The Figgs, the Shaws
& the Moutries
research in progress
From my Paternal Grandparents backward
Into the past
Lewisham 1907
Kate Figg born 1882 one of the 5 children of James Figg a Head Gardener & his wife Jane SHAW in 1907 she married in Lewisham to
Percy David Randall Cook a railway clerk born 1883 , 2nd son of the 5 children of Henry Cook a Master Butcher & his wife Mary Ann Elizabeth JAMES
Percy & Kate were my grandparents,
PERCY David RANDALL COOK age 24 (railway) Clerk and Kate Figg, age 25 married 16 May 1907
The marriage certificate gives details signed by William Ellis , James Figg & Alice Figg his daughter who was only 5 ; James was a head gardener living at 21 Davis Road Forest Hill London; Percy's father was Henry J Randall Cook, master butcher.
HENRY COOK b Wareside & his wife Mary Ann Elizabeth JAMES b 1854 in Stepney were married 1879 in Lambeth ~
James Figg gardener living at 21 Davids Rd Forrest Hill,
son of James Figg Bb 7 Jan 1849 in Ockley & his wife Mary Jane (Herne)
was married in 1875 to Jane SHAW in Lewisham
James Figg son of James Figg and Mary Anne baptised 7 Jan 1849 in Ockley
JAMES FIGG Jan Feb March 1875 married Jane SHAW in Lewisham
Jane Shaw born 1854 daughter of CHARLES SHAW
CHARLES SHAW July Aug Sept 1852 married Elizabeth Moutrie West London
Elizabeth Moutrie born & baptised dau of John Moutrie and Elizabeth in Chatham 15 May 1825
His grandfather, my great greatfather, may have been
James FiGG Prize Fighter born 1734 who died age 50 in 1784
Willow
28-30 Willow Way Sydenham Rd
Charles Shaw wheelwright 33 Willoughbys Cottages,
2 Willow Way 1855 1869 "Aspinall (1867) -
Charles Shaw wheelwright (1861-1881); coachbuilder (1891-1901) abt 1829
Willoughbys Cottages Willow Walk 1855 1871 Wigton Villas, 1 Wells Road 1880 1881
General Moutrie
AJP does not know if there is a connection but MoUTRIE is a pretty unusual name
Foremost has to be General William Moultrie 1785
Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 22 Piece number 62
This interesting name is now mainly Scottish in origin, and can be found in the variant forms 'Moultrie', 'Moutray' and 'Mutrie'.
One Henry Multrar, burgess of Edinburgh, witnessed a Charter of Grothill (now Greenhill, a suburb of Edinburgh), in the reign of David 11 (1329-1371).
The General Register House in Edinburgh is built on the site of the 17th Century Moutray estate.
General William Moultrie, governor of South Carolina from 1785-1787 and 1794-1796, was the son of a Scottish physician, Dr. John Moultrie..
John Moutrie 1729 -1798 was born in South Carolina to a Scottish father, John Moutrie (1702-1771), himself a graduate of Edinburgh University, who was both a general practitioner and an indigo planter.
He fought on the the British side during the American War of Independence which pitted him against his brothers Thomas and William, both patriots. When Florida was returned to Spain following the defeat of the British forces, Moutrie lost much of his property.
He went into exile in England, settling in Shifnal, Shropshire, where he died in 1798.
Moultrie was the first of 117 American students to graduate from Edinburgh's Medical School by the end of the eighteenth century.
These included his second son James Moutrie (1766-1813), the third generation of Moultries to qualify M.D. at Edinburgh.
James Figg was born in Thame, 1684 -1734 possibly in Priest End in Thame to Francis and Elizabeth Figg, one of seven children. His proud boast was ‘Here I am Jemmy Figg from Thame. I will fight any man in England.’
James Figg whom popular opinion believes lived in a row of cottages in Priestend.Thame
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/james-figg-the-first-champion.546249/
Figg may be regarded as the first boxing champion, but he was also the first boxing coach, manager and promoter and a true all round fighter, though he was as proficient with a stick and sword as with his fists.
James Figg was 50 when he died in 1734 and left a wife and many children, one of his grandsons also became a Boxing Champion some years later.
James Figg christening:17 May 1717 OCKLEY, SURREY, father:James Figg
James Figg christening:2 February 1752 OCKLEY, SURREY, father:John Figg mother:Susanna
James Figg Christening 25 Jun 1809 OCKLEY,SURREY, Father John Figg Mother Anne
James Figg christening:17 May 1717 OCKLEY, SURREY, father:James Figg
James Figg christening:2 February 1752 OCKLEY, SURREY, father:John Figg & Susanna
James Figg Christening 25 Jun 1809 OCKLEY,SURREY, Father John Figg mother Anne
James Figg christening: 7 January 1849 OCKLEY, SURREY, father: James Figg; mother: Mary Ann
James Figg birth:1849 death:age 82,1931 Lewisham, London,
The Moutries
Elizabeth Moutrie born & baptised dau of John Moutrie & wife Elizabeth in Chatham 15 May 1825
John Moutrie Born circa 1783 Marylebone London Midsx - Colour Sergeant in 57th reg of Foot enlisted 31 Aug 1803 age 20 served 22 years & 70 days discharged the regiment at Chatham on 8th Nov 1825 age 42.
Appearance 5’10” brown hair, grey eyes, fair complexion previous occupation labourer
a soldier & occasional TEA dealer suggests time spent in India to me !
John Moutrie married Elizabeth Lloyd in west London inJohn Moutrie Born 1783 Maylebone London Midsx - Colour Sergeant in 57th reg of Foot enlisted 31 Aug 1803 age 20 served 22 years & 70 days discharged the regiment at Chatham on 8th Nov 1825 age 42.
Appearance 5’10” brown hair, grey eyes, fair complexion previous occupation labourer
Colour Sergeant John Moutrie Admission as Chelsea Pensioner 23 Nov 1825 Dorking south London served in 57th Reg Foot - 1849 Deptford
Admission to Chelsea Pensioners 23 Nov 1825 1875 Moutrie in Brighton served 57 Reg of Foot died 24 /4 /1875
Census 1841 South Street Dorking
John Moutrie 55 1786 Occ TEA dealer (born London Middlesex)
Elizabeth Lloyd Moutrie 40 1801 (born Jersey Channel Isles)
Elizabeth Moutrie 16 1825 born Chatham married 1852 to Charles Shaw
Jane Moutrie 13 1828 Surrey, England
James Moutrie 10 1831 Surrey, England
David Moutrie 7 1834 Surrey, England
Thomas Moutrie 4 1837 Surrey, England
Maryann Moutrie 2 1839 Surrey, England
Susannah Moutrie infant Surrey, England. in 1861 Assist to Linen Draper Kensington
1851 Census Elizabeth Moutrie age 27 house servant to George Stone Corn & Coal merchant in High Street Ewell Surrey
1851 Croydon Charles Shaw 22 coach wheelwright b Reigate lodger With Henry Mead coach maker
1851 South Street, Dorking, Surrey, England
John Moutrie Head age 67 B 1784 Chelsea Pensioner Dealer In Coals Born Marylebone, Middlesex,
Elizabeth Montrie Wife 51 B 1800 Jersey, Channel Islands
David Montrie Son 17 B1834 Errand Boy Dorking, Surrey, England
Thomas Montrie Son 15 B 1836 Errand Boy Dorking, Surrey, England
Mary Ann Montrie Dau 13 B 1838 Scholar Dorking, Surrey, England
Susannah Montrie Dau 11 B 1840 Scholar Dorking, Surrey, England
Charles Montrie Son infant B 1851 Dorking, Surrey, England
1851 Census Elizabeth Moutrie age 27 house servant to George Stone Corn & Coal merchant in High Street Ewell Surrey
1861 Church Street Dorking
John Moutrie head age 77 B 1784 Clerk And Tea Dealer Born London, Midx,
Elizabeth Lloyd Moutrie Wife 61 B 1800 b Jersey, Channel Islands
Elizabeth Moutrie 1825 married Charles Shaw in 1852
Jane Moutrie 1828
James Moutrie 1831
David Moutri 1834
Thomas Moutrie 1837
Maryann Moutrie 1839
Susannah Moutrie 1841
Charles Moutrie 1851
CHARLES SHAW in 28 Sep 1852 married Elizabeth Moutrie in West London Charles Bb GRO Ref 1c 1261
Charles born 1823 He may have been born somewhere other than the given Reigate – Ive come across it before - if the family moved when he was little he might not know .
Elizabeth Moutrie born & baptised dau of John Moutrie & wife ElizabethLloyd his wife in Chatham 15 May 1825
1851 Census ?? Elizabeth Moutrie age 27 house servant to George Stone Corn & Coal merchant in High Street Ewell Surrey
1851 Charles was in the household of a coach maker which he later became
1852 Elizabeth Moutrie married Charles Shaw in West London GRO ref,1C126
Charles Shaw son of Simon Shaw married Elizabeth Moutrie dau of John Moutrie Residence Holborn, Middlesex, Marriage date 28 Sep 1852
1861 Fendders Row, Willow Walk, Lewisham, London & Kent, ( see images below right)
Charles Shaw Head 38 B 1823 Wheelwright Reigate, Surrey,
Elizabeth Moutrie Shaw Wife 35 1826 Wheelwright wife Chatham, Kent,
Jane Shaw Dau 7 B1854 Scholar Sydenham, Kent, died 1900
Esther Shaw Dau 3 B 1858 Sydenham, Kent, England
James F Shaw Son 4 B 1857 Sydenham, Kent, England
Charles Moutrie 10 B 1851 Scholar B Dorking, Bro' to wife Eliza
George Gadd UnM 24B 1837 Wheelwright Cranley, Surrey, England
James Figg son of James Figg and Mary Anne baptised 7 Jan 1849 in Ockley
James Figg age 12 b 1849 Lodger at Stone Street, Ockley, Dorking, Ag Lab Ockley, Surrey, England
JAMES FIGG B 1849 married to Jane Shaw b 1854 in the 1st ¼ 1875 in Lewisham
Colour Sergeant John Moutrie 1825
28 & 30 Willow Walk
WORK IN PROGRESS
The Shaws
Thomas Shaw son of William & Mary Shaw Bb 21 Aug 1763 in Horsham
Thomas Shaw son of Mary 8 Oct 1809 Horsham
Thomas Shaw son of Hannah bb 7 Sept 1817 Horsham
Other male Shaws in Horsham Edward, Charles ,George , James. John , Joseph
Mary Shaw Bb 19 Nov 1780 da of Thomas & Ann Shaw in Nuthurst 3 miles from Horsham Sussex
and FMP has 294 responses to 1800+/- 40 years
Thomas Shaw married Anne Charman in Horsham 3 Sept 1781
Hannah Shaw Bb 1787 dau of Thomas & Ann
Mary Shaw dau of Thomas & Ann Bb 23 March 1796
Simeon Shaw Bb 1800 son of Thomas Shaw & Ann in Horsham
Brother Thomas born 1804 son of Thomas Shaw & Ann in Horsham
3 Simeons
Shaw Simeon 11 March 1800 Baptism son of Thomas & Ann in Horsham, Sussex, England
Shaw Simeon 1810 25 Nov 1810 Baptism son of James & Sarah in Nuthurst, Sussex,
Shaw Simeon B 1826 Bap 1827 28 Sept 1827 Baptisms son of Simeon & Ann in Horsham Non conformist baptism with half brother Caleb born 1823 to his father's 1st wife Elizabeth
1823 One of these Simeon Shaw married Elizabeth Agate 8 Feb 1821 WARHAM Surrey 2 miles from Horsham
1825 Simeon Shaw widower married Ann Page St George the Martyr Southwark
Not sure if this is the same chap - Southwark is some 35 miles from Horsham
BUT the Non Con baptism of 1827 suggest it is – He married his 2nd wife Ann Page before this baptism
1838 Mary Ann Worsfold might have called herself Ann ; This one we can be certain of because of the certificate gives us his father
Although age 38 he describes himself as a bachelor not widowed.
Born Nuthurst Bb 25 Nov 1800 son of James & Sarah Shaw
In 1838 Simeon Shaw age 38 son of James married MaryAnn Worsfold age age 19 (born 1819) a Spinster; housemaid both employed/ living at Rome Farm dau of Benjamin Worsfold labourer Married by banns in Dorking 11 Feb 1838
Mary Anne was dau of Benjamin Worsfold & his wife Phillis born 1819 at Capel in Surrey
From Jenny B & Ancestry
Census 1841 Hatchland Surrey
Simeon Shaw 46 not born Surrey a wheelwright
Ann wife 45
Children
Charles Shaw 12 ,EDB 1929
by 1st wife Elizabeth
Zipporah 11 , who married one of the apprentices
Will born 1830 to 2nd wife Ann Page Shaw
William 9,
Esther 7,
Ephraim 4 by 2nd wife
Plus an apprentice Ben Branford ? Age 15
Mary Ann who was 19 when they married produced one child before he died
CHARLES SHAW in 28 Sep 1852 married Elizabeth Moutrie in West London Charles Bb GRO Ref 1c 1261
1851 Census There is an Elizabeth Moutrie age 27 house servant to George Stone Corn & Coal merchant High Street Ewell Surry
1851 Croydon Charles Shaw 22 coach wheelwright b Reigate lodger With Henry Mead coach maker
1852 Charles Shaw son of Simon Shaw married Elizabeth Moutrie dau of John Moutrie (& his wife Elizabeth Lloyd from Jersey) Residence Holborn, Middlesex, Married 28 Sep 1852
1841 Census Hatchlands, Reigate, Surrey,
Simeon Shaw 40 1801 - wheelwright
Ann Shaw 45 1796 Surrey, England
Charles Shaw 12 1829 Surrey, England
Zipporah Shaw 11 1830 Surrey, England married William Brabbridge the next apprentice in 1852 in Reigate
William Shaw 9 1832 Surrey, England
Esther Shaw 7 1834 Surrey, England
Ephraim Shaw 4 1837 Surrey, England
Benjamin Banfort 15 1826 - apprentice
1851 Reigate Reigate Foreign
Simeon Shaw Head 51 1800 Wheelwright Nuthurst, Sussex, Eng
Ann Shaw Wife 57 1794 - Horne, Surrey, Eng
William Shaw Son UnM 18 1833 Wheelwright Reigate, Surrey,
Ephraim Shaw Son UnM 14 1837 Wheelwright Reigate, Surrey, Eng
William Brabbridge 23 1828 Blacksmith Banstead, Surrey, married Zipporah
1861 Simeon not found
1871 Next generation Publican
Reigate Road (The Forresters), Reigate Foreign, Reigate, Surrey, England
William Shaw Head - 38 1833 - Surrey, England
Maria E Shaw Wife - 39 1832 - Surrey, England
Mary Ann Shaw Dau 11 1860 - Surrey, England
Simeon Shaw Son 8 1863 - Surrey, England
Jephtah Shaw Son 3 1868 - Surrey, England
Ephraim Shaw Son 1 1870 - Surrey, England
Charles Shaw son of Simon Shaw married Elizabeth Moutrie dau of John Moutrie Residence Holborn, Middlesex,on 28 Sep 1852
They had 9 children
1861 Fendders Row, Willow Walk, Lewisham, London & Kent, England
Charles Shaw Head 38 1823 Wheelwright born Reigate, Surrey,
Elizabeth Moutrie Shaw Wife 35 1826 born Chatham, Kent, England
Jane Shaw Dau 7 1854 Scholar Sydenham, Kent, died 1900
Esther Shaw Dau 3 1858 Scholar Sydenham, Kent,
James F Shaw Son 4 1857 Scholar Sydenham, Kent, England
Charles Moutrie B-in-L Elizb'th brother 10 1851 Scholar Dorking, Surrey,
George Gadd UnM 24 1837 Wheelwright Cranley, Surrey,
FIGG FAMILY
JAMES FIGG 1875 married Jane SHAW in Lewisham
Jane Shaw born 1854 daughter of CHARLES SHAW
CHARLES SHAW July Aug Sept 1852 married Elizabeth Moutrie West London
Elizabeth Moutrie born & baptised dau of John Moutrie and Elizabeth in Chatham 15 May 1825
WO 97/1118/13 Description: JAMES FIGG Born OCKLEY, Sussex
Served in 2nd Royal Veteran Battalion; 4th Royal Veteran Battalion; 31st Foot Regiment Discharged aged 43 Date: 1793-1815 EDB 1772
James Figg (1684 – 7 December 1734) an English bare-knuckle boxer. He is widely recognised the first English bare-knuckle boxing champion-
James Figg was born in Thame, 1684 -1734 possibly in Priest End, Thame son of Francis and Elizabeth Figg, one of seven children.
His proud boast was
‘Here I am Jemmy Figg from Thame. I will fight any man in England.’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Figg
James Figg son of James Figg and Mary Anne baptised 7 Jan 1849 in Ockley
JAMES FIGG Born OCKLEY, Sussex Served in 2nd Royal Veteran Battalion; 4th Royal Veteran Battalion; 31st Foot Regiment Discharged aged 43 Date: 1793-1815
JAMES FIGG 1st ¼ of 1875 married in Lewisham to Jane Shaw b 1854
Their daughter Kate married Percy David Randall Cook in 1909 my fathers parents
Their daughter Ruth married Henry /Harry Randall Cook