Chocothunda says:
So yes...Marble Hornets...
Chocothunda says:
What to say about that...
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other than...
Chocothunda says:
fuck that series o.O
Decon says:
I'm going to come out and say first and foremost that though I'm a fan, I haven't been following it recently... I got distracted by other things
Decon says:
namely Burn Notice
Decon says:
last entry I saw was probably the one where Alex murdered a guy. so I'm probably waaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind 8D
Chocothunda says:
Ooooooh yeah o.O
Chocothunda says:
That part in particular was a huge "WHAT THE FUCK!" moment, seeing how things seemed to be spiraling out of control the entire time
Chocothunda says:
And Jay was just filming it all o.O
Chocothunda says:
See, THIS is why some adventure characters are dumb
Decon says:
where things every really in control in Marble Hornets? I just like to assume it went downhill from day one
Decon says:
well, less downhill,
Decon says:
more 'falling off of everest'
Chocothunda says:
It's like one of them slopes that starts off steep, but is manageable
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then all of a sudden,
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"WHY SO STEEP, CAN'T GET FOOTING"
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then screaming.
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Cept the screaming sort of catches up to ya after you hit the bottom.
Chocothunda says:
Cause some moments in Marble Hornets get ya when you're thinking about it later D:
Chocothunda says:
See any kind of camera distortion here.
Decon says:
all the best horror works do, they say
Chocothunda says:
This is pretty true.
Chocothunda says:
The way how the series cues its bad shit is pretty nice: ranging from subtle, to blaring.
Chocothunda says:
like that first hit of audio distortion in one of the earlier entries D:
Decon says:
Yeah, you can tell the people behind it aren't just overly ambitious teens; the guys clearly know their craft when it comes to effectivily dishing out the horror
Decon says:
it's kind of hard to see where exactly the story is going beyond each entry we're given I admit, but that actually works in the stories favor, given the intended mind screwwiness of the series at large
Decon says:
i just hope the payoff is worth the buildup and the ultimate reveal won't be something like "AND THEN THEY FOUND OUT THEY ALL ATTENDED THE SAME DAYCARE WHEN THEY WERE KIDS AND THE OPERATOR WAS THE GARDENER THERE AND HE ABUSED THEM BUT THEN THE PARENTS FOUND OUT AND CORNERED HIM IN THAT WOODEN STRUCTURE AND BURNED HIM ALIVE"
Decon says:
or worse, that they go the X-Files route and just answer nothing at all
Chocothunda says:
Sounds like an...alternate, horrific telling of Final Fantasy 8 O_O
Decon says:
it's actually the 'reworked' backstory of Freddy from the Nightmare On Elm St. remake
Chocothunda says:
Ooooh, I didn't watch that o.O
Decon says:
because the remakes philosophy was "FUCK SUBTLETY IT'S FOR WANKERS"
Decon says:
be glad, it wasn't very good
Chocothunda says:
That's the thing I'm starting to notice with how Horror is depicted now-a-days
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Specially in games; it's starting to become a case of "LETS SEE HOW GRUESOME AND CRUEL WE CAN MAKE OUR MONSTERS OUT TO BE!"
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"WHILE WE'RE AT IT, LET'S FORGET ABOUT BUILD UP THAT MADE OTHER HORROR MOVIES AND GAMES SO DAMNED GOOD!"
Decon says:
that's the modern school of horror for you;
Chocothunda says:
Obviously this isn't the case for all horror movies and games, but it is starting to become a trend :(
Decon says:
great big CGI things that go SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE right in the camera
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and not a whole lot else
Chocothunda says:
It's like the monster wants to get a second opinion on its dentistry.
Decon says:
or he just really needs a throat resolve
Chocothunda says:
Yeeeah, is something is that gutteral 90% of the time, they gotta get that looked at.
Chocothunda says:
Kinda like Batman O_O
Decon says:
Batman just needs to have a bit more motor oil with his nails and broken glass, it'll help it slide down easier
Decon says:
in some ways Marble Hornets is a throwback to the days of some of the better super low budget flicks, where things like Subtlety, pacing, meticulous direction of sound and placement of effects were as much by-products of having a budget just barely above monopoly money tools of the creative artistry
Decon says:
*as much as they are tools of creative artistry, rather
Chocothunda says:
I'd like to think of it as "Blair Witch done Right."
Decon says:
i think in MH's case it's the same deal, and it's down to both the guys behind it being really talented, and half working with whatever budget they have
Chocothunda says:
That's also true.
Decon says:
sometimes people work better when given less freedom; when you're met with corners you need to cut, quirks to exploit, and less solutions to use to solve a problem, you tend to get more creative with the way you think
Decon says:
that's at least part of why i've stuck with the same program for making music i started dicking around with when I was about 7 or 8 years old, 'cus i fear that if i somehow managed to bag, say, Logic Pro Tools, and had a whole new world of wonderful knobs and toys to mess with, i might wind up getting lazy
Decon says:
not everyone's the same of course, but the low budget feel of MH definately works in both the series itself, and the creators' favor
Decon says:
that and from a genre standpoint it works; it'd be a lot less believeable if Jay shot what was supposed to be his everday life on an IMAX camera, that'd take me out of it pretty sharpish
Chocothunda says:
Agreed; if we got sick CG things in MH, the series itself would be screwed. Mainly because Marble Hornets...the ORIGINAL Marble Hornets in universe, was meant to be a low budget film.
Chocothunda says:
It's a college film student project, chances are, there aren't going to be a lot of things you can work with. Solution?
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Gotta get creative.
Chocothunda says:
That's how MH feels like in a nutshell; getting creative in telling a story about how a film student abandonded his project mid-production, with reasons being due to stress and unworkable conditions.
Chocothunda says:
Throw in the director's urgings to BURN THE MOTHAFUCKING TAPES adds to that
Chocothunda says:
it adds curiosity.
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And we know how curiosity goes over in horror movies.
Decon says:
indeed; it's paramount to unzipping your fly, walking up to an open fire, and just slapping your manhood right down on the burning coals
Decon says: (12:58:41 PM)
it's an exercise in pain brought on by your own stupidity
Chocothunda says:
Considering Jay looking at the tapes = gaining the interest of the Operator,
Chocothunda says:
that sounds about right XD
Decon says:
and continuing to indulge is like leaving your junk in the naked flame for longer then a microsecond
Decon says:
by further indulging in curiosity you're achieving absolutely nothing but severely decreasing your chance at having kids
Chocothunda says:
However, increasing your chance of burnt dick.
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or rather, charred.
Chocothunda says:
And in essence, this is what's happening in Marble Hornets. The further Jay dives into this madness, the more difficult it is to get out of it.
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He finds himself getting more involved than he wanted to, and when the thought of "MAYBE THIS WASN'T SUCH A GOOD IDEA" came to his mind, it was already too late.
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Where you got, right now,
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You've already seen what's happened with Alex.
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The more entries you look at, the more you'll see how Jay's own curiosity is adversely effecting him.
Chocothunda says:
And this is in one way how horror works well: Something bad is going down, someone gets curious. Said someone investigates to the point where they've gotten a bit too deep.
Chocothunda says:
Said someone now becomes the target of bad shit.