUT acknowledgment that she was resigned by Jonas from Kolding Valgmenighed!
and by providing us with a restraining order!
Daniela Skov got a restraining order, ISSUED 12 NOVEMBER WHICH WAS EXACTLY THE DAY BEFORE THE DEMOCRATIC parish council ELECTIONS IN DENMARK!
He refused to give Daniela a receipt for withdrawal from Kolding Valgmenighed. It is a matter of conscience for her. The Public Prosecutor in Viborg has throughout prevented us from getting in touch with Jonas since 2012, incomprehensible to us as we also citizens of Denmark! Like the pastor we have Constitutional rights.
How can so many be satisfied that Jonas Serner-Pedersen walk around and act like he did? Is there no one who thinks that we are all citizens in Denmark?
Is there any professional pride in the clergy?
Why did bishop of Viborg fail to perform the supervisory duties pertaining to his high office? Jonas Serner-Pedersen himself was well awarethat his great weakness just lay in the administrative area. It is extremely offensive that our freedom of religion is also deprived us most likely of him! In addition, we paid church tax! against our knowledge and private commitments now for 2 years! When we first becameenrolled at the christening we were, curiously enough, babies, and could not protest. Also there we had nothing to say.
It amazes me, moreover, that it is possible to enroll someone in the church without personal consent?
In the judgment which we got after hearing June 13, 2012, our explanation cited:
"The accused and Lars Krøgholt contacted Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen, because he had to send them some papers, but nothing happened. They lacked some resignation papers as well as an acknowledgment of receipt of a resignation."
A question directly to Minister of Justice Karen Hækkerup and Church Minister Marianne Jelved and Finance Minister Bjarne Corydon:
Freedom of religion is a constitutional right. It should be everyone's right not to have to be a member of any church against her will and knowledge. We only know that Her Majesty Queen Margrethe of Denmark has to be a member of a particular church.
Daniela has found out that she has been member of the state church without even having asked to be. She went to a national church pastorto ask about some things Wednesday, May 7, 2014! The vicar advised Daniela to talk to the church office. Parish clerk Substitute looked upDaniela in the church's computer and there was Daniela in a shock, because it was black on white that Daniela had become member of the church.
Daniela has not gone in the past several years and considered whether she has paid church tax from 28 October 1997 when she resigned from the state church. Where is the personal freedom gone? She had no thought about that she again had to pay church tax. When Danielaresigned back then, she had actually money back in taxes. It's not about whether she remains a member of the church or not. It does not concern the pastor at all. Parish clerk Substitute at Sct. Nicolai church in Kolding said that she could resign if she wants to. So she issuddenly back in some deliberation she had not prepared for and cannot manage to use her strength at right at this time. The act ofmisconduct and abuse of power once again.
How had it happened? As we have repeatedly written about the vicar of Hjerm, former pastor of Kolding Valgmenighed Jonas Jacob Serner-Pedersen he refused to issue a receipt for Daniela to be resigned from Kolding Valgmenighed. We believe it is clearly a misconduct of his office.
Now, Daniela has much indirectly received the required receipt since the registration in the state church must have happened while the resignation from Kolding Valgmenighed took place.
Anyone who would doubt and believe that it is Daniela herself, who has been in a church office to join, you may be convinced to the contrary by hearing that Daniela 28 October 1997 resigned at the church Sædden church of conscientious objection reasons. She was baptized with the Baptism of faith in the Pentecostal church in Esbjerg.
I, Lars, looked at my final tax statement from last year, and it turns out that I too have become a member of the church again. I joinedKolding Valgmenighed in 2001. On that occasion I resigned from the state church at the church office in the Christ Church in Kolding. We have written about this in an e-mail about the relationship between church and “valgmenigheder” (kind of free church).
I was baptized with the baptism of faith in 2006 in the Church in the City (Apostolic Church) in Kolding, because I was convinced that I cannot reconcile myself to be baptized in my parents' vicarious faith. I believe in baptism by immersion in water. I believe that baptismshould be based on a personal confession of personal faith.
I was while being baptized member of Kolding Valgmenighed. After my baptism I felt it best to tell about it to my leadership in KoldingValgmenighed. The response I got was, first and foremost, that in this action I resigned from Kolding Valgmenighed - on the assumptionthat when I was baptized in the Apostolic Church, it was probably because I wanted to be a member there. I then said that I had not reallythought about this. Then I was told that when I was baptized (with "adult baptism" which faith baptism is often misleadingly called), I could not be a member of the Kolding Valgmenighed.
I took notice of it, and I got a withdrawal form which I even though did not complete and submit. Only after a long time when Jonas Serner-Pedersen had become a pastor, I delivered this form.
Now I ask then: When you are baptized with the baptism of faith, what about the membership of the state church? An earlier, significantgeneral secretary of the Home Mission (a Danish revival movement from 19th century), Poul Langagergaard said in an opinion piece about baptism, that he who is baptized with the baptism of faith "invalidates my baptism."
One thing is Langgaards position, but how is the state church's position on the issue, and how is the law in this? It can be bishops or the Ministry of church perhaps respond to.
Now comes the question, how can the pastor in Kolding Valgmenighed join a former member of Kolding Valgmenighed in the state church – in addition without asking, against the person's will and without they know it? It is a real, very practical question. Can a “valgmenighed” pastor call the local church office and ask the secretary to join NN in church? Is the membership of the state church just a formality?
Is Jonas, who did it, and - who else could it be?
I would call it extremely offensive and it transcends the personal freedom to be exposed to this.
I once suffered a burglary in the house we lived in. It was an act totally over the boarders. I just now feeling like there has been a break-in at my apartment. That’s the character of the offense I have been exposed to. This is also what we see on TV at the moment in the NETScase. Jonas Serner-Pedersen was aware of our social security numbers from our resignation papers. It feels like being attacked and robbedin our own homes. It can only be Jonas who signed us in church offices in Nicholas Parish and Christ Church parish. Use and abuse of fellow man’s social security numbers.
Not only is it a matter of a membership that Daniela and I have not chosen, it also means we have to pay church tax.
Yes, who else has done it? It's like the police officer who would make not make himself known. It has given us a case on the neck, healthbreak, fines. It belongs at least in a court. We have lost our legality for several years now because of an officer who would not make himself known. It was true what lawyer at Amnesty International Claus Juul wrote that it is not unknown that it was not possible to identify a particular police officer.
We cannot stand idly by if you candidates of bishop - whoever of you that will be inserted after Bishop Karsten Nissen meets us in the same way as Karsten Nissen met us by a non-opaque leadership by holding his hand over his vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen instead of supervising, as is the bishop's official duty. He said to me: "Let's not talk more together," he had spoken with Jonas and had sent me an email confirmingthat we had been a member of Kolding Valgmenighed. The information had nothing to do with our situation. He was not listening very carefully, and it was a useless document was communicated.
I have strong reason to believe that Jonas Serner-Pedersen knew what it was for a document we sought, namely a recommendation, because we told him that we were going to England and asked him to write such a document to us. He had also previously written such a document to Natalie, Daniela's daughter. If this is so, it is strange that Jonas just gives Bishop Karsten Nissen information about when wewere members of Kolding Valgmenighed. We must bring this to a lawyer and get help in it.
Jonas was so crowded in his head in the spring of 2012 because he was in crisis. Daniela told him that others had difficulty, and he replied"yes, it is, of course, it also harms others." As if it just dawned on him. He was without sound judgment, as one is when one is in crisis. It looked at Daniela, she stood with him and talked to him. Jonas is of course only a human being, and of course he responds as another human being in crisis, losing his judgment and being fully knocked out. But that does not justify that he speaks and takes over in Daniela'slife and all, for example by writing "Dear congregation" when he is fired, as if we are just an extension of him. It's disrespectful behavior and gross abuse of office.
We take it in for a lawyer as soon as possible. If we are precluded from finding a Danish lawyer who will help us with this, it becomes an American lawyer, as Daniela's upcoming husband’s rights are deeply offended by Jonas' whereabouts - Daniela has criminal record andcannot apply for a visa to the United States. His adult son's immediate future plans are thrown into the gravel. If he takes an Americanlawyer, it becomes so under U.S. law, a trial must be kept?
Kind regards Lars Skov Krøgholt