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JOHN 3:17 WAS JESUS SENT FROM HEAVEN?
DOES JOHN 3:17 TEACH US THAT JESUS WAS SENT DOWN FROM HEAVEN INTO THE WORLD?
To say this another way, does John 3:17 prove that Jesus pre-existed up in heaven as the eternal divine Son of God, who was WITH God AT his SIDE as a SEPARATE person of the ONE TRUE God in all eternity past? And then God SENT his already pre-existing SON down from heaven INTO the earth to become the Son of Man, but yet REMAIN fully DIVINE in nature?
John 3:17.
“For God SENT not his Son INTO the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
In other words, do ALL the verses that say that the SON OF God was SENT INTO the world means, without fail, that Jesus, as God's already preexisting Son, was sent down from heaven and INTO the world. Or can all these verses that SEEM to be saying that Jesus was sent down from heaven INTO the world be INTERPRETED in other ways?
Now, some of you that are readers and seekers of the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of God already know that there are some Christians who have INTERPRETED these verses like John 3:17 as God SENDING his SON down out of heaven down to the earth to BECOME a human being, but YET REMAIN fully Almighty God and thus be a GOD/MAN having TWO natures, one DIVINE, and one HUMAN.
But in truth, when these verses are interpreted in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God, then it can be clearly seen that ALL of these verses mean that God sent, as in, God COMMISSIONED his Son Jesus to go OUT INTO the world to show us the FATHER and the kingdom of God.
So then, any verse like John 3:17 that SEEMS to be saying that Jesus HIMSELF as God's already preexisting SON was LITERALLY sent down out of heaven down to the earth to then manifest himself to BECOME the Son of MAN simply means that the LOGOS came down out of heaven down to the earth where the LOGOS was the SPOKEN SAYING or the SPOKEN word of God and NOT a LITERAL SEPARATE divine eternal Spirit being who was WITH Almighty God before the foundation of the world.
Please read John 16:27-30 where Jesus HIMSELF teaches us that he CAME OUT FROM the Father, just as John 1:1-14 teaches us where the LOGOS was WITHIN THE God and what God was the LOGOS BECAME. Meaning what God desires WITHIN himself to be or to come into existence, then that IMAGE within God is brought forth out from God as his LOGOS, his SAYING, or his SPOKEN word COMING OUT FROM WITHIN God to become whatever God himself SPOKE into being. And the LOGOS BECAME flesh, which is translated as, “And the Word was MADE FLESH...” in the King James Version of the Bible along with many other translations of the Bible. But the LITERAL word for word translation translated the Greek word LOGOS as the SAYING of God. So John 1:14 in the literal reads, “And the SAYING flesh became...”.
Now, this is not someone's own personal INTERPRETATION, but rather, it is what the Greek word LOGOS means. The Greek word logos mean SPEECH. The logos of God is God’s word, as in, God's SPOKEN word, His SAYING. The Greek word logos is found 207 times in the New Testament and in 200 of those 207 times, the Greek word logos is ALWAYS translated as the word with a lower case or small “w” and means SPEECH or words coming out of God's mouth, which was written down by men of old as PROPHECY of what God Himself SAID.
But the other 7 of those times that the word logos is found, the translators decided to translated logos as Word with a capital “W” to show that in THESE seven times only the word logos was NOT God's SPOKEN word, but the logos was a SEPARATE divine eternal Spirit being, who was WITH the God AT the God's SIDE being God's SON.
However, is this what the Bible ITSELF teaches us?
Must John 3:17 mean, without fail, as the ONLY possible meaning it could have that a literal pre-existing Jesus came down from out of heaven INTO the earth? Let us see what the Bible ITSELF has to say about being sent INTO the world.
Please read John 17:14-19.
“I have given them your word; and the world has hated them, because they are NOT OF the world, EVEN AS I am NOT OF the world.
15. I pray not that you should take them out of the world, but that you should keep them from the evil.
16. THEY are NOT OF the world, EVEN AS I am NOT OF the world.
17. Sanctify them through Your truth: Your word is truth.
18. AS YOU have SENT ME INTO the world, EVEN SO have I ALSO SENT THEM INTO the world.
19. And for their sake I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.”
Plain and simple, every Christian would agree that WE were NOT sent down fromO heaven INTO the world, but rather we are sent OUT INTO the world to preach the gospel the SAME way that God sent His human anointed Son, Jesus, OUT into the world to preach the kingdom of God is at hand.
The Greek word translated as sent in John 3:17 also means to COMMISSION. The word commission means that Almighty God EMPOWERED Jesus, the Son of MAN, to accomplish the task that his God and Father sent him OUT into the world to accomplish. The truth of the matter is that God did not send Jesus into the world UNTIL the baptism of Jesus which is WHEN Almighty God ANOINTED the Son of MAN with the Holy Spirit who came to DWELL IN the Son of MAN to EMPOWER him to do the works his God and Father SENT him INTO the world to do.
So then, according to the whole word of God correctly interpreted in the light of the rest of God’s word, the logos of God was NOT a separate divine eternal person who was with God at His SIDE as God's SON in the eternity past, but rather, the logos was God's SPEECH, His SAYING that was WITHIN the God.
Thus, the truth of the matter is that it was not God's preexisting SON who became the Son of MAN, but rather, it was Almighty God's spoken word of prophecy that was MADE flesh. It was the word that was with Almighty God, as in, within God’s mind and plan before the foundation of the world to bring forth into existence the firstborn Son of God. Please read the studies “JOHN 1:1 THE WORD WAS GOD!” and “WHAT DOES JOHN 1:14 TRULY MEAN?” for all the Scriptures that clearly show you that the LOGOS, the Word that was with God was NOT a SEPARATE divine eternal Spirit being who was WITH God at his side and those in the mainstream denomination churches wrongly teach.
John 16:27-30.
“For the Father, Himself loves you, BECAUSE you have loved me, and (BECAUSE you) have BELIEVED that I CAME OUT FROM God.
28. I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world (So once again, HOW did Jesus come INTO the world? That is correct, it was the LOGOS, the SAYING of God, that was sent down from heaven to be SPOKEN by the prophets of old first and then by the Angel Gabriel. And then, the spoke word of PROPHECY was BELIEVED by Mary to be planted as God's SEED in the WOMB of Mary to be conceived in her womb to be born of a woman as the Son of MAN. And then the Son of man, Jesus, became great after his anointing to be sent OUT into the world to preach the kingdom of God. So the, the true sound Biblical meaning of the words of Jesus saying, I came OUR FROM God is that the LAMB of God that was SLAIN from BEFORE the foundation of the world in the mind and plan of God which God PROPHESIED and then PERFORMED to bring How spoken word to pass) again, I leave the world and go to the Father.
29. His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speak you plainly, and speak no proverb.
30. Now are we sure that you know all things, and need not that any man should ask you: BY THIS we believe that you came forth from God.”
WHO recorded the RECORD of Jesus? Yes, the EYEWITNESSES of Jesus wrote down what they HEARD directly from the mouth of Jesus. This is HOW the disciples KNEW that Jesus did NOT have an earthly father who conceived him. So them it was BY THIS, the teachings of Jesus himself, that they KNEW that Jesus CAME FORTH FROM God, who would be called the Son of the Highest.
Now, IF SO BE, that the disciples of Jesus UNDERSTOOD Jesus to mean that he literally came down out of heaven down to the earth, then the Gospel account of Luke chapter 1 has it all WRONG. For you see, Luke teaches us that the angel Gabriel SPOKE the word of God to the Virgin Mary and when she said be it done according to your word the Holy Spirit overshadowed her and God's SPOKEN word was conceived in her WOMB.
I personally do not believe that Luke has it wrong, but rather, I believe that those who INTERPRET the logos of God in those SEVEN times ONLY as being God's eternal preexisting begotten Son that THEY CLAIM he was begotten in eternity past without ever having a beginning are the ones who have it WRONG.
You see dear child of God, it was actually AFTER the resurrection of Jesus that his God and Father said unto Jesus, THIS DAY have I begotten you meaning that Jesus BECAME the ETERNAL SON OF God on a CERTAIN DAY or point in time clearly teaching us that Jesus had a BEGINNING. Please read the three-part study “WHEN DID JESUS BECOME GOD'S ETERNAL SON?”
But for now, please read Acts 13:28-34 along with Hebrews 1:3-5.
Acts 13:28-34.
“And though they found no cause of death in him, (Jesus was an INNOCENT MAN, who was crucified unjustly. Therefore, giving God the right to REDEEM mankind back from his ENEMY, that old dragon called Satan and the Devil. This was God's PLAN from before the foundation of the world that he kept SECRET from his enemy. For had they had KNOWN God's PLAN, then they would have never crucified the Lord of glory. For you see, by their killed an innocent man they thus sealed their judgment to be cast it to the lake of fire when God's PLAN is completed. God's plan of salvation is to yet bring more SONS and DAUGHTERS into his family where Jesus was the FIRSTBORN from the dead, the BEGINNING of God's NEW CREATION, being the FIRSTBORN among many brethren, to inherit the NEW heavens and the NEW earth in the ages to come after the 1000 year reign of Jesus in the world to come. For all the verses that clearly show what I just said, please read the study “UNDERSTANDING WHY?” ) yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
29. And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulcher.
30. But God raised him from the dead:
31. And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
32. And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
33. God has FULFILLED the same unto us their children, in that he has raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, You are my Son, THIS DAY have I begotten you.
34. And AS CONCERNING that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.”
So then, it was the DAY that God raised the Son of MAN from the dead and GAVE him ETERNAL LIFE to have in himself even as Almighty God has always had life in himself that Jesus ACTUALLY BECAME the SON OF Almighty God. For you see, even though Jesus was called the SON OF God throughout the New Testament, that is again, a RECORD, and not a play by play minute by minute of what Jesus did and taught. We are called sons of God now, in that, we have been given the power to become the sons of God. We do not truly become the sons of God until we actually receive eternal life in the world to come to become the eternal sons of God.
In other words, it should not be dogmatically taught that everything in the gospels is in the exact sequence as they took place. Most things are, but in places, John and the other writers added their COMMENTARY or explaining the teachings of Jesus.
To say this another way, we know that Jesus was NOT GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE before his crucifixion, but yet it is RECORDED early in the gospel of John OUT of the SEQUENCE of the actual events that took place.
Also, one must remember that a DAY with God is as 1000 years and 1000 years as a DAY. So in truth, the THIS DAY actually began on the DAY that Jesus was CONCEIVED in the WOMB of the Virgin Mary by the SPOKEN LOGOS of God and then was completed on the THIS DAY when Jesus was raised from the dead, ascended into heaven, and was GIVEN ETERNAL LIFE by his God and Father. Then after Jesus descended back down from heaven to show himself alive for forty days he ascended up into heaven to be seated at the right hand of his God and Father to await his SECOND coming to rule and reign for 1000 years on the earth. Another passage of Scripture that clearly teaches us that Almighty God BECAME a Father and Jesus BECAME His SON just as Hebrews 1:3-5 teaches us.
Hebrews 1:3-5.
“Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4. Being MADE so much better than the angels, (You see dear child of God, the LOGOS was made to become a little LOWER than the angels at first to be like ALL humans, and it was only AFTER Jesus became obedient to do all the will of his God and father that Almighty God HIGHLY EXACTED him to rule over the angels) as he has by inheritance OBTAINED a more excellent name than they.
5. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, THIS DAY have I begotten you? And again, I WILL BE to him a Father, and he SHALL BE to me a Son?”
Now just plain common sense should teach you that, IF SO BE, that Jesus was FULLY the DIVINE eternal God and the Son of MAN at the SAME time, having TWO natures, one DIVINE and one human as the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus dogmatically teaches, then Jesus would have ALREADY been BETTER than the angels. In fact, according to the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus, he never was made a little LOWER than the angels. Can you not see dear child of God, that the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus DURING the days of his FLESH is someone's OWN PERSONAL INTERPRETATION that contradicts many other parts of God's word? Plain and simple, the doctrine of the Deity of Jesus having TWO natures at the same time is a MAN-MADE false doctrine.
So when you interpret those QUESTIONABLE verses, I implore you to interpret them in the LIGHT of the WHOLE word of God. And when you do that then it becomes crystal clear that the ONLY way that Jesus PREEXISTED was AS an IMAGE within the mind of Almighty God Himself. Then Jesus preexisted as the spoken word of PROPHECY that was written down by men of old. I believe that Almighty God HIMSELF literally becomes ALL that He Himself alone by Himself CREATES OUT FROM Himself. And God created everything that exists BY SPEAKING FORTH OUT FROM WITHIN HIMSELF the IMAGE that He has painted WITHIN His mind to BE brought forth into existence where it never existed before EXCEPT WITHIN His mind to one day come into existence. This is what Jesus truly means when Jesus said that he CAME OUT FROM God. Please read the study “WHAT DOES GOD INCARNATE TRULY MEAN?”, “JOHN 1:1---THE WORD WAS GOD!”, and the three-part study called “WHEN DID JESUS BECOME THE ETERNAL SON OF GOD?”
Below is a link to a list of the studies I mentioned within this study along with all the other studies that I have related to this subject of HOW did Jesus PREEXIST. We all agree that Jesus preexisted is some FORM, so the question is not IF Jesus pre-existed, but rather, in what FORM as to HOW Jesus pre-existed in eternity past.
Thanks for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
Once Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even atheists understand the REASON that Yahweh CREATED the Son of MAN, Jesus, was to have DOMINION over the work of Yahweh’s hands.
And after you understand that the REASON that Yahweh did that is to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
Then you can understand that God made His human Son to become “a” Lord, “a” King, and “a” God, under and subject to his God and Father in order to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels.
For a deeper understanding of this WAR that Lucifer and one third of the angels waged against the throne of Almighty God, please read the studies under the subject category called ** Q-0 Why Are We Here? Is God at WAR? **.
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And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
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