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ENOCH IS A SLAM DUNK FOR SPHERICAL EARTHERS!
Hers is a quote from a “flat earther” website that has an article called “Enoch is a slam dunk for flat earthers! So I thought I would check it out and see what Enoch has to say when the Bible itself does not teach that the earth is flat. And I quickly saw that Enoch does NOT teach that the earth is flat EITHER! The emphasis is mine.
“Enoch's Domed World
Enoch is a slam dunk for Flat Earthers!
I know many have strong opinions about the Book of Enoch. Whatever your opinion may be on it, the fact remains, it was well known to the authors of Scripture, to the point where Jude even quoted directly from it, while under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. At the very least, it shows the MINDSET of the Hebrews (including the authors of the canonized text), confirming the belief they (and the entire Ancient Near East) had concerning the shape and nature of the Earth and its place in the cosmos: This VIEW was held well into the New Testament timeframe, as also indicated by the writings of Josephus in the 1st Century:
‘CHAPTER 1. THE CONSTITUTION OF THE WORLD AND THE DISPOSITION OF THE ELEMENTS
1. In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. But when the earth did not come into sight but was covered with thick darkness, and a wind moved upon its surface, God commanded that there should be light: and when that was made, he considered the whole mass, and separated the light and the darkness; and the name he gave to one was Night, and the other he called Day: and he named the beginning of light, and the time of rest, The Evening and The Morning, and this was indeed the first day. But Moses said it was one day; the cause of which I am able to give even now; but because I have promised to give such reasons for all things in a treatise by itself, I shall put off its exposition till that time.’
In other words, Moses put off expounding on the meaning of what God did on the first day. Please read the study called “THE TRUE MEANING OF GENESIS 1!” Let us continue with what Josephus, who is not even a Christian wrote, but still managed to see that God separate the two higher heavens from the lower heaven with a boundary separating them.
‘After this, on the second day, he placed the heaven over the whole world, and separated it from the other parts, and he determined it should stand by itself.’
In other words, God placed the HEAVENS speaking of the second heaven and the third heaven where God’s throne is located in the HEIGHT of the STARS, according to Job 12:22 and Psalm 115:16.
Job 22:12.
“Is not God in the HEIGHT of heaven? and behold the HEIGHT of the STARS, how HIGH they are!”
Psalm 115:16
“The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth has he given to the children of men.”
Then God decreed that HEAVEN, EVEN the HEAVENS that IT, the heaven, even the heavens speaking of God’s throne and all the HOSTS of heaven should STAND ALONE or be SEPARATED from the earth which God gave to the children of men. And THEN God ALSO placed as crystalline firmament around IT speaking of around the WHOLE earth. In other words, God set a BOUNDARY between the heavens above and the earth below which has its own crystalline firmament called the sky or the atmosphere that is suitable for the human race. Let us read Josephus again.
‘After this, on the second day, he placed the heaven over the whole world, and separated it from the other parts, and he determined it should stand by itself.
He ALSO placed a crystalline [firmament] round it, and put it together in a manner agreeable to the earth, and fitted it for giving moisture and rain, and for affording the advantage of dews. On the third day, he appointed the dry land to appear, with the sea itself round about it; and on the very same day, he made the plants and the seeds to spring out of the earth. On the fourth day, he adorned the heaven with the sun, the moon, and the other stars, and appointed them their motions and courses, that the vicissitudes of the seasons might be clearly signified.’
Please notice that even the non-Christian, Josephus got it right as to the LOCATION of the sun, the moon, and the STARS being set up in HEAVEN and not in the crystalline firmament around the earth which is below the heavens above the atmosphere of the earth. The crystalline firmament simply means crystal CLEAR air. There was no air pollution when God restored the earth to be inhabited again in the Genesis account of the re-creating of the earth. Let us read Josephus again and see if he says that God adorned the “crystallin firmament” with the sun, moon, and stars. Or if God adorned HEAVEN with the sun, moon, and stars.
‘On the fourth day, he adorned the heaven with the sun, the moon, and the other stars, and appointed them their motions and courses, that the vicissitudes of the seasons might be clearly signified.’
The "Early Church Fathers" also wrote quite a bit about this "crystalline firmament" but that's a topic for a whole other essay. OK. This is what really got me through. Check out how the author of 1 Enoch describes the Flood, as given through the vision/dream of Enoch prior to the Judgment occurring...
The Deluge and the Deliverance of Noah
CHAPTER 89:
2 And again I raised my eyes towards heaven and saw a lofty roof, with seven water torrents thereon, and those torrents flowed with much water into an enclosure.”
In other words, Enoch had a VISION or a DREAM and he saw a LOFTY or high and IMPOSING roof which, to me, simply means Enoch saw high dark imposing STORM clouds. Keep in mind that Enoch had never seen any rain clouds before because it had never RAINED on the earth as yet, according to Genesis 2:5 which we will read in a moment. So Enoch described what he never saw before in terms that he knew. What he saw looked like a covering that blocked the sun, the moon, and the stars as a ROOF but it was higher than any roof he had ever seen. And the roof looked dark and ominous.
Then Enoch also saw seven torrents of water therein the dream or vision as well. The seven torrents of water are simply the SEVEN SEAS of the earth, according to the Bible that you will see in a moment in both Enoch and in the Bible. Enoch saw in his vision that the sevens seas began to roar and rise as it rained for forty days and forty nights on the SURFACE of the land and the seven seas to flood the earth.
Genesis 2:5
“And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.”
Let us continue with Enoch’s account of the flood of Noah.
“3 And I saw again, and behold FOUNTAINS were opened on the SURFACE of that great enclosure, and that water began to swell and rise upon the surface, and I saw that enclosure till all its surface was covered with water.”
Now, the “flat earthers” literally interpret the LOFTY ROOF as being a crystalline DOME covering the flat earth with LITERAL WATER ABOVE the hard solid crystalline glass DOME over the earth. And then the “flat earthers” interpret these words of Enoch as meaning the FOUNTAINS of seven waters were widows IN the SURFACE of the LOFTY ROOF that God opened up and let the literal waters above the dome of the earth pour in like fountains of torrent faucets pouring down on the flat earth. BUT the “flat earthers” completely ignore the CONTEXT of the rest of Enoch.
Please notice that Enoch says that the waters began to swell and rise ON the SURFACE OF that great ENCLOSURE. Now, if so be that the “flat earthers” LITERAL interpretation of the LOFTY ROOF as being a hard solid crystalline DOME covering the earth and the seven torrents of waters being ABOVE the dome then the OUTSIDE of the dome is what Enoch is actually describing as being flooded. Read the words of Enoch again.
“3 And I saw again, and behold FOUNTAINS (Speaking of the fountains of the DEEP, as in, the SEVEN SEAS, according to the Bible ITSELF in Genesis 7:11,12) were opened ON the SURFACE OF that GREAT ENCLOSURE, and that water began to swell and rise UPON the surface, and I saw that enclosure till all ITS surface was covered with water.”
The great ENCLOSURE, according to the flat earthers” is the hard solid crystalline glass impenetrable DOME covering the earth. But, according to Enoch, the great enclosure was the dark ominous storm clouds that were pouring down torrents of rain while at the same time the SPINGS in the seven seas were braking forth with water causing the surface of the whole earth to be flooded like it was during the Luciferian flood that made the previous earth empty and void. Let us continue with Enoch.
“4 And the water, the darkness, and mist increased upon it; and as I looked at the height of that water, that water had risen above the height of that enclosure, and was streaming over that enclosure, and it stood upon the earth.”
Enoch witnessed the waters rising above the height of the clouds in the highest mountain. And the floodwaters stood on the earth until all living on the land drowned in the floodwaters except for 8 souls and all the animals in the ark.
5 And all the cattle of that enclosure were gathered together until I saw how they sank and were swallowed up and perished in that water.
6 But that vessel floated on the water, while all the oxen and elephants and camels and asses sank to the bottom with all the animals so that I could no longer see them, and they were not able to escape,(but) perished and sank into the depths.
7 And again I saw in the vision till those water torrents were removed from that high roof, and the chasms of the earth were leveled up and other abysses were opened.
8 Then the water began to run down into these, till the earth became visible; but that vessel settled on the earth, and the darkness retired and light appeared.”
In other words, God stopped the torrents of rain and the darkness of the LOFTY ROOF retired or went away and the sun shined on the earth again. And the rising oceans flowed back into the wells, springs, and subterranean waters in the earth. And the seven seas receded back to the way they were and the land dried. Let us continue with the comments of this “flat earther”. Again, the emphasis is mine.
“I'm in the process of trying to take the descriptions given in the canonized texts along with what we can read in books like Enoch and other writings contemporary with the Biblical texts - which clearly illustrate the worldview of the Biblical authors - and creating a 3D model, taking these descriptions as literally as I can. This is still very much a work in progress, the following is what I've come up with so far:”
And that is the whole problem with “flat earth” Christians. They want to always interpret the Bible LITERALLY even when the CONTEXT clearly shows that the Bible is using FIGURATIVE language.
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the “flat earth” Christian's literal interpretation of the PILLARS of the earth as being LITERAL structural pillars holding up the earth please read the study “WHAT ARE THE PILLARS O THE EARTH?”
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the “flat earth” Christian's literal interpretation of the FOUR CORNERS of the earth as being four LITERAL CORNERS please read the study “MEANING OF THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH!”
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the “flat earth” Christian's literal interpretation of the ENDS of the earth as being some LITERAL BOUNDARY caused by some LITERAL hard solid impenetrable crystalline glass DOME covering the earth please read the study “IS THE EARTH COVERED BY A DOME?”
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the “flat earth” Christian's literal interpretation of the FOUNDATION of the earth as being a LITERAL structural foundation that the earth LITERALLY sits upon please read the study “IS THE EARTH SITTING ON A FOUNDATION?”
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the “flat earth” Christian's literal interpretation of the high tree. The tree that grew into heaven as being a LITERAL tree that literally grew to the top of the dome and somehow grew through the impenetrable dome INTO heaven please read the study “WHERE IS GOD'S THRONE LOCATED IN HEAVEN?”
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the “flat earth” Christian's literal interpretation of the high mountain that Satan took Jesus up on as a LITERAL mountain that is so high that Jesus could LITERAL see all the kingdoms of the whole earth as he looked down please read the study “IS THE EARTH A SPHERE CALLED THE GLOBE?”
For the TRUE SOUND Biblical meaning of the all the other literal interpretations of the “flat earth” Christians please read ALL the studies under the heading >>>DOES THE BIBLE ITSELF TEACH THE EARTH IS FLAT?<<<
But for now, let us continue with the rest of this “flat earthers” STRUGGLES of trying to figure out all the details of how everything in the Scriptures can work out in his FLAT earth model. And to ME, this sounds like he is not completely convinced that the earth is FLAT. Here is a quote of what this “flat earther” says. Again, the emphasis is mine.
“Even though the word "earth" (erets in Hebrew) means "land," it occurred to me that if we can consider the atmosphere, clouds, oceans, and land collectively as "Earth" - meaning the whole "Earth system" - as in the globe model above, then, I suppose we could apply the same logic to the entire system depicted in my 3D model. In other words, the entire compartment depicted there could be the "Earth system." Thus, if true, then the 4 corners don't necessarily have to be part of the "circle of the Earth" below, but rather they could be part of the "roof" above the system, within the Heavenly realm, surrounding the Throne, which looks down on the Earth (land) below. If true, this then causes a departure from views such as this one:
Now I'm not being dogmatic about any of this. I fully acknowledge this is pure speculation on my part. I'm just trying to think "outside the box" and doing the best I can with the information provided to depict this stuff visually in a way consistent with the texts. This is very much still a work-in-progress, but the images below are cut-away views, looking into the interior of the Heaven-Earth System.”
In other words, the so-called LITERAL CORNERS of the earth do not necessarily have to be part of the CIRCLE of the earth but rather the four literal corners could be the ROOF of the earth which is actually the FLOOR of God’s THRONEROOM. And if that is true, then we “flat earther” must scrap all the models of the FLAT earth in the past and start over with this new model that this “flat earth” has been working on trying to get all the Scriptures to fit his model of a FLAT earth
Here is a really easy solution. The four corners are NOT four LITERAL corners. The PILLARS are NOT LITERAL structural pillars holding up the earth. The ENDS of the earth are NOT LITERAL ends of the earth. Quit interpreting EVERY verse of Scripture in the Bible as being LITERAL. The WATERS in every single verse is not ALWAYS LITERAL waters. God uses waters to speak of living beings.
Please read Revelation 17:15.
“And he said unto me, the WATERS which you saw, where the whore sits, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.”
Have you ever considered the waters being separated in Genesis 1:6 is God ORDAINING the fallen angels and Lucifer to NOT INTERFERE with the waters or the human race below the firmament. Are not the angelic beings a PEOPLE of a different race of beings and the human race of being created a litter lower than the angels? Shall the righteous human beings created in Jesus Chris JUDGE the fallen angelic beings? Have you not read about the principalities and the POWERS of the AIR in the book of Ephesians?
Ephesians 2:2.
“Wherein in time past you walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the POWER of the AIR, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience:”
Ephesians 6:12.
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in HIGH places.”
The Greek word translated as “HIGH” also means the SKY or the AIR of the earth. Satan is the god of this present world who is being CONFINED to the earth’s ATMOSPHERE. And soon, Satan will be cast DOWN from the AIR to the GROUND, according to Isaiah 14:12-15.
“How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cut DOWN to the GROUND, which did weaken the nations!
13. For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend ABOVE the HEIGHTS of the CLOUDS; I will be like the most High.
15. Yet you shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16. They that see you shall narrowly look upon you, and consider you, saying, Is this the MAN that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;”
Angels are confused as being men many times in the Bible. In fact, we are told to be on our best behavior lest we entertain angels and not be aware that they are angels.
Now, in the previous world, before God created the human race and before Lucifer rebelled to make war with God, Yahweh set or made Lucifer to be the god over the previous earth. And in that previous Luciferian age of the earth, Lucifer traveled the stars to God’s throne going back and forth from the earth to God’s throne up in heaven in the HEIGHT of the STARS. But after Lucifer was filled with pride to think that he could make WAR with God and win, God cast him out of heaven, even the heavens and BOUND him to the earth to go no higher than the atmosphere of the earth. Please read the study “WAR IN HEAVEN-REVELATION 12!”
Here are some Scripture references for WATERS being people and SEAS and FLOOD being the WICKED and Satan is certainly wicked. Are not angelic beings PEOPLE of a different RACE of beings?
Isa 57:20
“But the WICKED are like the troubled SEA, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.”
Psalm 104:35.
“Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the WICKED be NO MORE. Bless thou the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.”
Revelation 21:1.
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was NO MORE SEA.”
Please look these verses up on your own that teaches us the WATER does not always mean LITERAL water. Revelation 17:1,15; Psalm 18:4, Psalm 65:7, Psalm 93:3-4; Isaiah 8:7-8; Jeremiah 51:13,42,55.
But for now, let us continue with the article by a “flat earth” who is not sure what the WATERS ar in Genesi 1:6 so to him they must be LITERAL waters ABOVE the hard solid dome over the flat earth and just under the SQUARE floor of God’s throne LITERALLY sitting of the dome of the earth. Here is what he writes in his article “Enoch is a SLAM DUNK for FLAT earthers”. Again, the emphasis is mine.
“1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
- Genesis 1:1-2 (KJV
Have you ever noticed that water is never described as having been created?
That is because Genesis 1:2 through Genesis 1:31 is God RE-CREATING and RESTORING the BECAME void and empty by the Luciferian FLOOD during the WAR between Lucifer and God. Why do you think God created the human race a little lower and INFERION to the angelic race of beings? God is proving to all his angels that He created Lucifer PERFECT in all his ways in the day He created him by creating a NEW species of beings called the human race. And if an INFERIOR race of being can live without sin then God is just in destroying Lucifer and the fallen angels. God only needed ONE MAN to live without sin but he will reward any and all human beings with eternal life who OVERCOME sin like the Son of MAN, Jesus did through the power of the eternal Spirit dwelling in him and through FAITH in the promises in God’s written word, the Holy Bible.
It's just there immediately after the declaration that God created the heavens and the earth. In many ways, this model helps reconcile something about which I've always struggled. The word for "heaven" is "shamayim" (the KJV should read heavens as it is not a singular word), which includes the word "mayim" (water). Some scholars have suggested that "heaven" thus means something akin to "water in it." But I've always wondered how that would work. This model seems to answer that question - at least for me anyway.
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. - Genesis 1:6-8 (KJV)
In my cutaway view, note that there is water beneath the Throne of YHWH, inside an enclosed system, collectively known as Earth. This system has a "firmament" (dome) separating the water above from the water below, forming essentially a bathysphere - an enclosure of air - within which the dry land appeared in the Genesis 1 account. Being that this water surrounded Earth system is literally under the Throne of YHWH in Heaven, this shows how the water is in it.
The sound Biblical answer is that the WATERS are being divided from the WATERS is speaking of the wicked being separated from the righteous. In Genesis 1:4 God ordained that there would be light or righteousness on the earth again and that darkness or wickedness would be divided from the light of the righteous. Then God ordains the SAME thing using the analogy of the WATERS being divided in Genisis 1:6.
Let us read Genesis 1:6-9.
“And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, (Or more precisely to SEVER the WATERS) and let IT (Or let HIM) divide the waters from the waters. (Or let Jesus distinguish the PEOPLE from the PEOPLE)
7; And God made (ALEPH TAV) the firmament, (Or God made Jesus be the SEVER to dived the sheep from the goats. Jesus is coming in CLOUDS of glory to snatch up the RIGHTEOUS in him out from among the WICKED people. The LITERAL firmament is the CLOUDS that EVAPORATE the FLOOD waters) and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. (In other words, the CLOUDS in the firmament are symbolism of Jesus coming in the AIR riding on CLOUDS or ABOVE the clouds with his SAINTS being SEVERED from the wicked people UNDER the clouds or under the firmament. And the LITERAL meaning is the clouds in the SKY evaporating the FLOOD waters to expose the DRY land that ALREADY existed before the Luciferian flood)
8. And God called the firmament Heaven. (The meaning of firmament means BOTH the ARCH of the SKY during the day AND the ARCH of the SKY during the night) And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: (The land that already existed under the FLOOD waters of the Luciferian flood. In other words, the CLOUDS in the SKY FORMED by the evaporation of the water into the atmosphere surrounding the SPHERICAL earth. God BEAT the atmosphere into LAYERS to form a BARRIER for humans to go so high and NO FURTHER. And to ME, that is WHY we have not been back to the moon. Please read the study “DID WE TRULY LAND ON THE MOON?”) and it was so.
10. And God called the dry land Earth; (Matthew 6:10 “Your kingdom come. Your will be done IN earth, as it is in heaven.” The DRY land has a lot of symbolism of God protecting the righteous and at the same time punishing the wicked. This is something that I saw just now, I have not done any study on this as yet but I have been curious as to why the KJV says IN the earth as opposed to ON the earth. Just a thought) and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: (Remember that seas is symbolic for the wicked sinners) and God saw that it was good.”
I'm thinking that during the Flood, some of that upper water was drained into the "enclosure," filling it enough to cover all of the dry land. I say, "some" because over a thousand years after the Flood, King David wrote:
Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. - Psalm 148:4
Can LITERAL waters PRAISE God? The waters is again SYMBOLIC for PEOPLE and ANGELIC beings. It is the SAINTS and the faithful angels in heaven praising God and NOT LITERAL waters above the dome over the flat earth.
So, there still is water above us. Peter seems to also confirm this…
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: - 2 Peter :3:5
All that 2 Peter 3:5 means is that the MOCKERS who mock the WRATH of God at the second coming of Jesus are WILLING choosing to be ignorant that BEFORE the FLOOD of Noah the earth was OUT of the water and DURING the FLOOD the earth was IN the water. Simply KEEP verse 5 in its CONTEXT.
2 Peter 3:3-7.
“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, (Just like the days of Noah BEFORE the flood when the earth was OUT of the water not YET being OVERFLOWED with water)
4. And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5. For this they willingly are ignorant (Speaking of the MOCKED of the COMING of Jesus are willingly ignorant of The FLOOD of Noah that destroyed all the wicked), that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (Simply meaning that God did NOT created a FLOODED earth that BECAME void and empty of the wicked by God’s JUDGMENT to decree the FLOOD of Noah.)
6. Whereby the world that then WAS, (Being OUT of the water) being OVERFLOWED with water, (To be IN water) perished:
7. BUT the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
It would appear that when the "windows of heaven" were opened, only enough of the water above necessary to fill the bottom of the enclosure up to 15 cubits (about 20 feet) above the highest mountain (Gen. 7:20) was released. No more than that was needed to do the job.
He gathereth the waters of the sea together as a heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. - Psalm 33:7
It was then drained out, like a bathtub - perhaps into the "storehouses of the deep," which I've depicted as the box-like containers inside the outer walls:
The SPHERICAL earth has SUBTERRANEAN reservoirs of water. They are called the waters UNDER the earth.
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them. - 1 Samuel 2:8
You will also note in the cut-away, I have depicted the "pillars of the Earth." I have created them with essentially "shock absorbers" at the top. This would certainly allow for the Earth to be shaken up as needed (in YHWH's wrath), but yet still remain firm as a whole.
1 Then Job answered and said,
2 I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?
3 If he will contend with him, he cannot answer him one of a thousand.
4 He is wise in heart, and mighty in strength: who hath hardened himself against him, and hath prospered?
5 Which removeth the mountains, and they know not: which overturneth them in his anger.
6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
- Job 9:1-6
With the floor of Heaven and containing walls removed, we see the Earth "standing in the water and out of the water" (as Peter described) set atop pillars, firm and unmovable. Again, this is all speculation, but it is at least putting a visual together for me of the things I've been reading in the canonized and biblically-endorsed, extra-biblical texts.
One thing is certain though... the book of Enoch is certainly a slam dunk for the Enclosed World Flat Earthers.
But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. - Matthew 5:35
Heaven is My throne, and the earth a footstool of My feet. What kind of house will you build Me? Says the Lord, or what is the place of My rest? - Acts 7:49
No question about it... the ancient texts clearly describe YHWH's "footstool" as essentially a snow globe, with the still, flat, circular Earth set on pillars, under a dome, within which the sun, moon and stars were placed on Day 4 of Creation. But the question I'm now wondering about is... are there more of these types of systems out there?
In my Father's house are many mansions {Greek: "moné" = "dwelling places"}: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. - John 14:2
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. - 1 Corinthians 2:9
Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmm...."
PONDER on THIS. The major error made by all “flat earthers” is that they interpret FIGURATIVE verses as being LITERAL in meaning. They use the example of a TREE in a dream as being a LITERAL tree growing so high that it grew into heaven and was able to be SEEN by the whole world. And then they argue that ONLY on a FLAT earth could this be possible. Yes, if the tree was a LITERAL tree. But anyone TRULY seeking the TRUTH of the whole word of Almighty God that the tree in Daniel chapter 4 was NOT a LITERAL tree. Read the WHOLE chapter and ask God to reveal the TRUTH to you. Quit following men who incorrectly interpret the Scriptures.
Before I end study in God's word, I would like you to imagine a spherical dome with a ball suspended inside and a line is drawn around the spherical dome that represents the equator. Imagine all the stars on the outside of this spherical dome covering the earth. Imagine all the stars circling the spherical dome of the earth. Now, if so be the firmament of the earth is indeed SPHERICAL then you could see ALL the stars circling the earth. And on our real genuine spherical earth, we can indeed see all the visible stars in heaven. BUT we cannot see ALL the stars on the FLAT earth model. In THEORY, you can but in reality, you cannot. In other words, in theory, you could see the North Star from Australia on a flat earth. BUT in real life, you can NOT see the North Star from Australia.
Please watch these two very short two minute videos and notice that the stars rotate in the OPPOSITE direction in the southern hemiSPHERE than they do in the northern hemiSPHERE. This would be IMPOSSIBLE on the FLAT earth.
Here are links to two videos, very short vides on YouTube, just 2 minutes long showing the stars rotating from different cardinal points on EACH of the hemispheres of the earth. And as you can plainly see, the DIFFERENT stars in each hemisphere rotate in the OPPOSITE direction. And that would be IMPOSSIBLE if the earth was flat. Please take less than five minutes to watch BOTH videos.
“MOVING STARS OF THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE”
“MOVING STARS OF THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE”
Now again, on the flat earth model, the stars would ALWAYS rotate in the SAME direction no matter WHERE you are on the earth. So the rotation of the STARS rotating in OPPOSITE directions from one hemisphere to the next hemisphere proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that the earth is a SPHERE just like the Bible ITSELF teaches us when you CORRECTLY interpret the Scriptures.
Also, please consider closely that on our REAL GENUINE SPHERICAL earth that the Bible ACTUALLY teaches us, the NORTH star can NOT be seen when you cross into the southern hemiSPHERE. Here is a quote from a website called EARTH SKY that you can check out for yourself. The emphasis is mine.
“As you travel northward, Polaris climbs higher in the sky. If you go as far north as the North Pole, you’ll see Polaris directly overhead.
As you travel south, Polaris DROPS closer to the northern horizon.
If you get as far as the equator, Polaris SINKS to the horizon.
South of the equator, Polaris DROPS OUT of the SKY.”
And if you do not trust the information then you can do your own research. If you know someone who lives in the southern hemisphere that you trust then you can send them the information on the website where I got this quote and ask them if they can see the BIG DIPPER and the NORTH STAR. Or you can do the experiment yourself if you TRULY desire to know the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God that teaches us that the earth is a SPHERE that HANGS upon NOTHING and fly to Australia and see if you can see the NORTH star. You should be able to if so be the earth is flat.
So then, is NASA and SCIENCE the ones that are lying and DECEIVING Christians? OR is it the Illuminati, the hand behind the UNITED NATIONS pushing for a ONE world government that is NOT prophesied in the Bible. In other words, is the Illuminati responsible for reviving the ancient teaching of the FLAT earth in order to DECEIVE and DIVIDE Christians? Please visit these two websites so you can see with your own eyes that the EMBLEM and SEAL of the United Nations is the same image the “flat earthers” use. And after you have clicked on both links to see for yourself that the Illuminati is the hand behind the United Nations, then we will continue covering the rest of the verses used to try and prove that the earth is flat.
I want all my readers to CLOSELY consider the following questions? WHAT is the DECEPTION? Is the teaching that the earth is “SPHERE” the deceptions? OR is it the teaching that the earth is FLAT that is the deception? I want my readers to examine the FACTS real close so you can see which is the TRUE deception and WHO it is that founded this deception. Please closely consider what God led me to find while doing my OWN research on whether the earth is flat or whether the earth is a sphere. Here is a quote from another website called Art Sign Works Incorporated. I want to read the quote first and then I want you to click on the LINK and go to that website and look at the LOGO emblem SEAL of the UNITED NATIONS.
“On the right is shown a design for a carved wall plaque of the emblem/seal/crest for the United Nations (UN).”
Did you see that? It is the SAME picture of the FLAT earth that “flat earthers” use in their model of the flat earth. WHY would the UNITED NATIONS use this image of the FLAT earth as their SEAL, logo, and emblem? Now please read a quote from another website called Queens Museum and you will see WHY the United Nations uses the FLAT earth model as their SEAL. Again, please read the quote first and then click on the LINK and go to that website and view ANOTHER picture used by the UNITED NATIONS and you will see WHO is BEHIND the United Nations.
“The People’s United Nations (pUN) is an event and exhibition by Mexican artist Pedro Reyes. The event takes place on November 23-24, 2013, and the exhibition runs from November 9, 2013-March 30, 2014. Pedro Reyes: The People’s United Nations (pUN) is a playful homage to the United Nations, inspired by the fact that the global body’s General Assembly met from 1946-1950 in the building that later became the Queens Museum...This experimental gathering will test Reyes’ hypothesis that, since diplomacy has not yet solved the world’s problems, conflict-resolution techniques proven in other fields should be tried instead...Welcome to the People’s United Nations (pUN), an exhibition and performance by Pedro Reyes!...pUN is made up of over 150 citizen-delegates from the 195 member and observer states of the (real) United Nations. They’re with us today to use popular theater and other techniques to grapple with real-world problems from a personal, playful perspective.”
Now please click on the LINK and go to that website and view the PICTURE used by the UNITED NATIONS (pUN). Did you see the all-seeing EYE in the HAND that is behind the UNITED NATIONS? Most Christians know and understand that the image of the all-seeing eye is the logo and emblem of the Illuminati. So anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear can clearly see that it is the ILLUMINATI that is behind the DECEPTION of the FLAT earth and NOT some so-called deception of the earth being a SPHERE as the flat earthers CLAIM.
Please consider reading all the studies I have written on this subject on whether or not the BIBLE teaches us that the earth is FLAT or whether the earth is SPHERICAL in shape. Please click on the following link to find a list of links to all the studies showing the ERRORS of INTERPRETATION made by “flat earther” Christians to try and prove the earth is flat. >>>DOES THE BIBLE TEACH THE EARTH IS FLAT?<<< I have added several more studies since the first five-part series. And do not forget to watch the video with the Biblical Hebrew meanings and pictures of the constellations
Thanks for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
Once Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even atheists understand the REASON that Yahweh CREATED the Son of MAN, Jesus, was to have DOMINION over the work of Yahweh’s hands.
And after you understand that the REASON that Yahweh did that is to STILL His ENEMIES, Satan and the fallen angels.
Then you can understand that God made His human Son to become “a” Lord, “a” King, and “a” God, under and subject to his God and Father in order to JUDGE Satan and the fallen angels.
For a deeper understanding of this WAR that Lucifer and one third of the angels waged against the throne of Almighty God, please read the studies under the subject category called ** Q-0 Why Are We Here? Is God at WAR? **.
More studies are coming in this SHORTER Biblical Unitarian view of who Jesus is according to the WHOLE word of God.
If you have a PARTICULAR verse of Scripture that you would like to know the sound Biblical Unitarian meaning, then please email me at MarkatAMatterOfTruth@Gmail.com and let me know.
For further and more in-depth studies on this subject of Jesus being created to STILL the enemies of Yahweh, please read the studies called D-25. A NEW LOOK at JOHN 1:1, In the BEGINNING!
And also read the study called D-28. The PRE-ADAMIC LUCIFERIAN FLOOD!
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Thanks again for reading, and may God bless you richly as you continue to seek the TRUTH of the WHOLE word of Almighty God.
And to me, the truth concerning who Jesus TRULY is, according to the Bible ITSELF, is the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus.
And again, for ALL of the studies on the Biblical Unitarian view of Jesus, please click on the subject heading ** D-0 The BIBLICAL UNITARIAN VIEW of Jesus! **
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Your brother in our Lord Jesus Christ,
Brother Mark.
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