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Denne mail sendes også separat til Justitsministeren og Kirkeministeren.
Vi løber konstant panden mod en mur, når det drejer sig om politiets værdige og retfærdige behandling af os.
(Vi fik aldrig lov af politiet til at komme i forhør. Ingen partshøring. Kun Jonas Serner- Pedersen har været inde til interview / forhør. Det blev læst op for os ved RETTEN i HOLSTEBRO. Det er blevet nægtet os på trods af Statsadvokat i Viborg, Margrethe Sanning har sendt vor mail til Midt- og Vestjyllands Politi til videre foranstaltning. VI ER I HELE SAGENS NU 4 ÅRIGE UDSTRÆKNING ALENE DØMT UDEN FORUDGÅENDE FORHØR OG PARTSFORKLARING / PARTSHØRING. Det er overtrædelse af LEGALITETSPRINCIPPET og det trækker Danmark NED under en RETSSTATS niveau og sikkerhed for vi borgere får en retfærdig retssag og dom.
En politibetjent i Midt- og Vestjyllands Politi i Holstebro ringede os op på Sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersens vegne 19-09-2012. Han har holdt sin identitet skjult indtil nu, hvilket betyder at vi har mistet vores lovmæssige retssikkerhed i Danmark, og det er måske også derfor politiet har nægtet os partshøring på trods af Statsadvokatens besked til dem. En politibetjent vist nok en Jesper Andersen – vi har udskrift af forhøret - har været i forhør hos politiet, men de havde valgt at forhøre pågældende betjent om en forkerte dato.
Vi kunne ikke komme i forhør, og klagede til Statsadvokaten. Herfra fik vi denne besked, som nedenfor er gengivet i engelsk oversættelse:
Daniela Skov blev ringet op af Midt- og Vestjyllands politi den 19 september 2012 af en mandlig politibetjent, som behandlede hende groft. Han sagde, at hun var sigtet. Hele den behandling og det chok har forårsaget, at hun har fået PTSD, hvilket er meget alvorligt for hende. Vi har aldrig fået navnet på den betjent, som startede vores sag. Han har nægtet at afsløre sin identitet, til trods for at Jonas Serner-Pedersen jo må vide, hvem den politimand er. Vi har mistet vores retssikkerhed fordi han ikke vil tilkendegive sin identitet. Vi har klaget flere gange over dette til politiet, statsadvokaten og Justitsministeriet og Den Uafhængige Politiklagemyndighed. Men vi er bare blevet ignoreret. Det er alvorligt at miste sin retssikkerhed i Danmark. Da vi klagede til Den Uafhængige Politiklagemyndighed, blev vi ualmindelig dårligt behandlet. En politibetjent Jesper Andersen var i forhør, men om den forkerte dato. De ignorerede bevidst, at vi spurgte efter netop den dato. Hvordan kan politiet have råd til at bruge deres begrænsede tidsressourcer og statsfinanser på den måde mod borgere i Danmark?
Link til forhøret af betjenten: https://goo.gl/8Jrz1J
https://sites.google.com/site/ytrings/2015/oktober/07-10-2015
Grunden til at vi var i retten i Holstebro den 13. juni 2013:
Forudgående havde vi søgt råd hos Kolding retshjælp vedr. bøder, vi havde fået for overtrædelse af polititilholdet. Advokaten der rådede os til at nægte at betale bøderne, for så ville vi blive hørt af en retslig instans. Det skulle vi skrive på politiets papirer, når de kom. Vi havde aldrig fået nogen partshøring og fair behandling, så vi var meget alene, og Daniela havde fået PTSD, og det har været ret forfærdeligt.
I går sendte vi dette ud:
I Dagbladet Information for i går http://www.information.dk/547395 er FORSIDEN viet til temaet at politiet lyver. Det er ikke godt for os borgere og det er magtovergreb, at deres biskop er ligeglad med at han og Jonas benytter sig af politiløgn, så Jonas ikke skal tale med os om sin forfatningsstridige indmeldelse af os i statsreligionen og statskirken som vi udtrykkeligt ikke ønskede at være meldt ind i!
Og vi oplever det meget respektløst mod os og mod borgerne i HJERM at de ikke tager hånd om at få fjernet polititilhold og tager alvorligt, at politiet lyver og nægter os borgere PARTSHØRING på trods af henstilling fra Statsadvokat i VIBORG, Senioranklager Merete Sanning‼
Det falder tilbage på byens kommune, når dens biskop er direkte involveret og holder hånden over politi løgne fra den præst, som det er hans ansvar at føre tilsyn med.
Hvis de frasiger sig at de er en del af politik og samfund, så bliver vi andre bare legetøj for dem. Måske er det derfor de ikke mener de behøver at tage ansvar for de konsekvenser deres liv har i deres medborgeres liv. Det er en total misforståelse. Biskoppen lyver for sig selv om sin og kirkens rolle i politik. Ingen kan holde sig uden for politik. Det er ansvarsfralæggelse, at de tror de kan melde sig ud af samfundet og sige vi har ikke noget med politik at gøre. Indgår vi ikke alle i det politiske liv i vores samfund, blot i egenskab af at være borgere i vort land? Når sognepræst Jonas Serner-Pedersen og biskop Henrik Stubkjær er involveret sammen med politiet i at nægte os partshøring, og i at vi har MISTET vores retssikkerhed som borgere i Danmark, så står biskoppen og sognepræsten ikke som nogen der blander sig uden om politik, men de står som KIRKENS repræsentanter for LOVLØSHED OG ANARKI!!!
Venlig Hilsen Daniela Skov og Lars Skov Krøgholt
ENGLISH TRANSLATION
We are constantly running into a brick wall, when it comes to police dignified and fair treatment of us.
Daniela Skov was called up by Mid and Western Jutland police on 19 September 2012 by a male police officer who treated her roughly. He said she was charged. That whole treatment and the shock has caused that she has got PTSD, which is very serious for her. We have never been given the name of the officer, who started our case. He has refused to reveal his identity, despite the fact that Jonas Serner-Pedersen must know who the policeman is. We have lost our legal rights because he will not give his identity. We have complained several times about this to the police, the public prosecutor and the Ministry of Justice and the Independent Office of Complaints Over Police. But we have just been ignored. It is serious to lose our legal rights in Denmark. When we complained to the Independent Office of Complaints Over Police, we were particularly badly treated. A police officer Jesper Andersen was in interrogation, but on the wrong date. They deliberately ignored, that we asked for just that date. How can police afford to use their limited time resources and state finances in that way against citizens in Denmark?
A police officer in Central and Western Jutland Police in Holstebro rang us up on Vicar Jonas Serner-Pedersen's behalf, 19-09-2012. He has kept his identity hidden until now, which means that we have lost our legal certainty in Denmark, and it is perhaps also, why police has denied us-party consultation in spite of State Attorney's message to them. A police officer Jesper Andersen was in interrogation with the police, but they had chosen to interrogate concerned the PC on a wrong date.
We were never allowed by the police to be interrogated. No evidence by one of the parties. Only Jonas Serner-Pedersen were in for interview/ interrogation. We had this interrogation read to us at the Court in HOLSTEBRO. It was denied us despite that State Attorney in Viborg, Margrethe Sanning has sent our email to the Mid- and West Jutland's police for further measure.
EVIDENCE BY ONE OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES. It is the principle of legality and it decreases Denmark beneath a LEGAL STATE level and security for we citizens receive a fair trial and judgment. WE ARE ALL THESE NOW 4 YEAR EXTENT ONLY JUDGED WITHOUT PRIOR CONSULT AND PART EXPLANATION / CONSULTATION OF INTERESTED PARTIES. It is the principle of legality and it pulls Denmark DOWN during a LEGAL STATE level and BELOW the security that we Danish citizens receive a fair trial and judgment.
The reason why we were in court meeting in Holstebro the 13 June 2013:
Before that we had sought advice from Legal Aid in Kolding concerning fines we had got for violation of the Police Restraint. The layer there advised us to deny paying the fines, then we would be heard by a legal court. This we should write on the police papers when they arrived. We had never been interrogated or had any fair treatment from the police, so we were very much alone. Daniela had got PTSD, and that has been rather terrible.
Kind Regards, Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt.
Yesterday we sent out this:
In the newspaper “Information” for yesterday the FRONT PAGE is devoted to the theme that the police is lying. It is not good for us citizens and it is abusive that their Bishop does not care that he and Jonas take advantage of police lie so Jonas shall not speak with us about his unconstitutional enrolment of us in the State religion and State Church as we expressly did not want to be enrolled in! And we are experiencing it very disrespectful against us and against the citizens of Hjerm that they do not take care of the removal of police restraining order and take it seriously that the police are lying and denying us citizens-PARTY CONSULTATION despite the recommendation of the public prosecutor in VIBORG, Senior Prosecutor Merete Sanning ‼ It falls back on the city's municipality, when its Bishop is directly involved and keeps the hand of police lies from the pastor, as it is his responsibility to supervise. If they disclaim that they are part of politics and society, then the rest of us are just toys for them. Maybe that is why they do not believe they need to take responsibility for the impact their lives have in their fellow citizens ' lives. It is a total misconception that they can sign up out of society and say that we have nothing to do with politics. We are not all included in the political life of our society, just as to be citizens in our country? When the parish pastor Jonas Serner-Pedersen and Bishop Henry Stubkjær is involved together with the police in to deny us the consultation of interested parties, and in that we have lost our legal security as citizens in Denmark, so says the Bishop and the parish priest not as someone who stay out of politics, but they stand as CHURCH representatives of LAWLESSNESS and ANARCHY!!!
With best regards Daniela Skov and Lars Skov Krøgholt
The State Attorney wrote this to us when we complained we had still not been called in for interrogation
STATE ATTORNEY
in VIBORG.
date 07-07-2015
Journal nr.
SAV-2015-42-0601
I have received your email of July 4-20 15, in which you write, that you will
"Continue to complain that police have chosen not to take us in for interrogation in connection to that we were presented with a warning not to contact Jonas Serner-Pedersen."
I have in my decision of July 3-2015 to you among other written the following:
" If you wish to complain about lacking evidence hearing by your part in connection to the Police RESTRAINT order that you received at November 07-2012 , you are asked to contact the Mid- and West Jutland Police, since complains about police dispositions in cases concerning RESTRAINT are treated by the Police Director in 1. Instance. "
I understand your email such that you will complain about that, you were not heard in a hearing of you giving evidence in the case that you got a restraining order in November 2012.
On this background and referring to my decision of July 3-2015, I have sent your email to Mid-and West Jutland Police for further measure.
I'm doing no further on occasion of your inquiry.
Kind Regards,
Margrethe Sanning
Senior Prosecutor
The English translastion is done by Daniela Skov and not from the Senior Prosecutor's Secretary.