O-7. John 16:27,28 Jesus CAME OUT FROM God!

         O-7. John 16:27,28 Jesus CAME OUT FROM God!

What does John 16:27,28 mean in the light of the whole word of Almighty God?

How the Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844 that is translated as “FROM” in John 16:27,28 is used elsewhere in the Bible.

The controversy between Trinitarian Christians and Biblical Unitarian Christians is whether Jesus was LITERALLY WITH God, at his SIDE in eternity past, as a separate distinct person?

Or was Jesus WITHIN God’s THOUGHTS as an IMAGE in God’s mind or plan of salvation that would BECOME a separate distinct person from God?

Let us read John 16:27,28 where Jesus himself says that he CAME OUT FROM God. And then in the next verse, Jesus says that he CAME FORTH FROM the Father.

Now, I myself see TWO comings forth from God. I see Jesus coming out from God as God’s spoken word that came out from God’s mouth to create the fetus in the womb of the Virgin Mary. Jesus being BORN a CHILD of a woman was the first coming forth of Jesus. And the next coming forth from the Father was at his baptism. This was WHEN God anointed his human Son and sent him out into the world to do the will of God. You read John 16:27,28 and you decide.

I will quote the verse first without the Strong’s number for easier reading. And then below the verse, I will include the Strong’s numbers. We are focusing right now on the Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844 to decide if the Trinitarian INTERPRETATION of the Greek word “para” must, without fail, ALWAYS mean FROM BESIDE God, as in, AT God’s side.

In other words, this Greek word “para” can ALSO mean WITHIN God, because of God, and BY God, as in, a WORK of or by God’s hand. And therefore it must be INTERPRETED by the context and the rest of scripture as to its TRUE meaning in John 16: 27,28.

John 16:27.

“For the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.”

“For G1063 the G3588 Father G3962 himself G846 loves G5368 you, G5209 because G3754 you G5210 have loved G5368 me, G1691 and G2532 have believed G4100 that G3754 I G1473 came out G1831 from G3844 God. G2316.”

John 16:28.

“ I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.”

“ I came forth G1831 from G3844 the G3588 Father, G3962 and G2532 am come G2064 into G1519 the G3588 world: G2889 again, G3825 I leave G863 the G3588 world, G2889 and G2532 go G4198 to G4314 the G3588 Father. G3962”

In both verses, the phrase “CAME OUT” and the phrase “CAME FORTH” is translated from the Greek word “EXERCHOMAI” Strong’s #1831 that is a compound word. The Greek word “exerchomai” is from the two Greek words “EK” Strong’s #1537 and “ERCHOMAI” Strong’s #2060.

The Greek word “EK” means ORIGIN. It means that the ORIGIN of Jesus is from, out of, caused by, because of, and by reason of Almighty God. And the Greek word “ERCHOMAI” means to come, to go, to appear. And the compound word “EXERCHOMAI” means ISSUE, to come forth, to come out, to depart out of, and to proceed forth.

So to ME, I am seeing the ORIGIN of Jesus as God CREATING him. In other words, Jesus came forth into existence OUT FROM WITHIN God.

There is no doubt that the Greek word “PARA” can possibly mean from beside God, as in, at the side of God.

But this Greek word “para” ALSO has many other meanings as well. Below are some verses as to how this Greek word “Para” is used throughout the New Testament. It is used 198 times, so obviously, I did not quote all 198 times.

Here is the definition from a Bible concordance of the Greek word “Para”.

παρά

para

par-ah'

A primary preposition; properly near, that is, (with genitive case) from beside (literally or figuratively), (with dative case) at (or in) the vicinity of (objectively or subjectively), (with accusative case) to the proximity with (local [especially beyond or opposed to] or causal [on account of]). In compounds it retains the same variety of application: - above, against, among, at, before, by, contrary to, X friend, from, + give [such things as they], + that [she] had, X his, in, more than, nigh unto, (out) of, past, save, side . . . by, in the sight of, than, [there-] fore, with. In compounds it retains the same variety of application.

Total KJV occurrences: 198

In Luke 6:19 we see the Greek word “para” to communicate to us that virtue or power came OUT OF Jesus or OUT FROM WITHIN Jesus and the OUT OF him as opposed to the power of God being beside the side of Jesus.

Luke 6:19.

“And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) and healed them all.”

“And G2532 the G3588 whole G3956 multitude G3793 sought G2212 to touch G680 him: G846 for G3754 there went virtue out G1831 G1411 of G3844 him, G846 and G2532 healed G2390 them all. G3956”

We know that this virtue or power come out from WITHIN Jesus for it was God DWELLING IN Jesus who was the one doing the works of healing. In John 1:6 we see that John the Baptist was sent FROM God. And we know that John the Baptist was not sent down from heaven being BESIDE God. Now obviously, John did not come out from within God either. Rather the meaning of from here means the WORK of God. It was God who was the CAUSE of John being sent.

John 1:6.

“There was a man sent from God, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) whose name was John.”

“There was G1096 a man G444 sent G649 from G3844 God, G2316 whose G846 name G3686 was John. G2491”

In John 1:14 we see the Greek word translated as “OF” to communicate to us that Jesus was BEGOTTEN OF the Father.

Here is what the Bible concordance says the word “begotten” means.

γίνομαι

ginomai

ghin'-om-ahee

A prolonged and middle form of a primary verb; to cause to be (“gen” -erate), that is, (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literally, figuratively, intensively, etc.): - arise be assembled, be (come, -fall, -have self), be brought (to pass), (be) come (to pass), continue, be divided, be done, draw, be ended, fall, be finished, follow, be found, be fulfilled, + God forbid, grow, happen, have, be kept, be made, be married, be ordained to be, partake, pass, be performed, be published, require, seem, be showed, X soon as it was, sound, be taken, be turned, use, wax, will, would, be wrought.

Total KJV occurrences: 672

John 1:14.

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)

“And G2532 the G3588 Word G3056 was made G1096 flesh, G4561 and G2532 dwelt G4637 among G1722 us, G2254 (and G2532 we beheld G2300 his G846 glory, G1391 the glory G1391 as G5613 of the only begotten G3439 of G3844 the Father,) G3962 full G4134 of grace G5485 and G2532 truth. G225”

As you are reading the various meanings of the Greek word “para” please keep in mind the PROPHECIES concerning Jesus. What I mean by this is that Jesus was PROPHESIED to come into being as opposed to God’s Son already existing in eternity past. Please read Hebrew 1:5 which is a quote of a PROPHECY that states in SIMPLICITY that God WILL BE a Father to him and that Jesus SHALL BE his Son. So to ME, God’s Son, Jesus, only existed WITHIN God’s THOUGHTS and plan of salvation to bring forth into existence a RIGHTEOUS Son who would obey all that his God and father gave him to do.

Hebrews 1:5.

“For unto which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, THIS DAY have I BEGOTTEN you? And again, I WILL BE to him a Father, and he SHALL BE to me a Son?”

In Mark 12:11 we see the Greek word “para” being used to communicate a WORK or a DOING of Almighty God. The Bible teaches us that Yahweh watches over his word to PERFORM it. Clearly, Jesus is the WORK OF Almighty God.

Mark 12:11.

“This was the Lord's doing, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) and it is marvelous in our eyes?”

“This G3778 was G1096 the Lord's doing, G3844 G2962 and G2532 it is G2076 marvelous G2298 in G1722 our G2254 eyes? G3788”

In the next verse, John 6:46, the translator translated the Greek word “para” as OF God as opposed to FROM God. So to me, if so be that the translator intended Jesus being FROM BESIDE God’s SIDE then you have to wonder why he used the English word OF God here in this verse? Also, it should be noted that the noun God is in the genitive case which makes the noun possessive. And that is why the OF in used. In English, it does not sound right to say FROM OF God or OF OF God.

John 6:46.

“Not that any man has seen the Father, save he which is of God, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) he has seen the Father.”

“Not G3756 that G3754 any man G5100 hath seen G3708 the G3588 Father, G3962 save G1508  he which is G5607 of G3844 God, G2316 he G3778 has seen G3708 the G3588 Father. G3962 ”

Personally, I myself, see John 6:46 as Jesus being a WORK OF God. In Mark, we again see the Greek word “para” as being a WORK, a PERFORMING, or a DOING of God.

Mark 10:27.

“And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with  God :(The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) for with God all things are possible.”

“And G1161 Jesus G2424 looking upon G1689 them G846 saith, G3004 With G3844 men G444 it is impossible, G102 but G235 not G3756 with G3844 God: G2316 for G1063 with G3844 God G2316 all things G3956 are G2076 possible. G1415”

In Mark 8:11 we again see “para” being used to communicate a WORK, a PERFORMING, or a DOING.

Mark 8:11.

“And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) from heaven, tempting him.”

“AndG2532 theG3588 PhariseesG5330 came forth,G1831 andG2532 beganG756 to question withG4802 him,G846 seekingG2212 ofG3844 himG846 a signG4592 fromG575 heaven,G3772 temptingG3985 him.G846”

In Luke 1:30 we can clearly see that the Virgin Mary was NOT with God, at God’s side, up in heaven when she found favor WITH God. So again we see that the Greek word “para” that is translated as FROM in John 16: 27,28 does NOT dogmatically mean from beside God at his side.

Luke 1:30.

“And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for you have found favor with God. (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)”

“AndG2532 theG3588 angelG32 saidG2036 unto her,G846 FearG5399 not,G3361 Mary:G3137 forG1063 thou hast foundG2147 favourG5485 withG3844 God.G2316”

In Luke 1:45 we can clearly see the PERFORMANCE of the SPOKEN word that CAME FORTH OUT FROM the mouth of God, to conceive in the womb of the Virgin Mary God’s human Son, who would one day be CALLED the SON OF God.

Luke 1:45.

“And blessed is she that BELIEVE: FOR (Or BECAUSE Mary BELIEVED the SPOKEN WORD of Almighty God sent down to her FROM God by the Angel Gabriel) there shall be a PERFORMANCE of those things which were TOLD her FROM the Lord. (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)”

“AndG2532 blessedG3107 is she that believed:G4100 forG3754 there shall beG2071 a performanceG5050 of those things which were toldG2980 herG846 fromG3844 the Lord.G2962”

In Luke 11:16,17 we can see that “para” means BOTH a WORK and also as the work being a THOUGHT that was WITHIN someone’s MIND that they wanted Jesus to PERFORM. As you read these verses, please notice that they did NOT tell Jesus to WORK a miracle as a sign, BUT rather Jesus perceived their THOUGHTS that were WITHIN their minds, to try to tempt him to perform a sign so that they could believe.

Luke 11:16,17.

“And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven. (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)

17.  But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falls.”

“AndG1161 others, G2087 temptingG3985 him, soughtG2212 ofG3844 himG846 a signG4592 fromG1537 heaven.G3772”

In Romans 11:25 we again see the Greek word “para” to communicate to us as something being WITHIN the MIND.

Romans 11:25.

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;(The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.”

“ForG1063 I wouldG2309 not, G3756 brethren, G80 that yeG5209 should be ignorantG50 of thisG5124 mystery, G3466 lestG3363 ye should beG5600 wiseG5429 inG3844 your own conceits; G1438 thatG3754 blindnessG4457 inG575 partG3313 is happenedG1096 to Israel, G2474 untilG891 G3757 theG3588 fulnessG4138 of theG3588 GentilesG1484 be come in.G1525”

Now, in Romans 11:27 this Greek word “para” is translated as “IS”. In this verse, Yahweh is saying that the New Covenant IS OF ME. And in John 16:27 it would be saying that Jesus IS OF MY God.

Romans 11:27.

“For this is my covenant (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) unto them when I shall take away their sins.”

“ForG2532 thisG3778 is(G3844) myG1700 covenantG1242 unto them, G846 whenG3752 I shall take awayG851 theirG848 sins.G266”

In Galatians 1:9 the Greek word “para” communicates the means of APART from. In other words, Jesus had his ORIGIN from none other THAN Almighty God the Father himself.

Galatians 1:9.

“As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preaches any other gospel unto you than that you have received,(The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) let him be accursed.”

“AsG5613 we said before,G4280 soG2532 sayG3004 I nowG737 again, G3825 If anyG1536 man preaches any other gospelG2097 unto youG5209 thanG3844 thatG3739 ye have received, G3880 let him beG2077 accursed.G331”

Then in Galatians 3:11 I am seeing that the ORIGIN of Jesus BEGAN in the MIND'S EYE of Almighty God where God PICTURED or VIEWED everything he desired his yet future Son to be before God spoke any word of prophecy to bring his Son into existence.

Galatians 3:11.

“But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.” (The literal translation reads BESIDE the God. The word “BESIDE” also means APART from. This means that apart from God, Jesus would not exist. This Greek word “para” also means in the sight or in the view of God, as in God picturing his yet future Son in the eyes of his mind and thoughts, IMAGING him. And when God’s IMAGE, of his Son, in his mind just the way he wanted his Son to be, then God spoke forth his word OUT FROM his MOUTH from WITHIN himself to bring his Son into existence)

“ButG1161 thatG3754 no manG3762 is justifiedG1344 byG1722 the lawG3551 in the sightG3844 of God, G2316 it is evident: G1212 for, G3754 TheG3588 justG1342 shall liveG2198 byG1537 faith.G4102”

In 2 Thessalonians 3:8 we see the Greek word “para” being used to communicate OWNERSHIP or BELONGING to someone. It is translated as “ANY” meaning that the bread was a POSSESSION of someone else.

2 Thessalonians 3:8.

“Neither did we eat any man's bread (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)  for naught; but wrought with labor and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:”

“NeitherG3761 did we eatG5315 any(G3844) man'sG5100 breadG740 for nought;G1432 butG235 wroughtG2038 withG1722 labourG2873 andG2532 travailG3449 nightG3571 andG2532 day,G2250 that we might notG3361 be chargeableG1912 to anyG5100 of you:G5216

In 2 Timothy 1:3 we see the Greek word “para” to mean FROM, as in OF, or BY WAY OF.

2 Timothy 1:13.

“Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.” (OF me, or BY me, or BECAUSE OF me, or THROUGH me, or BY WAY OF me)

“Hold fastG2192 the formG5296 of soundG5198 words, G3056 whichG3739 thou hast heardG191 ofG3844 me, G1700 inG1722 faithG4102 andG2532 loveG26 whichG3588 is inG1722 ChristG5547 Jesus.G2424

In 2 Timothy 1:18 we see the Greek word “para” meaning FROM WITHIN God. I mean, I myself do not see God with a bag of mercy sitting beside him. WORKS of mercy proceed OUT FROM WITHIN us.

2 Timothy 1:18.

“The Lord grant unto him that he may find mercy of the Lord (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) in that day: and in how many things he ministered unto me at Ephesus, you know very well.”

“TheG3588 LordG2962 grantG1325 unto himG846 that he may findG2147 mercyG1656 ofG3844 the LordG2962 inG1722 thatG1565 day: G2250 andG2532 in how many thingsG3745 he ministered untoG1247 me atG1722 Ephesus, G2181 thouG4771 knowestG1097 very well.G957

Again, in James 1:17 we see the Greek word “para” communicating to us something that COMES OUT FROM WITH God.

James 1:17.

“Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.” (Or WITHIN whom comes down FROM the Father his gift FROM above. The gifts of God are WITHIN God just like the gift of Jesus was WITHIN God and came out from WITHIN God. The gifts are NOT lying around in heaven BESIDE God.)

“EveryG3956 goodG18 giftG1394 andG2532 everyG3956 perfectG5046 giftG1434 isG2076 from above,G509 and cometh downG2597 fromG575 theG3588 FatherG3962 of lights,G5457 withG3844 whomG3739 isG1762 noG3756 variableness, G3883 neitherG2228 shadowG644 of turning.G5157”

In 1 Peter 2:4 we see “para” being used as God’s CHOICE. It was God’s choice for his so great a salvation to be IN the Son of MAN, Jesus, whom he ORDAINED to be his Lord and King in the world to come. This was the WORK OF God.

1 Peter 2:4.

“To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God,(The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) and precious,” (Or chosen BY God. Our future is the RESULT OF God’s choosing, And God CHOSE for his salvation to be IN the Son of MAN, Jesus)

“ToG4314 whomG3739 coming, G4334 as unto a livingG2198 stone, G3037 disallowedG593 indeedG3303 ofG5259 men, G444 butG1161 chosenG1588 ofG3844 God, G2316 and precious, G1784”

Again, we see God’s glory, honor and praise coming FROM WITHIN God as he spoke from heaven at the baptism of the Son of man, Jesus. Certainly the word “FROM” here does NOT mean that Jesus was BESIDE God at his side up in heaven.

2 Peter 1:17.

“For he received from God  (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

“ForG1063 he receivedG2983 fromG3844 GodG2316 the FatherG3962 honourG5092 andG2532 glory,G1391 when there cameG5342 suchG5107 a voiceG5456 to himG846 fromG5259 theG3588 excellentG3169 glory,G1391 ThisG3778 isG2076 myG3450 belovedG27 Son,G5207 inG1519 whomG3739 IG1473 am well pleased.G2106

In 2 Peter we see “para” as being used to communicate something held by God in his MIND. Certainly, the day of the Lord is not WITH God at his side. But rather it is KNOWLEDGE WITHIN the mind of God.

2 Peter 3:8.

“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

“But,G1161 beloved,G27 be not ignorantG2990 G3361 of thisG5124 one thing,G1520 thatG3754 oneG3391 dayG2250 is withG3844 the LordG2962 asG5613 a thousandG5507 years, G2094 andG2532 a thousandG5507 yearsG2094 asG5613 oneG3391 day.G2250”

In Ephesians, we again see that “para” is used to communicate something WITHIN the Lord as opposed to being from beside the Lord at his side.

Ephesians 6:8.

“Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) whether he be bond or free.”

“KnowingG1492 thatG3754 whatsoeverG3739 G5100 G1437 good thingG18 any manG1538 doeth, G4160 the sameG5124 shall he receiveG2865 ofG3844 theG3588 Lord, G2962 whetherG1535 he be bondG1401 orG1535 free.G1658”

And again we see the Greek word “para” being used in 1 John 3:22 to show something that comes out FROM WITHIN God as opposed to being on the outside of God at his side.

1 John 3:22.

“And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844) because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.”

“AndG2532 whatsoeverG3739 G1437 we ask, G154 we receiveG2983 ofG3844 him, G846 becauseG3754 we keepG5083 hisG848 commandments, G1785 andG2532 doG4160 those things that are pleasingG701 in his sight.G1799 G846”

In 1 John 5:15 we again see that “para” is used to show that what we DESIRE OF God or FROM God are WITHIN us.

1 John 5:15.

“And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)”

“AndG2532 ifG1437 we knowG1492 thatG3754 he hearG191 us, G2257 whatsoeverG3739 G302 we ask, G154 we knowG1492 thatG3754 we haveG2192 theG3588 petitionsG155 thatG3739 we desiredG154 ofG3844 him.G846

Just one more verse because I am getting a cramp in my hand from typing and I do not want to keep on repeating myself. I trust that you see my point that the Greek word “PARA” does not dogmatically mean from beside God, at his side.

And I pray that you can see that Jesus had an ORIGIN which means that the Son of God had a BEGINNING. And therefore it is impossible for the doctrine of the Trinity to be a sound Biblical teaching. We know that the commandment of God came FROM WITHIN God’s THOUGHTS and DESIRES.

2 John 1:4.

“I rejoiced greatly that I found of your children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. (The same Greek word “PARA” Strong’s #3844)”

“I rejoicedG5463 greatlyG3029 thatG3754 I foundG2147 ofG1537 thyG4675 childrenG5043 walkingG4043 inG1722 truth, G225 asG2531 we have receivedG2983 a commandmentG1785 fromG3844 theG3588 Father.G3962”

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