Beydalar Yildiz on Shadow

Beydalar tells you 'A question, priest.'

You tell Beydalar 'Hail Warder.'

Beydalar tells you 'If you have the time and inclination for it.'

You tell Beydalar 'I have both Warder.'

Beydalar tells you 'What would you say the "goal" or "purpose" of the Knights of Gareth is?'

You tell Beydalar 'There is a book in our library if you wish to view it Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'It is called the Ethos of Gareth Keep I believe.'

Beydalar tells you 'Something tells me I am a little less than welcome in Gareth's library. *chuckle* And I would like to hear your version of it, if you don't mind telling me.'

You tell Beydalar 'We have a gnomish portal constructed so that any may view it Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'Would you like to see it's location?'

Beydalar tells you 'I don't want a book, I want your answer. What is the Knighthood of Gareth trying to accomplish?'

You tell Beydalar 'We have no central prophecy to guide us Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'Only that we may live by our laws, by our oaths to protect the innocent and such.'

Beydalar tells you 'You are happy with the status quo then?'

You tell Beydalar 'Mainly from the consequences of Evil.'

You tell Beydalar 'I am secure in our purpose Warder, yes.'

Beydalar tells you 'I mean the status quo of Algoron in general. There is nothing you would change about it?'

You tell Beydalar 'to live a moral life by the virtues.'

You tell Beydalar 'I would remove Evil deeds Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'So that our services would be less required than today.'

Beydalar tells you 'I think there is less difference between us than you would like to admit, priest.'

You tell Beydalar 'I would love to know how Warder.'

Beydalar tells you 'I too dream of a world without the strife and turmoil we see now.'

You tell Beydalar 'But only on your terms Warder.'

Beydalar tells you 'Only I have sworn my life to actually accomplishing such a world. You have not.'

Beydalar tells you 'Not my terms.'

Beydalar tells you 'God's terms.'

You tell Beydalar 'We would give those the freedom to live their lives in the absence of evil, you would seek to subjugate and control the destiny of others.'

Beydalar tells you 'And do you not agree that there are many in the world who need to be subjugated? Surely Knighthood agrees to the idea of prisons for criminals?'

You tell Beydalar 'Those who break fair, moral and just laws require punishment.'

You tell Beydalar 'If the law is wrong, then it must be reformed.'

Beydalar tells you 'Could not agree with you more.'

You tell Beydalar 'But we cannot condone a suppressive set of laws which Shadow would impose should Necrucifer return to Algoron.'

Beydalar tells you 'When, not should.'

You tell Beydalar 'You try to make the case that there is no good and evil Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'And that we are the same.'

You tell Beydalar 'But this is not the case. For us, the means are more important than the ends, and for you vice versa.'

You tell Beydalar 'You know this from the Sunset Dawn.'

You tell Beydalar 'I find that too often Evil forgets its purpose.'

Beydalar tells you 'What do means matter if their end is not accomplished?'

You tell Beydalar 'Almost as much as mortal good does not meet its expectations.'

Beydalar tells you 'We have agreed, in essence, that the world needs more Order to it, yes?'

You tell Beydalar 'For Gareth, we reach the correct outcome by doing things in the moral virtuous way.'

You tell Beydalar 'For Storm Keep, you will do whatever is required to see it done.'

You tell Beydalar 'Which is why, as you say, there is no such thing as an honorable evil in Storm Keep.'

You tell Beydalar 'We both claim Law, yes - but to different purpose.'

You tell Beydalar 'We would use Law to protect people from each other. You would seek it to subjugate and control.'

Beydalar tells you 'Subjugate and control those who would disrupt order, yes.'

You tell Beydalar 'Which would be everyone apart from the Shadowknights of Necrucifer in your new world order Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'None will serve under you willingly.'

Beydalar tells you '*chuckle* Why wouldn't they?'

You tell Beydalar 'They would not be free Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'There would be little benevolence from Necrucifer in order for them to enjoy and pursue their lives.'

Beydalar tells you 'They'd be free to work and play, live and love in peace. Many would accept such an offer over the chaos we have now.'

Beydalar tells you 'But it is no matter, you will see for yourself soon enough.'

You tell Beydalar 'There is little peace nor love in Evil Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'And Gareth Keep will intervene should you seek to bring about the return of Necrucifer.'

Beydalar tells you 'We have been seeking nothing less since our inception. You have not slowed our progress.'

You tell Beydalar 'And what progress have you made Warder?'

You tell Beydalar 'I do not think you could even recover an original of Malcom's Prophecies?'

You tell Beydalar 'I have never seen them in print, only much later and written by others.'

Beydalar tells you 'What you speak of is admittedly before my time, but we have made progress nonetheless. Much of it I am afraid I should not speak of, but you need only look to Dojia to see the sort of progress we are making.'

Beydalar tells you 'As I understand it, the crime rate is significantly decreased, we have just instituted a new education initiative for children, whether they come from the richest families or the poorest...'

Beydalar tells you 'And in general, everyone is better fed and healthier.'

You tell Beydalar 'I fear Algoron has little sight of what has happened there Warder. I can see no change.'

Beydalar tells you 'Our own failing, perhaps.'

Beydalar tells you 'Of course, I need not point to the most recent, and most important, gains we have made.'

Beydalar tells you 'The shards we have gained, and the impending death of Nadrik.'

You tell Beydalar 'I concede you have won those battles Warder, but the War is not yet over.'

You tell Beydalar 'Do you have a copy of the Prophecy Warder? I would like to know what Malcom saw for your future.'

Beydalar tells you 'I myself have written a text on what the New World will be like. I will forward you a copy.'

You tell Beydalar 'I would appreciate that.'

You tell Beydalar 'I would encourage you to read the Falsehood of Necrucifer Warder, it is a challenge to the ethos of Shadow.'

Beydalar tells you 'I shall do so. And give you a response to it.'

You tell Beydalar 'I shall publish it next to it.'

Beydalar left you a note: The New World

Beydalar tells you 'There you are. Hope that sheds some light on the matter for you.'

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[108] Beydalar: The New World

Tue Oct 12 15:07:19 2010

To: Caenarfon

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What will the world look like after the Prophecy is fulfilled? Our

enemies would maintain it will be a world of darkness, of servitude,

a dystopian nightmare with no freedom, only slavery. One of endless

suffering for the innocent, endless pain, and no joy.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

To begin with, the future they describe is little different from the

present. The innocent already suffer, there is too much bloodshed

now. It is difficult to even conceive of a world with more

violence and chaos than Algoron has now. We seek to bring order,

peace, prosperity, justice, equality, and unity.

Order. The world is dark and shattered. Bandits and beasts roam

the land, terrorizing the innocent. In the New World, this will be

no more. The beasts will be kept at bay, the bandits will be

locked up.

Peace. Endless wars and strife plague the lands. Kingdom against

kingdom. Empires rise and fall. Needless bloodshed, and the

innocent farmer, sailor, merchant gets drafted and forced to fight

and die.

Prosperity. Prosperity cannot flourish where there is war and

chaos. The most basic services such as farming, forestry, mining,

are all disrupted by stife. Once strife is gone, once we have

peace and order, prosperity is sure to follow.

Justice. Likewise, where new order flourishes, so too new justice

will grow. Those who have complaint against their fellow being

will have that complaint dealt with in an orderly and efficient

process, available to all.

Equality. When all are equal before God's law, we will no longer have

children starving on the street, mother's will no longer need to beg for

scraps to feed their babies. Honest laborers willing to work will no longer

worry about if they will sleep another night on the street. All who work

and follow God's Law will be taken care of by that Law.

Unity. No longer will nation take up arms against nation. No

longer will fanatics fight each other in the street. We will

be one Algoron, united under One God.

Beydalar Yildiz

Warder of the Templar

You tell Beydalar 'Do you think Necrucifer will give you the freehand to create the world you would seek to build Warder?'

Beydalar tells you 'The world that I describe is the one that logically follows from Necrucifer's return.'

You tell Beydalar 'I don't think that you have the insights of Your God at hand Warder. Logic has little place with His Will.'

You tell Beydalar 'I have read it Warder, and it describes a lawful world.'

Beydalar tells you 'But of course it does.'

You tell Beydalar 'Only when you apply the principle of Evil to it does it fail to meet expectations.'

Beydalar tells you 'Hard to argue with someone who apparently knows my beliefs better than I do myself. *chuckle*'

You tell Beydalar 'Evil does not love peace or justice for example.'

You tell Beydalar 'Equality is difficult to equate to evil's selfishness, where the strong shall survive, and the weak perish.'

Beydalar tells you 'Many of the Wrath don't care for peace either. And have very extreme and skewed views on "justice" as well.'

You tell Beydalar 'Unless of course, you do not view yourselves as Evil, or Necrucifer as the Lord of Evil.'

You tell Beydalar 'Justice's methods are crude, but the point lies with guilt and innocence.'

Beydalar tells you 'But that is the central point of equality. All will be given the same chance to succeed. Whether they choose to will be a result of their own internal strength and ambition.'

You tell Beydalar 'Will you not assist those who are not capable Warder?'

You tell Beydalar 'To bring everyone to the same level is equality, not the strongest surviving in the identical setting.'

Beydalar tells you 'I disagree.'

Beydalar tells you 'Why on Algoron should inequal effort be rewarded equally?'

You tell Beydalar 'It is not effort, not capability. Some are more capable than others.'

Beydalar tells you 'And should they be punished for that? No! They should be rewarded for using the gifts God gives them.'

You tell Beydalar 'Their contribution is their reward Warder.'

Beydalar tells you 'Hard to feed a family with that.'

You tell Beydalar 'Evil will seek to demand reward, where good would see it as their obligation of duty.'

You tell Beydalar 'This is ideology though, not economics.'

Beydalar tells you 'I have never demanded reward for my service to God, none of us would dream of doing so.'

You tell Beydalar 'Why do you follow Necrucifer Warder?'

You tell Beydalar 'Is it fear? Respect? Love? What of him inspires you? '

You tell Beydalar 'I hear evil is a fickle master.'

Beydalar tells you 'Because I want to see His return. Because I don't like how the world is now, and think that His return will change it for the better.'

Beydalar tells you 'You've apparently heard a lot of things that are less than accurate.'

You tell Beydalar 'How will having an evil god take control of Algoron make it a better place Warder?'

You tell Beydalar 'Does Necrucifer care for the well-being of the inhabitants of Algoron?'

Beydalar tells you 'He must, else he would not be returning.'

You tell Beydalar 'It would not be for His own ends, to seize power from His hated brother and corrupt every living thing to evil, without morality and without virtue?'

You tell Beydalar 'I cannot see it Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'In an effort to remove the works of Kwainen and Austinian, He might even destroy the world, should He be successful.'

You tell Beydalar 'What use shall He have for the Shadowknights of Necrucifer when He has returned with power? Might they be superfluous? He shall not need them should He return.'

Beydalar tells you '*sigh* It seems you will not believe me. Know that on the day He returns, all will be given one final chance to become a part of His New World.'

Beydalar tells you 'I truly hope you will make the right decision. I will be praying for you.'

You tell Beydalar 'You have more faith in evil and Necrucifer than I could Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'We can meet again like this when you have had time to reflect and gather your thoughts Warder.'

You tell Beydalar 'I do appreciate you seeking me out.'

Beydalar tells you 'Indeed. It has been... interesting.'

You tell Beydalar 'I would be interested to see drak'Martys work if you have it.'

Beydalar tells you 'I will see what I can do.'

You tell Beydalar 'I have never met anyone who knows what the Prophecy is past 'His return'.'

You tell Beydalar 'I have seen one document written by Jaerlach, but I don't put much faith in it being true to the Prophecy.'

You tell Beydalar 'My thanks Warder.'

Beydalar tells you 'I merely extrapolated from how Storm is run. The Dark Lord and Lord Templar have both given my work their blessing.'

You tell Beydalar 'I am glad you speak with authority Warder.'