Apr 17-23 2000

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Monday 17 April 2000:

Shari Handley likes Ellen's proposal and agrees with most of her ideas.

She disagrees with Teri, however, and thinks that "it would be best having

committee members with no ties to Archives, ACP, CP, Board, and probably

also to other entities that have been the source of controversy with USGW

members, such as member of ALHN and USIGS and RootsWeb staff members.

We'd need folks with fresh outlooks, without preconceived notions, without

the baggage of 3 years of hurt feelings. People who aren't so mired in

what happened in the past, and who did what to who, and who aren't all

tangled up in "loyalties" to one side or the other." She says that if the

Board decides to proceed with this idea, then Motion 00-6 would become

unnecessary and could be withdrawn. She requests further discussion of

how Ellen's proposal would be implemented, including how committee

volunteers would be chosen. She suggests that "Perhaps it would be

easiest if each state nominated one person. These names could be forwarded

to the AB, where they would be checked to be sure no nominees with ties to

the principal factions...were included. Then, the remaining names would

be subject to the approval of the AB reps (who must show good cause to

challenge a nominee's appointment, as outlined in the proposal). The

committee could be chosen from the remaining pool of nominees." She notes

that if the Board supports Ellen's proposal they will need a motion "to

get the ball rolling," but she feels that they need to work on details

first.

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Take That! Corner: Linda Lewis has informed Ron Eason and the world at

large [and apparently resubbed to CONFERENCE-L to do it] that "Last year I

resigned from my counties because of you and your lies. Today I resigned

from VAGenWeb because of you and Sue Soden's lies. You want me to resign

from the USGenweb Archives??? Well, give it UP!!!! I'm NOT! And I will

work to preserve the integrity of the Archives despite your attacks and

your lies." [Long story short: After Linda started pestering Stacey

Orchard to allow her to post old private email, Sue Soden told her to stop

her "blackmailing tactics" and also mentioned something about Linda using

aliases to sub to mailing lists and post material. Linda accused Sue of

libeling her and took herself off in a huff. When Ron shared his

reminiscences of learning tactics such as saving all old email in order to

use it against people in the future and using aliases "to get into places

you didn't want people to know about" from Linda, she apparently resubbed

herself, called him "sick" and "evil" and asked if there was "any legal

recourse" to protect herself from this sort of thing. She also said it was

illegal to use aliases online, but of course, that isn't true. So long as

you are not deliberately using the name of a real person in order to pass

yourself off as that person, you can call yourself whatever you want

online. After all, on the internet, no one knows you're a loon.]

Wave Goodbye Corner: We've heard that three State Coordinators will

shortly be stepping down: Elizabeth Harris [SC for NCGW], Susan

Tortorelli [SC for ILGW], and Carol Haagensen [acting SC for WYGW].

Carol, we've heard, has been formally asking the Board for guidance and

advice interpreting the bylaws and how they pertain to the conduct of

state elections; apparently Our Tim has taken it upon himself to field

these requests. As his grasp of the meaning of the bylaws appears

limited, we hope the WYGW doesn't rely on it too overmuch. [He's also been

telling TNGW that "USGenWeb Project guidelines do not, at this time, allow

for more than one site per county." There is, of course, nothing in the

bylaws _or_ any posted guidelines that limit the number of pages a state

can assign for one county.]

Cat Out of the Bag Corner: Some of you may have heard stirrings of an

action protesting the illegal delinking of the USGenWeb Census Project and

the Board's failure to overturn it. A number of things are ongoing. Some

people are replacing their USGW logo with a "mourning USGW" logo; others

are replacing all USGW links on their pages with links that go to a "civil

disobedience" page. Should you wish to do either or both, you may use

these links:

http://www.radix.net/~merope/usgwcd.htm [standard]

http://www.radix.net/~merope/usgwcd2.html [has link to USGW main page

behind "mourning" logo]

http://www.radix.net/~merope/usgwcd3.htm [version for non-USGW members]

You are welcome to link to this page or copy the text to use as you see

fit. [I did not design the "mourning" logo; however I understand it may

be freely used by anyone who wishes to participate in this protest.] USGW

members please note that you will not be in any violation of the USGW

bylaws if you "redirect" your links to the civil disobedience page.

Replacing the official log with the "mourning" logo might be problematic.

I personally have both on my pages so am not in violation of the provision

of the bylaws requiring that CCs exhibit the logo, for example:

http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/johnson/index.html

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"A very few, as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense,

and men, serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily

resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by

it."

---Henry David Thoreau, "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience"

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-Teresa Lindquist

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From merope@Radix.Net Tue Apr 18 16:34:51 2000

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Tuesday 18 April 2000:

Tim Stowell calls for a vote on the amendment to Motion 00-9, which if

amended will read: "Recognizing that the bylaws give the board final

authority over any delinking action, I move that the board ratify the NC's

delinking of Census II, and that any similar actions by the NC will need

to be ratified by a majority vote of the board in the future."

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Word to the Wise Corner: A USGenWeb member has this recommendation to the

Board regarding Motion 00-9:

"I urge *all* AB members to vote NO on this amendment. This amendment

stipulates "majority vote" which is in direct conflict with the our

bylaws. Any subsequent motion to ratify would be the main issue of the

motion, thus a 2/3 majority would be necessary if the bylaws are followed.

If approved,and the main motion is approved, it empowers the NC to take

such actions with the support of a simple majority of AB members." [Roger

Swafford, USGENWEB-ALL]

[Sorry to disappoint you Roger, but our esteemed NC has empowered himself

to take these actions without even the courtesy of _consulting_ the Board,

much less actually letting it vote on them.]

Meet The New Boss Corner: Susan Tortorelli has announced that the new SC

of ILGenWeb is none other than Board member Rich Howland. He'll

serve for the next two years. Congrats to Rich!

===

"And don't speak too soon for the wheel's still in spin

And there's no tellin' who that it's namin'.

For the loser now will be later to win

For the times they are a-changin'."

---Bob Dylan

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From merope@Radix.Net Tue Apr 18 21:15:23 2000

Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:15:21 -0400 (EDT)

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Someone just slipped this under my door. It is MOST amusing. Be sure and

click on the motorcycle guy.

http://dixonconegenwebproject.homestead.com/Census.html

-Teresa

merope@radix.net

From merope@Radix.Net Wed Apr 19 19:29:39 2000

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Wednesday 19 April 2000:

Tim Stowell posts a message to the Board that he sent to Ron Eason on

April 17 how to "remove the redirect" by adding a line of code to his

index page [although why Ron should be responsible for undoing Tim's

illegal action is not explained]. Tim tells people "if you have questions

as to why the redirect is still in place, please refer your questions to

him."

[We note that the original CP url <http://www.usgenweb.com/census/> is

still redirected to the ACP. Tim's line of code won't fix that. We

suspect he knows this.]

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A Rose By Any Other Name Corner: In a conversation ongoing on CENSUS-L

and involving the Board as well, Tim Stowell has attempted an explanation

of his apparent attempt to bribe Ron Eason with a Board seat. As you will

recall, Tim told Ron:

"If you will accept John's proposal and if the agreement is signed by all

parties - Margaret Stewart for USGenWeb Archives Census Project, Ron

Eason for USGenWeb Census Project, Linda Lewis for USGenWeb Archives, John

Schunk for S-K Publications and Tim Stowell for USGenWeb Project - and if

that signed agreement is made public to the world in return I shall press

for your immediate seating to the AB...Maggie, Linda and I have agreed to

this arrangement."

[Remember that this offer was made _privately_; the rest of the Board

apparently had no knowledge of it.] Tim now claims:

"The above note was a peace offering....I offered that if he agreed to

make any agreement public then I would move the appointment of a CP rep to

the Board to the top of business - period. ...By my statement 'Maggie,

Linda and I have agreed to this arrangement.' - I meant that we had all

seen John's proposal, independently and had agreed to John's proposal. I

was also informing him by that line that Linda and Maggie had already

posted, to the group of folks privy to those emails, of their

agreement/position on John's proposal - period. There was no meeting

between Linda, Maggie and me regarding John's proposal or acceptance

thereof. In fact their replies were already to that group of folk

included in the same batch of mail as John's proposal."

Note that there are _no_ emails from Maggie Stewart Zimmerman included in

the series posted by John Schunk at

<http://home.kscable.com/jschunk/usgw.html>. Maggie has been

noticeably quiet during these recent merger talks. Ron noted several

times during the discussion that Maggie had not been heard from; it's why

he believes that Maggie was privately discussing things with Linda Lewis

and that Linda and not Maggie was speaking for the Archives Census

Project. So where does Tim get his idea that Maggie had replied to the

small group of people participating in John's merger talks? And if she

hasn't posted her opinions publicly,how does he know what they are?

We also note that Tim's late explanation of what he really meant is

not nearly so plain as what he actually offered to Ron. He said,

basically, "if you agree to this offer, then I will press for your

immediate seating on the Board." NOT "I will move this to the head of the

agenda", but more along the lines of "I will personally support your

appointment". Sounds like a bribe to us. Smells like one too.

You Be The Judge Corner: My dictionary [Random House College] says:

"bribe, -n., 1. anything promised or given as illicit payment. 2. anything

given or serving to persuade or induce.

Safekeeping Corner: Also on CENSUS-L in recent days are notifications by

some Census Project transcribers that they do not want their

transcriptions being placed in the Archives. Now, that will really mess

with the ACP's mirror script, because if they automatically acquire

transcriptions that have been specifically denied them, then they will be

in violation of copyright. And as we all know, that is cause for immediate

delinking by the NC.

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Today's quote is from a reader. We hear its all the rage today over on

CENSUS-L:

"The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouth of the fool

gushes folly. The eyes of the LORD are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked

and the good. The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life, but a

deceitful tongue crushes the spirit."

---Proverbs 15:1-4

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-Teresa Lindquist

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Wednesday 19 Apr 2000--Thursday 20 April 2000:

Tim Stowell announces the results of the vote on the amendment to Motion

00-9. They are: 0 yes, 0 no, and 15 not voting. Since there was no

quorum and no votes he declares the amendment failed and returns the group

to discussion of the unamended Motion 00-9. [This is a first, and I for

one would be curious to know why _none_ of the board members voted on this

amendment.]

Teri Pettit says she does not understand how Tim's suggestion to Ron Eason

for removing the redirect would work. She notes that since the main

Census Project url is now redirected to the Archives Census Project "The

main index page for the Census Project isn't even accessed in this

situation." She also notes that some pages which originally carried links

to both census projects now find "what previously went to two separate

pages now both go to the same page. Some county pages have similar direct

links. And Ron can't go changing the html on state project or county

project pages." Teri tells Tim that if he wants to claim that undoing his

redirect of the CP to the ACP is akin to relinking and he hasn't agreed to

do than, that would be understandable. But, she notes "it is disingenuous

to respond as if that weren't what Ron obviously means by "remove the

redirect."

Tim forwards a message he received from an SC regarding the census

projects. The SC suggests "Have the Board appoint Ron & Maggie as

co-chair of "THE census project" Combine all volunteers into a single team

This team would recruit volunteers for transcribing and proofing

Transcriptions WILL go into the archives They can also put them anywhere

ELSE that they can get server space with/without the USGW logo."

===

Redirection Blues Corner: Ron Eason has informed Tim Stowell that the

so-called "fix" of the redirect doesn't work and:

"If it is not returned to it's original condition before this weekend is

out we will be removing all of our pages and files from Rootsweb and any

further attempt to copy our files by the Archives will be considered as

theft. We will abide by SK Publications conditional use policy that

states that we will place a copy of files completed using their free

material, but no other files will be forth coming. This is not against

USGW policy and we are within our rights to exercise our rights as we

interpret them."

Tim, for his part, now claims that he can't contact anyone at Root$web to

help him undo what he originally claimed to have done on his own; he also

states that the code he gave Ron a couple of days ago came from an RW

staff member. He has, in the interim, removed the listing of the Archives

Census Project from the main page of the USGW Project which, of course,

doesn't solve the problem. [Although he doesn't state outright that

Root$web actually worked the redirect for him, Tim does note that "What

that code does or doesn't do - is out of my area of expertise. What was

changed and where, I don't know."]

Piling On Corner: Teri Pettit isn't the only one pointing out that Tim's

suggestion to Ron on how remove the redirect won't work:

"Tim, changing the line of code does not reverse the action of the URLs

the transcribers saved before the redirect occurred. IT NEEDS TO BE

UNDONE THAT SAME WAY IT WAS DONE. GET IT UNDONE."

---Connie Burkett, CENSUS-L

"Tim, The redirect is on the http://www.usgenweb.org/census directory and

its copies of the census pages so unless Ron has password priviledges to

the national directory, he cannot undo it. It needs to be done by YOU or

whoever has access, perhaps the webmaster. To undo the redirect is your

responsiblity, not Ron's."

---Stacey Orchard, USGENWEB-NW-L

"Blaming on Ron, eh? Read Stacy Orchard's reply to you."

---David Samuelsen, USGENWEB-ALL [referencing Stacey's comment above]

"Tim, Removing the link for the ACP from the USGenWeb Home Page still does

not address the REDIRECT that is still causing the current transcriber's

saved URLs to be rerouted to the equivalent ACP web-pages. Who did you

request to make the REDIRECT when you did the delink? And why are you

having such a hard time getting the REDIRECT undone?"

---Connie Burkett, CONFERENCE-L

PayBack Corner: Lucky for Root$web they didn't have to shell out $1000 to

the guy that won their "Get a New Home Page for Cheap" contest after all.

The lucky winner, Robert Dominy, gave all the money back and became a life

member of Root$web. We also notice that the beg for "donations" to

Root$web has once again been removed from this week's New Zoo Review.

There is still no mention of GenSoc.Org, four months after its tax-exempt

status was approved by the IRS.

Making History Corner: We've updated the USGenWeb Project History to add

more info on the "Census Wars", including a brief [and in progress]

overview of the census project issue, and summaries of the three previous

merger talks. You can access it from:

http://www.radix.net/~merope/history/ourhist.htm

Go down to "CHAPTER V. THE CENSUS WARS." Hope you enjoy!

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"Ninety-eight percent of the adults in this country are decent,

hard-working, honest Americans. It's the other lousy two percent that get

all the publicity. But then, we elected them.

---Lily Tomlin

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Thursday 20 Apr 2000:

On the topic of the suggestion from an SC that Tim Stowell posted earlier,

Joe Zsedeny says "Let the two projects do what they have been doing with

two conditions, no duel transcriptions and timely response to transcribers

or others." He notes that in discussions he has participated in, he has

seen "no will or desire on the part of the managers of either project to

co-chair or work more closely than they have in the past," and that

"Delinking eliminates a large group of volunteers who can be more

gainfully employed in meeting the goal of getting the censuses online."

He suggests that a large amount of cooperation can exist between project

members below the management level.

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Why Am I Not Surprised Corner: As much as I have tried to keep Root$web

out of this whole delinking incident [because I honestly didn't believe

they had anything to do with it], it turns out that they apparently did

the delinking for Tim. According to information presented on CONFERENCE-L

yesterday, it apparently was RW employee Tim Pierce who aided and abetted

Our Esteemed National Coordinator in his dirty work. The information comes

from Ron Eason, who said [to Tim Stowell] "just in case you can't remember

who helped you, Dr. Leverich told us that it was Tim Pierce who helped you

thinking you had the right to make those changes."

An interesting side note: Root$web's home page links to _both_ the

USGenWeb Census Project and the USGenWeb Archives Census Project.

Moving Right Along: The USGenWeb Archives has a new subproject, the USGW

Archives Obituary Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/obits/.

The "about the project" section of its home page says merely, "The

USGenWeb Archives Obituary Project was developed in April 2000. Newspapers

have given permission to archive published obituaries to help

researchers." Currently, the site has obits posted from newspapers in

Kentucky, Virginia, Texas, Pennsylvania and Louisiana. There's no info on

who the coordinator for the project is, but Holly Fee Timm and Kelly

Mullins designed the home page.

Corrections Corner: A reader has written to inform us that the money beg

traditionally located at the very top of the New Zoo Review and which we

reported as missing in this week's edition, was in fact still there. All

the way at the bottom, after the credits and copyright statement. We

usually fall asleep before we get to the bottom, so we didn't see it. Our

apologies!

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Today's quote, a blast from the past, is from a reader:

"[It is] true. RootsWeb doesn't generally support redirection. I've got

some fairly frequent and painful experience with this particular

problem. ): [I]t is extremely difficult for RootsWeb to tell an active

redirect from deadwood. [T]here are a dozen other problems associated

with redirects. I hope that helps you understand why RootsWeb doesn't

support redirects."

---Brian Leverich, OHGEN-L, 30 Mar 1999

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From merope@Radix.Net Sat Apr 22 12:50:12 2000

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According to information posted on CONFERENCE-L recently, the redirect of

the Census Project webpages to the Archives Census Project webpages has

been removed.

According to RootsWeb employee Betsy Mills, the redirect was removed last

night at the request of the "Account Owner" [which would be Tim Stowell].

http://www.usgenweb.org/census/

-Teresa

merope@radix.net

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In its Easter bonnet, with all the frills upon it...its Your Daily Board

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Saturday 22 April 2000-Sunday 23 April 2000:

There has been no activity on Board-L on these dates.

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Non Compos Mentis Corner: More on the issue of the redirect and how it

was accomplished, from the CENS-ASSIST mailing list:

"RootsWeb is *utterly* uninvolved in this. Ron, except in unusual cases

(pornography, gross copyright violations, ... ) RootsWeb does not in any

way interfere with work done by the Webmasters we host."

---Brian Leverich, 8 April 2000, CENS_ASSIST-L

"Since I wrote my last letter I've taken the time to research what's

actually going on here...First, I had assumed that Tim Stowell had

personally made changes to the configuration of www.usgenweb.com/net/org

and the Census Project....I had assumed wrong. Tim Pierce of RootsWeb's

staff actually implemented this as a server redirect at the request of Tim

Stowell...He assumed Tim Stowell was competent to make modification

requests for www.usgenweb.com/net/org domain and made the change as a

matter of course. At this point I've asked the staff at RootsWeb to avoid

this whole mess as carefully as possible. We will respond to any guidance

the USGenWeb Advisory Board gives us on changes they'd like made to the

domain."

---Brian Leverich, 9 April 2000, CENS_ASSIST-L

"I asked that the redirect be made to point to usgw/census/index filename.

As I've said before I don't know how these work - and since I have no way

of changing these or seeing them changed - I have no way of knowing one

way or the other if what is changed is to your liking....So please don't

get on a high-horse over this. I have no idea what it looked like on

April 1, what in was changed to, what it looks like now or what you want.

So there really isn't a need to give me a bunch of technical details on

this because it'll just go over my head. This isn't in my baliwick of

knowledge."

---Tim Stowell, 22 April 2000, CONFERENCE-L

For those of you interested in the fitful merger talks not being discussed

on CONFERENCE-L, listowner Stacey Orchard has declined to resub Linda

Lewis since she doesn't want to keep having to resub people who stalk off

in a huff. Also, she has indicated that if Maggie Stewart-Zimmerma, who as

coordinator of the ACP is integral to the success of any merger talks,

does not begin participation in the discussion within 72 hours, she will

close the list. It is her opinion that it is useless to hold merger talks

if one side won't even come to the table.

Original Intent Corner: Our Esteemed National Coordinator, on the bylaws:

"Clear to you may not be clear to others as the wording may/may not show

the intent of the framers nor what you or I think they say. The Bylaws

envisioned what was known at the point in time the Bylaws were written.

Subsequent events, unforeseen at the time of the Bylaws writing and

subsequent passage leave a good chunk of the Bylaws open to

intepretation."

---Tim Stowell, CONFERENCE-L, 22 April 2000

Root$web Marches On Corner: According to Dick Eastman's recent

newsletter, "RootsWeb, http://www.rootsweb.com...and FortuneCity.com

Inc... a leading Internet media company and network of Internet personal

publishing, content and entertainment sites, today announced a partnership

that will offer users the latest and best resources in genealogy and

family research... FortuneCity is a media company specializing in personal

publishing, content and entertainment sites....In addition, FortuneCity

owns 50% of http://www.acmecity.com a joint venture with Warner Bros.

Online, a Time Warner Entertainment Company. It has not been involved in

genealogy prior to the alliance with RootsWeb." FortuneCity's Root$web

page is at http://www.fortunecity.com/cobrand/rootsweb/index.html

===

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter."

---Martin Luther King, Jr.

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-Teresa Lindquist

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