03-03-20 Homeopathy - For: Roger Barr - Against: Doug Wind

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Terra Mizwa:

News bites

Roger Barr

Presentation

Why Homeopathy is Not Placebo Effect

“Microbiologist Carl Woese, ... observed that, unlike electrons, cells have a history - something like memories of what they have metabolized in the past. Those “memories” are encoded not in the cells’ DNA but somewhere else ..., so it may be misguided to think in terms of swapping genetic programs in and out of cell “bags.” The willingness of a physicist like Garcia Martin, to talk about the “memories” and “interests” of biological systems is surprising. But it reflects a larger shift among synthetic biologists away from a belief in the fundamentally mechanical nature of life.”

From the Sept 17, 2018, The New Yorker magazine article, Busy Bodies, what termites are teaching us, by Amia Srinivasan:

A. Some forces of nature that science can’t explain

Recognized by their effects

B. Homeopathy is recognized by its effects on living beings

C. Definition of Homeopathy: Like Cures Like

D. How conventional medicine uses (bad) homeopathy: Examples

E. Potentization: Serial dilution for greater efficacy of remedies

F. Placebo accusation

G. Placebos have generally temporary & limited effects

H. Homeopathy has 200 yr history of well-documented cures

I. My personal experiences

J. Limitations of Clinical Trials

K. Differs from Placebo because

1. Works in a test tube

2. Works on animals, babies, plants & comatose

3. Aggravation of symptoms before cure

4. Homeopathic “proving” - repeatable scientific experiment on healthy volunteers

5. Treat acute conditions

6. Treat chronic conditions

L. Summary conclusion

M. If there is time, my speculation on a “mechanism” for homeopathy

Doug Wind

Presentation

The case against Homeopathy:

Where is the burden of evidence?

Presentation (if time allows)

The Webb Space Telescope

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Links (Admins note: At the end of the Homeopathic debate, results by vote of hands roughly translated to: 1/2 thought Homeopathy wasn't science 1/4 thought the fat lady hasn't sung yet 1/4 thought it was a valid science)