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Anne Pawmery bur. 29 Jan 1574 Burials. Vol. 3 (Burial) Collection: Gloucestershire: Dymock - Parish Registers, 1538-1790
We explore the theory that Anne Powmery, buried 1574, was Anne nee Wykes Arthur 2nd wife & widow of Richard Pomeroy of Totnes in Devon
AML notes that Anne Wykes, daughter of William Wykes, married to Thomas Arthur (Arture), circa 1539 & probably as his second wife. Thomas Arthur died c 1542, ("Slain in France")
They were only married for 3 years before he died & she was expecting her 4th child & was still under age at the time of Arturs death.
In 1544 Anne Wykes, widow of Thomas Arthur made a 2nd marriage to Richard Pomeroy, who was around 30 years her senior, & overseer of the Will of her mother Agnes Wykes nee Strowbridge . The Will, dated July 30 1552 , was proved Aug 17 1554.
Richard Pomeroy was b c 1592, son of Thomas Pomeroy and Agnes Kelloway, of Bowden at Totnes and had been married first to Eleanor Coker He was a man of hard won affluence & influence who may have became the man of business for Sir Thomas Artur ; certainly he was overseer to the 1552 Will of Anne Wyke's mother - later Richard Pomeroy's mother in law .
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Dymock consisted of sub-manors, Dymock Parva or Little Dymock called Gamage Hall and the manor of Rye including the Ketford estate which later split into four.
Humphrey Forster (d. 1554) and his wife Martha held the manor house called the Boyce (1601) by descent and he became lord of the manor of Dymock after Robert Devereaux, earl of Essex (who held it from about 1582), was beheaded in 1601.
The manor was sold in 1611 to Sir George Huntley who married Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Winter of Lydney. Sir George Huntley's son held Dymock which was eventually inherited by Sir John Winter in his great aunt Eleanor's Will.
Sir John Winter lived at the White House, Dymock after he burned down White Cross manor, Lydney in 1646. He was proscribed on 14.5.1648, condemned to death and his estates confiscated. Dymock was granted to his creditors on 15.11.1654.
The advowson of Dymock, consisting of the White House Estate, rectory and vicarage passed after the Dissolution of the Abbeys in 1539 to Sir Richard Lee (who also held Newent) then to Edward Wilmot who leased them to William Winter of Lydney. They were corroborated by Letters Patent in 1615 to Sir Edward Winter of Lydney and William Winter of Coleford. In 1616 Edward Winter gave the rights to William (d. 1626). William Winter, who presented vicars in 1626, 1654 and 1664, was possibly William of Coleford's brother Captain William Winter mentioned in his Will.
The following give an idea of the extent of the Arthur's properties.
1532:Reference: C 1/695/22
Description: Short title: Arthur v Thornes.
Plaintiffs: Thomas Arthur, esquire, son and heir of John Arthur.
Defendants: Robert (Roger) Thornes, gentleman, Richard Mytton and nine others, bailiffs of Shrewsbury.
Subject: Issues and profits of messuages, shops, garden, land, and rent in Shrewsbury, taken by defendants at the instance of Antony Rawly, esquire, and Edward Rawly, gentleman. Shropshire
Date: 1532-1538
1551; Thomas Launsdown esquire was uncle of Thomas Arthur, son of Thomas Arthur, senior.
This is Thomas, son and heir. Seeking right from his mother: Messuages, land and rent in Bristol, its suburbs, Long Ashton, Bishypsworth, in Gloucestershire and Somerset.
Reference: C 1/1287/38-41 Description: Short title: Arthur v Launsdon.
Plaintiffs: Thomas, son and heir of Thomas ARTHUR, esquire.
Defendants: Thomas LAUNSDON. (Uncle, married to the sister of Thomas Arthur, sen
Subject: Messuages, land and rent in Bristol and its suburbs, Long Ashton, and Bishport (Bysshyppesworth). Gloucestershire, Somerset
(Coming of age; to takes possession of inheritance. )
Date: 1551-1553 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record
1574 Evidence of Easton in Gordano being out of the Arthur hands:
1 Sir John Young had entertained Queen Elizabeth at his new 'Great House' inBristol during her visit in 1574 and had been knighted for his pains. He owned
various estates in the west country including the manor of Easton-in-Gordano. J . Collinson, History of Somerset, 1791 , Ill, p. 149.
S. Seyer, Memoirs of Bristol. 1823, 11 , pp. 244-245.
DYMOCK. a parish in the hundred of Botloe, in the county of Gloucester, 4 miles N.W. of Newent, and 4 S. of Ledbury, said to have derived its name from dint and acle, the "dark oak", for which it was in early times famous.
Llanthony is almost 30 miles from Newent
John Arthur was the father in law of Anne Wykes widow Sir Thomas Arthur. John's sister Margaret had married Roger Porter - they had numerous children. Their main residence seems to have been at Llanthony Priory which Roger acquired after the Dissolution ... Roger requested to be buried at Newent.
BHOL
Roger Porter obtained properties at the Dissolution of the Monasteries in around 1540. These included the site of Llanthony Priory, the manor house & demesne of Alvington (near Lydney close the the river Severn), which he made one of his two chief residences: in 1558 he and several members of the Denys family bought the remainder of the manor.
Elsewhere in the county he owned land at Newent, Lydney and Haggafield, and there are records of his buying property at Pitchcombe, Painswick and in the city of Gloucester, where by the end of Mary’s reign (1558) he had a joint share in over 25 houses. He (bought) Llanthony Secunda Priory is within in the city of Gloucester seen here top
https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/text/chap_page.jsp?t_id=Cambrensis_Tour&c_id=5
Augustinian Canons Regular — from Llanthony, Wales daughter house of Llanthony founded 1136 at the instance of Robert, Bishop of Gloucester on a site granted by Miles (Milo) of Gloucester, Earl of Hereford; built by the prior and canons at Llanthony Priory;
dissolved 1538; granted to Sir Arthur Porter 1540/1 He married well, and was related to influential local families ; his first wife produced a large family, a number of whom died in infancy. Six were buried at Hempstead, Gloucestershire, before 1549, and two had died earlier at or near Quedgeley, on his Lanthony property.
Roger Porter died on 31 May 1559 requesting burial at Newent . No will has been found. 3 (Quedgely near to the city of Cloucester some 9 miles from Newent across the river Severn - the 1st bridge being at Gloucester)
Margaret Artur, married Roger PORTER of Newent and, Somerset. (AML:
https://gloshistory.org.uk/reprints/gh200417.pdf
Margaret was Roger's father's sister - his Aunt !
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044058155821&view=1up&seq=20&q1=Shipman
his mother was also a Margeret a daughter of John Boteler of Badminton
Thomas ’s mother was Margaret dau of John Boteler (Butler) of Badminston Glos and his AUNT was Margaret who married Roger Porter
He had a brother Edmund & a sister Anne who married Thomas Morgan of Ffayland in Wraxhall
Visitations gives us the issue by the 1st wife of Thomas Artur the unnamed dau of John Shipman the wealthiest Merchant in Bristol -
John Shipman was married to Joan, dau Sir Edward Gorge - son of Winifred Buduchshide Gorges dau of Anne Pomeroy sister of Sir Richard d 1496
Thomas Arthur married first Cycele Agard of London - their son Edmund married Mary Pyne of Brymor Somerset dau of Erasmus Pyne.
Agard - https://landedfamilies.blogspot.com/2013/07/54-agard-of-foston-hall.html
After 1539 Thomas Arthur m. 2nd Anne Wykes.
(Note: 05/2021: AML had Thomas Arthur, son or step son of Anne Wykes Arthur, as the man who married Cycele Agard.). Need to check this. )
82. THOMAS ARTHUR 1 TO MATTHEW SMYTH
CLOPTON 12 MARCH N.Y. (Don't have year?) Hopes that Smyth has recovered his health. Writes concerning a dispute over land leased from him by William Porter and his son John Porter, which lease Arthur claims has now expired.
' . .. my man Walcar told me that you sayd you know some what of my delings and also that I sold my ground to good chep, and therefore I wolde have hyt agayne, truly I never mad that bargayne yet with any man but he had his promis of me, and there fore it is not small gryffe unto me that you especially do condemn me apon repon of a varlet or to ... 'Assures Smyth of his honest dealings, 'I was alwayse desyrus to
have your good wyll and to kype the same'. Asks that the dispute shall be brought to trial at law.
AML Note: Anne Pawmery was 2nd wife of Richard Pomeroy. Her first husband was Thomas Arthur of Clapton. Her sons were John Arthur , who married Joan Gorges: Thomas Arthur , Who married Cecily AGARD, and George. (No marriage record for George. Anne's Daughter was Anne, who married Richard Hopkins. )
Sir Thomas Artur WAS married before and the YOUNG Anne Wykes was 2nd wife hence step daughter to Margaret ? He and Richard Pomeroy must have been of a similar age -
The carvel the "Matthew" was owned by the Bristol merchant, John Shipman, Bristols richest shipowner, being the owner or part-owner of five great ships by 1513.
AJP NOTE
the MATTHEW is a FAMOUS ship.. In 1497 it carried John Cabot from Bristol to Newfoundland in Northern America ,
After her glory year at sea crossing the Atlantic in 1497, The Matthew was owned by the Bristol merchant, John Shipman. He was the port’s richest shipowner, being the owner or part-owner of five great ships by 1513.
There were also connections through legal wrangles Arture, v. George, son and heir of John FORDE.: Lease of lands (described) in the manor of Little Totnes,
John Forde married Mary Pomeroy of Ingsdon In 1566 daughter of Hugh Pomeroy & Barbara Southcot
Richard Pomeroy of Totnes managed the affairs of the under age sons of the Fords
In his WILL Thomas Artur put his brother in law in charge of his children - WHY ? other than the misogyny of the time , after all he had a 'good man' of affairs in Richard Pomeroy - could it be that his wife Anne was under age (21) ? She was pregnant with her 4th child at the time of Thomas Arthurs death
(AML Richard Pomeroy was not Arturs man of affairs at that point. He had been a comrade in arms in France-- AJP as in all probability were Wynter & Ford too.
The 1542 Will of Sir Thomas Artur put Thomas Launsden MP his brother-in-law, husband of Elizabeth Artur his sister, in charge of his children Launsden married twice had 4 children, was twice elected MP. and was a Bristol merchant, a haberdasher who in about 1542 had borrowed capital sum of £70 from his brother-in-law.
THOMAS ARTUR ancestor Thomas Arthur MP died 1404 Son of Richard Artur & Isabel Tuttle dau &heir of Roger Tuttle a merchant of Bristol. He married Isabell Stokes dau of John Stoke merchant of Bristol, nothing more on either of these
Richard POMERYE, esquire, also called Richard Pomeroy of Bowden at Totnes & Paignton & lately the husband of Eleanor Coker. Anne Wykes Arthur his 2nd wife, was widow of wife of Thomas Arture,
Anne Artur nee Wykes wife & widow of Richard Pomeroy buried at Dymock near Newent in 1574 where her granddaughter lived
(Her first husbands sister, Margaret Artur, married Roger PORTER of Newent and, Somerset who died 1523 Will Date: 5 May 1523) He was one of the commissioners of Gaol Delivery at Gloucester Castle - a cross between magistrate and Grand Jury member. Their son was Arthur Porter
Their main residence seems to have been Llanthony Priory which Roger acquired after the Dissolution ...
Roger requested to be buried at Newent. Dymock is 4 miles from Newent but Llanthony is almost 30 miles from Newent
BHOL Roger Porter obtained properties ot the dissolution of the monasteries in about 1540.
These included the site of Llanthony priory and the manor house and demesne of Alvington (near Lydney close the the river Severn), which he made one of his two chief residences.
(Note for above: Anne's daughter was Anne. Note dates for Margaret Arture Sir John Arture, m. Margaret. died circa 1522.)
Arthur Porter was minor gentry with good connections. The family had established itself in Gloucestershire in the middle of the fifteenth century from Somerset. He was the son and heir of Roger Porter of Newent by his first wife Margaret, daughter of John Arthur of Clapton-in Gordano, and estimated to have been born in or before 1504-05.
Through his mother he acquired an impressive pedigree which can be traced back to James , Lord Berkeley, Thomas Mowbray Duke of Norfolk and Thomas Fitzalan Earl of Arundel.
On his father’s side the line can be followed for six generations back to Sir Peter St. Poole, who in 1396 accompanied nine year old Isabella of Valois on her journey to England to become Richard II’s wife.” Roger Porter has a memorial in Newent Church
AML Note: Have a full Arthur descent researched and plan to use it to prove the connection between Richard Pomeroy of Bowden at Totnes and the Clevedon Pomeroys, with addition land references.
It is very complex and we are waiting on the y700 result for Harriet Pomeroys brother.
The Irish records need to be researched more fully in light of the history of the time between 1570-1603. AML ntends to develop the idea that there was a period when there was activity between Bristol and Ireland that may have led to the Irish/Millstreet Pomeroys having the same YDNA haplogroup.
social coincidences - DYMOCK,
FROM AML: (Note Anne was second wife to Thomas Arthur’s. not clear on which of his children were Anne’s.)
Anne Pawmery and her Winter/Wynter connections.
Her son Thomas Arthur became Lord of Clapton.
His heir, and Her grandson, Edward Arthur married Mary Pym.
It was Their daughter Maria Arture born 1578, who married William Winter.
As heiress, her husband William Winter became Lord of Clapton.
William Winter was the youngest son of George Winter of Dynham, Gloucester, esq.
also
Wynter of nearby Lydney ( Forest of Dean )
The Lydney estate records contain little of a personal nature concerning the Wynter family, but there is a good deal of material about the Forest of Dean and the Wynter iron-mines.
This entry make an interesting read as does Glos. Visitations Wynter. VERY illuminating - yards of it !
https://archive.org/details/visitationofcoun00inchit/page/280/mode/2up
Thomas Wykes gent 1585 married Mary Pym, the widow of Edward Arthur. (See records above.)
Genuki search for Clapton Wyke 0r Clapton Pomeroy- Dozens of pages
AML purchased and had transcribed a Small collection of records for Richard Pomeroy and his wife Anne, widow of Thomas Arthur. They tell the story of of the Arthur administrators not giving Anne her dower rights: promising cash instead, but then not giving the cash.
Anne and Richard end up with freehold property before the Arthur’s decided to sell out.
It appears that some of the freehold property Anne had was included in the sale, and the new owners were supposed to pay her the Dowry cash again, as part of their 'mortagage agreement," and that fell through . So this precedes the sales cited in references above. They clung to a bit of property called Clapton Wyke, aka. Clapton Pomroy which as hers, from the Wykes.
AML stated she will have to get the dates sorted.
Landed Families BlogSpot here Arthur of Clapton in Gordano
1596: Reference: 12157/8
Description: Surrender, for purposes of a recovery, by Edmund Turner and Joan his wife to Thomas Arthur and William Wynter : all their interest in messuages, lands etc. in Weston in Gordano.
Date: 1596 October 2
Held by: Bristol Archives, not available at The National Archives
Context of this record • 2 - Bristol Archives • 12157 - Somerset Deeds
• MANORS OF CLAPTON, WESTON IN GORDANO, WESTON SUPER MARE, ASHECOMBE MYLTON AND CUSTOCKE.
12157/7 1596 October 2
Contents: Covenant to suffer a recovery between 1) Thomas Weekes (Wykes) and Mary his wife, formerly the wife of Edward Arthur, descd., 2) Thomas Arthur of Bristol, brother of Edward, 3) William Wynter of Bristol esq.: manors of Clapton, Weston in Gordano, Weston super Mare, Ashecombe Mylton and Custocke, purchased by Wynter for £5,000.
MANOR OF CLAPTON [no ref. or date] 12157/10 1598 May 1
Contents: Deed to declare uses of a fine, between William Wynter and Mary his wife, 2) Thomas Weekes and Mary his wife, 3) Thomas Arthur and Elizabeth his wife 4) Richard Wynter and Edward Parsons: manor of Clapton and all lands, tenements etc, formerly of Edward Arthur, descd., late husband of Mary Weeks.
Reference: 12157/8
Description: Surrender, for purposes of a recovery, by Edmund Turner and Joan his wife to Thomas Arthur and William Wynter : all their interest in messuages, lands etc. in Weston in Gordano.
Date: 1596 October 2. Held by: Bristol Record Office, not available at The National Archives
Reference: 12157/9/a & b
Description: Deed to lead uses of a recovery (2) from Thomas Arthur to William Clackstone and William Welshe, for William Wynter : manors of Clapton, Weston in Gordano, Weston super Mare, Ashecombe Mylton and Custocke.
Date: 1596 November 4 Held by: Bristol Record Office, not available at The National Archives
Language: English
(Above represents several attempts by the Arthur heirs to sell Clapton, but then the buyers fells through with payments: (Turner, Clackstone, Walshe, etc)
A Thomas Arthur died Clyve, Westbury, Gloucestershire:
1604. : Arthur, Thomas, Clyve in Westbury
Book: Burialls 1604. (Burial) Collection: Gloucestershire: - Calendar of Wills, Court of Bishop of Gloucester, 1541-1650
Clapton in Gordano 1631
Will of William Winter 26 Feb 1631: proved 22 Jun 1621.
Bequests To Mary Wykes, his deceased mother in law: To William Winter, his son and heir. To wife Mary Arthur Winter, the manor house and demesne of Clapton, lands in Weston Super Mare, and also lands called North and west Weston.
His son Arthur was named, as well as Daughters Bridget and Jane Winter. The son and heir, William Winter created his will 1 Feb 1644, proved 28 Nov 1654.
1644: 1 Feb 1644, William Winter of Clapton, bequests to my nephew William Ivie: to my niece Elinor Ivie; to my daughter Grace Winter; to my son and heir Henry Winter; To my Elder sister Jane KNOWELL a messuage bought of Sir George Winter…in the parish of ST. Philips, near Lawford Gate, Bristol:
My Mother in law Mrs. Grace Halswell; to lay out £20 in a monument in Clapton Church for myself and my deceased wife, her daughter:
My sister Mrs Mary Johnson, my uncle Hugh Halwell, clerk, and Wamuel GORGES of Wraxall to be tutors of Grace, my daughterm and to compound for the wardship of my heir Henry Winter. Proved Nov 28 1654. (492, Alchin)
Pomeroy Connections gives
Edward Pomeroy born circa 1655, married GRACE FOOT, 6 April, 1675, Nailsea, Somerset.
FMP has
Edward Pomrye s/o Nicholas & Anne Bb19 April 1651 at Kenn in Somerset 22 miles from Clapton in Gordano
Anne Pomrey Bb 26 Jane 1676 d/o Edward & Grace at Clapton in Gordano Som
Grace Bb26 Jan 1676 d/o Edward & Grace Clapton in Gordano Som
Hugh Pomrey B 13 Jan 1677 to Edward & Grace at Clapton in Gordano Som
Anne Pomroy Bb 2 April 1681 to Edward & Grace at Clapton in Gordano Som
Patience Pomroy Bb 25 July 1683 d/o Edward & Grace at Clapton in Gordano Som
NickolisPomroy Bb 25 July 1683 to Edward & Grace at Clapton in Gordano Som
Nickolas s/o Edward & Grace Bb 25 July 1685 at Clapton in Gordano Som
Anne Pomroy Married 1699 at Ling Ashton to William Threasher at Long Ashton
A slender ancient connecting strand
John Parkyn married in Dymock 1542 to Elenor Howard - the single hit for Glos
Lewis Parkyn 2nd husband of Johane Pomeroy nee Strowde of Collaton Manor in Newton Ferrers near Plymouth in Devon.
Date of marriage unknown only child appears to be Andrew (senior) and by 1518 John Pomeroy was dead, at the age of about 24. His widow Johane Strowde married again - her 2nd husband was Lewis Perkyn.
I could find no trace of Lewis Parkyn in Devon BUT there was this later Parkyn in Dymock
INTERCONNECTEDNESS of everything
Eltweed or Elwyd was b 1585 With a name so unique in that form I have long wondered how it came about until I came across the name of a C6th Welsh saint Illtud/Illtyd
https://www.monasticwales.org/listsites.php fascinating site
THE LINK ACROSS THE SEVERN from Bristol into England & the Severn River with its huge tidal range .Its notorious for being very fast flowing & dangerous & until late C20th it only 2 bridges in its lower reaches.
One at Gloucester & one 12 miles upriver at Tewkesbury - with just a boat - ferry crossing close to Bristol at Aust -
' the most voluminous flow of water by far in all of England and Wales,'
1320 Nicholas of Tewkesbury Lord of Dartmouth- most probably one of the 5 sons of HenryPomeroy & his Moels wife :
Goldciffe Priory near Newport on the Bristol Channel - interesting because it has a connection William of Membury possibly Brother of Troublesome Thomas (died 1426 )
I wonder if there is a connection NEWENT where there was a PRIORY
LLanthony Secunda Priory in Gloucester
Alvington House in Lydney
Llanthony Priory
OLD GRANGE MANOR seen above
Roger (d. 1155), earl of Hereford and lord of Dymock, included the Dymock demesne and half of the Dymock wood in his endowment of Flaxley abbey.
Henry II confirmed the gifts in 1158 and William de Gamages later granted the abbey other land in Dymock. The abbey retained its estate based on a grange (later the Old Grange) on the west side of the parish until the Dissolution when, in 1537, its possessions were acquired by Sir William Kingston. (
Sir William died in 1540 and his son and heir Sir Anthony Kingston sold his Dymock property to Thomas Wenman in 1544.
Thomas was later knighted and his son Thomas settled the estate, known as the manor of Dymock or Old Grange, on himself and his wife Jane (or Joan) in 1570.
Thomas and Jane later acquired the manor of Little Dymock and after his death in 1582 she married in turn Thomas Fisher (d. by 1592) of Bampton (Oxon.) and Richard Unett of Woolhope (Herefs.).
She died in the early 17th century and her estate passed to her granddaughter Jane, the daughter of Richard Wenman (d. 1598) and wife of John Wynniatt.
The Newent Benedictine alien house: dependent on of Cormeilles Priory, Normandy; dissolved 1411 by Henry IV; granted to Fotheringay College; granted to Sir Richard Lee 1547; In 1533 he was serving with the army at Calais. In July 1540 he was sent by the council of Calais to carry a letter dated 27 July to the king, explaining the progress made with the defences.
Newent Priory Dissolved by 1547 granted to Sir Richard Lee
Sir Thomas PORTER, MP for Gloucestershire (1537-98), of Newent and Alvington, Glos whose wife Anne, was da. of Richard Denys of Cold Ashton Glos married circa 1558 his wife, mother of Anne was daughter Sir John St John of Bletsloe. Her sister was Catherine St JOHN who married Sir Gruffudd ap Rhys of Carmarthen and 2ndly married Sir Richard Edgecombe father of Joanna. Catherine St John Lady Edgecumbe was lady in waiting to 2 of Henry VIII queens Anne Cleves & Catherine Howard. She was step mother of Joanna Edgecumbe wife of Thomas Pomeroy
British History OnLine -Dymock
The Great Manor of Dymock
... in 1428 the manor reverted to Edmund Ruyhale's trustees and passed to John Merbury, a chief justice in south Wales, who in 1432 acquired the interest in the manor that had descended from Alice Wake to Thomas Wake of Blisworth (Northants.).
John Merbury died in 1438. His daughter and heir Elizabeth, wife of (Sir) Walter Devereux, survived in 1453 and Walter died in 1459, having settled the manor on Anne, the wife of his son Walter, later Lord Ferrers.
Following Anne's death in 1469 Walter held the manor by courtesy and after his death at the battle of Bosworth in 1485 his widow Jane (or Joan) took possession of it.
She married in turn Thomas Vaughan (fl. 1492), Sir Edmund Blount (d. 1499), and Thomas Poyntz of Alderley, who held the manor in her right in 1522.
By 1537 the manor had passed to Anne and Walter Devereux's grandson Walter Devereux, Lord Ferrers. ..........
By 1640 the owner was Sir John Winter of Lydney, also a relative of the Huntleys a prominent royalist who suffered heavy financial penalties after the Civil War. In 1656 he sold the manor to Evan Seys of Boverton (Glam.). MP for Gloucester after the Restoration, who sold it in 1680 to Edward Pye of Much Dewchurch (Herefs.) a merchant with business in Barbados, died in 1692 having settled the manor in trust for his grandnephew Edward Pye Chamberlayne. Edward, who lived for a time on Barbados, took possession in 1704 and gave the estate to his son Edward Pye Chamberlayne in 1717.
The latter died in 1729 and his widow Elizabeth held the estate as guardian of their infant son Edward Pye Chamberlayne until 1740 when the son sold the manor and the rest of the estate in 1769 to Ann Cam of Battersea (Surrey), heiress to other lands in Dymock.
Wynter in Lydney
23rd Sept 2020 Links
AJP - Links worth further research
The Medieval Bridge at Bristol has a Twitter page
The Monastic landscape
an interesting Phd research doc
BAUSLEY at Domesday is REALLY Interesting
Lord in 1066: Siward (the fat).!
1068 held by Roger son of Corbet -
2 households occupied by 2 welshmen with 1 plough team worth 2/s
Bausley has all kinds of interesting connections.. making me wonder if the C16th C Pomeroy Powmery's there connect to the armorial tree.
Is this a direct connection between Corbet in Shropshire and Tremerton Castle & Henry Pomeroy ?
Feet of Fines for Cornwall A.D. 1272 - 1307
Feet of Fines for Cornwall A.D. 1272 - 1307
Feet of Fines were final judgements regarding land after legal action had been taken. They provided a record of title, often after purchase.
The Manor and Castle of Trematon was the cause of a court case on 16 February 1270. Richard Plantagenet (created Earl of Cornwall 1226), the son of King John of England, was the claimant and Roger de Valle Torta the opponent regarding this land, 60½ knights fees in Devon and Cornwall, and the Manor of Calstock. The land was said to be the right of the said king as those which he had by Roger's gift.
Following the endorsement of this foot of fine it says: And Henry de la Pomerai and Peter Corbet put in their claim. This was saying that they did not agree with this decision and were lodging notice of their rights to the land. The argument was to continue for many years.
Additional details appear in the Fine Rolls Vol. 1 1272-1307 order: In 1274, the executors of Thomas' will were ordered to deliver to Peter Corbet, son and heir of Thomas Corbet, deceased, the lands which had belonged to his father. Peter was born in 1298, the son of Thomas, who died in 1300, and his first wife, Joan Mortimer.
A page note in the Feet of Fines confirms that Peter Corbet was the grandson of Isabella Corbet (formerly Valletort). This Peter, in 1315, was to petition Parliament for the recovery of the Trematon estate, alleging that when Roger de Valletort made a deed of gift in favour of Richard, Earl of Cornwall, he was non compos mentis.
Isabella in WikiTree - Sir William "Lord of Worthen" Corbet Born about 1080 in Shropshire,
Son of Roger Corbet and [mother unknown] siblings Everard Corbet, Simon Corbet, Roger Corbet and Robert Corbet
wife 1 Isabel Valletort —
wife 2 Mawd FitzWarin —
Children Simon Corbet, Roger Corbet, William Corbet, Walter Corbet, Robert Corbet and Hugh Corbet
FMP searches in nearby Shropshire
Shrewsbury, is the county town is an important centre along the Welsh Border- about 50 miles from Dymock
Richard Powmere Marriage 24 Sep 1594 Anglican Marriage in Condover to Katheryn Mynsterley in county of Shropshire
Archive reference P81/A/1/1 Page 33 Record set Shropshire Marriages
Katheryn Mynsterley Bb 25 May 1558 at Chelmarsh father Thomas
18 miles from Condover
This is almost the same neck of the woods as Anne Pawmray
Anne Pawmery bur. 29 Jan 1574 Burials. Vol. 3 (Burial) Collection: Gloucestershire: Dymock
50 miles away
CONDOVER, a parish in the hundred of Condover, in the county of Salop, 4 miles S.W. of Shrewsbury with townships and hamlets of Bayston Hill, Boreton, Chatford, High and Low Condover, Dorrington, Lyth, Ryton, Westley, and Wheathall
married 1594 their children were
Roger 23 Nov 1595 son of Richard Powmere of the parish of Pontesbury (7½ miles S.W. of Shrewsbury)
Thomas Powmere Bb 29 Jan 1597 son of Richard Powmere of Great Piton/Biton Condover
Thomas Powmere B 29 Feb 1598 son of Richard at Condover Shropshire
Edward Powmere 20 Dec 1600 son of Richard at Shipton
Joan Powmere Bb 18 Oct 1600 dau of Richard Pomere -Dodmington
William Pomoore 5 Jan 1603 son of Richard in Shipton
Francis Pamore 17 Feb 1608 son of Richard in Shipton
Anna Pamore 31 May 1610 dau of Richard in Shipton
earlier records in same area
Richard Pamore 9 July 1539 son of John & Joyce his wife - Munslow
Margaret Bb 13 Aug 1548 father William Pomoore in Shipton Salop
Richard son of Edward Pamoore 8 Dec 1571 in Shipton
Thomas son of William Pamoore Bb 20 July 1552 Shipton
Henry Pamore son of Thomas 13 May 1593 in Worthen Shropshire
Joanna Pamore B 1557 Pontesbury
Johannes Pamore 1566 Munslow Salop
Roland Pamore 14 May 1560 son of Richard of Pontesbury
Maria Powmere Bb 22 Oct 1613 father Johanis Powmere of Balsley in Aldersbury register
Dorothea Powmere buried 17 May 1614 wife of Johanis in Aldersbury Shropshire
Johanis Powmere of Blasley Baptised 28 May 1614 - Id guess his mother died at his birth
These entries are all very beautifully written suggesting they are probably Bishops transcripts - BUT the handwriting style also suggests Victorian with the babies recorded as - born again!!
Pontesbury 7½ miles S.W. of Shrewsbury, inhabitants chiefly engaged in the coal, lime, and lead mills.
COLLECTION of Connections
Alberbury in Shropshire is partially over the Welsh Border, 9 miles west of Shrewsbury.
Formerly a Royal Manor,- in the 12th, 13th, and 14th centuries, a dwelling place of the warlike family of Fitzwarine, Alberbury is said by the Antiquary Evan "to have a history of surpassing interest to those who would study the principles and workings of the feudal system".
The original Saxon Church was collegiate and dedicated to St. Michael. It now consists of a fine ancient Nave, a Chancel rebuilt in the middle of 19th century, a saddle-back fortress Tower on the north of Nave, and a 14th century Chapel (tithe free) on the south side belonging to the Leighton family
ALBERBURY PARISH REGISTER. The Church was connected with the courtyard of the small ruined castle of the Fitzwarines by a flying buttress.
About two miles from the Church stands the White Abbey, long ago turned into a domestic dwelling; but some fine 13th century vaulting, the traces of a large east window and piscina, and an Early English doorway still exist. The history of its foundation by Fulk Fitzwarine in the time of King John is so quaintly told by a troubadour in the " Gestes of the Fitzwarines " that it may be worth recording here:-
"Fulk bethought him that he had greatly sinned against God as by slaughter of people and other great offences and in remission of his sins founded a Priory (in the honor of our Lady St. Mary of the Order of Grandmont) near Alberbury, in a wood on the river Severn, and it is called New Abbey ... and he saw in his chamber so great a light that it was wonderful ... and after that light Fulk could never see more, but was blind all his days This Fulk remained seven years blind and suffered well his penance. Lady Clarice, his wife, died and was buried at the New Abbey: after whose death Fulk lived but a year and died at White-town (Whittington), and in great honor was he interred at the New Abbey; on whose soul may God have mercy. Near the altar lies the body. God have mercy on us all alive and dead, Amen." In the year 1858, the east end at the Abbey was altered by its owners, All Souls College, and under the altar were found five skeletons; they were taken up and buried in the orchard.
Fitzwarine is interesting Ive heard of Fulk Fitzwarine somewhere..
and in my database I find that COLE had connections
Sir William COLE of Tamar, knt, who married Margaret, daughter of Sir Henry BEAUPELL, knt. had in turn as son and heir, Sir John COLE, knt (Agincourt), who married Agnes, daughter of Sir FITZWARINE, knt, and had issue, four sons:
Other Families which became part of the Cole succession included: Archdeacon (Erkedne), Fitzwarine, Weston, Bodrugan, Beaupell, de la Pomeroy;
The son and heir of Roger Cole was John who, in 1324, was described as John COLE de Tamer, Man-at-Arms, attending the Great Council at Westminster.
By 1341, he was possessed of a variety of manors in both Devon and Cornwall, and left as son and heir, Sir John COLE, knight, of Nythway, in the parish of Brixham.
In 1380 he was knighted and married Anne, daughter and heiress of Sir Nicholas BODRUGAN, knt, by whom he had issue:
Sir William COLE of Tamar, knt, who married Margaret, daughter of Sir Henry BEAUPELL, knt. had in turn as son and heir, Sir John COLE, knt (Agincourt), who married Agnes, daughter of Sir FITZWARINE, knt, and had issue, four sons:
Sir Adam COLE, knt, his heir, who succeeded at Uptamer and Nythway, who married married twice (
John COLE, who married Jane, daughter of Robert MERYOT of Devon
William COLE, who married ????
Robert COLE,
Margaret Pomeroy daughter of Sir Henry Pomeroy married Adam Cole and had a son John who with Thomas Pomeroy harried and the defenistrated Sir Edward Pomeroy
Their daughter Margaret Cole was grandmother of Sir Francis Drake (B circa 1540, Died: 28 Jan 1596) and her father John was grandfather of Sir Walter Raleigh, Sir Richard Grenville and Joan Durnford who married into the Egdecumbe family and was mother of Joanna who married Sir Thomas Pomeroy
At Domesday Alderbury was held by Roger son of CORBET who had 37 manors all in Shropshire from the tenant in chief was Roger Montgomery 1st Earl of Shrewsbury who held most of the land in the area who was father of William was the son of Robert, Count of Mortain, the half-brother of William I of England by Maud de Montgomery, daughter of Roger de Montgomerie, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury
Aldersley is on the flood plains of the river Severn on the Welsh Borders and once had a small Marcher castle. It's one of those neat well cared for villages obviously dominated by the huge estate at its heart which has been owned by the Leighton family for 700 years.
nearby is an area spelled BAUsley on 19th C maps -
Among the reasons for the intense dislike of Henry I, almost certainly included his mother's family, specifically his uncles Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, Hugh of Montgomery, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Arnulf of Montgomery, and Roger the Poitevin who were all devout enemies of Henry. All were dispossessed of their English holdings and exiled from England shortly after Henry became king. See: J. F. A. Mason, 'Roger de Montgomery and His Sons (1067-1102)', Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, 5th series vol. 13 (1963), pp. 1-28.
Tremerton castle in SALTASH was established by Robert, Count of Mortain soon after the Norman Conquest.[2] From the Conquest until 1270, the rights for the ferry from Saltash Passage on the Plymouth side of the River Tamar to Saltash belonged to the Valletort family. When Roger de Valletort sold Trematon Castle and manor to Richard Earl of Cornwall, the rent was paid to the Earl's bailiff. In the thirteenth century, this amounted to nearly seven pounds sterling.
Reginald was born in Dénestanville in the Duchy of Normandy, an illegitimate son of King Henry I (1100–1135) by his mistress Sybilla Corbet,[1] a daughter and co-heiress of Sir Robert Corbet, lord of the manor of Alcester, Warwickshire, who was at some time the wife of "Herbert the King's Chamberlain".
Reginald married Mabel FitzRichard, daughter of William FitzRichard, a substantial landholder in Cornwall, by whom he had the following progeny:
Nicholas de Dunstanville (1136–1175).
Hawyse (or Denise) de Dunstanville (1138–21 April 1162), wife of Richard de Redvers, 2nd Earl of Devon.
Maud FitzRoy de Dunstanville of Cornwall (b. 1143, Dunstanville, Kent, England), wife of Sir Robert de Beaumont, Count of Meulan[4]
Ursula de Dunstanville (b. 1145), wife of Walter de Dunstanville, Lord Castlecomb.
Sarah de Dunstanville (b. 1147), wife of Ademar V, Viscount of Limoges.
Reginald de Dunstanville (b. c. 1152).
Joan FitzRoy (b. c. 1150), wife of Ralph de Valletort, feudal baron of Trematon in Cornwall.
Sybella’s daughter Rohesia was married off to Henry Pomeroy
Shropshire Corbets
Roger Corbet was the third son of: the
Sir Robert Corbet (died 1375) of Moreton Corbet.[2] The Corbets of Moreton Corbet were descended from the Corbet family of Caus Castle, who had been important landowners in the Welsh Marches from the time of William the Conqueror.
The senior line of the Corbets at Caus had petered out in 1347 and the properties passed to Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford[3] The cadet branch made their home at Moreton Corbet Castle, then a significant stronghold in north Shropshire.
Elizabeth, daughter of Fulk, 1st Baron Strange of Blackmere.[4] The Le Strange family were another important dynasty of Marcher Lords.
Roger Corbet had two older brothers, Thomas and Fulk, as well as a younger brother, John, and a sister, Joan.[2] He inherited most of the family estates only because of a complex series of arrangements made by his parents. As the eldest son, Thomas, predeceased his parents, they were concerned to keep the estates in the Corbet family by preventing their going to Elizabeth, Thomas's daughter, who had married Sir John Ipstones,[6] later twice MP for Staffordshire.[7] Hence they initiated a series of transactions, some involving their daughters, intended to put most of the estates in tail, and favouring in particular Fulk and Roger.[4] However, some of the provisions were mutually-contradictory, generating the disputes Roger pursued in the 1380s and 1390s.[8] In fact, litigation began even before the death of Sir Robert. In 1374 Elizabeth and Ipstones went to the Court of Common Pleas to try to get possession of the manor of Braunstone in Leicestershire, which had been given to Thomas Erdington, the son of Roger's sister, Margaret.[7]
Wikitree - Isabella Valletort
Isabelle Valletort aka de Valletort Born about 1203 in Shropshire, England
Daughter of Roger (Valletort) de Valletort and Alesia (UNKNOWN) de Valletort
sibling Roy Valletort [half], Reginald (Valletort) de Valletort, Joan (Valletort) de Pomeroy and Ralph (Valletort) de Valletort
Wife of Thomas Corbet — married 1218 in Caus, Shropshire, EnglandChildren Venice Corbet, Alice (Corbet) de Stafford, Emma (Corbet) de Brampton, Petronilla Corbet, Winnewine Corbet, Elizabeth Corbet, Peter Corbet, Robert Corbet, Nicholas Corbet and Roger Corbet
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