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God Did NOT Create the Earth Void and Without Form!
For those who may have never heard of the “Gap Theory”, it is a teaching that Genesis 1:3-31 is God RESTORING the earth that BECAME void and empty by the JUDGMENT of God FLOODING the earth to destroy its wicked inhabitants of a previous AGE of the earth.
Now, there are different “versions” as to HOW this previous age is taught, which has caused some confusion as to WHY some Christians believe that the Bible ITSELF teaches us of a PRE-ADAMIC AGE.
In other words, the arguments AGAINST an AGE of the earth before God created Adam are NOT VALID arguments. And the purpose of this study is to show my readers WHY all of the arguments AGAINST an OLD earth are not valid arguments.
Let me begin by saying that a dear brother in our Lord Jesus Christ sent me no less than four links to websites that argue against the earth BECOMING without form and void in Genesis 1:2.
So then, I will take some quotes from each of those websites, which by the way are Trinitarian websites.
And then I will explain WHY all their arguments do NOT prove a YOUNG earth that was supposedly created in six 24 hour days.
Please understand that I do indeed believe that God created Adam around 6,000 years ago.
And thus, the HUMAN race as we know it is only around 6,000 years old.
But the earth ITSELF is much older than just 6,000 years old.
I will number the arguments to make it easier to go back over them as separate arguments.
Then under each numbered argument, I will give my REBUTTAL explaining WHY the argument is NOT valid.
Argument #1 AGAINST an OLD earth.
That the word “replenish” in Genesis 1:28 in the King James Version does not mean, “refill?” (Researched by Dr. Charles Taylor, linguist with the Creation Science Foundation of Australia).
Some have used the word “replenish” to support the Gap Theory, which makes it necessary for God to refill the earth after "pre-Adamites" perished due to Satan's fall. Does "replenish" really mean "refill?"
1. The Hebrew word translated
"replenish" simply means "fill"—not "refill"! The Hebrew word occurs 306 times in the Old Testament and in not one instance does it mean, "refill."
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2. The Latin prefix "re" originally meant "again," but then it lost this meaning. At the time the King James Bible was translated in 1611,"replenish" was just a scholarly word for "fill." They almost certainly came to use it because an old word, "plenish," was dying out.
3. An examination of the Oxford
English dictionary shows the English word "replenish" was used to mean "fill" from the 13th to the 17th centuries. In no case, during these five centuries does it mean "refill."
4. In the 17th century, English
scholars began trying to restore original meanings to words and prefixes, so "re" in English once more came to mean "again." Today, most words with "re" do mean again, such as "rewrite," etc. There are other instances, however, as in "replete," where there is no such meaning.
In the King James Version, Genesis 1:28 means "fill the earth," not "refill the earth"!
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #1 is NOT valid!
Now, when Trinitarian Christians sincerely believe that the King James Bible translators have translated a word “incorrectly” because it does not agree with their doctrine of the Trinity, then they will argue that the KJV should have NEVER been translated that way!
But when Biblical Unitarian Christians are simply correcting a “BAD” translation so that the Bible ITSELF does NOT contradict ITSELF, then we are wrongly accused of CHANGING God’s word to fit our own personal interpretation. Let me show you what I mean by this.
Above, I have quoted an argument from a Trinitarian article taken from a Trinitarian website to show you how they feel that it is alright for THEM to CHANGE a word in the KJV because THEY feel that a certain verse is a “BAD” translation that MISLEADS Christians.
Now, the article itself is giving THEIR arguments AGAINST a teaching by other Christians who sincerely believe that they are teaching the TRUTH.
And that teaching is called the “Gap Theory” by Christians who are AGAINST a YOUNG earth and universe being only 6,000 years old.
And thus, the YOUNG earth creationist Christians, who are against an OLD earth, must argue that God MADE the earth without form and void.
In other words, the Christians who believe that God created the earth and the entire universe in six literal 24 hour days around 6,000 years ago, MUST argue AGAINST the earth BECOMING without form and void by God’s JUDGMENT of a FLOOD that covered the mountains the SAME as the FLOOD in the days of Noah.
Otherwise, their whole theory of a YOUNG earth completely falls apart.
Therefore, THEY call what other Christians teach about an OLD earth as being a “GAP THEORY.”
But, we who believe in an OLD earth, call this teaching concerning Genesis 1:1,2 the “Luciferian Flood”.
For you see, we sincerely believe that the very reason that God created mankind and the Son of man in the first place, was to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels guilty as charged.
And thus, we believe that God CUTDOWN the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1:1.
And in Genesis 1:2, the earth BECAME without form and void.
Remember that I said that there are different VERSIONS of this teaching of a pre-Adamic AGE.
Some Christians who believe in an OLD earth “interpret” Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 SEPARATELY.
And thus, they have a “GAP” of an unknown time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.
But God has shown me to interpret both verses together as one thought. God reminded me of a Bible study that I did many years ago on Isaiah 45:7.
So then, let us go ahead and read that verse of Scripture first, and then I will explain its true meaning.
Isaiah 45:7.
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
One day when I read this verse, I somehow knew in my heart that God does NOT CREATE EVIL.
I knew on the inside that something was amiss in this verse of Scripture.
And when I asked God about this verse of Scripture, He said, “Look up the meaning”.
But I thought that God meant to look up the meaning of the English word “create”.
And I said to myself, why, what is the point, the word create means create, what else could create mean?
And God said to me again, look it up. So I looked up the Hebrew word “bara” translated as “create” and found that it ALSO means CUTDOWN.
So then, Isaiah 45:7 SHOULD read as follows.
A more CORRECT translation of Isaiah 45:7.
“I form the light, and CUTDOWN
darkness: I make peace, and CUTDOWN evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
Now, this translation AGREES with the verses of Scripture that clearly teach us that God is GOOD and in Him is NO darkness at all.
This CORRECTED translation ALSO agrees with the CONTEXT of Isaiah 45:18, which I will discuss in my rebuttal under argument number two.
But some Christians who wrongly believe that God ORDAINED all evil in the world accuse me of CHANGING God’s word to fit my own beliefs.
However, in truth, all I am doing is HARMONIZING the Scriptures themselves to AGREE with the other Scriptures.
For you see, as it stands in the King James Verse, Genesis 1:1,2 CONTRADICTS Isaiah 45:18.
So then, all I am doing is CORRECTING the WRONG translation in Genesis 1:2 in order to AGREE with Isaiah 45:18.
With that being said, let us get back to the Hebrew word “translated” as REPLENISH in the KJV.
As you have already read above, the Christians who argue against an OLD earth use Genesis 1:28 by claiming that it is a “BAD” translation in the KJV and it should be translated as FILL the earth.
Do you see how THEY can CHANGE God’s word when a “translation” does not agree with THEIR own personal interpretation of a YOUNG earth and a young universe being only 6,000 years old, instead of millions of years old.
But if OTHER Christians point out an incorrect “translation” then they accuse us of twisting God’s word without showing how we are supposedly twisting God’s word.
So then, is that argument made by young earth Christians VALID?
In other words, is it valid to say that to FILL something can NEVER mean to REPLENISH something?
What I mean by my question is that when a glass of water BECOMES empty and you FILL that glass of water, what are you doing?
You are indeed FILLING the glass, but you are ALSO REPLENISHING the water that used to be in the glass.
Now, what if the water in the glass was BAD water and you deliberately EMPTIED the glass of water to get rid of that BAD water so that you can have a FRESH NEW glass of water?
And then, you FILLED the same glass with water? What would you be doing? You would be REFILLING the glass with NEW water.
So then, the Hebrew word “mala” which does indeed mean to FILL, carries the MEANING of to fill AGAIN.
And we all know and understand that during the FLOOD of Noah that every animal and human being were destroyed except for 8 people and the animals on the Ark.
Notice in Genesis 9:1, God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH the earth.
This is the SAME Hebrew word “mala”, which again does indeed mean to FILL.
But now you KNOW that it also carries the meaning of filling the earth AGAIN with people.
So then, it is NOT impossible for the Hebrew word “mala” to mean REPLENISH as God’s INTENDED meaning in Genesis 1:28?
YES! Absolutely it is not only possible, but that is what actually happened as you will see as you continue reading this study in God’s word.
And thus, argument #1 against an OLD earth is NOT a valid argument. So let us move on to argument number two.
Argument #2 AGAINST an OLD earth.
Mention should be made here that some modern advocates propose a Gap ONLY for the purpose of attempting to account for Satan's fall. Many others hold it to ALLOW for evolution and an old earth, thereby ACCEPTING both evolution of the previous world and creation of the present world.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #2 is NOT valid!
Now, I cannot say what the REASONS are for WHY other Christians believe in an OLD earth.
I can only say WHY I myself believe that the Bible ITSELF teaches of an OLD earth that God CHANGES as a garment is changed, according to Psalm 102:26.
Let us go ahead and read that passage of Scripture.
Psalm 102:25,26.
“Of OLD have You laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Psalm 102:26. They shall perish, but You shall endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shall You change them, and they shall be changed:”
Now, this is actually a prophecy of the heavens and the earth yet future CHANGE when God creates the NEW heaven and the NEW earth at the end of the Millennial reign of Jesus.
But the fact that God can destroy the earth in His judgment of FIRE and then RESTORE the earth or CHANGE the earth to make it new again as a garment is changed, clearly teaches us that God could have previously RESTORED the earth after His judgments of the TWO separate FLOODS.
Yes, I said TWO separate FLOODS, the Luciferian FLOOD in Genesis 1:2 and Noah FLOOD in Genesis 7:6.
For you see, it makes no sense for God to tell us that He laid the foundation of the earth, and then give us a PROPHECY that the work He just did shall PERISH.
That would CONSEQUENTLY mean that God CREATED EVIL and He purposely created the earth so that He could DESTROY it with FIRE.
Now, as I said before, I ONLY show my readers “BAD” translations that CONTRADICT the Bible ITSELF.
In other words, I point out that the English phrase in Genesis 1:2, “And the earth WAS without form and VOID” is a “BAD” translation.
In other words, when you read Genesis 1:1 and verse 2 together as one thought as it is TRANSLATED in most Bibles, then one has to interpret those two verses to WRONGLY mean that God purposely created the earth without form and void.
But that “TRANSLATION” CONTRADICTS other verses of Scripture in the Bible that clearly teach us that God did NOT create the earth without form and void.
And thus, Genesis 1:2 SHOULD read as “And the earth BECAME without form and void”.
For you see, the TRANSLATION in the KJV CONTRADICTS Isaiah 45:18,19.
Let us go ahead and read that passage of Scripture as well.
Isaiah 45:18,19.
“For thus says the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He has ESTABLISHED it, (Or more correctly translated, He has FIXED it) He CREATED it NOT in VAIN, He formed it to be INHABITED: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:19. I have NOT spoken in SECRET, in a dark place of the earth: (Or I have not spoken in secret of the WASTED CONDITION of the earth) I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek you Me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.”
Now, after clearly seeing in Isaiah 45:18 that God did NOT CREATE the earth in VAIN, which means VOID, then the “translation” in the KJV of Genesis 1:2 CONTRADICTS what we KNOW that God is saying in Isaiah 45:18., which we just read.
So again, all that I am doing is showing my readers that by using OTHER meanings of the Hebrew words in Genesis chapter 1, then we can CORRECTLY translate that verse to have it AGREE with the rest of God’s word.
And to me, that is NOT changing the Scriptures to fit my own personal belief.
When I read Genesis 1:1,2 for the first time when I first became a Christian at age 23, I thought it was strange that God would create the earth without form and void.
And thus, at that time in my life, I had NO belief in a previous age of the earth. I simply knew in my spirit that something seemed wrong with that verse.
It is like God somehow KNEW that there would be a CONTROVERSY among Christians over Genesis 1:1,2.
For you see, in the CONTEXT of Isaiah 45:18, God tells us WHY He did NOT create the earth in vain.
Then in the next verse, verse 19, we see a clue that God did NOT speak in SECRET at the time of the DARK place on the earth.
And in Genesis 1:26 we read, “Let us make MAN in our image after OUR likeness and let THEM have dominion…and over all the earth”.
Notice the plural pronoun “us”. God is speaking to His angels, the Elohim, because God is ALSO an Elohim.
So then, ask yourself the question, why did God not give the angels dominion over the earth?
Part of the answer is in Hebrews 2:5.
Hebrews 2:5-9.
“ For unto the angels has He NOT put in SUBJECTION the world to come, whereof we speak.
Hebrews 2:6. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that You are mindful of him? Or the Son of MAN, that You visit him?
Hebrews 2:7. You MADE him a little lower than the angels; You CROWNED him with glory and honor, and did SET him over the works of YOUR hands:
Hebrews 2:8. You have put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that He put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not YET all things put under him.
Hebrews 2:9. But we see Jesus, (Or we, the Apostles of Jesus UNDERSTAND who Jesus truly is, we view Jesus) who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.”
So then, God made MAN and the Son of MAN a little LOWER or inferior to the angels, according to Psalm 8:5, that was fulfilled in Hebrews 2:6-9, which we just read.
Let us go ahead and also read Psalm 8:1-6.
Now, keep in mind as you read this passage of Scripture, the angels or the Elohim are ASKING the questions.
In other words, the angels are wondering WHY God created the humans and why God VISITS the Son of MAN, Jesus every morning when Jesus was a child.
Psalm 8:1-6.
“O LORD our Lord, how excellent is Your NAME in all the earth! Who has set Your GLORY above the heavens. (Or Yahweh, Your Lord, how excellent is Your NAME in all the earth!
Your Lord has set Your GLORY above the heavens seated in heavenly places above the angels. MAN and the Son of MAN is God’s INTENDED GLORY.
But all men have FALLEN SHORT of God’s GLORY that He INTENDED for ALL humans to receive.
And that is why God DESIRES all men to be saved. God takes NO PLEASURE in the death of the wicked.
The LOST are a casualty of the WAR that Lucifer wages against God)
Psalm 8:2. Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings (Or according to the CONFESSIONS of faith in Jesus out the the mouths of babes in Christ who drink the milk of your word) have You ORDAINED strength because of Your ENEMIES, that (Or in order THAT) You might still the ENEMY and the AVENGER. (The Hebrew word translated as “avenger” literally means the punishment of DEATH, which will ALSO be destroyed in the like of fire along with the Avenger Satan, the fallen angels, and all the lost who rejects God PLAN of Salvation to NOT be saved by Him, HIS WAY)
Psalm 8:3. When I consider Your heavens, the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars, which You have ORDAINED;
Psalm 8:4. What is a man that You are mindful of him? And the Son of MAN, that You VISIT him?
Psalm 8:5. For You have MADE him a little LOWER than the angels, and have CROWNED him with GLORY and HONOR. (So that EVERY knee will bow down at the NAME You have GIVEN the Son of MAN, Jesus.
You CROWNED him with glory and honor so that every tongue with confess he is your Lord to Your GLORY, according to Philippians 2:8-11)
Psalm 8:6. You MADE him to have dominion over the works of YOUR hands; (After the cross and resurrection, according to Acts 2:36 and many other verses of Scripture) You have put all things under his feet:”
And God did all of this to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
Now, let us go back and read the CONTEXT of Isaiah 45:18 where God did NOT create the earth in VAIN and read Isaiah 45:7 again.
Remember that I already explained that the TRANSLATION in the KJV of verse 7 CONTRADICTS the CONTEXT in Isaiah 45:18.
A more CORRECT translation of Isaiah 45:7.
“I form the light, and CUT DOWN darkness: I make peace, and CUT DOWN evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
So then, as you can see, I do NOT have an agenda to try and prove the man-made theory of evolution.
I do NOT have an agenda to try to prove that the angels existed BEFORE God created Adam.
And I do NOT have an agenda to prove that the earth is an OLD earth that was created LONG before God created Adam because I NEED an OLD earth to fit my own belief.
But rather, I am fitting my old belief to what the Bible ITSELF actually teaches us when God’s word is CORRECTLY translated to AGREE with ITSELF!
Now, does an OLD earth ALLOW the fossil evidence on the earth to be much older than just 6,000 years old?
Yes, but that is NOT my agenda. Does the evidence of the fossils being OLDER than 6,000 years old PROVE the theory of evolution? NO! Absolutely NOT!
So then, all that an OLD earth proves is that the fossils COULD be much older than 6,000 years old, but that is NOT the reason that I believe that the Bible ITSELF teaches us of an OLD earth.
Therefore, argument #2 against an OLD earth is NOT VALID!
In other words, to argue that the ONLY reason that Christians believe in an OLD earth is to COMPROMISE the Bible to AGREE with science is NOT a valid argument.
And neither does that argument prove a YOUNG earth.
Plus, it wrongly accuses Christians of ACCEPTING the theory of evolution based on the FACT that the fossil record GRADUALLY built up in layers over millions of years.
No Christian that I am aware of ACCEPTS the theory of evolution as the WAY that God created Adam.
And that brings us to argument number three against an OLD earth.
Argument #3 AGAINST an OLD earth.
The “Lucifer's Flood” concept destroys the reason the Gap Theory was first proposed.
Gap theorists accept the earth as very old (billions of years), because evolutionists claim that the fossils containing rocks were supposedly laid down over millions of years.
To account for the fossil record that is thus said to pre-date man, some Gap theorists propose that the fossil-containing sediments were formed by “Lucifer's Flood” (as described above) which supposedly occurred between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 millions of years ago due to the fall of Satan. By doing this, they are saying that the fossil record was formed by a catastrophe. But this means they have just destroyed the very reason they wanted a gap in the first place—the idea that the sediments were formed slowly over millions of years; thus the earth is very old. This is a major inconsistency.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #3 is NOT valid!
NO! The very reason for an OLD earth has
NOTHING to do with WANTING the theory of evolution to be correct.
Every Christian that I am aware of that teaches an OLD earth also teaches AGAINST the man-made theory of evolution.
Do you see how this argument is based upon the FALSE assumption that OLD earth Christians WANT the show progression of evolution to be correct.
The TRUTH of the matter is that we believe the earth is OLD because an OLD earth AGREES with what the Bible ITSELF teaches us.
In other words, it makes no sense to try to cram the creation of the angels into what the young earth Christians call the creation “week” in Genesis chapter 1.
For you see, there is NO mention of God creating the angels in Genesis 1:3-31 when God supposedly created the earth and the entire universe only 6,000 years ago.
But in Job 38:1-13, the Bible itself teaches us that the angels rejoiced and shouted for joy when God TRIUMPHED over Lucifer and the fallen angels with a FLOOD over the earth.
And thus, the angels already existed when God RESTORED the earth in Genesis 1:3-31.
Can you not see that God created man and the Son of MAN a little LOWER than the ANGELS?
And that means that the angels ALREADY existed long before God created Adam.
So yes, MAN was created around 6,000 years ago, but that does NOT dogmatically mean that the EARTH was created around 6,000 years ago.
Please read Job 38:1-13.
“Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, (Or Yahweh answered Job concerning the HURRICANE) and said, (Look up the meaning of the Hebrew words for yourself and you will see that I am only using the OTHER meanings so that Scripture agrees WITH ALL of the SCRIPTURES)
Job 38:2. Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? (Or Job, who is this Elihu, which means the god of Him, who covers my PLAN of Salvation by saying no man can know and understand the Almighty. So then, Job)
Job 38:3. Gird up, now your loins like a man; (I want you to think like a WARRIOR concerning my PLAN or counsel) for I will demand of you, and answer you me. (The name “Job” means hated and he will return. Mean hated Jesus and he will return.
So then, the name Job and some of what is written in the book of Job are figures of Jesus)
Job 38:4. Where were you WHEN I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding. (There was NO man yet created when God laid the foundations of the earth.
And God laid the cornerstone which became the head cornerstone)
Job 38:5. Who has laid the measures thereof, if you know? (Or who has APPOINTED the EXTENSION thereof?
Or who EXTENDED the earth to have an appointed time before the earth shall PERISH in the FIRE of My judgment to CUT DOWN and destroy all evil for all eternity future) Or who has stretched the line upon it? (Or who has OVERTHROWN the RULE OVER it. When I say, Or with another meaning, it is what the Hebrew word ALSO means.
And thus, I am showing you other possible TRANSLATIONS, which I believe AGREE with every other verse in the Bible)
Job 38:6. Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? (Or WHAT? Are the ancient controllers or Elohim over the earth thereof going to SINK?) Or who laid the cornerstone thereof; (Or who LAID or more correctly translated, who TAUGHT the cornerstone thereof.
This is a hidden PROPHECY of the Son of MAN, Jesus, becoming the HEAD cornerstone to rule over the earth in the world to come. But WHEN did Yahweh lay or literally TEACH His cornerstone?
Or more precisely, WHEN did Yahweh DEVISE His PLAN of salvation?)
Job 38:7. WHEN the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Or more correctly translated, WHEN did all of the above take place?
When did Yahweh lay the FOUNDATIONS of the earth? It was WHEN morning stars, the good angels, TRIUMPHED together and the sons of God shouted for JOY.
Now, WHY did the angels shout for JOY? The same reason that WE will give thanks to Almighty God in Revelation 11:15-18, WHEN God and His Warrior King, Jesus, OVERTHROW the WICKED and the high ones, Satan, and the fallen angel.
We will rejoice when Satan is bound for a thousand years in the bottomless pit and Yahweh sets His Son Jesus to be the RIGHTEOUS King over the earth for 1000 years)
Job 38:8. Or who SHUT UP the SEA with doors, (Or who bruised the head of Lucifer before God created man on the earth) when it BROKE FORTH, (Or with Lucifer and the fallen angels GUSHED forth) as if it had issued out of the womb? (And FLOODED the earth with his army. It was WHEN God laid the CORNERSTONE, His SECRET PLAN of Salvation)
Job 38:9. WHEN I made the cloud the garment thereof, (And darkness was upon the face of the DEEP, the FLOOD over the earth covering the mountains and the earth BECAME without form and VOID) and thick darkness a swaddling band for it, (Or when I wrapped the earth in several layers of THICK clouds of darkness all the way around it)
Job 38:10. And break up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, (Or bring to BIRTH by reason of my DECREES, set bars and doors.
Or these are my FOUNDATIONAL RULES for the earth and the sea that I am BIRTHING or TRAVAILING into place.
In other words, God foresaw that mankind would CORRUPT themselves by obeying the voice of His enemy, Satan.
So God allowed room for another JUDGMENT by a worldwide FLOOD over the mountains in the days of Noah)
Job 38:11. And said, Hitherto shall you come, but no further: and here shall your proud waves be stayed?
Job 38:12. Have you commanded the morning since your days; and caused the dayspring to know his place; (Satan is the morning star, according to Revelation 2:28 and Isaiah 14:12.
For you see, the name Lucifer means morning star.
And the dayspring is Jesus, the LIGHT that God created in Genesis 1:3, according to Luke 1:78)
Job 38:13. That it (The LIGHT, the dayspring) might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?”
So then, who were the WICKED that were shaken OUT OF the earth WHEN God FLOODED the earth BEFORE God created Adam.
In other words, God is asking Job and us, where was MAN when all of this took place.
The answer is that God had not yet created the human race, not even the first man, Adam.
And thus, the wicked shaken out of the earth were the PREVIOUS inhabitants of the earth who had skeletons SIMILAR to human skeletons.
And that is WHY the fossil record SEEMS as IF man MIGHT have evolved over millions of years.
But WHERE is the MISSING LINK? There is NO so-called missing link, because God REPLENISHED the earth with a NEW species of beings called the HUMANS, translated as MAN in the KJV.
So again, the answer to the young earth argument is NO! Argument #3 is NOT a VALID argument against an OLD earth.
For you see, the entire Universe COULD have been created in a blink of an eye, but that creation was NOT just 6,000 years ago.
We just read in Job 38:1-13 that God FLOODED the earth so that the WICKED might be shaken out of it.
And that happened WHEN God LAID the CORNERSTONE, His PLAN of Salvation, the Lamb SLAIN from the FOUNDATION of the earth, God’s SECRET weapon to destroy His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
And that was when the sons of God, the good angels UNITED and TRIUMPHED over the fallen angels to bind them to the earth and the atmosphere of the earth.
And thus, the stars, the good angels, shouted for JOY! WHAT? Are the controllers over the earth made to SINK?
Now think about what happened to the wicked in the FLOOD of Noah?
They drowned and SANK to the bottom of the DEEP. And that is what happened to the WICKED inhabitants on the earth in the previous AGE when Lucifer was once a GOOD angel that God SET as a watcher over the earth BEFORE Lucifer was filled with PRIDE and waged war against God.
Hebrews 1:7 says that God made His angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire.
Now, I interpret that to mean that God destroyed the BODIES of Satan and the fallen angels BEFORE God RESTORED the earth and made them DISEMBODIED spirits.
And on their final Day of Judgment, Satan and the fallen angels will be made a BLAZING FIRE in the lake of fire where they will be consumed to ASHES, according to Ezekiel 28:18.
Please read all of the studies under the heading ** Q-0. WHY are we HERE? - Is God at WAR?**
But for now, let us move on to argument number four against an OLD earth.
Argument #4 AGAINST an OLD earth.
The Flood of Noah's day MUST have been only a local or tranquil event. If the fossil record is explained on the basis of either “Lucifer's Flood” or the evolutionary ages, then the flood of Noah's day must have left virtually no trace. Thus, Noah's flood must have been just a local event or a tranquil flood that did no geologic work. This is the reason most ardent Gap theorists insist Noah's flood was just a local event.
However, Genesis depicts Noah's flood as a catastrophic event that covered the whole world. It was not a local flood, and it certainly was not a tranquil event.(Read Genesis 6-9.)
If the Gap theorist wants to explain the fossil record with a catastrophe, why not do it with one the Bible does talk about (Noah's flood) rather than one it doesn't talk about (“Lucifer's Flood”)?
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #4 is NOT valid!
As you can see the first FOUR arguments are actually the SAME argument based on the FALSE assumption that MOST Christians who believe in an OLD earth SUPPOSEDLY WANT the fossil records to prove evolution.
But yet, every Christian that I am aware of who teaches an OLD earth, teaches AGAINST the fossil records as being any kind of proof for the evolution theory.
In other words, MOST Christians who believe in an OLD earth teach that the fossil record was the result of a worldwide catastrophic FLOOD that happened when God CUT DOWN the WICKED ruling over the earth.
Now, not all OLD earth Christians translate and interpret Genesis 1:1-31 in the same WAY that God has shown to me.
But the end result is the same as other OLD earth Christians having a “GAP” of an unknown period of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.
And that gap of time allows the earth to have BECOME without form and void so that it HARMONIZES with Isaiah 45:18.
And for that reason, I am not going to spend any more time refuting the arguments based on the fossil records as being WHY Christians believe in an OLD earth.
The TRUTH of the matter is that we believe in an OLD earth because the Bible itself has a LOT to say about the OLD earth as you will see as you continue reading this study in God’s word.
And thus, argument #4 is NOT a valid argument. For you see, the Bible DOES indeed have a LOT to say about TWO FLOODS.
Please read the study called D-28. The PRE-ADAMIC LUCIFERIAN FLOOD!
But for now, let us move on to argument number five.
Argument #5 AGAINST an OLD earth.
Basically, the young earth argument #5 is that their own young earth scientists argue that the earth does not HAVE to be millions of years old to have a fossil record that other scientists CLAIM took millions of years to form.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #5 is NOT valid!
In my rebuttal explaining WHY argument #5 is NOT a valid argument, I will use THEIR own argument to refute their
so-called NEW mountain of “SCIENTIFIC” evidence for a YOUNG earth much younger than the 4.5 BILLION year old earth claimed by other scientists.
Now, how MUCH younger than 4.5 BILLION years they never show, say, or even try to explain from the evidence of science from their own scientists.
And that tells me that they could know something from that NEW science that they cannot disclose.
Otherwise, it would disprove their whole argument for a young earth using SCIENCE as their proof.
But what they DO openly say still DISPROVES their so-called mountain of new scientific evidence for a young earth that is younger than 4.5 BILLION years old.
But again, they never say how much younger. In other words, IF they had rock solid scientific evidence that the earth could NOT possibly be older than 6,000 years, then you can be absolutely sure they would post that new evidence on the front page and on every page of their arguments against an OLD earth. But they do not.
Here is a quote from a different Trinitarian website openly admitting that no one can prove by SCIENCE how old or how young the earth is.
“The problem is, as we consider the topic of origins, all so-called “evidence” must be interpreted. Facts don’t speak for themselves. Interpreting the facts of the present becomes especially difficult when reconstructing the historical events that produced those present-day facts, because no humans have always been present to observe all the evidence and to record how all the evidence was produced.
Forensic scientists must make multiple assumptions about things they cannot observe. How was the original setting different? Were different processes in play? Was the scene later contaminated? Just one wrong assumption or one tiny piece of missing evidence could totally change how they reconstruct the past events that led to the present-day evidence.”
Again, I can care less HOW MUCH older that the earth is OLDER than 6,000 years old.
All I know for SURE is that the GENEALOGIES of man ONLY date the AGE of the human race and NOT the AGE of the earth itself.
In other words, it makes NO sense to argue that God created the entire Universe EXCEPT for JUST the earth.
And then, God supposedly created the earth without form and VOID, which CONTRADICTS Isaiah 45:7.
Now WHY do they say that God created the entire Universe EXCEPT for the earth? How else could the angels have existed and for Lucifer to have a THRONE if NOTHING was created BEFORE God created the earth? How could Lucifer have said that he would ascend above the CLOUDS in Isaiah 14:14, IF there were no CLOUDS until Genesis 1:6-9?
Can you not see that IF God created the angels at the SAME time that God created Adam during a literal six 24 hour day span of time, then that would mean that God created ONE THIRD of the angels to be EVIL.
And consequently, the very thing that God is AGAINST as His ENEMY, he had to have created that way IF the earth is only 6,000 years old.
But if the earth is OLDER than mankind, then that allows for God to have created the angels PERFECT in the DAY that he created them. And thus, God is JUST to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels by the MAN who he ORDAINED and raised from the dead, according to Acts 17:29-31.
Here is another quote from that same Trinitarian website using NEW scientific evidence that the DINOSAURS were made extinct by a FLOOD! But WHICH flood? Were the dinosaurs drowned during the flood of Noah or during the Luciferian FLOOD before God created Adam?
“Several Teratophoneus curriei dinosaurs, which belong to the same family as the bigger Tyrannosaurus rex, have been found in Utah, USA, buried and fossilized together. According to science writer Tom Whipple, “These dinosaurs were, the scientists concluded, killed together in a single event, probably a flood.”1 We agree. There you have it, the shortest article on our website!
Of course, there is more to the story. The flood hypothesis is but one of the ideas put forward by the scientists, although it is the preferred one.”
Now, according to the Bible ITSELF in Genesis 6:19, God brought EVERY living thing of ALL flesh, TWO of every sort into the Ark to be saved.
So then, WHERE are the DINOSAURS if they lived on the earth with Adam to the days of the flood of Noah?
The TRUTH is that the dinosaurs lived during a PREVIOUS age of the earth and they were destroyed during the Luciferian FLOOD before God created Adam.
Some of the young earth Christians go to great lengths to try to prove that God ALSO led the dinosaurs two by two onto the ark as well.
But if that were true, then WHERE are the dinosaurs today? What great catastrophe wiped out all of the dinosaurs if they survived the flood in Noah’s day?
They have no satisfactory answers for the fossil record of the dinosaurs. So again, argument #5 is NOT a valid argument against the OLD earth. In fact, it SUPPORTS the Old earth in my own opinion.
Let us move on to argument number 6 against an OLD earth.
Argument #6 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“The Gap theorists believe that there was animal death before Adam, but the Bible teaches adamantly there was no death before Adam. To accept death before Adam is to destroy the foundational message of the cross.
On the basis of a number of passages of Scripture (e.g., Romans 5:12, I Corinthians 15:21), it is understood that there could not have been sin or death
before Adam. I Corinthians 15 makes it plain that this is physical death, not just spiritual death. This is consistent with the fact that Genesis 1:29 and 30 teach us that the animals and man were originally created vegetarian.
In Hebrews 9:22, we are told that “without the shedding of blood there is no remission” of sin. In other words, God introduced death and bloodshed because of sin as the means by which man could be redeemed. If death and bloodshed of animals (or man) existed before Adam sinned, then the whole basis of atonement—the basis of redemption—is destroyed.”
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #6 is NOT valid!
The TRUTH of the matter is that sin entered into the WORLD and DEATH because of sin.
Now, we all know that this PRESENT world is NOT the SAME world as the WORLD to come when Jesus returns.
So then, we KNOW that the word “world” means one specific AGE.
And thus, the word “worlds” in the PLURAL means different AGES.
Hebrews 11:1-3 teaches us that the WORLDS were framed by the word of God.
Therefore, to try and argue that it is impossible for there to have been ANOTHER AGE before God created Adam is absolutely absurd.
The Bible has many passages of Scripture giving us evidence of the PREVIOUS AGE of the earth.
Please read the study called D-28 Pre-Adamic Luciferian Flood!
But for now, let us take a closer look at some of the OTHER meanings or the Hebrew words in the following passages of Scripture.
Isaiah 40:21-24.
“Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told to you from the beginning? Have you not understood it FROM the foundations of the earth? (Or have you not understood BECAUSE of the foundations of the earth in the plural, as in, more than just one founding of the earth)
Isaiah 40:22. It is He that sits upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; (Or as or like locusts in Revelation 9:3-7) that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, (Or that OVERTHROWS the heavens like crumbling) and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 40:23. That brings the princes to NOTHING; He makes the judges of the earth as vanity. (Speaking of bringing the prince of the powers of the air and his principalities to NOTHING.
In other words, God is in the process of bringing an END to Satan and the fallen angels and the WAR that they waged against God and the other side of heaven, the good angels)
Isaiah 40:24. Yea, they (Satan and the fallen angels, the princes) shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and He shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.”
In other words, Satan and the fallen angels will be a BLAZE of fire in the lake of fire to be consumed to ASHES.
Isaiah 44:24.
“Thus says the LORD, Your redeemer, and He that formed you from the womb, I am the LORD that makes all things; that stretches forth the heavens alone; that spreads abroad the earth by myself;”
Another possible translation is that Yahweh is saying, I shall OVERTHROW that PART of the heavens that POUNDS the earth AGAINST Me or oppresses the earth against My Will.
Zechariah 12:1.
“The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, says the LORD, which stretches forth the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him.”
The burden of prophecy is Yahweh’s displeasure in the death of the wicked. It grieves God for there to be casualties of WAR.
Again, another possible translation is that Yahweh has and is still in the process of OVERTHROWING the heavens that waged a WAR against the other side of heaven, the good angels.
The phrase, “and LAYS the foundation” can be translated or understood as Yahweh sat down together with the Elohim, both the rebellious angels and the good angels to SETTLE the earth or to bring PEACE to the earth, and said, let us make man in our image and after our likeness and give man DOMINION over the earth.
Behold, at the birth of Jesus, the angels proclaimed Glory to God in the highest, PEACE on earth and GOODWILL toward men.
Once Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even atheists understand the REASON that Yahweh CREATED the Son of MAN, Jesus, was to have DOMINION over the work of Yahweh’s hands.
And after you understand that the REASON that Yahweh did that is to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
Then you can understand that God made His human Son to become a Lord, a King, and a God, to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels.
For a deeper understanding of this WAR that Lucifer and one third of the angels waged against the throne of Almighty God, please read the studies under the subject category called **Q-0 Why Are We Here? Is God at WAR?**
But for now, let us move on to argument number seven against an OLD earth and a PREVIOUS AGE of the earth.
Argument #7 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“The most obvious and straightforward reading of Genesis 1 provides a prima facie case that Moses, under the direction of God, intended to write a literal historic account of what God had revealed to him (or to his antecedents), and not a cryptic message with clues for the super-intelligent.
In other words, if God had meant us to understand that there was a gap of billions of years between verses 1 and 2, involving so many details about Satan, sin, judgment, punishment, re-creation, etc., we might reasonably expect that He would have provided the author with at least some of these alleged details. He did not. Nor are they to be found anywhere else in the Bible.”
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #7 is NOT valid!
The phrase “prima facie” means based on the first impression; accepted as correct until proved otherwise.
Now, IF God had INTENDED His word to be read strictly a “literal” word for word “HISTORY”, then WHY did God HIDE so many HIDDEN PROPHECIES within the historical accounts?
God gave us His Holy Spirit to TEACH us the HIDDEN things of God, according to Job 12:21,22, Daniel 2:22, Isaiah 28:9-13, Matthew 10:26, Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, Luke 12:2, 1 Corinthians 2:7-16, and many other verses of Scripture.
And thus, Christians do NOT need to be “super-intelligent” to understand that God puts information about Satan and the fallen angels, a little here, and a little there all through His word, according to Isaiah 28:9-13.
But rather, they simply need God’s Holy Spirit to teach them. God did this to keep His plan of salvation a SECRET from His ENEMIES.
So then, where do you think all of those “so MANY DETAILS of Satan, sin, judgment, punishment, re-creation, etc…these alleged details” came from, IF they did not come from the Bible itself?
Did we make all of these details up in our mind? NO! We found them in the Bible, a little here, and a little there, just like God said He would teach us.
Can you not see that their argument #7 CLAIMS that there is NOTHING ANYWHERE in the Bible that speaks of these so-called “alleged details”.
Obviously, the Trinitarian author of this article must not read the Bible to know the Scriptures that clearly teach us about Satan and the JUDGMENT of Satan and his angels.
Please read the following verse of Scripture and then do your own “cross-reference” Bible study.
John 16:11.
“Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”
If there is nothing anywhere in the Bible about Satan and the fallen angels as this Trinitarian author claims, then HOW did Jude KNOW about the angels bound in chains reserved for the Day of Judgment, according to Jude 1:5,6?
Let us go ahead and read that passage of Scripture to put you in REMEMBRANCE of the JUDGMENT awaiting the ANGELS.
Jude 1:5,6.
“I will therefore put you in REMEMBRANCE, though you ONCE KNEW THIS, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jude 1:6. AND the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the JUDGMENT of the great day.”
Clearly, the young earth argument number seven is NOT a valid argument.
And, in truth, the ONLY argument for a “young” earth is their INTERPRETATION of the phrase, “evening and the morning” to mean a LITERAL 24 hour day.
Let us move on to argument #8 against an OLD earth.
Argument #8 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“Orthodox Jews and conservative
Christians have always read Genesis 1 as literal history. Prof. Davis Young, a theistic evolutionist geologist, admits:
‘It cannot be denied, in spite of frequent interpretations of Genesis 1 that departed from the rigidly literal, that the almost universal view of the Christian world until the 18th century was that the Earth was only a few thousand years old. Not until the development of modern scientific investigation of the Earth itself would this view be called into question within the church.”
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #8 is NOT valid!
And during the dark ages of the church, Christians WRONGLY believed that the EARTH was FLAT, until modern scientific investigation of the earth did that view of a flat earth was called into QUESTION.
But Christians HUMBLED themselves that they could be wrong about their “interpretation” of the Bible that the earth was FLAT.
Please read all of the studies under the heading **Ff-0. Does the Bible teach the Earth is FLAT?**
So then, new REVELATION from God exposing FALSE teaching of church TRADITION does NOT prove that new revelation is not from Almighty God.
In fact, Daniel prophesied that in the last days that KNOWLEDGE would INCREASE and our LIGHT would SHINE as the BRIGHTNESS of the firmament.
Daniel 12:3,4.
“And they that be WISE shall SHINE as the BRIGHTNESS of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Daniel 12:4. But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be INCREASED.”
And the subject of the CONTEXT is the knowledge of God’s word that will turn many to righteousness.
So, NO! Argument #8 is NOT a valid argument. It is not a valid argument to say that new revelation from God is NOT from God, when God told Daniel to prophesy that knowledge would INCREASE in the end of days.
And clearly, the coming of Jesus is very near in our day.
Let us move on to argument number nine against an OLD earth.
Argument #9 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“If the being who became Satan had already rebelled! And if there were billions of ‘Lucifer-flood’ fossils with the marks of disease, violence, death, and decay, corresponding to the perishing of an entire pre-Adamic race and the extinction of a complete world of animals, with Adam and Eve walking around on top of buried fossils, how could God have called all this ‘very good’?”
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #9 is NOT valid!
Is there sickness and disease in THIS PRESENT world? Will there be sickness and disease in the NEW earth after this present earth PERISHES in the fire of God’s final day of WRATH to destroy all EVIL?
NO! Absolutely NOT! The NEW earth will be PERFECT once again.
So why is it so hard for some Christians to see that God DESTROYED a PREVIOUS WICKED age and RESTORED the earth to be made perfect once again in Genesis chapter 1?
Please consider that God laid the CORNERSTONE at the foundation of the earth for the very purpose to REMOVE the WICKED from the earth.
So then, we only have two choices, God either CREATED the WICKED in Genesis 1:1 or God CUT DOWN the WICKED in Genesis 1:1.
Which translations AGREES with Isaiah 45:18? To me, God CUT DOWN the wicked FIRST, and then God RESTORED the earth to be habitable once again for the PURPOSE of JUDGING Satan and the fallen angels.
Do you not thing that God can RESTORE the earth to be VERY GOOD? So again, argument number nine is not a valid argument.
Let us move on to argument number 10 against an OLD earth.
Argument #10 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“ The word ‘Was’ [Hebrew hayetah] in Genesis 1:2 is translated ‘became’ by gappists, giving the reading, ‘And the earth became [or had become] without form and void.’ Gap theorist A.C. Custance devotes nearly 80% of his book Without Form and Void, including 13 Appendices, to advocating this translation, especially with the pluperfect, ‘had become’.
However, recognized grammarians, lexicographers, and linguists have almost uniformly rejected the translations ‘became’ and ‘had become’.11 It is a basic exegetical fallacy to claim that because Strong’s Concordance lists ‘became’ as one of the meanings of haya, it is legitimate to translate it this way in the particular context of Genesis 1:2. It is simply grammatically impossible when the verb haya is combined with a waw disjunctive—in the rest of the Old Testament, Waw + a noun + haya (qal perfect, 3rd person) is always translated, ‘was’ or ‘came’, but never ‘became’.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #10 is NOT valid!
Is not the Strong’s concordance a
“recognized” grammarian of the Hebrew and Greek words? YES, it is well recognized and widely accepted as being accurately correct in defining the Hebrew and Greek words into the English language.
And since BECAME is one of the meanings of the Hebrew word “hayah”, then argument #10 is NOT a valid argument to try to prove a YOUNG earth that is not one day older than 6,000 years old.
But let us ASSUME that BECAME is too strong of a word using THEIR argument that it can only mean “was” or “CAME”.
We have already learned that the Hebrew word “bara” ALSO means to CUT DOWN.
So then, let us use that meaning “create” in verse 1 along with the meaning “CAME” in verse 2.
In other words, God created the earth and the earth CAME without form and void. That is a better translation than the earth WAS without form and void.
But to me, a more CORRECT translation or understanding of Genesis 1:1,2 is as follows.
A more correct translation of Genesis 1:1,2.
“FIRST, God CUT DOWN the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 1:2. And the earth CAME without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
So then, after God CUT DOWN the earth to rid it of the WICKED inhabitants on the earth, and the earth CAME without form and void or EMPTY.
Now to me, CAME and BECAME are saying the SAME thing.
So again, argument #10 is NOT a valid argument because the translation using the verb WAS without form and void right after God just CREATED it CONTRADICTS the SCRIPTURE in Isaiah 45:18.
Now, the concordance on E-Sword does not even have the verb WAS in the definition of the Hebrew word “hayah”.
H1961
הָיָה
hâyâh
haw-yaw'
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): - beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.
So, to me, to dogmatically demand that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Hebrew word “hayah” to mean BECAME without form and void or empty is NOT a valid argument.
Again, God CLEARLY says in Isaiah 45:18 that He did NOT create the earth VOID.
Let us move on to argument number 11 against an OLD earth.
Argument #11 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“Gappists overlook the words of Jesus in Mark 10:6, ‘But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.’ The Lord Himself obviously did not envisage any significant gap between Genesis 1:1 and the creation of Adam and Eve.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #11 is NOT valid!
Again, we are reading TRANSLATIONS of the original Greek text. Please notice that Jesus did NOT say in the beginning of creation. But rather, Jesus said FROM the beginning.
Now, the Greek word translated as “from” also means BECAUSE OF the beginning of creation.
And the Greek word translated as “beginning” literally means FIRST.
So then, BECAUSE of the FIRST creation God made them male and female.
Also, the word translated as creation means CREATURE. Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of every CREATURE.
So then, from the beginning of the CREATURE God made THEM male and female.
And the root meaning of creation means FORMATION.
So then, in the original formation God made THEM male and female for this REASON, a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife…therefore, what God has JOINED together, let no man put asunder.
There is nothing in the context to dogmatically demand that Jesus is speaking about the beginning of the creation of the entire universe in the eternity past.
Now, I personally believe that the first time that the Hebrew word “bara” should be translated as CREATED is in Genesis 1:27 when God CREATED Aleph Tav Messiah Jesus MAN.
However, the other two times in Genesis chapter one, Genesis 1:1 and in Genesis 1:18, the Hebrew word “bara” SHOULD be translated as CUT DOWN.
Please read the studies called D-29. A FRESH NEW LOOK at GENESIS 1:1, D-25. A NEW LOOK at John 1:1, In the Beginning!, and D-28. The PRE-ADAMIC LUCIFERIAN FLOOD!
So again, the answer is no! Argument #11 against an OLD earth does NOT prove a YOUNG earth.
Let us move on to argument #12.
Argument #12 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“Exodus 20:11 says that God made all things in heaven and earth in six days. This must therefore have included the angels, all originally created good or holy (Colossians 1:16, Jude 6).
Job 38:4 & 7 suggests that the angels (‘sons of God’) were present when God laid the foundations of the earth, i.e. created it on Day One (Genesis 1:1), before He created light. Angels, being spirit beings, don’t have eyes with human retinas, and so presumably can see in the dark even as God can.
This raises the question as to when these beings rebelled to give rise to Satan and his demonic followers (2 Peter 2:4, Jude 6). This was surely not possible before God pronounced everything as being ‘very good’ near the end of Day Six (Genesis 1:31). Some gappists say that
there was not enough time after Day Six and before the events of Genesis 3 to allow for this rebellion. So how long was it?
We do not know how long it was after Day Six (or Seven?) that the temptation of Eve occurred (Genesis 3). We can suppose that it must have been before Eve became able to conceive (Genesis 4:1), as Cain had a sinful nature, so he must have been conceived after the Fall of his parents.
Let us therefore suppose that there was only a week between Day Six and the (human) Fall. Is this enough time? Consider:...
Those who say, ‘It wouldn’t have been enough,’ and so opt for a gap before Genesis 1:2, are applying human standards of reasoning…
…Why would it take a long time to incite others to join the rebellion? A few hours, or even a day or two, of rabble-rousing has often been sufficient to transform ordinary citizens into a lynch mob–cf. the Jerusalem crowd at the trial of Jesus. God’s subsequent expulsion of the angels who thus sinned from His presence could also easily have occurred within a very short time afterwards—maybe even minutes or less.
We conclude therefore that the time needed for the rebellion of the angels does not require there to be a ‘gap’ in Genesis 1 between verse 1 and 2, and such a notion conflicts with everything being described by God as ‘very good’ at the end of Day Six.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #12 is NOT valid!
WHAT? Has this Trinitarian Christian given an angel an eye examination to make a CLAIM that angels do not have eyes with human retinas?
Can you not see his HUMAN reasoning? He ASSUMES that when God SAID let there be LIGHT that the light is PHYSICAL light.
Genesis 1:3,4 is a PROPHECY of Aleph Tav Messiah Jesus being the light of the WORLD.
Again, there is no mention of the angels being created, formed, or made in Genesis chapter 1, because the angels ALREADY existed BEFORE God created MAN.
WHO do you think God was talking to in Genesis 1:26 when God said, “Let us make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness.”
Keep in mind that WHEN God laid the CORNERSTONE the angels shouted for JOY!
Plus, the very REASON that God made man and the Son of MAN a little LOWER than the angels was to JUDGE the angels. Have you never read Psalm 8:1-6?
It says God made man and the Son of man BECAUSE OF His ENEMIES.
So then, the very REASON God created man was to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan, and the fallen angels.
Therefore, the angels had already rebelled and waged WAR against God BEFORE God created Adam on day SIX.
Now, do you not think that it is VERY GOOD for God to create MAN and the Son of MAN to STILL His ENEMIES if God Himself SAW that His PLAN of Salvation was VERY GOOD?
Again, this whole young earth argument is based SOLELY on the ASSUMPTION that just because God created everything VERY GOOD in Genesis 1:3-31, then it is impossible for there to have been any sin BEFORE the sin of Adam and Eve in the garden.
That is like saying that WHEN God creates the NEW earth very good, then it is IMPOSSIBLE for there to have BEEN any sin BEFORE the new earth is created.
Just because God RESTORED to the earth and called everything that He RESTORED to be VERY GOOD does NOT mean that there was no sin BEFORE Adam sinned.
Also, this Trinitarian sarcastically asks if one week is enough time for Satan to have persuaded ONE THIRD of the angels and the answer is absolutely NOT!
Lucifer had gathered much wealth from TRADING and committed MANY sins, according to Ezekiel 28:14,18.
So again, NO! One week is NOT enough time to do all of that. Let us move on to reason #13 against an OLD earth.
Argument #13 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“The gap theory must redefine the “very good” of Genesis 1:31 because God would have to place Adam, as a very late arrival, in a world that had just been destroyed! Adam would have been walking on the graveyard of literally billions and billions of dead creatures, including the dinosaurs, over which he had never exercised dominion. God would have placed him in a world that would be the domain of a fallen and wicked being (i.e., Satan). This is contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture, as we shall see.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #13 is NOT valid!
Again, Satan could have been God’s ENEMY thousands of years before the good angels triumphed over Satan and his angels to IMPRISON him and the fallen angels to the confines of the atmosphere of the earth during a PREVIOUS AGE.
And when Satan accused God of creating him flawed, then God said, “Let us make man in our image after our likeness” to see if what I create is the reason you waged war against my throne.
And just to make sure, I will make man a little LOWER or inferior to you angels.
And if even one human can live without sin, then my NAME will be cleared and I will destroy you in this fire that I have prepared for you and your angels.
And God SAW that His PLAN was VERY GOOD. Can you not see that what God SAW as being VERY GOOD was the FUTURE when Satan and the fallen angels are JUDGED and found guilty as charged?
Now, before God created Adam He RESTORED the earth to be habitable once again.
For you see, Proverbs 8:30,31 leads me to believe that there were SOME PARTS of the earth that were not habitable IF the KJV translation is correctly translated.
So then, the words, “very good” do not dogmatically mean PERFECT. Why would God PLANT a garden in the east if the WHOLE earth was a perfect paradise?
And if the whole earth was a perfect paradise, then it would not have been a punishment to kick Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden into a PERFECT world.
There is a PROPHECY of Jesus in Deuteronomy 32:4 that says his work is PERFECT.
So if God INTENDED Genesis 1:31 to mean PERFECT instead of very good, then surely God would have used the Hebrew word the means perfect.
The TRUTH of the matter is that God SAW into the future that Him making man and the Son of MAN a little lower than the angels was a VERY GOOD plan.
Let us move on to argument #14 against an OLD earth.
Argument #14 AGAINST an OLD earth.
“The gap theory teaches the existence of pre-Adamic men and women who were destroyed by Lucifer’s flood. Consequently, any human fossils that are found (e.g., the Neanderthals, the hobbits, the Cro-Magnon people, etc.) are considered to be pre-Adamites who have nothing to do with mankind today, even though some of these so-called pre-Adamites are identical to us. This teaching also implies that these pre-Adamites did not possess an eternal soul and so could not be saved.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #14 is NOT valid!
Who says that God MUST SAVE what He created? Now, I do believe that God feels obligated to save any human who seeks to be saved.
For you see, the very reason that God created humans is to JUDGE His ENEMY, Satan and the fallen angels.
Also, when Satan CORRUPTED man to the point that God found only EIGHT souls who had not been corrupted, it REPENTED and GRIEVED God that he had to destroy every man and beast to start over again.
Destruction UPON destruction PAINS God’s soul, according to Jeremiah 4:19-23.
And according to Ezekiel 18:31,32 and Ezekiel 33:11, God takes NO PLEASURE in the death of the wicked.
Thus, I feel that these verses of Scripture teach us that God LOVES mankind while we were yet sinners and that He is pleading with the lost to REPENT so that they will NOT perish.
Also, the fact is that God did not HAVE to save us either, but I am glad He did!
So again, the answer is no! All of the young earth arguments are NOT valid sound Biblical arguments.
But rather, they are human REASONING. Even if the pre-Adamite inhabitants of the earth in the previous age of the earth had no souls, God could have saved them if He so CHOSE to save them.
And maybe God did save the righteous inhabitants in that previous age, IF there were any.
No one can know for sure because not very much is said about the ANCIENT people.
All we know for sure is that there WERE ancient people on the earth BEFORE man, according to Deuteronomy 4:32.
Let us go ahead and read that verse of Scripture.
Deuteronomy 4:32.
“For ask now of the days that are PAST, which were BEFORE you, since (Or by REASON of) the day that God CREATED MAN upon the earth, (In other words, God wants us to ASK Him about the PREVIOUS AGE of the earth BEFORE us that was the REASON for why God CREATED man upon the earth) AND ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there has been any such thing as this great thing is, or has been heard like it?”
And God also wants us to ASK Him about the one side of heaven being AGAINST the other side of heaven. God is asking us if we have ever heard of such an INSOLENT thing as the angels waging a WAR against the other side of heaven, speaking of the good angels.
Now, to me, this war could NOT have started AFTER God created MAN on the SIXTH day.
Therefore, if the war started after day ONE, then according to the young earth creation “interpretation” that leaves FOUR 24 hour days, day TWO through day FIVE for God to create the angels and for ONE THIRD of the angels to REBEL and wage a war against the other side of heaven.
And to me, that young earth interpretation makes God to be a not so good creator to have one third of His creation of angels to turn against Him is just 96 hours.
Now, the gap theory Christians gave the angels BILLIONS of years to CORRUPT themselves, which is a lot easier to believe than 96 hours for the angels to corrupt themselves.
Plain and simple, Psalm 8:1-6 PROVES an OLD earth and that Satan and the fallen angels were God’s ENEMY before day SIX.
Let us move on to argument #15 against an OLD earth.
Argument #15 AGAINST an OLD earth.
If Lucifer’s flood was God’s judgment against Satan, and the earth was razed to become “without form and void,” then why did this flood not destroy the fossil record as well? What about Noah’s flood? Noah’s flood was also a judgment on the earth, and it is used throughout the Bible as an example of God’s judgment on man. Lucifer’s flood is never mentioned once. How can someone believe that Noah’s flood was somehow less impactful, geologically speaking, than an un-mentioned flood, while claiming a literal interpretation of Genesis?
If God created a perfect heaven and earth, then all life on Earth must also be perfect. If this “perfect life” was the source of the fossils buried by a supposed Lucifer’s flood, and sin entered this world by Satan’s rebellion, why do these same fossils show abundant evidence for disease and deformities? The presence of disease and deformities in fossils proves that all things could not have been perfect and that sin was already present before the flood that buried them (Noah's worldwide Flood). If sin was present before God’s judgment of Satan, then either the Bible is wrong or the gap theory is flawed.
My REBUTTAL explaining WHY argument #15 is NOT valid!
Who ever said that God JUDGED Lucifer BEFORE he SINNED? Sin had to be present BEFORE the Luciferain flood, or God would be unjust.
This young earth argument makes no sense.
“If sin was present before God’s judgment of Satan, then either the Bible is wrong or the gap theory is flawed.”
How is the Bible or the gap theory wrong for saying that SIN was PRESENT BEFORE the judgment of Satan?
Now, I sometimes also have used the argument that “either the Bible is wrong or the Christians who believe this or that have errors of interpretation”.
So, I can understand being frustrated when other Christians disagree on how other Christians interpret the Bible.
And, clearly, this young earth Christian seems a bit frustrated to say that it is WRONG for God to judge if sin is PRESENT. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Anyway, all I can do is show you why I believe what I believe.
So, here are some possible answers to the many questions in argument #15 against an OLD earth
Question 1.
If Lucifer’s flood was God’s judgment against Satan, and the earth was razed to become “without form and void,” then why did this flood not destroy the fossil record as well? What about Noah’s flood?
Answer to question 1.
First of all, if a worldwide flood DESTROYS the fossil record, then there would be NO fossil record at all. Otherwise, the Noah flood would have wiped out the fossil record if a worldwide flood could do such a thing.
So then, I am assuming that the question is why are there not TWO separate fossil records, one for each worldwide flood?
Who is to say that the ONE fossil record cannot possibly be from TWO different floods? Perhaps some fossils are from the Luciferian flood while some other fossils are from the flood in the days of Noah?
And it could very well be that God Himself wants to PRESERVE a fossil record as a WITNESS of what took place during the AGE of Lucifer’s reign over the earth during the ante-deluvian or pre-Adamite age.
I do not see that this question proves a young earth or disproves an OLD earth.
Question 2.
Noah’s flood was also a judgment on the earth, and it is used throughout the Bible as an example of God’s judgment on man. Lucifer’s flood is never mentioned once.
Answer to question 2.
One reason for why Lucifer’s flood may not be mentioned specifically by NAME is that it is not an example of God’s judgment on MAN.
God set BOUNDARIES that Satan cannot cross. And thus, only what is COMMON to man is allowed by Almighty God, according to 1 Corinthians 10:13.
Now, as far as more than just one flood NEVER being mentioned is simply NOT a true statement! The word “floods” in the PLURAL is found in many passages of Scripture. Please read the study called D-28. The PRE-ADAMIC LUCIFERIAN FLOOD!
Question 3.
How can someone believe that Noah’s flood was somehow less impactful, geologically speaking, than an un-mentioned flood, while claiming a literal interpretation of Genesis?
Answer to question 3.
Now, I myself have never said that one flood was worse than the other flood.
In fact, in the past, I have never even used the fossil records as a method to prove the two floods.
But, the more that I study this subject, I may start using the fossil records that SUPPORT what the Bible itself teaches.
For you see, the fossil record shows us that there were TWO floods.
Also, I have never CLAIMED to having only a LITERAL interpretation of Genesis chapter one.
To me, the light was not a PHYSICAL light like light from the literal sun.
But rather, when God said, let there be light, God was giving a prophecy of Jesus as the light of the world.
Question 4.
If God created a perfect heaven and earth, then all life on Earth must also be perfect.
Answer to question 4.
NO! It must be ASSUMED that every LOWER creation that God created to inhabit the many planets in the universe MUST have been created just as perfect as it is in HEAVEN.
The only being that God specifically said that He CREATED perfect is Lucifer.
So then, we can safely assume that all of the angels were created perfect since Lucifer is an angelic being.
The Bible says that God MADE the Son of MAN, Jesus PERFECT after the cross and resurrection.
And thus, all we can say for sure is that God did NOT create any angel or human being for the purpose to REBEL against Him.
In fact, when Isaiah 43:10 is correctly translated, it says AGAINST me there was no god formed and neither shall there be HEREAFTER.
In other words, God did NOT create Lucifer to rebel AGAINST Him and neither shall there be HEREAFTER any god that will rebel against me.
Question 5.
If this “perfect life” was the
source of the fossils buried by a supposed Lucifer’s flood, and sin entered this world by Satan’s rebellion, why do these same fossils show abundant evidence for disease and deformities?
Answer to question 5.
There can be sickness, disease, and deformities in the fossil records for many reasons.
Now, he or she does not say just how ABUNDANT the abundant evidence shows for disease and deformities.
Does EVERY single fossil record show disease and deformity?
Were any of the fossil records damaged by the flood and the damage is wrongly interpreted to be caused by sickness, disease, and being born deformed?
Let us ASSUME that over half of the fossil records show disease and deformities and the scientists did NOT error when they came to this conclusion that disease was the CAUSE of the damage.
Does that prove a YOUNG earth? Does it disprove an OLD earth?
NO! It does not prove either. For you see, it must be ASSUMED that every LOWER creation to inhabit the planets MUST be just as perfect as it is in HEAVEN.
But let us again ASSUME that God created everything and ALL that He has ever created, He created completely PERFECT.
And let us assume, as this brother in the Lord has assumed, that the ONLY reason for ANY type of sickness, disease, and being BORN with a DEFORMITY is the result of SIN.
And this argument is only made for the very reason to argue AGAINST an OLD earth.
Therefore, SIN is the cause. So then, why is it IMPOSSIBLE for the sin of Lucifer to be the cause of the disease in the fossil record and ONLY the sin of MAN can be the cause?
Can you not see that this argument is NOT a valid argument.
It does NOT prove a young earth and neither does it disprove an OLD earth.
Question 6.
The presence of disease and deformities in fossils proves that all things could not have been perfect and that sin was already present before the flood that buried them (Noah's worldwide Flood).
Answer to question 6.
Again, this argument is only made for the very reason to argue AGAINST an OLD earth.
What kind of picture does that assumption paint of Almighty God the creator? Is God the AUTHOR of sin?
Why did God ALLOW all of this fossil evidence? Did it take billions of years to form all of this fossil evidence?
Or could this ABUNDANT fossil evidence have been the result of just 96 HOURS of Satan messing around with genetics and DNA that CAUSED all these diseased and deformed animal fossils.
And perhaps God Himself purposely PRESERVED this fossil record for a WITNESS or as evidence to be used against Satan’s on the final Day of Judgment.
Just look at how many DEFORMED mice are in the labs of scientists today.
And all these deformities and DISEASED animals are the result of cloning and other EXPERIMENTS that have happened over a few decades.
My point is that if one argues that the SIN of Adam is the CAUSE of EVERY single sickness, disease, and babies being BORN deformed, then they CONTRADICT the SCRIPTURES.
Please consider these verses of Scripture that clearly teach us that each person will die for their OWN sins, Deuteronomy 24:16, 2 Kings 14:6, Jeremiah 31:29-30, and Ezekiel 18:4,20.
In closing, I want to remind my readers that according to Isaiah 45:18, God did NOT create the earth without form and VOID.
So then, HOW did the earth get that way in Genesis 1:2 since Isaiah 45:18 clearly says that the earth was NOT created VOID?
Can you not see that a YOUNG earth that was originally created just 6,000 years ago and God created EVERYTHING PERFECT makes it IMPOSSIBLE for a YOUNG earth?
Sorry, but just 96 HOURS for ONE THIRD of the angels to turn BAD paints a bad picture of Almighty God to the world.
But BILLIONS of years for the angels to corrupt themselves shows the world that God is GOOD and that God does not create His creatures FLAWED.
WHERE did Satan come from seeing that God created him PERFECT on the day that God created him?
In other words, for a YOUNG earth to be true, then Lucifer had to have been created AFTER day ONE and BEFORE day SIX.
So then, if God created the entire universe in a blink of an eye just 6,000 years ago, then WHERE did EVIL come from in Genesis 1:2?
Now, to ME, God creating the ENTIRE universe in just 144 hours is not logical.
So, I implore you to read all of the studies under the
heading **D-0. The BIBLICAL Unitarian VIEW of Jesus!**
And also read all of the studies under the heading **Q-0. WHY are we HERE? - Is God at WAR?**
For you see, God is at WAR and I feel very strongly that Jesus is going to return very soon in a FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do NOT OBEY the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
It is the only way to bring an END to Satan and the REBELLION of the fallen angels waging a WAR against God so that there will be NO MORE WARS in the eternity future.
Thanks for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
Once Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even atheists understand the REASON that Yahweh CREATED the Son of MAN, Jesus, was to have DOMINION over the work of Yahweh’s hands.
And after you understand that the REASON that Yahweh did that is to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
Then you can understand that God made His human Son to become “a” Lord, “a” King, and “a” God, under and subject to his God and Father in order to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels.
For a deeper understanding of this WAR that Lucifer and one third of the angels waged against the throne of Almighty God, please read the studies under the subject category called ** Q-0 Why Are We Here? Is God at WAR? **.
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