Interview Transcript
Warren Somerville

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Ok so what do I do?

So for the purpose of the interview would you state your name and your military rank.

Uh my name is warren Summerville I was in the navy for like a week after the war started till it ended uhhh what else oh I was only umm a yolmen who doesn’t set up the pic picture of allot of guns but believe me there were allot of guns umm

I believe the yolmen is the private rank it’s the beginning rank of the navy

Well of course when you go in your nobody uh and than you take uhh umm they test you every so often you know, so I finally made it up to first class uh than I was so glad to get out of the place (laugh) but anyway (stutter) that’s all I can tell you about that I was in that when they bring you in its like you’ve left a marvelous home a brand new wife uhh and here you are in a room with a lot of guys you don’t even know and than finally after you work your pants off umm and you do go to bed than they’d in the middle of the night they’d get everybody up and you know pretend there was some terrible thing and so you were all out in the cold and whatever and that’s the kind of thing they use to do to you to you finally you gradua you you became a real soldier or sailor or whatever I happened to be a sailor

What war did you serve in?

Ohh (laugh) the a big one uhh what what was it ahh World War II

Where were you stationed?

Ahh which time I ended up at sea in the pacific ahh umm that was a picture it self by the time the war was over and I was released I had to climb on a Ship a great big ship and the only way to get on was they had a net a great big net and I had all my cloths and everything over my shoulder and then I weighed 115 pounds so you could imagine the bag of cloths weighed more than I did so I started up this net and I couldn’t even get on the ship I (laugh) but anyway that’s way ahead


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How has the war changed your life

I think it made me You know I was very young and uhh it taught me allot about people and probably brought me down to earth right when your young you think your pretty important but your not so it really I met allot of great people you know other guys and we all felt the same it was a good experience it really was (laugh) even though it was terrible

So ah what is the initial reason why did you enlist

Well the war had started and you didn’t not enlist you know ah it was ah I enlisted I think the war had started in early mid September and I enlisted before the end of September and they found me and brought me in January (laugh)

While you were stationed how did you keep in contact with family and friends

Well uh it wasn’t as easy before you were on in a regular duty but we did a heck of allot of writing course I had a new wife so I wrote every day

What were the conditions like were you were stationed?

Most places I think were pretty good I mean you know (laugh) its allot different from being Home but umm I think that most of the area places were marvelous the ship was ok to its such a different time of your life you cant complain you know


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Did you sustain any injury’s while you were serving?

(laugh) I was afraid you would ask me that (laugh) well the 2 worst ones were well I have a gash here umm but that was because um I was in a room were I was working on ah the guys papers and stuff and I had sent out for some food or a sandwich or something and this young guy was there and ahh he was going out and he grabbed my sandwich and ah (laugh) he stated out the door so I ran after him than he closed the door on my arm which was all glass so I had a pretty rough arm for a while and the only other really disastrous thing was uhh I had to go to the dentist one day and this was before we were at sea and ah they had a young sailor who helped the dentist you know and uhh the dentist wasn’t like they are today and they had things to do and they went in and they one day one hurt me and my leg went up in the air and kicked the other sailor who was the attending and instead of saying something he just came over and kicked me (laugh) and uh that was my dentist incident

Describe your typical meal in your service

Some of them were pretty good the guys who did that umm cuz being a yeomen on the shh ship or the place you work I was the one who issued if you were on shore they all the permits to leave so they were really extra nice to me (laugh) that way and I uh become very friendly with all the cooks on the ships so I cant really complain about that

What was your initial thought when you were told you were

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Well I hadn’t really had time to think about it because I had just gotten married and uh I think I was in the war 3 weeks after I was married and so I really you know anything like that your young I wasn’t really worried about the war I was more worried about leaving my wife

If you had just gotten married why did you go enlist?

By the time we had just got married well I knew I was gonna leave her anyway you know at 22 years old you don’t stay home from war cuz your married but I we did get married cuz I guess because of the war and umm I don’t know when your in a spot like that id a done anything to be married before the war

What did you do in your spare time?

Well you didn’t have allot of spare time umm especially in my job I uh not only had to take care of all the men’s records and stuff like that but umm I did all the umm the tests you know for getting into another step in the um your class umm I didn’t have a lot of time to worry about but any time id get some sleep

If your kids wanted to go to war how would you feel about that?

Well like any parent you’d be desperate but there’s nothing you can do about it umm I not only had me I had a brother in the army and he was stationed in Europe and you have allot to worry about and you know

Has being in war changed your thought on that? If you hadn’t gone to war do you think you would have a different answer for that?

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I think so I think so yea I think so

Discribe your average day

Oh god (laugh) well the average day was um

I don’t know, you have so many thoughts. I think the first thing is (pause) you think of your home, And you think that when you get back there. (Pause) I don’t know I guess it’s fear like anything. I had one ship, one of my sister ships (pause) the whole rear of it was blown off right where I can see, you know.

What was the most unbearable thing you had to witness?

The worst thing I had to witness?

Yeah, in the war

(Laugh) I don’t know if I should even tell you. You know, (pause) When your in shore and you had liberty and you could leave the ship. When you came back from the ship, in the mess room they would have all kinds of salves (laugh) and things like that in case you had sex. And you would (studdering) and all the guys would be laying their penises on the tables you were going to eat breakfast off. And getting injections to keep them from getting , you know, bad diseases. I think that is the, that was about the most horrible thing for me.

What was life like after you returned home?

(Laugh) Having been married for such a short time, it was quite nice. And then the problems that had a raised was were finding jobs. , and for about a year I worked, where I drove people around. I took an job I could get. And I Had done a lot of in the navy. My wife was a dancer and an actress and before I left I had done, I had written one musical that was performed. And I had done, every summer, I had done summer shows so I knew what I was heading for. What I wanted to do so would take any kind of a job until I got a job like I wanted. And I finally got a job with the American Broadcasting Company about a year after I got home and I was there for Forty-three years.

How did your family feel when you first said you were going to enlist?

Well they didn’t have a lot of time to think about it, you know. I can remember it was a Sunday and I was over visiting Hughette and I knew the moment they said we were at war when I was twenty-two years old, (laugh) I know I would be there pretty soon. So you don’t have time to really think about it, you know.

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If you could go back in time today would there be anything you would change?

I don’t think so, no I think I was very lucky. (Pause) I mean all the guys I met and worked with was, they were all good guys. No I don’t think there were any problems at all. And of course they were extra nice to me because I was the one that gave them their passes to get off the ship (laugh)

Did you form any close relationships while you were, ?

Do you mean friendships?

Yes

Oh yes, yeah, but as time goes by. You know, we were living all over the world. So there were a lot of guys that you liked but they lived about a thousand miles away from you, you know, so you really didn’t see too much of them.

If I was to ask you, how you felt about World War II now that its over and you can look back on it, what feelings do you have about the war.

Well, it’s a war, you know, and actually I hated every minute of it. And all I can say is that I really didn’t run into anybody delighted with it.

Were there like, any dark moments in the war that. What was your darkest moments when you knew you were at war?

You mean the first problems, troubles?

What was your darkest moment in your time of service?

Is there anything that you had to do that, was just a moment in your life that, ?

Oh yeah, there was, yeah. Yeah there were things I had to do. For the, actually, you know, (pause) a lot of things about nature changed with the war, and you know there weren’t very many boys your color (African -Americans) before that. Then they started to hire young men that looked like you. And they would, and would put them in little boats and teach them about saving peoples lives and stuff like that. And one day, three young men, maybe 5 years older than you. They went out on these little boats and one of them had and one of them had three navy boys and one of them fell over and before the thing was over all three of them had fallen, them had jumped into the water to save one another, you know. And unfortunately nobody saved anybody. And they took them to a morgue and they asked me to go (laugh)(veteran becomes emotional) very very hard, to identify them, which I did. And that was the hardest thing I had to do. You know to see young people hurt like that. (Pause)(laugh) im sorry, you brought it up.

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What was the most important lesson you learned during your service?

Well, I think it was what every bodies was, you know. Its respect for each other and (pause) I don’t know, caring, caring for people.

When you think about it know, what was your overall experience in the war?

What was your what kind of experience?

What was your overall experience like just, how would you sum up your military experience?

Good or bad experience overall? No, the overall experience was it was a good experience.

Good experience.

it taught you a lot about living it taught you a lot about people, it taught you a lot about your home.

Describe your most glorious moment during your service.

Were they any glorious moments, moments that just made you?

Oh there many, you mean happyvGlorious moments

describe a glorious moment that just made you, well happy during the war?


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oh yeah, yes there were a lot of those. In fact we were all , on my ship, we were all friendly, you know. As I suppose may of them. And we cared about each other and when it could be it was a very friendly glorious time. I can remember (laugh) going up into the radio room, you know. And we would listen to all the ships sending messages. Sending messages, and as a matter of fact my father in law had an office in the empire state building and I was up there the day the plane crashed into the building, and , so I was kinda worried about my father in law but in a way, it was, I wouldn’t go through it again (laugh) but in many ways it was a great experiance.

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When you went into the war did you feel you had sufficient training?

Professional training

Sufficient, did you feel they trained you enough to put you in the situation they had?

You mean before the boot camp type of thing, I think they did the best they could. Yeah I think they did a lot of good things. Of course it was a pain in the ass at the time but I have no complaint about the way I was handled

Can you describe the training you received

Describe the what?

The Training

Well I can think of anything I wasn’t trained in. I was strapped into guns (laugh) im laughing, as I told you I got very thin, and they put me in this gun, and when the gun moved on the, I went right with it, (laugh) I was up in the air. But , you know, that whole thing was a, your mind was set and you knew what could happen and what couldn’t happen and you tried to make the best of it. And if you didn’t do that you were insane because (laugh) there were many things to drive you crazy.

When you got home did you live your life differently after being in war?

I would imagine so, yes, yes, defiant yes.(laugh)

were there any certain things that remotely changed

for one thing, you learned a lot, you learned about people and you learned a lot about how many of us have the same feelings no matter who you are or what you are, you were a person you know.

How did the war impact your life?

I beg your pardon?

How did the war impact your life?

I think it made me a better person,

how so?

I might have been a pain in the ass, not that I wasn’t at times any way but (laugh) , no I had great respect for people after the war. I didn’t meet anybody in my whole, what was it, three and a half years or something that really wasn’t doing the best you could, I was very lucky.

Were there any souvenirs you brought home from your time served?

Oh yeah, but most of them are gone now, I don’t know where they’ve gone.

What was one souvenir that meant a lot to you?

Well a lot of them weren’t navy. Well we went to too, we were in California before we went into the pacific. My wife had a friend who she had danced with while she was dancing in the movies (phone rings) and Hughette will get it, while we were in California I went out with her and we went to night (phone rings again) clubs and things like that.

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alright we have time for one last question.

What?

One last question

Ooh , I hope it’s a good dirty one.

War in general, what is your initial thought of war,

Well I kept thinking, I think your thinking more of

How do you feel about war when people say

now, then I thought it was even worse. I just find, I think there is no excuse for war, you know, you should be able to solve your problems, the country's problems, the countries but, no I think I was very lucky you know. All I have is two marks on my skin the rest of me is all me.(laugh) you know. I don’t think it was, I think it helped in many ways, it helped make a real person out of you, at least as real as a person can get. I think if you , I don’t know. I didn’t meet one person when I was in the navy who seem to think they were better than anybody. You know, we were all in it together. It taught me a lot, (laugh0 I don’t want to go back and learn more though.

Alright, I think that’s it. Thank you very much

thank you

Your very welcome