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GONE TO BRIXHAM 

A generational link....? 

James Pomeroy M.  ELIZABETH DOLBEAR m 15 JAN 1748  Buckfastleigh, Devon, died &  buried 13 Feb 1835 St Mary’s Church Brixham, Devon.

  JAMES POMERY Bb  26 DEC 1749 Buckfastleigh, Devon, England son of James & Elizabeth.


 this is NOT the same person as Brixham James dying in 1861 because he would have been 112 in 1861 but either his son or grandson

Buckfastleigh

Historic observation   - Tallow Chandlers / soap & candle makers, became grocers as candle making dwindled  & with it the role of tallow chandler .The introduction of alternatives followed , first gas lighting and then electricity.
Street  lighting with gas was demonstrated in Pall Mall, London, on January 28, 1807 . By 1816  most London streets were lit by gas .  It was not until 1859 that gas was used for interior lighting ;  the gas mantle was being used  for interior lighting by 1897.
Electricity was introduced In 1882 with the Electric Light Act  following the first public electricity generator in Godalming, Surrey. 

I found this wonderful trove of images of Brixham...
 

King Street Brixham

2 MEN  both JAMES POMEROY IN BRIXHAM - one a grocer - the other a tallow chandler. - 

Father & son

James Pomeroy   a Tallow Chandler married Brixham to Susanna Ingram 8 Dec 1807James born 1751 died 1835  his wife  Susanna Ingram born 1785 died buried 17 may 1833

children
Susanna Ingram Pomeroy B 7 Sept 1811- Bp 29 Sept 1811 dau of James & Susanna-    Married  1 May 1833 by licence to Charles William Anderson COX  of Brixham 

1841 Susanna Cox DOB 1816 age 26 & her 6 year old daughter Susan show up  in Higher Street, Brixham, minus husband suggesting  he was a mariner - with 2 year old Elizabeth Potbury her niece      
1851 her birthdate is corrected  1812 & she is recorded as mariners wife ; has 3 daughters;
16 year old Susan is a dressmaker with Mary & Jane age 8 & 1 

Elizabeth Ingram Pomeroy  Bp 24 May 1813  Wesleyan Methodists  married 1836 William Potbury  
1851 Census Elizabeth was with her parents  William Potbury grocer & draper & his wife Elizabeth Pomeroy in Horsepool St., Brixham

 James son of James & Susanna Pomeroy -Wesleyan Methodists B 5 Sept 1819 Bp 26 Sept 1819
James Pomeroy a widower & former grocer from Brixham , son of James Pomeroy  a grocer - married Jane Wills spinster daughter of George Will of Torquay... occupation indecipherable  - possibly a mariner  27 June 1838 at Tormoham ( Torquay ) from image his mother died age 38 - 2 weeks after her daughter  Susanna's wedding in 1833 -  

 

Also found; 2 generations of Thomas Pomeroy living, presumably in the same house, in King St.  Brixham

Thomas Pomeroy Bb 18 June 1795 son of James & Joanna Pomeroy in Brixham

he  married age 22 to Susanna Saunders in 9 July 1817 .in Brixham

1841 Census  Brixham, Totnes, Devon, 

Thomas age 46 b 1795 Grocer in King St Brixham died 1857 Wesleyan Methodists.
wife Susan age 46
son John age 11 b 1830 - B 18 Nov 1829 Bap 31 Jan 1830;
John age 20 , master cabinet maker, son of Thomas Pomeroy gentleman  who was married  in Tormoham 28 Oct  1848  to Emma Hall age 30 dau of Charles Hall Watchmaker


1851 Brixham census
Thomas Pomeroy B 1796  in   King Street  Brixham,  age 55 was a Grocer & tea dealer
  with wife Susan age 55

children
son John Bb 21 Oct 1821 died at 2 months
Thomas jnr   born 1822 baptised in Kingsbridge  in Aug 1822 on the  Wesleyan Methodists circuit
son of Thomas Pomeroy sen. a grocer  &his wife Susanna,  recorded as Brixham residents  

1851 Thomas Pomeroy  jnr Bb 1822 teacher of drawing married 1850 Totnes to Susanna Jones Green
Susanna Saunders Pomeroy Bb 1827 Bp 6 Jan 1828  daughter of Thomas Pomeroy & his wife Susanna Wesleyan Methodists died 30 Jan 1829 age 16 months 

1851 Mount Pleasant, Brixham, Totnes, Devon, England

James age 66 B 1785 candle manufacturer (Tallow Chandler)  retired  born  PAIGNTON- 

his wife. Jane (Wills )   age 66


1841 census  Horsepool Street Brixham - see top 2 images above  

 James & Jane are both recorded as age 55 EDB 1786 of independent means   


1861 Horsepool Street Brixham  

James a widower age 77 B 1784 retired grocer 

and  granddaughter Mary E Cox age 18  unmarried  housekeeper her mother being Susanna Ingram Pomeroy who in 1833 married Chrles COX - daughter of the Tallow Chandler

 Jane Pomeroy died just before the 1861 Census age 77 30 March 1861- if she was Jane born 1781 she was 81

 James Died age 77 on 15 Dec 1861 buried  at St Mary Brixham

Probate 31 Dec 1861 Executor his daughter  Elizabeth Potbury wife of William Potbury of Cullumpton  - estate under  £100 

other records

Baptism -  Susan Reed Izatt Pomeroy Bb 7 July 1825 dau of Phillip Lyde Pomeroy a merchant and his wife Sally Ann Pomeroy

Marraige - Susan Reed Izatt Pomeroy Marriage age 21 by banns 12 April 1846 in Lower Brixham to Edward Peters of Lower Brixham, a mariner son of John Peters,  a cooper

Baptism -  Susanna Saunders Pomeroy Baptism in Lower Brixham 7 Jan 1828 Bb to Thomas Pomeroy  a grocer & his wife & Susanna 

Mount Pleasant Street area

Brixham in 1750. Two young men ,John and James Pomeroy  had businesses and families  & claimed to descend from the noble family.

 All the town knows that is True.  If they didn't, the locals would have run them out of town. Instead, one marries Mary Narracott whose family has been in Stoke Gabriel for centuries.

The other marries a Scoble from nearby Totnes.

Three generations later descendants from the Scoble marriage go to Canada bringing their tradition with them. And it is passed down to today.

It was the same with Eltweed. Except generations earlier. He was known here as "being of good family."

There were others of good family in his group, even Lady Arrabella Johnson, yet no one said he was putting on airs. They knew. A couple of hundred years Later, and 100 years ago  A.A. Pomeroy  had the money to pay researchers in England to help find the link. And to create a book. He was as confident as Pat is today that he didn't have to create the link...it was there somewhere.

Also, he was also creating a record of all the living Pomeroys in the USA, not unlike that which Tony started in the UK years ago 

Monastic holdings, settlements or foundations associated with the Pomeroy family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_monastic_houses_in_England#Devon

Buckfast Monastery founded by Savignac monks  from Savigny ; founded 27 April 1136 by Ethelwerd, son of William Pomerei; built on site of Benedictine monastery at Buckfast

AJP NOTES  Savigny-le-Vieux (Manche), in northern France was founded early in the 12th century. Initially it was the central house of the Congregation of Savigny, who were Benedictines; by 1150 it was Cistercian.

William appears to have been 2nd son of Ranulph - William de la Pomeroy  who in 1102 donated the manor of Berry (Pomeroy) to Gloucester Abbe  during the abbacy of Serlo abbot from 1072–1104  (Serlo was a Norman monk of Mont St. Michel, in France & was appointed by William the Conqueror.)

The gift was redeemed by his brother Joscelin  in exchange for Seldene ( Sheldon near Cullumpton )  - there appears to some dispute over who was heir - Visitations has the heir as Joscelin - William de Pomeroy donated 1/4 of a knight's fee in St Omer in Normandy to the "Abbey of Val in St Omer" &  died without progeny at some time before 1114.

Dunkeswell Abbey Cistercian daughter house of Forde, Dorset; This abbey was founded in 1201 by William Briwere as a Cistercian monastery and offshoot of Forde Abbey.NOTES founded 16 November 1201 by William Briwere; dissolved 1539 & granted to John, Lord Russell 1534/5;  

AJP NOTES Brewer had close connections with Pomeroy family With Baron Henry Pomeroy dead by his own hand in 1194 and his brother Jocselin  out of sight as a monk in Forde Abbey until 1199 . King John assigned to the custody of the Berry Pomeroy barony to William Brewer, a prominent but deeply unpopular administrator and judge. He held numerous positions as Sheriff and may well have been the model for  Wicked Sheriff of Nottingham from the tales of Robin Hood. The 3rd baron Henry Pomeroy was probably under age when his father killed himself and the Baron lands were lost under the attainer.

Briwere became a major landholder , founded & endowed three monasteries including Torre Abbey, in Torquay in 1196.  Mottisfont Abbey in Hampshire in 1201; and Dunkeswell Abbey in Devon in 1201.

According to Risdon, the lands of William Brewer in Devon formed a feudal barony,  but this does not appear on the list of baronies given by Pole (died 1635),  nor is it recognised by Sanders (1960).  Risdon stated that Brewer held close to thirty knight's fees (usually synonymous with manors) in Devon. His Devonshire landholdings included: Buckland Brewer Tor Brewer, later called Tor Mohun, Holsworthy, Ugborough Bradworthy Wolborough, which  he gave to his foundation of Torre Abbey.

Additional note - Briwere got his hands on Berry Pomeroy circa 1199 - the custom of sending sons to be brought up in another family of equal status could make this man the person who had ward of the Pomeroy heir 3rd baron Henry - baron Henry had to pay a HUGE fee for use & livery of his ancestral lands under Richard II -  700 marks worth around £600,000 in todays terms . Young Henry was married to Alice De Vere dau of the Earl of Oxford

Trebeigh Preceptory Knights Templar (purportedly); Knights Hospitaller  founded before 1199 "by the bounty of " Henry de Pomeral and Reginald Marsh; united with Ansty before 1432; dissolved after 1557/8 & granted to Henry Wilby and George Blythe 1573/4

AJP NOTES  Trebeigh Manor is St Ive (Eve)  https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1140827

Long time ago  found connections to Strode family in St Ive & St Cleer- 

From Historic Manuscripts Archive ~ the Strode family ; ...... Newnham Park in Plympton St Mary Devonand Stoke Fleming in Devon

Callington, in Cornwall; St Cleer ( the manor was called Trebeigh). St Ive , (close to St Cleer and both in Liskeard District of Cornwall), Hemerdon, Shaugh


DARTMOUTH 

Nicholas Roope member of an ancient family from Dartmouth was a Nonconformist who welcomed William of Orange when he landed at Brixham in 1688 -

 he  married Jane Pomeroy dau of Valentine Pomeroy by his 1st wife Jane Reynell in 1643

Nicholas Roope Esquire listed with other familiar names

'William and Mary, 1688: An Act for a Grant to Their Majestyes of an Ayd of Two shillings in the Pound for One Yeare.

 [Chapter I. Rot. Parl. pt. 2.]', Statutes of the Realm: volume 6: 1685-94

A Rental of Warfleet, 1600-1615: Four Mills and a Ropewalk.

A rental from the time of Sir George Southcote for 1600-1615 has survived, showing that there was by this time a sizeable community living in Warfleet. The

leading family were now the Roopes, a family with several branches who though not yet freeholders were wealthy farmers, merchants and shipowners. They held farms at Week, and Little Dartmouth farm which included the whole of Gallants Bower.

Nicholas Roope the Younger held "A very fair new built house and quay at Walflete". As a merchant trading extensively to Europe and Newfoundland, he could use his own quay and avoid paying dues to Dartmouth Corporation. It must have been busy with ships unloading their cargoes. The Roopes were buried in St. Petrox church, where there are fine brasses of John Roope who died in 1608, and his married daughters Barbara Plumleigh and Dorothy Rous.


The Civil War in Warfleet, 1642-9.

At the outbreak of the Civil War in 1642 Ambrose Roope son of the above John owned Little Dartmouth while his cousin Nicholas Roope owned Warfleet Quay, the new house on it and the two farms at Week. Ambrose took no part in the war and may have been a Royalist, but Nicholas strongly supported Parliament as did Dartmouth Corporation. Having helped with building defences in Dartmouth, Nicholas then raised and armed a troop of 200 soldiers which he took to help defend Plymouth. While he was away, his property was attacked and plundered.

When Dartmouth prepared for the expected attack by the Royalist forces under Prince Maurice the area round Warfleet and the Castle was of vital importance. A road block was built above Warfleet mills. The old fort at Paradise was strengthened with ironwork and guns mounted there. The castle was manned, and guns supplied with powder, while the chain was stretched across the river to Godmerock on the Kingswear side. Prince Maurice besieged the town for a month before attacking it along the Warfleet valley in October 1643. Clearing the roadblock by the mills he next seized Paradise Fort, from where his guns could fire on the castle. The town was forced to surrender, and for three years was occupied by the Royalists.

Nicholas Roope who died in 1681 was never a member of the Corporation after the Restoration, when Charles II's Cavalier Parliament made a law that only Anglicans could serve on town councils.
When James II fled from England in 1688 and William of Orange landed at Brixham another Nicholas Roope,  junior, claimed that he was the first gentlemen who went to pledge his allegiance to him. In January 1689 he was rewarded by being appointed Governor of Dartmouth Castle by William as soon as he was accepted as king.

Jane  Reynell married Valentine Pomeroy 1615 Sir Richard Reynell built Forde House in Newton Abbott  nephews Richard of Ogwell and Thomas were servers to King Charles I.
Lucy Lady Reynell founded a hospital house 1638 NA. The family also owned the manor of East Ogwell  where Elizabeth the unmarried daughter of  Hugh  Pomeroy  and Barbara Southcot lived & died in 1627

 Between the reigns of King John and Henry V, the Reynells 'were ever men of great credit, fidelity, and service, to their Kings, country and state as well in peace matters as wars' They had great 'revenues, offices, lordships and lands, in sundry shires' including Somerset, Cambridgeshire and Yorkshire, but their greatest possessions were in Devon and Cornwall.

By the end of this period these included Malston (Old and New), Netherton, Frogmere, East Ogwell, Butterley, Sandhulk, Ellacombe, Crews-Morchard, Upton, Hidswell, Nootcombe, East and West Thwangley, Nassey, East-Raddon, Colebrook, Trebarch, Trebligha, Hyerland, Watringdon, Overcombe, Upbutterley, Nethercombe, Carpenters Fosse, Cottesbury, Ley, South-Downs, Shernewicke, Pittes, Eastabrook, Snedon, Penmalth, Overhosdon, Polhele, Tremollow, Wiero, St. Germans, Bodmin and lands in other villages and in Plymouth.

Sir Richard Reynell 4th son  of George Reynell of Malston by Joan, da. of Lewis Fortescue of Fallowpit or Fulpit, baron of the Exchequer. educ. New Inn; Middle Temple 1585, called to the bar on 1594. married  1593, Mary, da. and coh. of John Peryam, 2sons 7daughters Knighted. 1622. Died 1631

there was also  his distant cousin, Richard Reynell  of East Ogwell, Devon, had been a close friend of Sir Peter Carew, a relative of the patron.

Sir Richard Reynell (c.1558–1633), was an English lawyer and Member of Parliament,  was the third son of Richard Reynell (1519–1585) of East Ogwell in Devon.

Richard followed his two older brothers, Thomas and Josias into the Middle Temple and in 1617 he was a barrister and Autumn Reader there. In 1593 he was probably Member of Parliament for the Cornish rotten borough of Mitchell together with Walter Raleigh. In the same year of 1593 he was a clerk in the office of the Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer and rose to the rank of senior sworn clerk, known as the "secondary".  On 25 July 1622 he was knighted at Theobalds House.

Purchase of Forde, Wolborough
The Old Forde house  - John Gaverock's three daughters inherited (OLd) Forde House and, towards the close of the sixteenth century, sold it to Richard Reynell of the Middle Temple, an eminent lawyer and officer in the Court of the Exchequer, a son of Richard Reynell, the lord of the adjoining manor of East Ogwell.
He married Lucy Brandon whose father was sometime Chamberlain of the City of London. Soon after Richard and Lucy Reynell had acquired the manor they set about building themselves a fine new house at Forde.  


The present house bears the date 1610 and is built in the shape of the letter E, commonly thought to be in honour of Queen Elizabeth 1, who had just died. It is, architecturally, a plain, substantial structure built of roughcasted stone in the Elizabethan style  seen here right

At about the time of his marriage to  in 1600 he bought the estate of Forde in the parish of Wolborough, near Newton Abbot, Devon and immediately set about rebuilding the house.  Forde House was visited by King Charles I in 1625 both on his way to and on his return from viewing the fleet at Plymouth.  According to John Prince's The Worthies of Devon, published circa 1701:

    "Unto this house, King Charles I, of gracious memory, came, attended on by the Duke of Buckingham, and other great lords, September, 15th 1625, and was pleased to take up his lodging there. The next day his majesty conferred the honour of knighthood in the dining room of that house, on Richard Reynell, of West Ogwell, and on Thomas Reynell, his brother, who at the time, was his majesty's servant, and sewer in ordinary, to his person, in presence of their wives and divers lords and ladies saying to them, "God give you joy!"

After the Civil War the Courtnays lived at Forde House until Powderham Castle was made habitable after the damage inflicted  in 1646 by the Roundheads.
Sir William Courtenay was married to Margaret Waller & heir to her grandfather Sir Richard Reynell of Ford House,

Courtenay gave lip service to the beginning of reign of William of Orange , king William III , and held a banquet at the new Forde House in 1688 when William arrived in England.  However Courtenay did not attend for feast for fear that the 'cause ' might fail.  

Fence sitting 17th style  -

Gittisham near Honiton is listed as a 'Seat' for Pomeroy family - barn now listed

 Thomas Pomeroy of Gittisham-

Coombe House Gittisham now a very elegant Country House Hotel . It has  VERY ancient origins having originally been built in the 11th Century as a Great Hall with rooms above for the owner , by the de Lumine family. It passed to Sir Henry Willington in the early C13, and was subsequently acquired by the Beaumont family and developed over the centuries 

 The Beaumonts from Devon  1424 - 1453 Combe and Gittisham were the inheritance of the Beaumont family who lived in Yolstone in the Parish of Shirwell near Barnstaple. Whether or not they lived at Combe at all is unknown.

It also seems likely that while the head of the family lived at Yolstone, some other member of the family may have lived at Combe.

 William, the eldest son of Sir Thomas Beaumont, having first passionately courted, and at length married, a young Lady of an Honourable House in this County, for which reason I shall conceal her Name. After a while, some other Fancy possessing him, he estranged himself both as to her Bed and Board, and went away to London, where he lived from her two years, then died. His Lady took this, at first, very unkindly, and for a while lived very retired . Until, at length, she began to admit the visits of her Friends, among which one, doing more familiarity than became him, she proved with child, and in due time her Son was born, and bred up secretly, and without suspicion.”

 By the time this son John was grown up, the Beaumonts were dying out in the male line, and finally when his Uncle Hugh died, there was no apparent heir. Both the Basset and the Chichester families laid claim to the Beaumont inheritance, but meanwhile John, whose existence wasn't even suspected, entered upon the Beaumont lands and claimed them as being the lawful son of William Beaumont.

 A later Beaumont sold the property to Nicholas Putt. and the family owned the estate from 1614- 1846.


Pomeroy House is a gorgeous thatched pre Georgian Manor house just outside Gittinsham said to have been owned in 1657 by a John Pomeroy
The Parish record seem to indicate a Pomeroy family lived in the village around thta time

 

Pomeroys in GITTISHAM near Honiton EAST DEVON

Pomerye     Jone  1585     Devon Baptisms     Gittisham, 

Pommerye John M  15 May 1585  married a widow from Whitford . He was servant of Mr William ?de la Pole ??)
Pomery     Rycharde. 1591 Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomory     Thomas   1590  Burials     Honiton, Devon,
Pamerye    Thomas  Bb 11 Jun 1598 Gittisham, Devon,   register gives NPN
Pomroy     Thomas  1685  Burials     Gittisham,  
Pomeroy  William  1601    Marriages     Gittisham, Devon, 
Pomeroy     John    1628      Wills Index, Gittisham, Devon, England    Pomery John  1628  Burials Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     Jone     1600  Devon Burials Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     Mary     1613   Marriages     Gittisham, 
Pomery     Mary       1633     Devon Wills Index    Gittisham, Devon     Pomerye     William   1601     Devon Marriages     Gittisham, Devon,  Pumery     Marie   1633     Devon Burials     Gittisham, Devon, Eng.. Pomeroy     John 1628     Devon Wills Index,  Gittisham, Devon, 
Pomeroy     John 1742    Burials Gittisham, Devon,
Pomeroy     Thomas 1678   Burials     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomeroy     Thoms   1678   Burials     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomeroy     William   1734  Burials     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomroy     Marks 1654      Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon, 
Pomery     Elizabeth 1642  Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon, Eng Pomery     John     1628   Burials     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     John 1636  Devon Baptisms Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     John     1646   Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     John  1668     Burials     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     John 1743     Devon Wills Index Gittisham, Devon,    Pomery     Jone   1600 Burials     Gittisham, Pomery  Marke    1654    Baptisms  Gittisham, Devon,  Pomery     Mary      1613 Marriages     Gittisham, Devon,
Pomery     Mary 1633    Wills Index   Gittisham, Devon,      

 Pomery     Thomas   1641 Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon,  Pomery     Thomas 1648 Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon,  Pomery     William  1639  Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon,  Pomroy     Mary   1684     Burials     Gittisham, Devon, 
Pomroy     Mary   1689    Burials     Gittisham, Devon, 
Pomroy     Thomas  1685 Burials     Gittisham, Devon, 
Pumery     Marie      1633  Burials     Gittisham, 
Pomery     William   1701   Banns of Marriage    Gittisham, Pomery     William     1701 Marriages Gittisham, Devon, Pomery     William     1639 Baptisms     Gittisham, Devon,  Pomery     William     1701   Banns 1538-1915     Gittisham
Pomery     William     1701  Marriage     Gittisham,
Pomroy     Mary 1684 Burials Gittisham, Devon, England
Pomroy     Mary 1689  Burials Gittisham, Devon, England

source FMP/ IGI NPD- No Parents Named

HONITON is 3 miles from Ottery St Mary and Gittisham here