South of the River

Southwark - Bermondsey  - Rotherhithe

James Pommeroy married Elizabeth Georgiana Alber at All Hallow Barking in 1813


Elizabeth Ann Poneroy  birth: 18 December 1817 christening: 6 March 1818     SAINT DUNSTAN, STEPNEY. father: James Poneroy mother:  Elizabeth. 

this child born 18178 died age 2  buried 25 May 1 1820 in Southwark 


 it  appears to be the James & Elizabeth  moved from Stepney  to Southwark  and  when their daughter died  they were living at Maze in Southwark;  which was situated at the northern end of what is now the London Borough of Southwark ; the site of a manor  marked by Weston Street, Weston Place, Melior Street, Great Maze Pond and Maze Pond. 

 

2nd daughter also called  Elizabeth Ann Pomroy born  10 October 1820 Baptised  31 December 1820  SAINT OLAVE, SOUTHWARK, father: James Pomroy mother: Elizabeth

    found  same record for  Bermondsey which lies between Southwark & Rotherhithe Elizabeth Ann Pomeroy baptised 31 Dec 1820 in Bermondsey to same parents   No other children found . found an Elizabeth Pomeroy buried 1834 at Horselydown)  - no age given - could be mother since 2nd name not given .


1851 James at John Street St George the Martyr Southwark 

James W Pomeroy Head Unmarried age 29 b 1822 Labouringman Southwark, Surrey, England

 Ann Gregory Cousin Unmarried  21 Shoe binder Southwark, Surrey, England 

Hugh Gregory Cousin Unmarried  15 1836 Errand boy Southwark, Surrey, England



 Joseph Pomeroy & Mary Johnson not sure they were  married
- Mary Johnson is on Walters birth record as mother - minus Pomroy 


1836 residence: No. 25 Kings Row Horsely Down Joseph a lighterman 
Joseph born 1771 may be Joseph born 2 Nov 1771 Falmouth Cornwall son of Joseph & Ann Pomeroy


  

Elizabeth Pomroy b 30 April 1836 Bb 27 July 1836 St Olave Southwark father Joseph mother Mary POMROY 

Mary Ann Pomroy born 7 January 1840  Bb 21 June 1840  SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK, father: Joseph Pomroy mother: Mary Johnson

Walter Joseph Pomroy birth: 28 March 1842 Bb 29 May 1842 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,LONDON father: Joseph Pomroy mother:   Mary Johnson


1841 Census Gainsford Street St Johns Southwark.   

Joseph Pomroy age 70 B 1771 of independent means  born Surrey, England

Elizabeth Pomroy   6 1835 Surrey, England  

Mary Ann Pomroy  1 1840                                                Surrey, England mother Mary Johnson

Mary Johnson 40 1801 Surrey, England

Catherine Johnson 12 1829 Surrey, England


Great Maze Court 1939 - its GRIM

Horsleydown Lane was off Gainsford street  - an area that has been 'regenerated'  the old housing  replaced with warehousing  now repurposed as offices or expensive apartments -  renamed Butlers Wharf in C19th 


Horsley Down now called Butlers Wharf

Horselydown Old Stairs - renamed Butlers Wharf

Link to  old map of Streets of London here

2001 searches SOUTHWARK in Surrey South of the River

  C17th C Pomeroys south of the River in Southwark

Ann Pomrey birth: 15 Septe 1648 SAINT OLAVE, SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: Ambarous Pomrey

Sarah Pomrey christening: 8 March 1649 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: Ambarous Pomrey

Aron Pomrey birth: 26 March 1657 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: Ambros Pomrey

Suzanna Pomrey birth: 16 June 1656 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: Ambarous Pomrey

Abraham Pomrey christening:4 December 1664 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: John Pomrey mother: Hanna 

Theophilus Pomrey christening: 20 March 1686 SAINT OLAVE, SOUTHWARK, SURREY, father: Stephen Pomrey mother: Ann

Anne Pomroy christening: 16 December 1688 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: Stephen Pomroy mother: Anne

William Pomry christening: 12 April 1691 SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY, father: Stephen Pomry mother:

 Anne died: 3 April 1692

marriage

Edward Pomeroy marriage: 23 December 1822 Saint Olave,Southwark,Surrey, spouse: Sarah Stone

reference ; FHL microfilm 375313, 375314, 375315, 375316.

Life - On the River-   Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-  Apprenticed

WILLIAM      Pomery  Birth year     - Master John  Ellis  Bound year     1693 20th Oct Place     ROTHERHITHE

Date free     CROSSED OUT Where from notes     Rotherhithe  Source     Binding Records 1692-1949

Record set     Thames Watermen & Lightermen 1688-2010

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Evidence from High Court of Admiralty

May 1653

Thirty-two year old Ambrose Pomeroy of the parish of Saint Olave Southwark deposed, together with John Stevens, a mariner of the parish of Saint Giles Cripplegate London, on May 9th 1653 in the High Court of Admiralty. They were examined "Touching the perishablenesse of the goods landed out of the Hamburg ship the Salvador (Master: Christian Cloppenburgh)." They stated that the wines and tobaccoes landed out of the Salvador "are in a perishing condition" and that "the sooner they are disposed of the better they will be, and will growe worse and worse by longer lying".[1]

November 1653

Twenty-three year old John Burr, waterman and servant to Humphrey Davies, waterman, of the parish of Allhallowes Barking, deposed on November 25th 1653 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined "On the behalfe of Ambrose Pomeroy touching a lighter damnified by a Hull mann".

John Burr stated that in October 1653 a vessel from Hull came foul of a close lighter belonging to Ambrose Pomeroy, close to Porters Key near the Customs House. The lighter, named the Margaret, was laden with hemp. In Burr's account the master's mate of the unnamed ship casued the lighter to drop its cable and to run up againt London Bridge, where she " sate upon the starlins or bottome of the arch in a very dangerous condition, wherby hee verily beleeveth shee receied dammadge".[2]

and several more entries

Ambrose Pomeroy (alt. Pomroy) (b. ca. 1621; d. ?). Mariner. Owner of lighters. Resident in 1653 and in 1656 in the parish of Saint Olave Southwark.

MARINE LIVES 

http://www.marinelives.org/wiki/Ambrose_Pomeroy

entry includes

 ….. John Hodgkins gave detailed information about Ambrose Pomeroy's activities, saying that Mr Hudson, master of the ship the Smirna ffactor "seeing the same cloase lyter lye at Galley Key asked this deponent whose lyter it was and this deponent told him it was one Mr Ambrose Pomeroyes and the sayd Hudson then asked this deponent whether hee knew where the sayd Pomeroy were and this deponent replyed hee thought hee was then in Chesters Key whereupon the sayd hudson told this deponent that hee had a desyre to speake with the sayd Pomeroy and this deponent at Hudsons request went two severall tymes to desyre the sayd Pomeroy to come to the sayd Hudson who at the second tyme came and being come the sayd Hudson in this deponents presence and hearing hyred of the sayd Pomeroy the sayd cloase lyter and agreed to give him two pence a bayle for fine goods for as much as hee could bring (being the ordinary rate allowed by Merchants) and if hee were delayed and hindered above two dayes (wherof that Monday to be one) in ladeing and delivery out of the goods then to give him seaven shillings a day demorage for all the tyme hee should be hindered therein above the sayd two dayes, which bargaine the sayd Pomeroy accepted and about Noone that Monday departed towards the Smirna ffactor to take in the sayd goods and the sayd Hudson in this deponents presence sayd that his the sayd Hudsons man should goe downe in the lyter with the sayd Pomeroys lyterman and that hee had given his sayd man direction to give order to his the sayd Hudsons mate forthwith to lade the sayd cloase lyter whatsoever else hee left undone that shee might come up to Galley Key the next tyde and this deponent sawe the sayd Hudsons man depart in the sayd cloase lyter, and knoweth shee was forthwith laded for that hee sawe her retourne the next morning being Tuesday laden to Galley Key."

July 1655

Ambrose Pomeroy was the respondent to a libel brought in the High Court of Admiralty in 1655 by Gyles Travers. The cause was "Travers against Pomeroy and against lighter of about 200 tunns whereof the sayd Pomroy is owner and against any other".[6]

Francis Gittings, a winecooper of Seething Lane in London, deposed on July 24th 1655 in the High Court of Admiralty in support of Travers. Gittings described the unlading of Canary wines by lighter from a ship named the John and Mary of London (Master: XXXX). The wines were put on board a lighter, whose master was Thomas Tailor, and carried to Buttolphs wharf. The lighter was moored obernight at the wharf and laid there in safety between 11 o'clock in the evening till 5 in the morning.[7]

That's when the problem started. Gittings stated that "after the said lighter came and was moored at Buttolphs wharfe aforesaid having the said wines aboard her

the arlate Pomroy had thereabouts a Lighter of about 80, or 100. tunns which was there moored and lay a head of the said Tailers lighter wherein the said wines were". Gittings alleged that Pomeroy or some of his company carlessly veered his own lighter "with a strong ebb of tide". Gittings and another cooper, who were both on board Tailor's lighter, cried out "telling them they had a great quantity of Spanish wynes aboard, and that if they veerd upon them they would breake their hawser whereby the said Spanish wynes would in all probability bee lost or very much damnified".[8]

Pomeroy's behaviour and that of his company was poor. In Gittings' words "the said Pomroy or some of his companie answereing rudely and uncivilly (the particular words this deponent doeth not now remember) they or some of them did carelessly and wilfully veere the said lighter and in the said veering first came fowle of and splitt the shipps boat to which the said Tailors Lighter wherein the said Spanish wynes were, and broke her hawser and set her adrift".[9]

Gittings claimed that as a result of the lighter breaking its hawser and being set adrift, one of the pipes of wine on it were staven and lost, wi£30 on the London market.[10]

AGE 32 IN 1653 = EDB 1621

Ambrose Pomeroy

"Peter Perkins against the vessell} called the Cabbidge man o

which Cornelius Cason is Master} and her Tackle et cetera and against the} said Cason and all others et cetera} Budd}

Friday the ninth day of May 1656 before the [?same] Judge et cetera Appeared the said Budd for the said Cornelius Cason and Company and made himselfe partie for them and alleadged that the said shippe

called the Cabbidge man did at the time of the arrest in this behalfe made and still doth belonge unto him and produced for sureties Robert Gate of the parish of Saint Dunstans in the East London Grocer and Ambrose Pomeroy of the parish of Saint Olaves"[1]

This Ambrose is not the son of Thomas of Ingsdon - that Ambrose died in 1645 & was buried in Ilsington parish Devon.