C17th Naval Pomeroys



The rating of a ship was an indication of quantity rather than quality ; it refers to the number of guns, which in turn decided the crew size & therefore the stores & supplies.   Thus a 3rd rate ship was smaller with fewer guns than a 1st rate one.
A full-rigged ship first-rate ship of the line was 1298 tons & had 96-guns.    

ENGLISH CIVIL WAR 1642-1651

 His Majesty's Ships for the Irish Sea, Summer Guard 1642.

From Naval research    CH Donnithorne  c/o Royal Naval Museum Library  HM Naval Base (PP66), Portsmouth,  PO1  3NH  England

 WILLIAM POMEROY FROM 1661 UNTIL 1663 CAPTAIN.  Kings Ships  Summer Guard 1642

Merchant ship  600 tonn   LONDON with a crew of 180 with  Capt. John Stephens,  & Lieutenant Pomeroy     

Source: The Calendar of State Papers Domestic 1642.  The Portsmouth Papers No. 7.  Penn 1. 22.  Lords Journal 5. 379.Report by: William Batten, Surveyor of the Navy, early 1642.  English History Review, ix. 96. Oppenheim.

 OTHER POMEROYS from Powley 1944 book THE HOUSE OF DE LA POMERAI by Edward B. Powley [University Press of Liverpool; London].
( from pages sent to  AJP in 2003 by Thom Montgomery PHd)

 WILLIAM POMEROY Master of a sailing vessel of Stonehouse Plymouth in 1625 sailing with letters of marque.

OWEN POMEROY in 1630 master  of  a craft with a similar licence

 WILLIAM POMEROY & Benjamin Cloak 1631 asked the Privy Council for release from Marshalsea (debtors Prison) and secured it.

 General George Monke had connections

(BHOL) In DEPTFORD ,on the Thames,  in the old church of St. Nicholas on the floor are the tombs of  Capt. George Pomeroy, 1724; and Capt. George Pomeroy, of the yacht Catherine, 1735his daughter, Sarah who  became  wife of Nicholas Roope, Gent. died 1741; (the other daughter , Mary married Alexander Lowe, Gent.)
George Pomeroy British Naval Sailor born about 1682 ADM 107/1 First Known Service 6.1.1690/91 CSORN Daughter  Sarah [Roope] (d.1741) ref:1627 Last Known Service 1735.

AJP NOTE Nicholas Roope was member of an ancient family from Dartmouth Nonconformist,  married Jane Pomeroy daughter of Valentine Pomeroy by his 1st wife Jane Reynell in 1643 obviously not the same couple but is there a direct connection??

THOMAS POMEROY made lieutenant 1761/08 /04

https://sites.google.com/site/pomeroytwigs2/home

10 July 1690 The Battle of Beachy Head between England and the Dutch against the French - the French won.

GEORGE POMEROY made Lieutenant 12 Jan 1688 made Captain  24 June 1690   He was Captain of HMS RUPERT the 66 gun 3rd rate ship of the line.,He died of wounds 30th July 1690 received at the Battle of Beachy Head.  

George  was son of Capt William Pomeroy  the late commander of the West;(Civil Wars)   his wife was Elizabeth by whom he had three children Rachell Browne ( marriage not yet found) 

Three days later the French fleet  sailed into Torbay, and On the 13 of July the French fleet was seen riding at anchor in Torbay, where all the forces of Devon were drawn up to oppose their landing. Instead  They  came ashore to burn and plunder the little fishing town of Teignmouth.

JOHN BENBOW entered the navy on the 30th April 1678 and age 25 was Master’s Mate on board HMS Rupert.  In the summer of 1690, while Master of HMS Sovereign, he acted as Master of the Fleet up until the end of the English-Dutch defeat at the battle of Beachy Head, and his evidence helped to acquit Admiral Lord Torrington at the subsequent court martial.

George Pomeroy Resident of Kent PROBATE  6/66 f.149  / 27 Aug 1690

Admin . to Eliz. Pomeroy, wid., rel. (Admon. d. b. n. Nov. 1699)

Piece Number   66  / Folio 149 Record set   PCC Administrations 1660-1700


 George  Pomeroy   Deptford, Kent. died on "Le Rupert." 1690 Archive reference 

PROB 6/75 f.193  Piece No: 75  Nat Arch Folio   193

PCC Administrations 1660-1700

Administration  to Rachael Browne his daughter wife of  James Brown  

Prev. Admon. (Aug. 1690) to Eliz. P., widow 

 

Rachel Pomroy married James Brown in St Nicholas Deptford  4 Nov 1696

West Kent Marriage  St Nicholas, Deptford marriages 1571-1812


Elizabeth Pomeroy wife  - still looking for marriage 2023

note The Battle of the Boyne in Ireland  took place on 1 July 1690  when the forces of the Protestant William of Orange defeated the army of the Catholic James II whose army consisting mainly of raw recruits.


St Leonard's Church, Deal, KENT. Here lieth the Body of Captaine George POMEROY late Commander of their Majestie’s Ship the Rupert, who received. his mortall Wounds in an Engagement against the French off Beachy; and departed this Life the 25th Day of July 1690 in the 39th Year of his Age, leaving behind him his Wife Elizabeth and 3 Children.

 Calendar of State Papers Colonial, America and West Indies, BHO

Capt. Whitney to Governor Hamilton. St. Christophers. Rose. wrote

March 31st.  1721    Capt. Pomeroy has seized two French sloops of some valew. We believe there's proof enough to make them prizes, if thears fear play done us etc. If they be condemned, you shall find (notwithstanding what sicophants may say to you) we shall behave in that case very justly in what shall relate to you. I sho'd gone to Windward ere this but expected advice of that Spaniard which I judge by enquiry from Holladay to be a Guard d'Costa. Signed, Thomas Whitney. Same endorsement. Copy. 1 p.

..... the London ship arrived for St. Christophers, and returned not till the 26 April, and then would not come into the Road or Harbour of Saint Johns as usual, but anchored in a more remote place from thence he sent me a letter by Capt. Pomeroy with an information that he believed the Great Pirate Roberts was cruising off Desseada and that so soon as the Shark joyned him he would cruise in quest of said Roberts in the tract of Barbados where afterwards he would victual and desired to know if I had any commands that way whereupon I sent him a letter by Captain Porneroy with information that several ships were daily expected to these Islands, and therefore I had sent him written orders to cruise to windward of Desseada between that Island and Barbouda that being the most likely place to meet pirates and to protect the trade from their insults. I also ordered him not to go to Barbados unless necessity required but to return to this Island in order to carry me to leeward, but what regard that Gentleman will have to these orders time only can determine. Thus your Lordships may perceive that I am confined by Captain Whitneys capricious temper, and am disabled from visiting the other Islands tho' H.M. affairs and service require my presence never so much there. Signed, W. Hamilton. Endorsed, Recd. 28th July, Read 14th Sept., 1721. 5½ pp. Enclosed,

HMS St Andrew before it was renamed the ROYAL ANNE
The Royal Anne
HMS St Andrew was a 96-gun 1st Rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, built at Woolwich Dockyard by Christopher Pett completed by Jonas Shish, and launched in 1670. 

WILLIAM POMEROY made ​Commander 1661 served aboard HMS Royal Ann​e   was ​a​ Dorset Pomeroy​ who lived​  in Ryme Intrinseca and Bere Hackett .in Dorset :  (christened 14 JUN 1646 Beer Hackett, Father: SAMUELL POMERY ) - born during the Civil War Period he would have been 20 in 1666 and the Anglo Dutch wars.​ ​

In 1703, the St Andrew was renamed HMS Royal Anne, and rebuilt at Woolwich as a first rate of 100 guns. In 1707, she served as flagship of Vice-Admiral of the Blue Sir George Byng and belonged to Admiral Sir Cloudesley Shovell's fleet. She saw action during the unsuccessful Battle of Toulon and was present during the great naval disaster off the Isles of Scilly when Shovell and four of his ships (Association, Firebrand, Romney and Eagle) were lost, claiming the lives of nearly 2,000 sailors.

Scilly naval disaster of 1707 is an umbrella term for the events of 22 October 1707, which led to the sinking of a British naval fleet  off the Isles of Scilly. With four large ships and more than 1,400 sailors lost in stormy weather, it was one of the greatest maritime disasters in the history of the British Isles.

Royal Anne suffered little to no damage and finally managed to reach Portsmouth. see here The Royal Anne was broken up in 1727It was later determined that the main cause of the disaster was the navigators' inability to accurately calculate their position.
Naval personnel . Thomas Pomeroy chursurgeon, on board ' Royal Anne' 

William Pomeroy, Mariner now belonging to His Majesty's Ship Gloucester of Stepney, Middlesex 23 September 1707 PROB 11/49

Dorset a Pocket of Pomeroys

The seaside town of Weymouth lies in the south west of the county of Dorset, with the county town of Dorchester 6 miles to the north. 


 
Thomas Pomeroy chursurgeon, on board ' Royal Anne'  with his brother  WILLIAM POMERY Captain of HMS ROYAL ANNE -
PCC Will  of 13 feb 1770.   his brother  Thomas POMEROY, was chirugeon of Weymouth & Melcombe Regis,
brother Administrator  with  Charles LANGRISH, [illegible] of Weymouth & Melcombe Regis 13 Feb 1709/10 DA/A/1710 39I found Pomeroys living in Weymouth & Melcombe Regis inland at Ryme Intrinseca & at Bere Hackett in Dorset some 25 or 30 miles inland from Weymouth .

14 JUN 1646 baptised at Beer Hackett, William son of  SAMUELL POMERY -  born during the Civil War Period he would have been 20 in 1666 and the Anglo Dutch wars.

 The Will of Anthony SMITH - 24 April 1760 West Lulworth Dorset -(near Swanage & Weymouth).....Rent due to me from William Pomeroy of Greenwich in the County of Kent for my Two Houses in Greenwich aforesaid And also all Moneys due to me from the Custom House at Weymouth for Seizures Sallary or otherwise

Ships of the Line 

New England in the 17TH CENTURY

 In the year 1620 King James 1 granted a charter to the "Northern Company", consisting of the Earls of Arundel and Warwick, other noblemen including Sir Ferdinando Gorges and certain private gentlemen who were called "The council established at Plymouth in the County of Devon for the planting and governing"-" of New England in America." Full details of this patent and its history may be found in the publications of the Maine Historical Society.

Under this patent, on Dec. 1, 1631, the rights "to fowle and fishe" on a grant of land including Cape Elizabeth and Richmond Island were granted being signed by the Earl of Warwick, Edward Gorges and Sir Ferdinando Gorges.

Edward & Sir Ferdinando Gorges.
In the year 1620 King James 1    granted a charter to the "Northern Company", consisting of the Earls of Arundel and Warwick,  other noblemen including Sir Ferdinando Gorges and certain private gentlemen who were called "The council established at Plymouth in the  County of Devon for the planting and governing"-" of New England in America." Full details of this patent and its history may be found in the  publications of the Maine Historical Society.

Under this patent, on Dec. 1, 1631, the rights "to fowle and fishe" on a grant of land including Cape Elizabeth and Richmond Island were granted  being signed by the Earl of Warwick, Edward Gorges and Sir Ferdinando Gorges.
His early involvement in English trade with and settlement of  North America  as well as his efforts in founding the  Province of Maine  in 1622 earned him the title of the "Father of English Colonization in  North America,"[ even though Gorges himself never set foot in the  New World.


Anne Pomeroy  sister of Sir Richard Pomeroy of Berry Pomeroy , children of Henry P & Alice Raleigh -  married  1st of 3 husbands  Robert Buckdockshide and they had at least 3 children their  2nd daughter was Winifred Budockshide  who married Sir William Gorges


A letter from  the wife of Sir William Gorges, the Lady Winifred nee Budockshide , may be seen among the Landsdowne Manuscripts, 109, foL 187. It is as follows: — 

Cousin Hicks, — Though I clame nor know any debt due, yet finding this among many others of greater value, I pray you keep it for a remembrance when occasion shall serve to speak a good word to the Lord Treasurer, who ought to be pricked in confidence to helpe me, considering how many paynfull journeys Mr Gorges served in his chargeable sute & long delayes, what toyle bellowed on the Tower which I nor any of mine might enjoy. If I could have forgotten for every thousand but a hundred, it w<* have pleafea me, though the recompense had been (malle. I have beene & am very ficke, wd fayne go to Bathe to get helthe, but my purse is fo weake I am not able. I lye in an odd corner of my Lady Russiell's as much as I shifte to pay hir rente.

I spoke to my Lord; he will go to His Majelty— a Tutor wanting helthe & money (hall get little at the Courte but more griefe. I hope if any wd remember his Honour, he w*1 shewe some pytyfull favour. If you will be the instrument you (hall ern onner for a recompense, besides the poor widowes prayers. I doubt not but God will prosper you the better for my hartes commendations. bid you farewell. My lodgings by Russell Houfe this VI of April.

Your cos in & friend, Winifred Gorges.  Endorsed: Lord Stafford.


Cousin Hicks may be Thomas Hicks Hext Mayor of Launceston whose granddaughter Jane Hext in 1601 married  Andrew Pomeroy of Collaton in Newton Ferres - very close to Plymouth

On Jan. 18, 1632, Robert Trelawney and Moses Goodyear gave John Winter and Thomas Pomeroy a power of attorney to operate the fisherie and trading post from Cape Elizabeth to the Spurwink River. In the spring of that year, Winter set out for America, arriving on July 21, 1632, when he took possession of Richmond Island from Richard Vines, whom he found living there.

Richmond Island had already figured in the early history of the province. As early as 1624 it was a trading post for George Richmond, hence its name.

This indenture, as will be seen, recites a grant from the Council for New England to Thomson, under date of 16th of October 1622. The records of the Council show no grant to him under that date: but under 16th of November we read, "Mr. Thomson's patent was this day signed by the above said Council." It may have been drawn in the previous month, and the date inserted, but not signed till later.


PLYMOUTH   naval port  and  departure point for the New World

LEONARD POMEROY  1599- by 1629 John Blytheman,  Mayor of Plymouth and another forwarded in September 1598 to the Council Pomerey demanded of his bark sent hence to discover the enemy. The amount asked was £164/13/8 but the bark was not successful (bark = boat) He was named in 1611 as a merchant trading

He was Mayor of Plymouth 1623 24 and we know that Leonard Pomeroy had a Coat of Arms which supports the idea that he was one of  armorial Pomeroys.  He was one of three Merchants from Plymouth who financed the beginnings of a fishing plantation on Richmond's Island in Maine and owned LAND in Maine.

2014 we are now of the opinion that Leonard might have been youngest son of William who was youngest son of Sir Edward Pomeroy d 1538, and his wife Joan Sapcote daughter of Sir John Sapcot 
Their eldest son was Sir Thomas ( " the Foolish" who sold the barony to Seymour died 1566 )  brother of Hugh of Tregony  and William, Edward  & sisters Thomasine & Eleanor.

Abraham Pomeroy East Stonehouse Plymouth died at sea on the frigate Northamptonshire, his will proved at Lambeth 1658

ON SHORE ITEMS RELATED TO  PLYMOUTH POMEROY’S WITH Marine Connections

From  Archives 862/24  1597  Contents:  Lease, Saltram, Plymouth: consideration, £80, rent 40s per year; 1) Sir John Gilbert of Greenway, Devon 2) Leonard Pomeroy of Plymouth, merchant. 862/25  1632 Contents: Partition and Division, Saltram, Plymouth, 12 acres, 2 messuages in Tremill Street (Trevill Street), messuage in New Street, Plymouth; 1) William Pomeroy of Stonehouse, merchant 2) Abraham Pomeroy of Stonehouse, merchant 862/27  1641 Contents:Mortgage in £200, Saltram, Plymouth; 1) William and Abraham Pomeroy of Plymouth, merchants 2) William Hele of Plymouth, merchant862/28  1641 Contents: Bond in £400, Saltram, Plymouth; 1) William and Abraham Pomeroy of Plymouth 2) William Hele of Plymouth

862/29  1650 Contents: Release, Saltram, Plymouth, 12 acres: consideration £227; 1) William Pomeroy of Plymouth, merchant 2) Nicholas Hele of Halwell, Devon, esq

Plymouth Map circa the C17th  English Civil Wars