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In 2003 my cousin Pat & I had joined forces to research our ancestry after someone found a record which broke through brick wall that had been holding up research for years !
1851 census gave us my 3x great grandfather Richard Pomery , a widower ,was living at 7 Mitre Square, Dukes Place, St. James, City of London.
St James passage led to Mitre Square. Apart from St James Passage, access to the Place could be obtained via Little Duke Street (which crossed the top of Duke Street from Houndsditch to St James Place) in the east, or King Street in the west. St. James’s Place was later renamed Creechurch Place.
St James Square held a daily fruit market & Oranges predominated which gave rise to the name of ’Orange Market’.
In 2003 we had one brick out of the wall and could peep through the gap!
It was an exciting moment !
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The 1851 census
Richard Pomery, at 7 Mitre Square, Dukes Place, St. James, City of London, a lodger, widowed, age 70,
retired clerk East & West India Dock born Warrington Devon ( Werrington)
Born in 1781 Richard Pomeroy born near Launceston, in rural Werrington in Cornwall son of John & his 2nd wife Elizabeth Pomeroy
Richard married in Rotherhithe on 29 September 1807. His wife was Issot Webber from West Teignmouth
& was daughter of John Webber & his wife & Mary born in 1788.
The marriage of Richard & Issot was witnessed by Thomas Webber and Elizabeth Giles . More on that below
Because Webber is not an unusual name its very had to discover who his wife Mary was or where she lived and married John Webber
ISSOT Webber was baptised 1st OCT 1788 TO JOHN & MARY WEBBER at St James church West Teignmouth
Her mother may have died at her birth ; There was Mary Webber buried St Marychurch Torquay 5 Oct 1788
The marriage record of her parents remains uncertain -
only this one comes anywhere near .
John Webber married Mary Tucker 28 Oct 1770 at Wolborough Newton Abbot,
Issot or Isset was born in 1788 & appears to have been their only child
Richard Pomeroy and Isott Webber were married in Rotherhithe, (London) on 20th Sept 1807. Their only child , a son & my 3x great grandfather, Augustus Stephen Jeffery Pomery was born 2 August 1817, some 10 years after Richard and Issott were married.
Augustus Pomeroy married Sarah Georgiana Moore in 1838 with her father present at the ceremony . She was daughter of a remarkable woman. Our 3 times great grandmother Sarah Hornblow married 4 times ( once bigamously) and had 11 children. First marriage was to George Moore in 1810 by whom she had 3 children Mary Catherine in 1811, Sarah Georgiana in 1813 & John Cotton Moore. In 1816, Sarah married again this time bigamously her new ‘husband’ was John Cadle. In 1820 with the first 3 of their 6 children, they migrated to South Africa taking Sarah 1st daughter, Mary Catherine Moore, and leaving Sarah and John behind presumably with their father George Moore.
How they met and what on earth they were doing in Rotherhithe remains unclear . Richard may well have gone to West Teignmouth to work. I like to think he went there and stayed with the Pomeroy family in West Teignmouth and met Issot there. How else might they have met? BUT I cannot prove it .
I have yet to discover how they got to London but as Teignmouth was a busy fishing port and trading ships went regularly along the south coast to London it seems reasonable to surmise they travelled by boat.
In our process of discovery we have checked the transcript parish registers for Werrington. It is a small parish and there are relatively few entries. The parish clerk extracted all the Pomery's for us. We have Richard's marriage and his death certificate but it was the 1851 census return that finally found him.
His date of christening 7 Jan 1781, concurs with the age he gives on the census. He died in 1859 at his son’s home Albert Dock House in Liverpool . We have been unable to find a Will for him in the will indexes at the Family Record Centre so were very interested in the list of will abstracts that Virginia Graham has transcribed. This proved not to have a will recorded for Richard. However his son Augustus Stephen and his grandsons are included.
We have quite a lot of peripheral information about Richard which Pat had found in SOG and other places .
We know where he lived and worked in London and Pat has been tracing that with the various sources in London. We know when and where he died in Liverpool . The census return for 1851 fitted him so well that we are satisfied that it is him and it led us to Werrington.
Richard Pomery was taken on as an extra check clerk at East India Dock Company in Stepney on Aug 4th 1809 and paid £1.11.6 a week. Six years later in 1815 he had been promoted to a permanent check clerk.
By June 12 1827 he had been promoted to a 3rd clerk 3rd division in the General Office and on 8 August 1828 was a 2nd clerk 2nd division in the General Office. He was obviously doing well at this point because in 1829 he became a ships ledger clerk with a wage of £140 p.a
In 1842 his salary was increased to £165 and rose by £5 a year for the next couple of years. He was pensioned off on 21st October 1853 when he was still a ships ledger clerk and earning £175 p.a. He was paid a pension of £60 p.a.after he retired. Hs wife Issot had died of typhoid in in 1850 & he died 9 years later in Liverpool at his home of his son Augustus on 22/7/1859
From 1841 they lived in Green Street in Stepney, probably in a house provided by the company, when he began work as a clerk in the East India Dock.
1841 census 46 Green Street Stepney
Richard Pomeroy age 55 clerk at East India Docks born Werrington Cornwall
Issot Webber Pomeroy age 50 his wife born West Teignmouth in Devon
Augustus Pomery age 20 son clerk in EIDocks born Stepney
Sarah Georgina (Moore) age 20 daughter in law born Colchester
Georgiana Augusta age 1daughter of Augustus born Stepney
Mary Livermoor age 15 servant girl
Green Street seen here is no more
Augustus changed the spelling of his surname from the Cornish Pomery to Pomeroy. He was initially employed, like his father as a check clerk with EIDC . They lived in Green Street Stepney with her parents .
children of Augustus Pomeroy and his wife Sarah were
Georgiana Augusta Pomeroy christening: 8 September 1839 SAINT DUNSTAN, STEPNEY, married Dr George Shearer 1868 went to China 1869 (AJP's the Shearer Line) died 1922
Augustus Frederick Brett Pomeroy Born Stepney 1841 married Elizabeth Jackson and had 2 sons Edgar & Campbell who migrated to CA in 1888 He died of TB in 1871 and his window & their sons migrated to CA in 1888
James Richard Webber Pomeroy Born Stepney 1845 died 1889 of typhoid at his brother London house in Islington (Pat Smith’s & Tony Pom in Ausi’s)
In 1846 Augustus resigned East India Docks Company in Stepney and took employment with Royal Albert Docks Liverpool where they had more children -
Harrison Hornblow Pomeroy Born Liverpool 1847 Died in Infancy
Rev. Harrison Albert Pomeroy Born 1850 Died 1927 Clerk of Holy Orders Married Mary Jane Irvine Daughter Mary Elsie born 1890
Rev. Walter William Pomeroy Born 1854 Married Maria Wire from Colchester No Children
Edmund Molyneaux Pomeroy born Liverpool 1851 Died in infancy
John Pomeroy Born 1855 Died in infancy
Augustus and Sarah Pomeroy had eight children and he too started out in the Docks in London , moving to Liverpool in 1846 where he changed the spelling of family name from Pomery to Pomeroy and took up a clerical post with Royal Albert Docks Authority.
He went on to become Superintendent of the Offices and Receiver of Charges for the famous Albert Dock of Liverpool, until he retired to Liscard on the Wirrel .
In the census of 1881 we find him living in Fountains Lodge Liscard with his widowed daughter- in- law Elizabeth Pomeroy nee Jackson and his two grandsons Edgar and Campbell. These two young men migrated to USA with their mother in 1889 and settled in the Oakland area of San Francisco..
where they appeared in the 1900 census
The marriage of Richard & Issot was witnessed by Thomas Webber and Elizabeth Giles (the Giles name appears later in the family as a guest in the house in the 1881 census. Why they were in Rotherhithe is a mystery. However it is a port and this theme runs throughout this family history.
Isset or Issot Webber, was from West Teignmouth (another port) born in 1788 to John Webber and Mary.
East India Dock Company in 1803. A parliamentary act of that year created the East India Dock Company and granted it a 21 year monopoly for trading with the far east. The HEIC's existing facilities at Blackwall (the old Brunswick Dock which was used for fitting out and repairing ships) were enlarged and became part of the new East India Docks
Almost everything came to London via the docks and quays of the Thames: tea, china, drugs, muslins, cotton yarn, pepper and spices, silks, sugar, rum, coffee, ginger, gums, elephants' teeth, palm oil, wine, skins, hemp, iron, shipping masts, and of course people. In the 18th century, congestion on the waterways led to major dock building such as West India Docks on the Isle of Dogs (1802), and Surrey docks at Rotherhithe (1807)
The tea trade alone was worth £30 million per year with other goods traded through the dock including spices, indigo, silk and Persian carpets. Spice merchants and pepper grinders were situated in the general vicinity of the dock, ready to receive the goods to process and sell.
In 1807, the Commercial Dock Company bought the Greenland Dock at Rotherhithe. It was used for the North European trade in timber, hemp, iron, tar and corn. The company eventually owned all the docks built at Rotherhithe over the following 70 years. These included: the Baltic Dock (1809) the East Country Dock/South Dock (1807) the Norway Dock (1811) the Albion Dock (1860) the Canada Dock (1876).
In June 2 2003. Annie went to the Devon Records Office and found Richard in the Bishops Transcripts and in the South West Studies Library she found more of the family in Werrington transcription.
Pat contacted the OLPC and by 2004 we had a message from the OLPC in Australia. Then we had a whole lot more..
The Pomerys of our family who appeared in Lewennick in 1720's They came from nearby Trewen and then there is a blank space because DNA reveals they line came from Holne and Ashburton which is close to Ilsington and the cadet line there
Pat Smith nee Moore & Annie, who has taken the Pomeroy name, are 3rd Cousins, and with Richard Anthony Pomeroy, called Tony, in Australia share a four times great - grandfather Augustus Stephen Jeffery Pomeroy (son of Richard and Issot Pomery)
On the other side of the Atlantic Front Royal in Virginia are DNA cousins descended from Richard Pomeroy who migrated from Millstreet in Cork in Ireland .There was Charles Wilson Pomeroy,(Chuck) who died in 2008 , whose family tree goes to Cork in Ireland from about 1750 - one or more of our ancestors having gone there from Devon and Cornwall and DNA reveals from the Ashburton & Holne group who were children of younger sons of the Ingsdon armorial family in nearby Ilsington Parish .
In Australia there was a direct descendent from our immediate family , Richard Anthony (Tony) Pomeroy who had been hunting for our four times great - grandfather Richard Pomery's origins for a very long time. In 2003 Pat posted a message on the POMEROLOGY guest book and within days there was a message to say that he was in the 1851 census. Tony had also been paying genealogist to find the connection that brought the Hornblow name into the family for years without success. Before he died Annie found that connection which led to Sarah Hornblow our 3x great grandmother, and extraordinary woman
1-The Family in Liverpool 2- Migration to California
When Richard was married in Rotherhithe in 1807 to Issot Webber from West Teignmouth . She was born in 1788, daughter of John and Mary Webber. On his marriage lines there are witnesses
Elizabeth Giles. & Thomas Webber
My friend Jenny B did some research and discovered Elizabeth was daughter of Pearce Giles .....his name was actually Thomas Augustus Pearce Giles born twin to Thomas Richard Pearce Giles St Dunstans Stepney s/o Joseph Giles ( mariner RN) and wife Elizabeth .
Mother has to be Elizabeth WEBBER! She married Joseph Giles in Stoke Damerel 1801.
The other witness was Thomas Webber & Isott's father John had brother Thomas Webber ;
Elizabeth Webber OTP Marriage ( age 25 ) by Banns 11 Mar 1801 at Stoke Damerel (Plymouth ) to Joseph Giles Master of
the merchant ship Elizabeth; her possible Aunt was Elizabeth Webber Baptism 14 Dec 1770 Father William Webber Mother Dorothy West Teignmouth County simple entry without elaborations and likely sister to her father John and his brothers William and Thomas
TWINS Thomas Augustus Pearce Giles Born 25 Aug 1816 in Stepney s/o Joseph Giles. - Master mariner in Royal Navy and his wife Elizabeth.
Also there was Thomas Richard Pearce Giles b St Dunstans Stepney baptised on the same day. I suspect these were twins because Mary Bertha had twin siblings
Thomas Augustus P Giles Married Maria Mooney Hill
It looks like Giles family were living in Stepney around the same time as Augustus S.J.Pomeroy was born and they remained friends.
Thomas Augustus Pearce Giles was seemingly given the name Augustus possibly naming baby for a good friend.
Thomas a dock officer & used his last christian name Pearce - in 1841 he shared a house with his widowed mother and sister
1841 Census Globe Terrace, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England -
today post war development gives little clue as to what this was like.
Charles Twinning 30 B 1811 Middlesex, England dock officer (did he know Richard Pomeroy as a clerk for the EID C ?? )
Ann Twinning 30 B 1811 -wife
William Twinning 7 B 1834 Middlesex, England
Mary Twinning 5 B 1836 Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Giles 60 B 1781 -independent means - widow
Pearce Giles son 25 B 1816 Middlesex, England occupation tutor
Emily Giles dau 20 B 1821
the record doesn't say if they were tenants or visitors
Elizabeth Giles nee Webber OTP of Stoke Damerell Marriage ( age 25 ) by Banns 11 Mar 1801 to Joseph Giles recorded on the certificate as Master of the Ship Elizabeth - both signed their names , witnessed by Thomas Webber and Marina May
Joseph Giles the Master his ship the ' Elizabeth' - died 1818 Index of Death Duty IR27/165 - executor of his Will looks like Hannah Giles
Mr Joseph Giles Born 1758 son of Joseph Giles of Westlake in Ermington died age 60 buried July 19 1818 in Ermington, Devon, England
The family home an estate called WESTLAKE for which, in 1774, Joseph Giles paid parish dues of 1s /7d 1/4 farthing in 1774
Joseph Giles is a church warden
Parish records also show that in 1788 the parish clerk received from Joseph Giles £ 4/3/4 d for his bastard child by Ann Sanover
Thomas Augustus Giles, his son, used his name Pearce & gave his children unusual names. He was a civil servant who worked in the prison service .
Pearce Giles was an accountant at Dartmoor prison in 1851 and in 1871 was civil servant in the prison on the Isle of Wight . Died 1887. When at Dartmoor prison in Lidford his wife and children are recorded at being in 52, George Street, Stoke Damerel, Devon in 1851.
The Giles children
Percival Mordans Pearce b 1842 married Eliza Moore b 1837 died 1921 Jamaica ( mother in law's maiden name )
Caroline Emma Gray Giles 1845
Alfred Asen Giles b 1847
Jennietta Edith b1851
Josephine Blaugh b 1851 twin
Katherine Frances b 1852
Mary Bertha b 1854 d 1926 married 1874 in New Chicago Kansas USA to Luther Cone b 1842 d 1916
Edwin Bertram Giles born 1855-born Gosport Hampshire by 1881 he seems to have become a cab proprietor living at 15, Willow Plot, Plymouth St Andrew, Plymouth, with wife Mary Anne & son Fred.
By 1901 he is a hansom cab driver and groom ( horse drawn cabs ) with 3 more children
Stoke Damerel directory
Giles John, Shopkeeper, Quarry street. ; Giles Joseph, Brewer, Market street; & Giles William, Baker, 11 Fore street.
Stoke Damerel here
Family Search tree
Alfred Ernest Giles was listed as an insurance agent at 25 Maristow Avenue, Ford, in 1914. [1914/D&C]
Ann Giles, aged 72 years, of Paradise Row, was buried at Stoke Damerel Parish Church on March 2nd 1836. [DFHS/CD004]
Ida Giles, of Saint Austell, daughter of a Gunner's Mate, Royal Navy, was an inmate of the Royal British Female Orphan Asylum in July 1894.
Mary Giles, aged 77 years, of Granby Street, was buried at Stoke Damerel Parish Church on April 18th 1828. [DFHS/CD004]
Mary Giles, aged 75 years, of the Workhouse, was buried at Stoke Damerel Parish Church on September 2nd 1830. [DFHS/CD004]
Mary Ann Giles was listed as having lodgings at Mutton Cove in 1852. [1852]
John Giles, shopkeeper, was listed as resident at 20 Quarry Street in 1852. [1852]
William Giles, baker, was listed as a resident of 11 Fore Street in 1830. [1830]
William Giles, aged 80 years, of Charlotte Street, was buried at Stoke Damerel Parish Church on November23rd 1836. [DFHS/CD004]
John b 1762 father of Issot who married in 1770 cannot be a son of Wiliam Webber & his wife Dorothy Skinner
The dates are wrong
William & Dorothy
William Webber Mariner on HMS Hero a 74 gun ship of the line married Dorothy Skinner OTP in Stoke Damerel (Plymouth) 17 Aug 1761
Both made their cross in the register. Married by William Cleveland Captain of HMS Fame a 72 gun ship of the line in service during the Seven Years' War and the American Revolutionary War.
Children were
John Webber Bb 2 Dec 1762 son of William & Dorothy. He marries Mary Tucker and they only child was Isoot born in 1888
some 10 years after they married; Issot married Richard Pomeroy in 1806 Deptford
William Webber Bb 7 July 1764 to William & Dorothy
Elizabeth Webber Bb 14 Dec 1770 to William & Dorothy
James Webber Bb11 Oct 1778 to William & Dorothy
Richard Bb11 Nov 1775 to William & Dorothy
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