FitzRafe & Ralegh & Pomeroy
My start point was researching anything to do with Brakkys family
Edith Brakkys dau of William & wife of John Pomeroy of Bockerell , circa 1373
a cadet Pomeroy line in East Devon Clistwick & Upottery & Smallridge
Edith Brakkys dau of William & wife of John Pomeroy of Bockerell , circa 1373
a cadet Pomeroy line in East Devon Clistwick & Upottery & Smallridge
I thought this might just be another genealogical garden path......
But some of it grew buds and flowered
But some of it grew buds and flowered
Geoffrey Pomeroy of Clistwick Brandon, or Bradnich near Exeter, & Cheriton in north Devon was 2nd son of the 3rd successive Sir Henry by his wife Alice de Vernon
Powley gives us Geoffery de la Pomerrai who married Matilda de Ralegh daughter of William de Ralegh- presumed parents of Henry of Upottery circa 1257; also called Henry of Bokerel and his brother William who married Joan Alelegh (Hawley) of Allaleigh in Cornworthy South Hams near Totnes)
Anne daughter of Sir John Pomeroy married Sir John Rawley (Ralegh) of Fardel son of Sir Henry Rawley and his wife Agnes Lambourne.
The nearest date I can find is for her mother Agnes Lamborne Rawley born 1292 -
Could that connect to Sir John Pomeroy in East Devon who married Edith Brakkys .
A2A Date: 1452-1454 Subject: Manor of Yaxham. Norfolk.
Plaintiffs: John Curson, knt. Defendants: Thomas Brakkys, of West Bradenham, feoffee of James Curson.
no issue mentioned in Visitations
BRAKKYS - Only record found in National Archives A2A
C 1 - Court of Chancery: Six Clerks Office: Early Proceedings, Richard II to Philip and Mary
Date: 1452-1454 Ref C 1/19/415 Short title: Curson v Brakkys. Plaintiffs: John Curson, knt.
Defendants: Thomas Brakkys, of West Bradenham,(Norfolk) feoffee of James Curson.
Subject: Manor of Yaxham. Norfolk
There is also mention of a record, in Latin History of the parishes of West & East Bradenham
a Google Translation gives us ..
Deeds relating to land called "West Rudd," Sec. 1458-9.
2023 research shows that Yaxham & Bradeham belonged to the Bardolf family ..
William Bardulf, was Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk ,from 1170 to 1176. & Rose or Rohesia ,one of his daughters married the 1st Sir Henry Pomeroy,
Who was Sir John Pomeroy whose daughter Anne married Sir John Ralegh ?
Could he be John 4th son of Baron Sir Henry Pomeroy (1291-1367) & his wife Johanna Moels dau of Sir John Moels of the feudal barony of North Cadbury in Somerset
2 generations later her descendant Joanna Raleigh Widow of Sir John Whalebrorough married Sir Thomas Pomeroy (Troublesome Thomas) as his 2nd wife , his 1st Wife Joanna Chudeligh heir the the Pomeroy Barony having died in 1423
A Sir William Pomeroy married Alice FitzRaf , (Unnamed in the pedigree , and her sister Elizabeth married Robert Chamberlain in 1457 in Kingston, Cambridgeshire.
AJP discovered her name by looking at her sister's family.
There are Whalesboroughs in the Fitz Rafe pedigree -
She turned out to be Alice Fitz Rafe granddaughter of Johanna Ralegh the widow of Whalesborough who was the 2nd wife of Sir Thomas Pomeroy, the man who in 1388 had married Joanna Chudleigh (widow of Sir John St Aubyn and Sir Phillip de Bryan) & who took the Pomeroy barony from its rightful heir Edward .
Within months of Johane Chudleigh death in 1422 Thomas 2nd marriage was to Johanna Ralegh widow Whalesborough; They made a pilgrimage to Rome in and then in 1426 Thomas died . His widow died in 1435 & was buried at Greyfriars , Newgate in London
Double checking I realised I'd missed something;
Johanna Ralegh , whose 1st husband was Sir John Whalesborough, had 2 Whalesborough Daughters.
These daughters were both buried in the same place as their mother. Anne, wife of Molyns and Alice ,wife of Sir John FitzRafe whose son married Maud Bayard and whose daughter was Alice FitzRalf who became wife of William Pomeroy -she was therefore Joanna Ralegh Whalesborough Pomeroy's granddaughter
Joanna Raleigh widow Whalesborough Lady Pomeroy was buried 1435 in St. Francis' Chapel with her daughters Anne Molens and Alice FitzRauff and with her granddaughter Alice FitzRafe Pomeroy at Greyfriars in Newgate London
William Pomeroy was brother & companion of Thomas Pomeroy, the sons of Robert Pomeroy who, in 1405 with his son surrendered the Manor House to the prior of Goldclyve in Newport in Monmouthshire
( Patent Rolls 1405 & Close Rolls ) Membury
William was a Queen's Esquire 1417 to Queen Joan of Navarre, wife of Henry IV of England (m. 1403–1413), widow of John IV, Duke of Brittany (m. 1386) Joan and Henry had no children .Her stepson was the next king , Henry V. (1413-1422)
FindaGrave
Alice Fitz Rauff. ' If she died in London, to be buried at the "grayfreres called freres menours beside Newgate, by my modres sepulture called Dame Johane Pomeray."
On the day of her burial the Warden was to have 40d., every doctor 2s., and every "other frere cladde there in the same place," 12d. Bequeathed to the Friars her "candelstikkes" of silver, and her blue gown of damask to make vestments.
Mentions Rauff and Anne, children of her daughter Elizabeth and Sir Robert Chamberleyn. Will dated 24 April, 1471. Proved 10 June, 1471.
She was buried about the centre of the sixth bay of the Choir in S. Francis' Chapel. For Joan Pomeray see under 1435 above. Grey Friars, p. 97.
it is intriguing to discover that Alice's sister Elizabeth Chamberlain's was wife of Sir Robert who is believed to have been beheaded for complicity in the “Perkin Warbeck Rebellion”,
He was attainted by statute in the 7th year of Henry VII, when he was about 60 years old & the Tower of London records his execution on the 12 March 1491 for plotting against Henry VII.
Sir Robert Chamberlain (1435-1491) Yorkist made made a knight of the Kings Body. & Constable of Beaumaris Castle he was born 1435 in Kyngeston, Cambridgeshire .He married Elizabeth Fitzralph in 1457 daughter of John FitzRalph and his wife, Alice Whalesborough
Sir Robert was loyal Yorkist thus in the reign of the Lancastrian king Henry Tudor he was tried for High Treason, outlawed by Bill of Attainder and was beheaded in the Tower of London in 1491
Given the available dates Its possible that William mentioned here was son of the brother of Sir Thomas Pomeroy who were sons of Robert of Smallridge who in 1405, with his sons, surrendered the Manor House of Membury to the prior of Goldclyve in Newport in Monmouthshire ...
( Patent Rolls 1405 & Close Rolls ),
SMALLRIDGE is listed as part of Pomeroy’s holding at 1068 - the following deduction suggests that Geoffrey de Pomeroy’s marriage to Matilda happened in around 1239 - 1240 & Smallridge went out of the family with her -the 3rd of the many Sir Henry Pomeroy's in 1206 gave his 2nd son Geoffrey the two tiny holdings near Lynton, in North Devon, Cheriton & Brandon when he was still under age.
Some 10 years later he married Matilda Ralegh and his father gave him Tale & Upottery & Bockerel It seems possible that Matilda kept Smallridge as her dower property after Geoffrey died, which may have carried it back into the Ralegh family if she remarried.
Smallridge makes an appearance in Ralegh Visitations after 1199;
King John deprived Ralph Ralegh son of Warineralegh of Nettlecombe a property in Somerset and gave it to his brother Warine (the younger) whose grandson Wimonde held Collaton Raleigh and Smallridge - circa 1240 .
His son Sir Hugh Ralegh held Smallridge and that side of the family took it through to Sir Peter Ralegh
Sir Peter Raleigh born C1370 & his wife Mary Dawney held SMALLRIDGE
Childrenof Sir Peter & his wife Maud were
Walter & SIr John Ralegh 0f Fardell & his wife Matilda Ferrer
Their children were
Alice Ralegh
Her brother John Ralegh w married Elizabeth Coplestone dau of John Coplestone.
Alice Ralegh dau of John of Fardell married Sir Henry Pomeroy bewteen about 1430 & 1440.
their son St Clere who married Catherine Courtenay but died of wounds after the Battle of Tewkesburyi 1471
making 2nd son Richard the new heir. Both sons could be presumedto have been born in the decade of 1440. Richard married Lady Ann and then Elizabeth Densill in 1473 and John who may have married. Their youngest son Thomas was given Cheriton Fitzpaine on his marriage in 1478 Agnes Kelloway.
Daughters were Agnes who married 3 times & Elizabeth who married Humphrey Courtenay whose daughter Joan married Marwood.
The Ralegh of Fardel history states that Fardel was acquired by marriage to an heiress in the C14th by the Raleigh family of Smallridge, East Devon.
Fardel is adjacent to Cornwood parish ,close to Plymouth just north of Ivybridge on the south western slopes of Dartmoor. right on the top edge of NLS OS Map
NORFOLK NOTES
Fitz was frequently used for illegitimate offspring of the king in particular but was the Fitz Ralfe family bastard line of of Ralph Duke of Norfolk?
Sir Roger Chamberlayne born circa 1405 at of Gedding, Suffolk, England. He married Margaret Martin born circa 1396 , daughter of John Martin and Anne Boteler, circa 1435 at of Long Melford, Suffolk.
He was son Robert of Gedding in Suffolk born circa 1438 died March 12, 1491 wife Elizabeth FitzRalf about born 1434 died 1517
& she had a sister ALICE who married Sir William Pomeroy
A2A
C 1 - Court of Chancery: Six Clerks Office: Early Proceedings, Richard II to Philip and Mary
Ref C 1/19/415
Short title: Curson v Brakkys. Plaintiffs: John Curson, knt.
Defendants: Thomas Brakkys, of West Bradenham, feoffee of James Curson.
Subject: Manor of Yaxham. Norfolk
Date: 1452-1454
Thomas Brakkys, of West Bradenham ( Norfolk n2½ miles W.N.W. of Shipdham, and 6½ miles E. of Swaffham. ) feoffee of James Curson.
Subject: Manor of Yaxham. Norfolk (2 miles S.E. by S. of East Dereham)
BRADENHAM (WEST) is a parish of dispersed houses, separated from the above [Bradenham, East] by a small rivulet, 2½ miles W.N.W. of Shipdham, and 6½ miles E. of Swaffham.
Thomas Brakky ah (&). Dido Fraunsham his wife? Brakkis Brakkyn
History of the parishes of West & East Bradenham Page 52 deeds relating to lands called West Rudds In Latin
DEEDS RELATING TO LANDS CALLED "WEST RUDDS," &c. Page 51
1458-9. Sciant, &c., nos Thomas Fraunsham, cives et m'cerus Norwici, Jacobus Fraunsham de Disse, et Ed'us Fraunsham mercerus de Norwico, dedi, &c., unum mesuagium, edificatum voc Sciant eciam nos, &c prefatis, &c 12 acras terre in West bradenham in 4 peciis apud le West rodes abut' super comunem semitam ducentem a Kirtling gappe usq^ Swafbam. Quasconque, &c., cum Johe' Broseyerd cive Norwic' et Johe filio dicti Thome Brakkys defnncto babui ex carta Todenham, milit', Thome Sbuldham armig'i, Johis Priour clici, et Willi Fraunceys, per cartam 29 Hen. VI. Habendum prefatis Eico Brown, &c., heredibus, &c [concluding portion dilapidated.] Hiis testibus, Willmo Aldewyn, Thoma Gorham, Johe GoUyng, WilLmo Smyth, Jacobo Cosyn, Edo. Bury, Edo. Casse. Dat. apud West bradenham, 8 Feb., 37 Hen. VI.^
[Commencement cut off.] CaUbutt, gen', et Johes Blomevyle de Nekton, gen«. dedimus, &c., Eobto Howlyn de Nekton capellano et Edm'do Heyhowe filio Eobti Heyhowe, heredibus, &c in campo de Sparbam in Nekton [in nine pieces — Beddoun's Acre, via voc. lang marwez, — apud Oylstede et ten. Durnahles, — stadium voc Brodeacre, — apud Nether balmerwod, — terr' voc. Bable, — Dunham Bable"] Quasque . . . babuimus
1 The above deed probably relates to lands afterward included in the estate of Curteys' Chantry, which will be treated of hereafter.
GOOGLE TRANSlation
Deeds relating to land called "West Rudd," Sec.
1458-9. Let it be known, & c., To St. Thomas Fraunsbam, citizens and mercerus Norwich, James Fraunsham of Disse,
And Ed'us Fraunsham Mercerus of Norwich, I, Sec., one MESSUAGE, deciding called Willi and 30 acres of woodland in the West Bradenham that when Thomas Brakky ah (&). Dido Fraunsham the West Bradenham, John,(&) his wife, and John their son, being now dead, the arguments which by enfeoffment of Robert the Wright of Saham Thwaite, according to a charter granted in the West Bradenham Ao. 28 Hen. VI.
also knowwe mentioned Sec, Sec 12 acres of land in West Bradenham into 4 pieces at the West rodcs abut on a common path leading from Kirtling gappe usq¿ Swafbam. Quasconque, & c.,
With Jone 'Broseyerd citizen of Norwich, the son of Thomas Jone(John?) Brakky Telefus the arguments of the Charter Todenham, militfavit,
Thomas Shuldham armiger, Joins Prior cfici and Francis Wills, the charter of 29 Hen. 6. To have Eico said Brown, & c., inheritance, etc. [concluding portion dilapidated.] Witnesses Wilimo Aldewyn, Thomas Gorham, Jone GoUyng, Willms Smyth, James Cosyn, Edo. Bury Edo. Casse.
DAT. in West Bradenham, 8 Feb., 37 Hen. 6. '( about 1459 )
[Commencement cut off.] CaUbutt gen ', and Jones Blomevyle of Nekton gen ". Name, & c., Eobt Howlyn of Nekton chaplain Edm'do heyhowe son Eobt heyhowe, his, etc in the field of Sparbam to Nekton [into nine pieces - Beddoun's Acre, the roe. lang marwez - with Oylstede and ten. Durnahles - Brodeacre stage act - in Nether balmerwod, - terror, "we. Bable, - Denham Bable '] hairs... Habuimus
1 The above deed probably relates to land afterwards included in the estate of Curtcys' Chantry, which will be treated of hereafter.
(Possibly Saham Toney near Watton in Norfolk manor of Saham-Toney, once held by the famous Earl of Warwick, in the reigns of Henry VI. and Edward IV.
OR Saham Grayle close the West Bradenham
Wiki- Saham Toney derives the first part of its name from the Old English meaning homestead by the lake. However, toney refers to the fact the land was owned by Ralph de Toeni, standard-bearer of William I, in the period shortly after the Norman conquest.[
Saham Toney was close to a significant Romano-British settlement.
The Peddars Way footpath, partly using remaining Roman roads, passes close to the village.
The village derives part of its name from the 13-acre mere that is in the parish. The mere is well stocked with fish especially eels of two species, one noted for their delicious, and the other for their nauseous flavour, also one is of a peculiar shape. There are also large pike in the mere. The mere which is dangerous is thought to be as old as the last Ice Age. Now privately owned with access by special permission of the owner only.
Shipdham, NORFOLK DOMESDAY
Shipdham was a settlement in Domesday Book, in the hundred of Mitford and the county of Norfolk.
It had a recorded population of 70.7 households in 1086, putting it in the largest 20% of settlements recorded in Domesday, and is listed under 5 owners in Domesday Book.
King William. settlements William of Warenne and one held by Hermer of Ferrers Conisbrough Castle in South Yorkshire’s most striking landmarks and held by William de Warenne.
Visitations of Norfolk No Brakkys found in UK Gen. Archive (Batty Smith)
Page 71 Elizabeth Chamberlayne nee Fitz Rafe & her sister the unnamed Fitz Rafe wife of Sir William Pomeroy
Fitz Rafe named on pages 71 & 72 – John, Elizabeth, Eleanor Sir John, Margaret , Maud
page 72 Robert Fitz Rafe son of John Fitz Rafe & Alice Whaleborough parents of Sir John Robert wife Elenor Walgrave son Robert married Margaret Nawton father Bart
Chamberlayne family of pedigree connects to Mortimer & Whalesborough
unnamed co-heir s of of Sir John Fitz Rafe/Ralph & Maud of Baynard ; her sister Elizabeth was wife of Sir Robert Chamberleyn -
Alice FitzRafe married Sir William Pomeroy
FitzRalph from 1169 until 1177
William FitzRalph owned land in Derbyshire and was the High Sheriff of Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire and the Royal Forests
Was this a move into Devon
Sir William Pomeroy married Alice the grand-daughter of FitzRafe who died 1471 buried Greyfriars Newgate - her sister Elizabeth FitzRalf Chamberlain about born 1434 died 1517
Sir Thomas Pomeroy died 1426 The dates suggest William was a later generation possibly son of William of Membury brother of Thomas
Sir Roger Chamberlayne born circa 1405 at of Gedding, Suffolk, England. He married Margaret Martin born circa 1396 , daughter of John Martin and Anne Boteler, circa 1435 at of Long Melford, Suffolk; son Robert of Gedding in Suffolk born circa 1438 died March 12, 1491