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Hey, greetings everyone. It's Naomi Wolf of Daily Clout and Outspoken and I'm here second appearance. on outspoken um the activist uh and Maui advocate Maui fires investigator Michelle Melendez. Welcome Michelle Melendez.
Aloha everyone and mahalo so much for having me again Naomi.
It's my pleasure. Um we had a very powerful reaction to your last appearance. Uh just to refresh people's memories, Miss Melendez brought up and and and kind of explored revealed very disturbing concerning anomalies regarding the Maui fires. She's she's a Hawaiian activist and she's the author of the award-winning book Great Maui Land Grab, What Caused the Maui Fire and Is Your Home Next? And um you can find it on uh great Maui landgrabook.com and it's in its third edition. And this new edition, which was why I wanted to speak with her, uh has 21 LA fire anomalies. So that's very concerning. And even since I booked this appearance with Ms. Melendez, um, of course, we now have crazy wildfires in North and South Carolina. So, um, she's a freedom activist and a wellness expert since 1996. U, she's written other best-selling books and she's really, uh, making an impact, uh, sharing with people, you know, very concerning anomalies. So, let's just dive right in. I don't think we need to recap the Maui situation. because you did such a good job describing what was anomalous about that and people can look at our video interview. But let's just jump right in. When you say 21 LA fire anomalies, you know, some of our best friends uh are in the Pacific Palisades. Um you know, it's it's such a bizarre, traumatic uh clearly attack of some kind on the American homeland. What do you mean by 21 LA fire anomalies?
Well, there's different things very similar to Maui uh with um the the wind the first of all what happened 11 months prior to the fire in LA there was a there was a heavy heavy rains 6 months prior to Maui heavy heavy rains then drought then both of them had wind had crazy crazy wind the um the the wind that uh they're they're talking about with the LA fires that happened uh that wind and the name is escaping right now but it normally happens doesn't last last for uh 17 days. It lasts for about 3 to four days. So that was an anomaly stated by and I actually have a quote um by a meteorologist who was talking about S uh the San Santa Ana wind
Santa Ana winds.
Yeah, there we go. Santa Ana winds uh senior meteorologist Ken Clark. Santa Ana winds peak for 12 to 24 hours on rare occasions can persist for a few days.
Speak up a little bit. Turn up your volume a little bit. What you're seeing is very very important. It's a little difficult to hear you.
Uh is that is that a little bit better? Also,
a little better. Just if you just raise the volume of your voice a little bit, that would
Sure. Sure. Sure. Uh yeah. So, Santa Ana winds peak for 12 to 24 hours on rare occasions can persist for a few days, but these Santa Ana winds went off and on for 17 days. Maui, the LA fire, the the LA winds, they came down from the east, they came down the mountain, which is really really rare because the highest And now they're they're both the bo the winds on both occasions. Uh very very strange like the Santa Ana winds in Los Angeles lasted for 17 days on and off for 17 days. And then also now we have the South Carolina fires.
I I got I got criticized the last time I interviewed you for interrupting you. So when I raise my hand like this, please know that I'm just trying to jump in with a a call. You're doing great. Um
I I grew up in California. Not to be devil's advocate, but the Santa,
right? They always come over the mountain, right?
Yeah. They they just not in not in Maui, but yes, I've I've lived in California, too, and I've lived in LA, Los Angeles. They don't last for 17 days. This is actually a meteorologist, uh, a senior meteorologist, Ken Clark, and he stated this, uh, actually it was on, uh, 2014, I think it is. I have it in in my book, but he literally states that these winds. They they do come, but they don't last for very very long. Also, they don't normally come in January. They normally uh are at a or are at a different time, a different time of year. The other thing with that's happening in LA, the reason why it's 21 um oddities is because the these there's so many mistakes with the um with the governor, the the Maui the LA mayor being out of town, then her leaked phone call, then she also was told uh that the LA
Sorry, Michelle, you're going a little too fast. What? That's okay. Just assume.
Oh my gosh. Okay, I can actually show you guys that.
Listen for a minute. Listen for a minute.
Please assume that no one who's listening has any idea about this story. So when you say the LA mayor being away on her trip, just fill in a little what the blanks are. You know, her leaked phone call phone call. Okay. Thank you.
Sure. Yeah. So the mayor was out of town first in and her when she was running for mayor, she said that she would not leave the country. She would only go to DC and Los Angeles. She would not leave the country. She went to Ghana. There was the first warning was January 4th uh warning about possible fires uh fire danger in Los Angeles. She left on January 4th. There was a leaked phone call uh and um it was uh James O'Keefe. He is the first one that posted it. I do have it uh in my book, but also I can show it to you guys. And it's basically her talking with somebody the day uh January 4th before she left. She left January 5th and the fire started uh January 7th. And so she literally is talking with the man saying that um uh I just want you to be safe. Um I cannot you know uh I can't really go into detail right now and I can actually show you guys the the video or the of the leaked call uh if you guys want. Then James O'Keefe was the first one to disclose that she
Michelle sorry. A leaked phone call of that kind is a very big deal. It's illegal to, you know, record um a conversation without the consent of the person being recorded in many states, if not all states. I think all states you need one party consent and some states you need both parties to consent. So, how did James O'Keeffe get that leaked phone call? Do you know?
Let me show you. Let me show you. Share screen. Uh let me show you guys what I'm talking about. And here it is. It's right here. And let me go to uh play and I'll just click on it and you guys can hear it for yourselves.
Can you hear that?
No.
Very faint.
Okay.
Oh, you know we can we instead of um struggling with the technology which I'm afraid would be difficult. Is there anything in what James O'Keefe posted that you can see that explains the source of this? Sourcing is very important for our audience.
Yes, absolutely. Let me show you uh I will come this uh turn this out and then and explain with you where I'm talking where where this is coming from and I I can you I can also give you the link and you can post it in the description and your piece people can uh can see it.
I just need to be able to explain you know right now in this podcast if we're if we're referencing a source I just need to be able to tell the audience or you tell the audience where it comes from and it's okay if you don't know. We can move on, but we can't use it as a point of evidence unless we can source it.
Sure. Sure. Well, I'll send you guys I'll send you the link and then your your folks can take a look at it for themselves. Um, it just it doesn't really say where it's come from. It says uh Karen Mayor Bass uh talking about her trip before Ghana and it has her the date January 4th. So, I'll send you the link and your people
James somehow got this leaked from someone which is pretty intense because it means someone had access to Karen Bass. his personal phone calls. Um and uh
the other thing I want to share around this is about the um the LA uh the sorry the California governor. Uh a lot of things went down with him. First he starts talking about Marshall Plan and creating LA 2.0 prior to the fires even being out. This is the same as the Hawaii governor just a very inappropriate time of talking about rebuilding. You know, the first the first uh interview that the the Hawaii governor did with the very first words out of his mouth after the fire was, "I'm looking for ways for the state to acquire the land for workforce housing." The very first interview and prior to the fires being out in Los Angeles, the California governor says, "We have a Marshall, we're working on a Marshall plan," which that word Marshall is actually a little bit disturbing to me, to create LA 2.0. And he's got a huge smile on his face. Um the other with the uh the California governor as he starts talking about again prior to the fires being out in the middle of the fires. He has a huge smile on his face. He's doing a dance with his shoulders talking about how he spoke with the Hawaii governor about uh uh uh land uh speculators and smile on his face. I mean, it's just really inappropriate when these fires are burning down people's homes. Thousands of people are getting displaced and the and the California governor has a huge smile on his face smiling about about this. The other thing with him is he
Michelle jumping in.
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Please know I love your engagement is is is uh welcomed.
Thank you. But um I just need to clarify something for our audience. Okay. So, and this is not critical Elizabeth Tucci. I'm not condescending to Michelle, I'm letting Michelle speak. She will have all the time she needs. But as a point of um information for the audience, Marshall, the way he was using it refers to the Marshall plan post World War II when America went into ruined Germany and um invested in rebuilding it. It's not Marshall M, which would be very very dis They're both disturbing, right? But um He's not saying martial like martial law. I'm just It's not like military martial. So, just letting you know. Uh and um I totally agree with you about the weird dance that this guy was doing. It was bizarre and and very very disturbing. Um and go ahead, Michelle.
The other thing that he did was he posted a tweet saying that there was disinformation about the um the uh fires. Uh the In fact, let me just pull it up and I can uh either show it to you guys or I'll just read it. But his tweet was a ridiculous lie. Gavin Newsome uh we have doubled the size of our firefighting army. He says built the world's largest aerial fire fleet firefighting fleet and increase the forest management tenfold since taking office. And that's not true. They actually cut the fire budget.
Wow.
By hund00 million uh before before the lethal California fires. Uh I actually also have the entire budget.
Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.
That's fine. I know you're very passionate about your subject as you should be. Did they cut the budget by $und00 million shortly before the fires or like in 10 years before, five years?
No, it was shortly. It was shortly before. And uh and let me show you guys the budget. Uh the budget they actually it was really strange because this is for this. First of all, this is his tweet that he says and then Fox News says that no, they cut the fire budget by hundred million dollars months before the lethal California fire. And then I do want to share the budget and it's it's kind of small but let me uh I'll do it I'll try to do a little bit bigger. The police this is the city of of LA uh budget for 24 to 20 2024 to 2025 department operational budget and they increased the police by $126 million. It was the most they increased and they lowered the fire department by 17.6 million. It's the second uh to the last at the bottom of that.
Yeah. We don't see your screen, I'm afraid.
Oh, okay. Well, that's those were the numbers and I can I can share that that I'll share that uh that clip with you as well.
You know, a really good practice for our audience is just say where the source is from. You know, if it says Fox News, say that. If it says, you know, LAPD, say that. Just mention the source.
This is the city of Los Angeles uh budget department. Yeah.
Very solid source. Okay, great. Go ahead, please.
And then the other thing is that they uh the LA mayor and the and the Maui governor. So the LA mayor in 2023 and 2024, she actually prioritized homeless homeless uh homelessness homeless she in the budget, sorry, in the budget. And let me just read it for you guys. 2023 to 2024, the fire department budget was 833 million and that was roughly 65% of the homeless budget, which was 1.3 billion. And what's really interesting about that is that the Hawaii governor suspended 20 laws. He made his own emergency. He did an emergency proclamation on homelessness in Hawaii even though there wasn't uh 911 calls for homeless people. Morgs weren't built made with, you know, tons of more homeless people. He literally suspended 20 laws, met with over 200 people for six months. So, why are they both prioritiz prioritizing homelessness? Now, what's happening? Homelessness. How many thousands of people in LA are homeless? And the the uh Maui fire. Just so you guys know, they're they are still having issues. They're not letting people rebuild. Um on the coast, there's been three building permits in Lahina. Most uh the most building permits are being being issued outside Lahina. Uh people are really struggling even after what is it 17 18 months after the fire in Maui. Uh they're still not letting people giving people permits to build. It took over a year for the first permit to be allowed in in Lahina. So, uh, the other thing
own land.
These are people's own land. I just want to jump in and thank you, Michelle, because your report on how people were not being allowed through barriers to get back in to their own land um, and kind of military or quasi military or, you know, state kind of troopers as I recall preventing them from having access. It led me to tell my friend who lives in Pacific Palisades that, you know, this could well happen to her home and as a result her her husband never left like I don't you know I was worried about him too but he he literally stayed and and their home is fine but it it helped her and no doubt many people who follow you know your work and and this interview it helped a lot of people in LA no doubt to um fear the worst and uh and be prepared for what actually happened which was the the exact same thing there was a barricade and I posted this on my ex uh our friend took a picture of it. Literally a barricade around people's burntout plots in Pacific Palestines. They weren't letting the people back in even to get their own passports or credit cards, you know, or sip through the rubble, find family photographs. Exactly the same scenario. Go ahead, please.
Yeah. Well, the other thing too is you want to look at I I couldn't believe it when I was watching this through through LA. This um I think it was Fox News that showed the devastation of of Palisades and all the trees are there. All the shrubs are there. The leaves on the trees are there. And so I have about three there's about three or four different pictures of LA with the houses disintegrated into white ash. No fridge, no stove, no toilet, but yet all the trees are still still up. So what that means when you have white ash, you have really really hot fire. Plus the number of fires that that were that happened in Los Angeles, three fires happening at the exact same time. I just prior to this interview, I just got off the phone with Captain Matt Denin, 33-year firefighter and retired captain. He literally and I I I we talked about South Carolina. He said, Michelle, he says, "When you're looking at the fire," he goes, "Look at how look at how many." He's like, "In South Carolina, there's almost 200. There's like 175 or or or more right now." He's like, "You don't have that's that's not climate change. Climate change doesn't just start a fire." He's like, "You need to have something that starts ignites that fire." And in in in Los Angeles, three fires happened the exact same time. Uh, and the the way that it burned was so so hot that it left white ash. It disintegrated homes, but it left the trees. And people ask why. And I asked an arborist about that. And he said because the chemistry of the fire is not is is a microwave chemistry. And the chemistry of these fires doesn't recognize organic material. This is why the the trees are not burning. In my book, there's people that you see that are not burned from the outside in. You can actually see hair. You actually see a dog with his nose and his ears and his paw pads. That doesn't happen in a regular fire because this or this this chemistry of this fire is different. There is a US patent, you guys, for a microwave frequency uh laser. And I know people are going, "Oh, lasers." There's a patent, a US patent. And I can actually read it to you. Uh US patent that has this this um that that provides this uh has this technology and it's called a microwave transmission using lasergenerated plasma being wave guide that uses a titanium sapphire infrared laser and produces a thin ionizing beam. Then people go okay well you know direct energy weapons you guys they've had direct energy weapons system acquisition act of 2016 they the uh the department of defense actually was afraid they've been working on direct energy weapons since prior to the 60s because they they literally state in this act in 2016 act the department direct energy weapons systems acquisition act of congress the depart defense department states that since the 1960s they have spent over $6 billion dollar since the 60s but they are afraid they cannot bring the direct energy weapons program to full fruition so the United States Congress took it over. You can look it up. Direct Energy Weapons Acquisition Act of 2016. It will come up. And the other thing people really need to know is that we have had weather modification. Weather modification since the late 1800s. And the number one, the very first patent for weather modification was in 1891 to produce rain. And they had an operation Popeye uh uh operation for the Vietnam War. And in 1967 to 1972. So they to produce rain for in um in uh Cambodia. So uh I'm sorry, Vietnam on the Ho Chi Man Trail. So if they wanted these fires out, they could have them out like that in moments because they can they they did 2600 cloud seeding flights between 1967 and 1972 over Vietnam to produce rain. The soldiers called it Operation Mud. And if they wanted these fires out, they could have them out instantly.
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Um I don't know if the huge number of trolls that we're getting in the comments are are human or bots. Um but if you're human, my husband always says, "Don't respond to the trolls." I I guess I just want to say like a little bit of a a detour or a rant. I don't need to do this, you know? I don't need to do this. I don't need to cover these issues. I don't need to do real reporting of subjects that take on the most powerful interests on earth. I also happen to be physically disabled right now and in constant pain and literally sitting here being in pain doing my public service, listening to Michelle Melendez who is also doing her public service and you know making my platform available for an incred incredibly important message that could and I would say has saved a lot of lives really is too important a job to be messed with, demeaned, and disrupted by, if you're human, small-minded humans who have literally nothing to do but harass me and by extension Michelle Melendez. Um, I don't know why it my interviews with Michelle Melendez bring out um these awful people then get the f***. Oh, lady, we don't want you. We just want Michelle. Um, someone else is criticizing my appearance. Uh, someone Oh, yeah. No, it's all
my goodness, you guys. Honestly, I reached out to Naomi because she her her platform is really important and I reached out to her to one say thank you for having me on her show and also to ask if I could be on again because of this information. And she's vital to I I hate to say our fight, but our fight for freedom. She's really, really vital to that. So, if you are a human being, uh, and you know, and you want your freedom, one, thanks for following her. And, you know, be pono. We call it pono. Be be kind. Be aloha because we're all in this together. And you know what? Nobody is getting out of this. If you your your home may not be destroyed, but there's they're coming through through uh the uh general plans to your home to take your property and who they are are the um the the I'm I'm I'm just going to say it. The elite bankers who literally run the um or have the most stock, I should say, in the renewable energy companies and the electric companies. Uh that's who's doing this, you guys. These these people, they've been running the world for a very long time. In my research, they've taken over this country. But Naomi is a is a is a light warrior of truth. So, and and you know what? You guys got to be more aloha than that because you got to give it to her. She's She's put out information. I found her and I was like, "Oh my gosh, I really want to be on her platform."
Thank you.
I kept calling her, kept writing her, sent her my book, and was just so grateful to to have a voice.
We could I appreciate your kind words. You We can go back to your subject. I appreciate that that defense. Um, and I just I I really appreciate it because even people who are blessed with a large platform like mine, we're human, you know, and and people really need to I and I promise I'll stop talking about this in a minute, but people really need at a time like this to think about whether they want independent platforms to exist because it is not easy to run a platform that's not funded by pharma and you know not now like even you know a spokes a mouthpiece for for the new administration as much as many of us may like it. Um and uh yeah just give some thought to that that the people that trolling or attacking or harassing are humans and they have their own problems. And you know, if you want to take over and interview Michelle Melendez, by all means, you know, hop right here, M. Kurville, and we'll put you on camera and we'll see how your day is going. And, you know, you can bring yourself to the public and um, you know, be be a grown-up and step into the ring, you know, but otherwise, please give me and Michelle has the courtesy of focusing on her subject. And if you don't like me, you can find Michelle, no doubt, on other platforms. We will send you to her website. This is my platform. This is my podcast, and I'm in charge of it. So, please go elsewhere. Um, if you're not willing to be civil, that doesn't mean you can't raise objections, but you have to be exactly just as kind and civil as I would be to you and as Michelle would be. Now, let's go back of of the many disturbing things you just shared, Michelle. Um, one of the striking things is you said that in LA toilets and refrigerators were white dust but organic material like trees was untouched and an arborist to whom you spoke and I really appreciate that good citizen journalism now journalism really um you know checking with an arborist what what h what's going on here
that's really important information u because many people have looked at those images of the trees standing and the structures and the you know, as you say, the the appliances which are metal, you know, and porcelain just completely gone powder and they're like, "What? How is this possible?" So, you've just you I'm not saying that's the explanation because, you know, we're not at the end of the investigation, but that's certainly an explanation. If if an arborist says that it's a microwave based technology, that kind of makes sense to me the way that things in microwave ovens don't really burn from the outside in. They kind of hollow out. They kind of
Yeah.
Exactly.
And
Exactly. And then if you put metal in a microwave, it sparks up. I mean, this is why uh these engine blocks are melted out, these rims are melted out, glass is melted. You glass burns or melts. Uh I believe it's 24 to 2500 degrees. And a regular wildfire is between 12 and,400 degrees. So, you know, these these cars uh I even my my friend who's the uh firefighter, he says the cars don't look like this in a regular wild wildfire. Plus, the regular
Can you say more about that? What What um what do cars look like in a regular
wild? The cars the the glass is not melted. The glass is not melted out. The rims, the aluminum rims are not melted out. The entire car isn't just destroyed. Uh that these homes, if this was a regular wildfire, these homes would have the foundation of the fridge, the stove, uh toilets, and they would be black charred. They would charred.
We all know that. I mean, like, go back in our mental memory. Houses that have burnt down are full of burned structures, charred structures, and they're black. They're blackened. They're not powdery dust like, dare I say it, the World Trade Centers, you know, but that's another subject. Um, all right. Well, that explains a lot. The other thing I want to ask, if you don't mind going into this a little bit before you go on to your other points, I know you've got a lot of them. One thing that I kept asking during the during the LA fires is where are the bodies? Where are the bodies? I don't you know hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of of um homes were burned, right? And there is no way that everyone was out shopping in another part of town. There were old people, there were nannies, there were kids, there were babies, there were disabled people surely. And the last death toll I saw was 28. That was a while ago, but I don't think it's I I don't think I've seen anything larger than that. Hey everyone, Naomi Wolf here. How are you doing with your New Year's resolutions? January is here. My start was pretty easy. Uh my resolution was to focus on my well-being. And we all know that the foundation of well-being is a good night's sleep. So, if I could do just one thing to improve my sleep and overall well-being, it is taking the number one mineral for sleep, which also helps me personally on so many levels. Yes, I am talking about magnesium. Actually, I am talking about the magnesium breakthrough by bio optimizers. It's seven different forms of magnesium in this supplement which are involved in over 600 different biochemical reactions in the body. Pretty much every function in your body is upgraded when you do take magnesium from the quality of your sleep for your brain function, metabolism to your stress levels. And even if your 2025 resolution is not to focus, on your health as mine is. Um, how are you really going to be able to achieve all your goals without quality sleep and stress management support? It's hard to do that. So, please do yourself a favor and make magnesium breakthrough part of your daily routine this year so you can get the vitality that you need to conquer your dreams. Go to byoptimizers.com/dailyclout now and enter promo code daily clout to get 10% % off of any order. And if you subscribe, not only will you get amazing discounts and free gifts, you will make sure that your monthly supply is guaranteed. Again, that's by optimizers.com/dailyclout promo code daily clout. Take care. So, that's not possible. There must be hundreds of bodies. That's correct. That's the same thing I remember. Sorry, I'm almost done. The thing I remember you saying when we last spoke about Maui is that there were many many many many people missing and children missing and I believe there must be many many many people missing in LA and one thing that didn't happen talk about an anomaly is there was no municipal list of the missing and the dead that that was in real time or even afterwards right so did you did any of your sources say anything about where are the bodies
no I haven't seen any anything about the LA bodies what I know about what happened with Maui is that the people who came to uh pick up the bodies had to sign
excuse me a non-disclosure which is really really very totally it's like very uncommon very uncommon uh these uh boat captains uh from a friends who are locals who I stay with in Maui they have two boat captains one signed a non-disclosure he picked up a he says he picked up 180 bodies this is secondhand knowledge but he said he picked up 180 bodies the other boat captain said he picked up over 200. Neither one of them are coming forward. Then I have a friend who works for national security who was contacted uh she's actually a personal friend of mine. She said she was contacted by a friend of hers who also was asked to go to Maui to pick up the bodies in the water and he said he had to sign a non-disclosure and he was picking up bodies that were in a swimming position. Frozen in a swimming position. This means something hit them. Uh just like the dog that you'll see uh if you get my book, you'll see this dog run. It's like frozen running. It's like running, but it's like stopped. And an animal will not run out in the middle of a of a fire. It will hide. It will hide under something and it'll crouch down. This this dog, you can literally see its paws going like running straight paws. We have a toad that is jumping and it's in a frozen position. In a frozen position, hollowed from the inside out. Just like you said, when you put something in a microwave, it hollows out. It heats it. that from the uh from the inside out, but that's not it's not normal. And I was asking I was wondering that same thing too, Naomi. I was like, who who's got somebody's got pictures of these bodies because I the pictures I have in my book from the Maui bodies, they were from locals that that they were the very next day uh within hours of of the fire being over. Somebody's got these pictures. I would I would assume because I haven't seen any. And you're absolutely right. Where's the count? Where's the body count? There's no way that's 2800 dead or I'm sorry, 28 dead. That's more like 2,800 because that's that's impossible. Just like with Maui, it's impossible. 103 bodies uh that there's just no way.
And let me throw in another weird macob detail. When I was watching coverage early on of the LA fires, I believe it was Fox News had a clip showing rubble of a house and it was a skeleton, like a white like Halloween skeleton it seemed to be and they were like oh we didn't mean to show that and I was like that is completely bogus that is that you know a skeleton a white skeleton only exists after a body has you know decomposed for a long time people who are burned to a char do not look like a white skeleton I think that was completely fake by the way um I mean unless a microwave technology kind of strips flesh and leaves white bone, which seems that anything's possible. Does it? Is that
Well, the one of the bodies that I have a picture of the feet are gone. Like the body is literally face down on the ground. You see the hair, you see the the the the braids. You can see the braids of the hair. You see the fingers uh the body's charred except for the feet. The feet are white. Um uh they're they're they're kind of a skeleton. The feet are gone. The feet are gone. They're dissolved. I you can't see them, but There is a white a white skeleton and I think it has something to do with the ground
and I wish I would have taken a a picture of this one uh in Maui there was fire that was on the ground that looked like it was dancing. It was really really weird. And at the time I didn't I didn't do a screenshot of it and now I can't find it. That but the but that victim something's up with their feet. Their feet are gone. There's a white um uh bone from their calf and then the victim above them which Again, you'll see in the book the victim above them. Same thing. The feet are gone. You see a a skele just a a bone, a white bone, and then you see the charred body. So, it's very, you know, a Navy Seal friend of mine said he's never seen pictures like the ones I have. He's been wanting and hoping that somebody would find these pictures. And I know somebody in LA's got got something. Uh I don't have the bodies in LA, but I do have the ones in Maui.
Wow. Well, we're getting some really uh really interesting comments. Lots of reaction in the uh in the feed. Um Stan Plasta says, "Paradise vloggers estimated 50,000 dead or missing in Maui." Oh, comma. In Maui, probably 4,000 dead. What would you say to that, Michelle?
Oh, uh, so, okay, I see it. Paradise vloggers estimated 50,000 dead missing. Yeah, that's the other thing about Paradise, too. I have in the book the picture of of the of the tree with with in paradise. Those are even worse. Those are even worse than LA and Maui because it just shows absolute trees and the the the homes are white ash with all these white or these pine trees right next to them completely intact. 4,000 people dead pro more probably because here's what Ellie Cochran who's the state representative of Lahina. She survived the fire. She grew up in in Lahina. I I've interviewed her numerous times. She said there's no way it's 103 dead. She said people in the water if they held on to anything, they would have been blown out to sea. Uh we h I have heard of people that washed up on on Lahina or I'm sorry, Lai, which is this uh island. It's right across from from Lahina on Maui. Uh I have not had anybody come forward with that information. I've heard it from a from different people, but I always want to make sure I get directly from the source, so I haven't put that information in. But here's the other thing with the children. 3,000 children were were home. The the school was out. The school was out and there was 30,000 000 children that were s registered in the Lahina Luna School District. Two weeks after the fire, there was about 448 children that reenrolled in the Lahina Luna School District and a little bit over I think it was about 434 that enrolled in private school. And there was 2,25 children that didn't enroll in school. So where where are they?
Where are they? Where are they? So that goes to a comment we've got. Well, thank you Elizabeth Ti. Apologize. She was out of line. I accept your apology. I appreciate it. Uh, Dawn Patrol says to you, "Does Lahina still have buses of children missing?" And I think you just answered that question, right?
Yeah. No, no, no. I I know what you're talking about, the buses. Um, I I did I did I I looked into that a little bit. I could not verify it, but I I'm not saying it didn't happen because here on the islands, we do have a a big time missing children uh uh issue here. Big time. Uh but uh but I couldn't find anything. I couldn't verify anything. Uh, but I do know what you're talking about. Uh, again, I couldn't verify that.
But again, in a normal fire, even if, god forbid, you know, thousands of children were burned to death, there would be dental records. There would be remains. There would be something.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. We uh we know that we believe that whole families burned alive. Ellie Cochran, she was again the state representative. She said that a family of 10 people who who was two blocks from where her house a family of 10 all died together in one house. We also there was also suicides of parents committing suicide that was not in the media that was not being discussed in the media. I I can't um find the information now but during the time of it uh they were talking about parents literally committing suicide. A father and a mother who had two children two their children died their children died. So people that's the other thing that people are saying is why why aren't their parents screaming at the rooftops? We We think we think that they died together,
right?
But but again, I mean, I counted the crosses uh at the memorial. There was 150 crosses that I that I counted, 103 deaths. But here's the other thing, too. A lot of undocumented workers lived in Lahina who worked at the uh hotels. So, they were undocumented. And the only people that were literally counted were people that they had a first and last name of the missing person and the first and last name of the person who's giving the information. And then we have to remember that the coroner who signed the death certificate was John Pelier, Chief John Pelliter, who was the same uh uh police chief in the Las Vegas Mandalay Bay shooting that left a lot of questions unanswered as well,
right? Wow. Unbelievable. And used to be disgusted tries to stay amused. Um I producer Brian O'Shea, we're really getting some disgusting comments. Can you go ahead and hide the the, you know, x-rated vulgar ones. Um, let's see. The cover up of all the dead Hawaiian kids. Can you believe it? We're talking about dead and missing Hawaiian children and and people are are still trolling us. Um, the cover up of all the dead Hawaiian kids is remarkable. I can't believe they were able to keep that under wraps. All my Hawaiian friends are distraught and can't believe it. Um,
and the thing too is you have to know that the governor, the Hawaii governor, when he was first interviewed, he was asked about the children and he said we have told our team to expect a lot of children uh deaths and then there were only three. There were only three and uh one lady she she found her son completely charred and intact holding his dog and she said that she believes God left him that way so that she would recognize him. She recognized
caught up. That's impossible. That's impossible in a regular fire. So, uh you're not going to see you're not going to recognize a human body.
This is so traumatizing. Um, and Don Patrol says Sheriff Pelier is obviously compromised. Covered up the Manderlay operation as well. I don't know what that is. Do you know what that is, Michelle?
Yeah, the Mandandalay Bay shooting. Uh, they said there was one shooter that was people were running in all different directions and they said every time they ran in a certain direction there was there was another shooting in that area. He uh there was a lot of questions left unanswered in that attack. That was that was another attack uh false flag I believe. But this he you have to understand is that they actually had to change laws in order for ch for pelleter to become the Maui police chief. There was there was actually a law that said you had to be a uh a resident of Maui for a year in order to be the Maui police chief and they actually changed that law. I believe it was six months prior to Chief Peliter coming in. Um so yeah, lots of questions with with this man as well as he he was blocking the roads for people to get out. And at first he denied it. At first he denied it and then he said, "Yes, we had to block them because the telephone poles were down." And in a a picture with the blocked roads and the people uh all lined up behind the the the uh police cars are standing telephone poles. There's nothing that was down. So he he is he's a complete uh he's he li he's very much a liar and and Okay. Well, let's We only have unfortunately 10 more minutes and there's so much to say. Um Kathy Gary rightly says, "What if the children were kidnapped? Where's Oprah?" Yeah, Oprah is another story. She uh she painted her house blue prior. And there's a thing with blue, you guys. And let me just say that that microwave and everybody's I I did a video and and people are like saying, "Don't say blue things don't burn because people are going to think you're crazy." But the thing is, here's the thing. Blue things didn't burn. This guy pulled a blue paper ticket paper out of the white ash and white ash was falling off of the off of the paper. He pulled six different uh Eric West of Hawaii real estate pulled six t-shirts, cotton t-shirts out of the white ash, not one singe mark, not one hole. Uh there was um my friend who actually lost her house, her stove charred on the outside, glass melted, the warped the this the uh racks were warped. But inside her stove, bright shiny blue, royal, royal blue color, completely beautiful. Why is because this patent that I told you about that has a microwave free uh laser has uses a titanium sapphire. Sapphire is the color blue and the blue is the same wavelength as the color. So it actually and this is the I actually quote different scientists, two different scientists in my book. I quote them about talking about this how the color blue repels the the microwave frequency. It doesn't absorb the energy. It doesn't absorb it. So, it doesn't burn. In Los Angeles, two Mazda Miatas, exact same type of car. One on one side of the street completely. The engine block is is gone. And this is this picture is in my book. The engine block is gone. It's destroyed. The glass is melted out. Across the street, the same exact car blue, completely intact. You It looks like you can drive it away. as well as a blue uh trash can leaning on it. Nothing's wrong with it. No, nothing's melted. Nothing. So, it is a
amazing. Um, you know, I'll I'll speak to that in just a minute. We have a little uh technical issue going on. Uh Brian, I don't know if you can hear me, but you've got to block or report Sushi Gong, Sushi Gang, please, because I'm literally being sexually harassed while we're videotaping. And I don't appreciate it. If you were in the room, you you wouldn't do this to me. You know, it's
all
she's trolling all MAGA or Okay.
How do we block her?
You can't really.
Can you hear what Brian is saying? Brian's trolling her back.
And that's what's going to happen, too, because we're on over the target. We're over the target. Like, I got one of my videos taken. off of YouTube. Uh because we're just over right over the target. So maybe one will date her.
All right. Brian is saying he's got six brothers. Maybe one will date her and it'll make her feel better. Um
and we don't even know if that's a woman. That could be that could be a guy, you know.
It could be AI, sweetheart. Let's move on. Let's move on. Um glad you're covering this. These are very strange times. Please ignore the trolls. You know, I will. But I like my nerves are this frayed and we're talking about something so important and this I just want to say this is what women live with like we are talking about life and death and people are talking about my breasts and saying that Naomi Klein and I should make a p*** video right so I'm just highlighting this and speaking to it because women live with this every day of their lives and and it it destroys it destroys it destroys resources for the whole community because this is a podcast for the whole community. So, um, Brian, will you just kind of make an appearance so that you know we I don't there's something we can do with Sushi Gong, Sushi Gang because I I don't know how to silence it. Um,
you can't really because it's it's coming through your YouTube. Can you hear me?
Yeah, I hear you.
It's coming through your YouTube and it's Sushi Gang Sushi whatever. It's, you know, probably part of the 50 Cent Army. They They're like in prison in China and they get paid like 50 cents a tweet. You okay block them from your channel.
Well, all right. Thank you for that. Uh, so I will try to ignore
to be fair, she's probably 13 years old and stupid, so I think there's not a lot you can do.
All right, moving right along. We're not going to troll back, darling. But um
Oh, I'll troll back.
Nice to meet you, by the way, guys.
This is my husband.
Nice to meet you. Aloha.
Also, also just just to put it out there, he's also my bodyguard and my security consultant.
Nice.
And I when I was getting
D that's ineffective against trolls online.
It's not effective against but I just want a little, you know, I want to put a little of your mystique out there so they know they can't harass.
Oh, no. Well, I could put a shot through their eyes at 3 meters. I mean, if they show up here, that's fine.
All right, let's go back. Thank you, sweetheart. You can sign off now. And um Thank you. And uh so let's see. I think so this is really important. I'm sure you all have a lot to say about this. Rick, lots of numbers says, "I think these quote wildfires are more like demolition projects." Now, who makes all the money from the cleanup and rebuilding? So, let's move like through your last points about the LA fires and speak to this. I'm sure this is part of your remaining point.
You're you're absolutely right about that. You have to look at the contracts, but most importantly, every single one, Maui, LA, uh, Myrtle Beach, all set to be smart cities. And and uh that's when you look at that, you look at who gains who gains from this. The renewable energy companies and the um the electric companies uh they want us they need us to believe in climate change. You guys, they need us to believe in climate change. And if you go to world declaration, world declaration, I think it's.org or just put in world declaration in the URL and uh what'll pop up is this. Uh it's a world declaration that was signed by 1,977 uh credentialed scientists from around the world stating that there's no climate danger. There's climate change happening all the time. They had to change global warming into climate change because the earth is actually cooling now. And this is not this is by
I know I know it's crazy because uh Dr. David Dilly who has 50 years he's a 50-year meteorologist he uh for the US Navy huge credentials talked about the Maleovich cycle stating that the Earth was closer to the sun 8,000 years ago where in cooling phase, but they they couldn't just say, "Oh, now we're cooling." And uh you know the also the documentary by Al Gore and Inconvenient Truth, there was a teacher in um in uh in England that actually sued because they were trying to force him to show that documentary to his students and he said this is not true. A a judge in um in Great Britain actually found nine different errors errors problems with that documentary because it's not true and we they need us to believe in climate change. They need to take out all of these these places for uh to to rebuild these renewable energy. Uh and who owns these renewal who who has the most stake? Black Rockck and Vanguard. Who owns most of the stock in Black Rockck and Vanguard? These uh banking elite families that run this country. And they've run this country since the Civil War. Uh so this is all what what's going down. And that's why I always tell people have a to-go bag in your car, food, supplies, and then g tell your family give them uh an emergency uh action plan. If anything happens, we're going to meet here. So, that's a really really good idea for because I don't know how to how how we're going to stop this right now other than just your podcast and getting the word out,
right? Wow. Um well, I'm just validating what you just said. Uh I was actually just talking to Brian about this this morning in relation to Ukraine and his view is that um Black Rockck went in prior to the Ukraine war. kind of facilitated the war and they already have plans for uh the rare earth uh minerals underneath what used to be cities, villages, homes, schools, etc. So they have to like
destroy and you know then you think about Gaza. But
yeah,
so so back to the 15minute cities, Maui, LA, and now let's talk about the Carolinas. I mean I'm really scared. I'm here in Brooklyn. I assume New York is on the list to be a 15-minute city. So, are you saying And Myrtle Beach is on the list to be a 15-minute city. Good god.
Yep. Myrtle Beach, Greenville, uh, and Columbia, South Carolina.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah. Yeah. And so, what's also what So, these are the poster children for these renewable uh renewable I'm sorry, smart cities. But what is also happening is your general plan because I live on the Big Island and our general plan 2045 has smart city 15inute city um uh uh uh not technology but in our general plan they they want to make most of Big Island conservation and then na nature they want to take people out.
Yes. It's disgusting what they we've been trying to fight this for eight months. So these attacks when they are attacks you guys on the American people but there is also an attack coming through your general plan. So highly recommend that you look at your general plan. All you got to do is put in the name of your city and put general plan afterwards. and then open up the PDF, click edit, and put in clustered housing. Put in acquire acquisition because one of the things in our general plan, it states that if you're if you own property and you go to the planning department to have anything changed or added, they're going to inventory your property for possible acquisition. That's literally stated in our general plan. So, it's this is what's coming. It's people can they they can look and go, "Oh, that that doesn't apply to me." It yeah, it does apply to you and it's going to come through your general plan.
Wow. Well, that's very good advice. Um, we only have a few minutes left. Are there any of your other critical points that you want to raise and I have to ask, are you seeing any of the same anomalies? I know it's early days yet. The fire is still raging in the Carolinas that you saw in LA and in Maui. Michelle,
yes, it's it's the weather. It's the weather. They have been messing with our weather, you guys, for a very long time. They can create wind. They uh there's actually a and they can also move tornadoes. It's like, how in the world does a category 4 hurricane go inland and sit right on top of Asheville, like South Car uh South Carolina? How does that happen? That doesn't happen normal. That's not normal. There's actually a US patent. You can look it up. Look up a patent that says tornado control device and you will see it. It sits right there. It's right in our face. They can control the weather. They can so the weather, the uh the uh the drought, uh the Also the fact that um the the the rain it was like so much rain prior months prior and that creates more vegetation than a drought which creates kindling, you know. But it's super Yeah, that's the whole point. That's the whole point.
Gosh. So you're suggesting that the flooding in the Carolas was anticipatory of the wildfires, anticipatory of the 15-minute cities. Is that
Absolutely. One? Yes. 100%. % they have this technology they they have if you look up just look up weather modification patents look that up in your URL and you will see a ton a there there's going to be a there's a free patent
I've looked into it you're absolutely right there is I mean this particular technology that dissolves structures I I I don't know what that is yet I know that actually Brian am I allowed to say this honey you describe in the military a a test of a device, a laser that kind of evaporated animals. Uh, you know, and and I'm sure, well, directed energy weapons, we know about that. Um, okay, just for the record, I'm not a CIA asset and I'm not being blackmailed. I just need to say that because people just make things up. Um, so
I'll put my also I'll put my um Great Maui Land Grab book in into the website, you guys. in uh landgrabook.com. That's that's the website for that. And if you put in truth in the coupon code,
you'll get 10% off. And what I love about what the most part I love about my book is that it shares who owns America. Yeah.
So people care, okay, what happened with Maui? But then who owns America and why is this happening? And this is what all Americans need to know that we do not live in the land of the free, home of the brave. This is not the United of America. This is a United States corporation funded and controlled by the US bankers since the Civil War because they funded both sides of the war. And then after that, the country was bankrupt and the country literally was collateralized and given to the US bankers. Then in 1913, the the Federal Reserve, which is not part of the government, it's actually owned by these bankers. Um all of it, you guys. Uh so
if you get my book, share it. Get it. Share it because people who uh the normies that I think that what'll happen is they'll want to know what happened with Maui and they'll start to open up and crack the spell because I think people are under a spell and hypnotized especially with that television and the media and all of that. There's actually a frequency that creates a hypn hypno uh system in the brain that that changes people's um opens people up to a hypn hypno uh suggestion
suggestion. Yes, I'm sure you're right. And that could be a whole new book. Just before you go, Kathy Barriott says Greenville shocked emoji. That's me and I'm disturbed too. Um, Phil Hendrickson says they're doing biological warfare right now. Chemtrail spreading viruses everywhere. Fake fog. Uh, Elizabeth Kerr, oh no, I'm sorry. Elizabeth Tucci said um fake uh snow and
and and yeah, we're definitely seeing very very bizarre weather that we've never seen before. And these catastrophic fires. Just before you go, what can people do? I mean, you've, you know, you've shared such a sobering, disturbing set of facts, very persuasive. How do, you know, I'm thinking about my home upstate or just being here in Brooklyn. How do we protect ourselves?
It's, you know what, it's it's by creating a a a stronger relationship or a relationship with your higher power. Because this is another thing, too. These I feel these are satanic demons. I think the best thing the devil did was to have people believe he does not exist. But these there is a frequency in our bodies and it's connected especially being a woman you have an intuition that's that is connected to a higher divine infinite frequency of of truth and of love. This empty space isn't empty. This is a frequency field and our our hearts are connected to a higher power. So it's connecting to that higher power and asking what is going to uh keep me and my family safe? What do I need to do? And then follow your guided intuition. We all need to go back to a create a relationship with a higher power. I don't care if you call it God or Jesus or whatever. I call it infinite creator of source of love. Uh because it's beating my heart and breathing my body. And I follow that guided intuition. That guided intuition wrote this book. I was up till midnight. I was up at 3:00 a.m. And I just couldn't stop. And I kept I knew what was next. And that wasn't coming from my head. That was coming from my heart. And that is what our what we need to be doing is create a relationship with your higher power. Start to trust Trust your guided intuition. This is why they want us in fear. Because when we are in fear, we are not connected to our heart. We are connected to something that's trying to get us out of fear. We want out of fear. Connect with your heart and trust your your your guided intuition. Trust your intuition.
Beautiful. Thank you, Michelle Melendez. I'm so glad you were persistent and reached out and reached out a second time. You're welcome anytime you've got something new to report and um the pieces you're putting together are so so important. So again, Find, pardon me, find Michelle's book at
greatmau landgrabook.com. You can get it on Amazon, but it's cheaper on my website, greatmau landrabook.com. Put truth truth t ru in the coupon code, get 10% off. And then share it. Share it, you guys, because the more people that know what's going on, I I feel that there's going to be a shift. And then creating that higher power, that relationship with your higher power.
Thank God. Well, thank you for being a trutht teller. I'm really grateful to you. Have a lovely rest of your rest of your day. Do I say mahalo as a goodbye as well as a hello?
Uh aloha is a goodbye and hello and mahalo is thank you. So mahalo new to you
and aloha. All right. Thank you Michelle Melendez.
Aloha everyone.
All right. I'm gonna say goodbye to you and then I'm gonna invite Brian O'Shea uh to the studio. Um come on and join me darling. We're going to have a second a secondh episode in this live stream. This is the wonderful O'Shea and I've asked him to join us for this second part of this podcast um from the exotic distance of the next room because um he well obviously since we last were on camera together and of course he has his own podcast called Investigate Everything on the network Daily Cloud. Um but Brian is also for those of you who don't know him a uh most of his career in military intelligence that in the intelligence community um embedded with special forces uh signals intelligence um and then I met him as I mentioned when I was ranting a moment ago um I met him when I was getting death threats in 2014. He was a security consultant and um made my stalkers go away and we dated um six months later and have been married uh we've been together for 10 years. Uh so it all so God's got a sense of humor. It all ended happily. Um something that started out in a very scary way uh was turned out to be a blessing. But um Brian has this incredibly rich I'm just picking up the dog who wants to be part of the part of the family. Brian has incredibly rich kind of unbelievably rich background in geopolitics. And um since we were last together with all of you, um there has been the the Zalinski meltdown on camera at the White House with President Trump and JD Vance, the vice president. Uh, those of you who haven't seen the full video, not the excerpts, you really should. Um, darling, can we get rid of this comment uh under us because we're changing um we're changing subjects now. And
and while I'm doing that, can you hear me?
Yeah, we hear you fine.
Okay, great. And just uh go ahead and click on your comments so you don't have to look at the comments.
I don't know how to do it.
That's fine. I'll take care of it.
All right. Thank you, sweetheart. But I wanted you to talk about first what are the issues that were raised for you dramatically by Zalinski and Europe's reaction.
Well, I mean the issues are are vast. I'm going to cover those on my show tonight um at 8:00. Um find it on Rumble or wherever else you watch these. Um the biggest issue that I saw with it was I think u I I do believe that there was no mineral deal to begin with. And I base this off the fact that um Starmer, the prime minister of the UK, he signed a 100red-year mineral deal with Sinsky just uh on the 17th of January. Um so it seems like Zalinski is peddling whatever he can to whomever he can to get some backing um because he's he's essentially screwed at this point. Um that was a big issue I saw right there. And obviously if I knew the White House knew And they I think they gave him enough rope to figuratively hang himself with in that press conference.
Jump just jumping in, sweetheart. Um
what's wrong with that? Like why shouldn't he sell his minerals to America and to Britain if there are enough minerals or is the kind of thing that you need one exploer, one country alone?
Well, the there's nothing really wrong with that except that after the blow up or whatever you want to call it, Um, if you give me a second, I just want to close the door so we can get rid of that echo. Do you mind?
Yeah, go ahead. And I'll just update people who may not know what we're referring to. So during the Zalinsky encounter, um, there was the reason Zilinsky ostensively came to the White House was to sign an agreement that had been agreed to uh already by both Zilinski and the president to exp to in exchange for for security activities from the White House, um more money, more weapons, maybe even more personnel. Um he Zalinski would allow President Trump to exploit the rare earth uh under under the Ukraine. And it's Brian's fascinating theory that this whole war was precipitated because of the rare earth, that Black Rockck wants the rare earth. Um darling, I don't know if you heard what I was just saying, but I was saying you yeah it's your theory that the whole war is is predicated on the rare earth from the very beginning and that that's what Black Rockck wanted and as I just said in my interview with Michelle Melendez that your theory was that the war exists to clear out for one reason to clear out all the houses buildings schools you know infrastructure that is sitting on top of the rare earth and then you were saying uh Zilinski's already made a deal for the rare earth with with other countries with Britain and I was saying what's wrong with that?
Well, I I don't think uh let me so let me take those one at a time. I don't think it's because um the entire war was predicated on the rare earths. I believe that um it's predicated on a lot of things. So, first of all, that region's been in conflict forever and it's always been kind of a regional conflict. You know, they went at it in 2014 before that um over and over. The key thing with Ukraine geographically is its access to the Black Sea and it's also a buffer state for um you know between the Russia and NATO. Keep in mind as a sidebar that you know I've done work in Russia, I've done work in Ukraine and the Russians are as scared of NATO as NATO's pretending to be of the Russians and they always have been.
And so what really got things uh fired up several, you know, over a decade ago is when they made the, you know, Estonia and Lithuania and the other Balkan um when they made them
Baltic darling is that correct?
Baltic when they made them part of NATO
that was a direct violation of an agreement that Putin had had with the United States and NATO some time ago.
So that really precipitated it. But keep in mind that the shelling was going back and forth across the borders back in 2021. And this is idenced by an FAA um airspace uh closure report over the area back in April of 2021. I can't call it on my screen, but I'll put it in the the description. So, there's a million reasons. Uh that's one of those countries that there's a lot going on there from our bioweapons labs to, you know, the access. It's there's a lot going on there. And then the next part you ahead,
um the next part is well, what jumped out at you at, you know, from the from the exchange at the White House.
Okay. Yeah. So, a big body language thing. Zalinski went in there. Clearly, someone had steered him wrong. It could have been those senators and the breakfast he had that morning telling him to maybe be tough.
Just fill in a bit, darling. Which senators? What breakfast?
Oh, well, there was a big breakfast of mainly Democratic and, you know, a lot of Rhino senators, uh, our senators when he got got to Washington C. Uh Zilinsky got to Washington DC
and they were all like, you know, praising him and he's made to feel like a king. And then he walks in and he starts negotiating. He starts litigating in front of the press
with Trump with Trump and JD Vance. Right.
Yeah. So later on they're they're having this meeting. Now backing up, you you have to understand that these phone calls between the White House and Ukraine have been going back and forth for a couple weeks now coming to this point. His only task that day was to go sign that mineral deal.
That was his only job,
right?
And that's all he had to do.
He could turn around and say, you know what, deals off the table at another time. Let's meet in private.
But it's a big risk he took trying to, you know, litigate this in front of the media. Uh Zilinski,
do you think he was provoked into doing that? Do you think he didn't intend to?
Uh Um, yeah. I mean, look, I I think I think uh President Trump and JD Vance were going to use that event to let the American people see
what Zullinsky really is all about. And I think they succeeded in that. I think he took the bait.
Um, it, you know, and I'm I'm and you know, I'm a big Trump supporter, so I thought that was brilliant. Um, but he Zalinski also has been kind of skipping around um feeling pretty puffed out in his chest because of the EU and the UK having his back.
Now, that to me is is pretty indicative of someone who doesn't really understand his allies that well.
Yeah.
Because what do you mean?
Well, let's take I don't want to give away too much from tonight's show, but let's take the UK for instance. Now, Kier Starmer uh the prime minister has said we've got your back. Zillinsky went right to Kier Starmer after the meeting. He that's the first place he flew to. He got his photo op with the king
and he's like, "We got your back. We're going to send you more money, but and we're going to send troops on the ground if necessary." That's what Kier Starmer said,
right?
Here's the problem. The economy of the UK is in shambles mainly because of like DEI programs
and they have taken from defense spending the UK to fund these programs. So the UK over the last few years have suffered uh in their readiness capability. Um and this has been an ongoing thing. They just had in the UK the government just ordered a review of defense readiness by of the UK military
and it fell short by miles. So
Oh no.
It's kind of like if I got into a fight with uh you know if I got into a fight with Mike Tyson and then my 90 pound buddy said, "Hey bro, I got your back.
It's not Thanks. So, that's the thing. And Germany's still not committing to troops. Poland is still not committing to troops.
Wow.
But the UK is fixated on it to the point where, and you and I were just in the UK last week.
Um, so I dove into this hard and I was talking to people on the street about it even. Um, there they want to start conscription um of troops to go fight in Ukraine. The problem is no one's going to go fight uh for the UK government, especially for Ukraine, because so many of the eligible people, which are not as many as you think,
don't even consider consider themselves British. They're they're immigrants.
Whoa. Well, don't they have to go if they're conscripted, whether they consider themselves British or not?
Well, there's um technically yes. But, you know, there's this whole um you you have this problem. There's a lot of people that can go to Wales or go to Ireland, right?
And now,
you know, Ireland's part of the the EU, right?
So, they can't really drag them out of Ireland. But there's also the thing of how do you identify them? How do you they, you know, the UK government is talking that they will still honor things like, you know, mental health as a reason to not get conscripted. So, I can imagine there's going to be a lot of mental health issues popping up for the people feeling forced to,
right?
Um 60% of the UK population, according to um yeah, an op-ed I read by one of their colonels, one of the UK's colonels in the Daily Mail, 60% of the eligible of the population of the UK is overweight.
So they right now the UK does not have enough barely enough people to um really defend their own territories um and themselves. So this whole thing of sending troops over
those, God forbid, if there's a shot fired, those troops that they send over will become cannon fodder, right?
I mean, because they'll they'll expedite the training. It takes at least five months to make someone a viable soldier at least.
And that's a real problem. And I I think the UK people who are eligible and eligibility right now is 18 to 35 would be the primary men and and women.
Mh. They're not going to go. That's what I see happening here. They're just not going to go. And I uh I have the highest respect for the UK military. I've worked with them. Some of the finest special forces on the planet.
But when you you just don't have the numbers, you just don't have the numbers.
Whoa. Well, this is, you know, a shocking kind of um it's almost like President Trump by withdrawing the money pulled a rug over a festering hole full of maggots. that that is Europe and Europe's military readiness. Um because it's like they thought this day would never come, right? They're so unprepared. There's like no plan B. And it it just makes me angry as an American uh feeling like and we we had this feeling when we were in Europe and in Britain like they didn't think the gravy train would ever stop arriving in, you know, Disney Europe and Disney UK. And I love Europe and I love Britain. Love, love, love. But it's so ironic. I'm reading this book right now, as you know, darling. Um, Ray Strong's the story of Britain. And Europe's been fighting its own battles. Britain's been fighting its own battles for as long as there's been recorded history in Europe and in Britain. And it's anomalous that after World War II because of a very unusual situation of, you know, Britain in I mean um Britain in ruins to some extent, but Europe in ruins, uh, the Marshall and um you know this vigorous post-war American economy. We said okay we'll take care of a disproportionate amount of defending Europe and that's just lasted for for decades and decades and and you and I were very struck when we were in Britain and I know people are suffering in Britain to you know to some extent in Europe but compared with America it's so luxe right right now it's like people have this image of America being this fat rich adolescent, you know, with more money than it knows what to do with. So why not defend your allies? Um, but they don't have an image and a lot of their picture of America is from Hollywood. They don't have an image of people working three jobs or vast tents of the homeless in our cities or
no they don't
they you know kids with asthma and diabetes from a bad food supply, not enough medicine, our infrastructure crumbling. They don't see the real America. They don't they don't absorb that we're in debt and we're going to go bankrupt if we don't get a grip on our spending. And so it was surreal for you and me to be in a Baltic country that I'm not going to name out of respect for.
Oh, you you said UK earlier. You mean
Yeah. And UK
uh I I didn't want to single out Lithuania because of our host, but a
Oh, that's okay.
Okay. A Baltic country and and the United Kingdom that like and even Brussels, which we passed through in Denmark. People compared to America, people are living so well. Compared to America, people are so well-dressed, wellfed, healthy, you know, the infrastructure is first rate, the schools. Can
I speak on that really quickly? Sorry.
Sorry.
And I'm sorry to to your point that that was really I found uh frustrating to see people walking around in all the countries we went to um sipping coffee, having wonderful pastries on a Wednesday,
right?
And doing the thing that most Americans will work, you know, an extra job to save up to have that week-l long vacation that is that,
right?
And they're complaining that we're cutting off money. But in some of these countries, what we're seeing is that the majority of the uh GDP comes from NOS's which are funded by the USAD.
Right. Right. No. Absolely. Absolutely. You and I, we weren't eavesdropping, but we overheard many conversations of businessmen in particular bitching that, you know, there would be tariffs and bitching that uh it was going to be bad for Europe, but not giving any thought to the fact that we're not Europe. You know, it might be good for the United States. And and and they weren't doing it like, "Wow, this is really unfortunate. The situation has changed." They were doing it like the I think the thing that made us so frustrated. I don't want to speak for you was they weren't just complaining. They were complaining like an entitled affluent 17-year-old who's told that they cannot have a car before their 18th birthday. Right. Right.
I mean, it was just like, what do you mean I don't get everything I want from the great, you know, tap that I turn to get unlimited euros, which is called the United States of America. That's
Well, Naomi I would say it's almost a a like this kind of socialist attitude uh permeates everything, every opinion where like you have more money. Of course, you should be sharing it with everyone else.
But we don't have more money right now.
Well, here keep this in mind. Think of all the hotels, right? What's on TV? What do you have access to? You have access to Eurovvision, BBC,
you know, one through 17, um, and CNN,
right?
In in in those type of venues. So, that's what they're seeing. and alls they see is scenes of Manhattan at Christmas and right they they're not even covering hurricanes over there and and why the wildfires they that what they cover they cover rich people getting interviewed that's a
I I mean all that I I totally agree with you all that being true it's still not their money right even if they thought those Americans are so rich they should give us all their money right um it's not their money and And and why should I think about how militarized our society is. I think about you honey as a veteran. You know, a lot of Americans join the military for a lot of reasons. They many of them that I know join because they can't afford to go to college. Um also because they want to serve their country. Also because otherwise they can't afford training for the profession that they want to be in. I I'm sure you can add a million other reasons that the soldiers
All I know is I really just wanted to kill somebody.
Okay. Do That's a stripes reference for all of you movie buffs out there.
Okay, Julie noted. But my point is it's it's a heavily militiz militarized society. And interestingly, that really does something to the United States, right? The thread of veterans throughout our society, I think, really gives us a lot of things which I haven't teased out yet. But in Britain, it's so striking. They they demilitarize their societies because they don't have to militarize because we're doing it for them, right? We're using What is the shocking thing for me? That's a shocking shocking thing. Sorry to jump in.
No, go go go go rant. Go.
So, what I've noticed is like in all the militaries I've worked with, I've worked with 47 different militaries because I was in um two special forces units. So, one of our main missions was called FID, which is foreign internal defense. So, we train other militaries. Um what was striking to me was the countries like Thailand, even South Korea, Philippines, uh Even Australia, they they military is a really big deal. Really big deal. And
it's all the times. Now, granted, we spent a lot of time in Oxford, but you just don't see the um you know, at least in the cities, you just don't see this this kind of patriotism that normally forms behind soldiers, right?
Except in Lithuania, you know, they they're pretty proud of their military and they seem more proud of their military
uh than anything else,
right? But they, you know, they made a deal with the NGO devil and they're kind of addicted to that that free money.
Well, so what I saw, what I've really been thinking about, sweetheart, reading this book, the story of Britain, is in the whole history, 800 years of British history when in in Europe as well, when there were wars to fight, the treasury would be emptied and the um the king would be weakened. because it's so expensive to pay soldiers and and arm them and send them out to fight a war. But when there was peace, uh that's when and stability, that's when the country would be rich and the king would be rich and the treasury would be replenished. So I I mention this because looking around at Western Europe, they've had 70 years to replenish their treasuries, you know, and we haven't. We've emptied our treasury and it's so so clear like all the money they're not spending on defense, you know, the museums, the free education, the free health care, just the beauty of everything, right? And the sign of luxury. Uh so many women staying home with their children, which costs a fortune, right? And so many moms in America would love to stay home with their children and can't afford to. Um and it's just so striking to me that they've had peace and prosperity for 70 years because we're shouldering the burden of the chunk of their budgets that would otherwise go to the military. Um, very very striking. Let me uh add one more thing about this culturally now that Starmer is trying to say, "Oh, it's fine. We're going to have, you know, we're just going to conscript all of you. You can't really have it both ways, right, honey? In terms of um drumming up an army, what I mean is you can't really have globalization, which says borders don't matter, nations don't matter. You're going to offend people if you fly the Union Jack. You know, you can't say it's Christmas. You have to say winter market because you don't want to offend the Muslim people. Um, you know, huge plantations of immigrants, plantations, they use that word in Ireland, you know, in barracks, in camps. Um, you know, it doesn't matter. Rip up our national symbols. Like you and I were very struck when we arrived in here that there are no symbols of Britain when we arrived. Almost zero. No flag, no, you know, the garden at Busby outside of of the palace, no Paddington bear, no no tea, no scones, no like no Britain, you know, no great writers, no Shakespeare, literally nothing. And and it's being scrubbed from other European countries as well. Like national identity is being scrubbed. My point is, you can't really spend 10 or 15 years, I would say, since Tony Blair del diluting national identity in Britain. very intentionally and then say, "Oh, patriotism time. Time to send your son or daughter to fight a war in, you know, the Ukraine um for for this country that we've told you doesn't really exist and that you can't really be patriotic about." What would you say to that?
That leads into my point perfectly. So, and I'm going to use someone else's words. Uh, so this is who I was talking about. This is from the I love the Daily Mail, by the way. When I'm over there, I love it. It's the best paper and it's good for news. for airflight. But uh yeah, this Colonel Richard Kemp, he was a big commander and he's talking about the article is um how Britain would go about bringing back conscription with women in asylum seekers called up, but no Gen Cenz snowflakes. Right away, the title's not going to help anyone because I wouldn't let my kids go as American soldiers. I I you know, until the military is fixed, I would encourage my kids not even to go into our military until it gets now I would with Hegath in charge but over the last four years no way
and uh and that's coming from a guy who spent 11 very happy years in the military
but um what's the way they're going about it the UK it's all wrong so and it's more than 10 or 15 years eroding their patriotism uh listen to this what this guy says he says um above all above everything else most important part of any conscription program is its perceived legitimacy.
Conscription relies on winning hearts and minds. He goes into something that happened at Oxford and then but he goes on to say how when you know when he was in school like since the 70s they've been eroding people's faith in their country and how colonialism is bad and evil and the UK is bad and evil. That's happening over there too. But he listen to this. This is this is shocking and listen to the approach because the approach is shocking and it might sound familiar. Um, a poll this month found that only 41% of Gen Z were proud to be British.
Oh god.
Only 11 uh only 11% were prepared to fight for their country.
Well, they go together, right? If you propagandize kids and our kids too into being ashamed of their country, and you can do that by cherrypicking any nation's history, right? only focusing on what's bad about it. Why would they fight and serve?
And and plus you've been telling them that, you know, co, you know, colonizing people, which is done at the point of a bayonet historically, is those are evil people that do that. Now they want them to dawn that that uniform and that bayonet and be those people in their minds.
Um,
right.
So, how do you can this is horrible. He says, "Oh, yeah. Then, uh, all aged between 18 and 27 said they would take up arms only if They agreed with the reasons. And this always pisses off older generations. So, how do you convince people to fight for a country they don't believe in?
Oh my god.
I was liking this guy's article till this last part here. The government would engage in a number of multimedia and advertising agencies,
propaganda,
engage a number of multimedia and advertising agencies to pump out information across new media platforms including Tik Tok.
Oh my god.
And Instagram while hiring well-known faces,
influencers,
worlds of entertainment and sport to spread and share their message. They would also have to deploy thousands of online monitors to take down propaganda and disinformation spread by legions of Russian bots
intent on sewing division and misinformation. Well, that's ridiculous that obviously they always blame Russian bots. But he just said three paragraphs ago that, you know, it's the culture that's the problem. That's where the division is,
right?
Um, and the division is between the young people and the elites who are are ruling that country. And then I'll say this final thing,
what people, and I didn't know, I didn't know much about Starmer before our trip. Um, but what people have to remember is that they had Brexit. What was that in like 2014?
I don't remember.
So, what happened was um, you know, Brexit for those that don't know is the you left the EU. And that's Brexit. And that was a huge thing. There are people arguing in pubs. We were there. It was crazy.
Um, but what's, you know, the majority of of of the UK people are still, they love their sovereignty. They love being British. They love being the UK, and they're really getting screwed by the EU. Well,
um, what Starmer's been doing, well, he's telling people he's going to want people to be patriotic. Well, what he's been doing is signing deals with the EU. Like one in particular they signed two weeks ago was to submit to the EU's food safety regulations.
Oh my gosh.
So basically the EU will dictate how the UK eats.
Oh my gosh.
And he's also getting ready to submit to something. Get ready for this one. Despite their illegal alien problems over there in the UK, they got too many of them by their own admission.
Um
he's submitting to something called a worker exchange program with the EU. which lets unlimited numbers of workers come through and work in the UK on that program.
So, how can they be patriotic when their own leader is selling them out to a globalist ideal,
right? Which was predictable.
What a mess. I I I just feel it's important to note here that in I think in 2014 I went Yeah, it was 2014. Gonna hold Loki because he wants to be part of this. Um I went to uh Glasgow because Daily Clout was examining the um the referendum about Scotland leaving uh the United Kingdom. And the reason I'm bringing this up is, you know, the fact that Starmer is really no different from any other globalist you could choose isn't surprising because Britain has a huge problem and I hope there are British people watching with their electoral system and we confirmed it. Uh Basically, there's no way to verify that their votes are being counted correctly. Um, there was a huge amount of of fraud and blank ballots in the Scottish referendum. And we and we had a spreadsheet of 400 eyewitnesses with their blank ballots, their photographs of blank ballots, meaning not valid. And they were all in precincts that would have voted yes to leave the EU. But there when we investigated, well, what do you do if there's an anomaly or some problems with the election, the voters were told to go to their police. The police told them to go to the council. The council told them to go to the electoral commission, which is a UK government entity which works for the United Kingdom government from which people were trying to secede and the electoral commission told them to go to the police. So, it was a complete circle and there was no way to ver verify the vote. Um, people were told it would cost £25,000 to file a request for judicial review. Uh, basically, I guess what I'm trying to say is till going back to at least 2014, probably earlier, you guys have no idea who actually won your elections, just like we don't know um until, you know, going back to 2005, who actually won our elections because of our digital technology here. I'm just putting that out there because among the things British people need to do to get their country back, they need to um change the electoral system, to have paper ballots, local counting, get rid of the electoral commission and you know have have accountability for their electoral system. Um well let's go to something else really interesting that you said honey about black rock and oh I'm sorry about Starmer and the pensions and this is going to make British listeners heads explode. Um what was it you told me about Starmer and the pensions and their relationship to Ukraine?
Yes. Um and and by the way We love the UK. We love the UK people. You guys have the same problems we have with politicians. Um, and we're with you. Um, so haven't confirmed it yet, but I was sitting there beating my head against the wall saying, "What is Starmer thinking?" Like, why is he overd delivering? I mean, overpromising when he's doomed to underdel on these promises.
Like, what is his focus on getting boots on the ground? Boots on the ground.
What is that?
Well, As it turns out, there's a lot of these countries, the UK included, who have invested in the redevelopment of Ukraine going back to 2022.
Oh my gosh.
Right, you know, right around the time the bombs started falling, even though, as you recall, we couldn't see them on the news for some reason.
Um, and so what I found was a bunch of these Britishbased funds who have hundreds of billions of their investors dollars invested in these redevelopment programs for when Ukraine is flattened and they rebuild these like smart cities and all this stuff.
Um well it appears and I have to confirm it but this one fund I found it appears that they have uh local and like provincial level government pensions in the UK are invested in the redevelopment. Well guess what
if the whole country doesn't get leveled thus calling for redevelopment. There goes your money.
Oh my god. They have to destroy the rest of what's left standing in Ukraine to justify the redevelopment, which is the only way the pension funds in Britain are going to pay out for the elderly who have worked all their lives in Britain. Is that what you're saying, sweetheart?
Yeah. And not only that, the only way that um you know, the UK Ukrainian government can make good on lot of these investments which have flown right to them is through precious minerals and probably pay back investors with our money I'm guessing. Um but yeah, it's just like that's the thing. The whole thing is based on
Oh, it's a Ponzi scheme.
Total Ponzi scheme.
Oh my god. So if Trump didn't come through with billions, which he didn't, that was Starmer's and Zalinsk's only chance starmer to not have the pensions of the elderly collapse riding
I mean I can't say the elderly but yeah pensions
pensions right pensions collapsing and Zalinski what what does Zillinsky face if he doesn't get the money from um which he's not from Trump
well what he faces is utter defeat possibly you might see him fleeing the country because he can't pay back the investors.
Which investors?
Oh, everyone from
the globalist investor,
the globalist investors, France, everyone. And I think even Turkey has some investment in there because what what would have worked out perfect for Star, let's just stick with him, is getting boots on the ground to secure things like mines and and assets and things like that. That's the whole point of that. Russia is not going to care if you get some British troops on as peacekeepers. Um, And that also lets them secure physically secure their investment and get something out of that at least hedge. But see then it got complicated when Trump started throwing the mineral deal around.
Um so they the UK was like you notice the UK wasn't really saying hey give them give Ukraine a security agreement the United States that involves boots on the ground. What the UK was saying was give them a security agreement. Give them security uh what do you call them? Uh guarantees. And so there was this one exchange with Starmer and and um Don President Trump where he said, "Well, it'd be our troops." And Trump's like, "Well, you know, we you know, we could get to that." But he was insistent that it's their troops on the ground, the UK troops.
Now it gets complicated because Turkey out of the blue has said, "Hey, you know what? We'll send some troops over there."
Wait a sweetheart. I'm still not understanding how does it benefit Starr to send and troops. I mean, I get to have the war continue so he can level the rest of the Ukrainian buildings that are standing so he can make good on the pensioners investments. But why would he not be angling to get other countries to send troops boots on the ground?
Well, he's he's he's angling. They're just not doing it. And they probably don't have much as much at stake as he does.
So, why would he do it? Well, You know, that would indicate that Zalinsky has some leverage over him. Well, of course he does because all Zalinsky has to do is nationalize these projects and then all that investor money is gone.
Oh my goodness.
And that's I'm I'm guessing that's the threat.
Wow. Why would anyone have invested in Ukraine if there was that vulnerability that Zinsky could just say, "Sorry, it's nationalist."
Well, they first of all, I don't think anyone expected Trump to get back into the White House. I think that's the biggest reason, right?
So, there are guarantees made whether Camel is in the White House, whether House Plant Biden is in the White House. It didn't matter to them. He's doing whatever they say,
right?
Um or she is. So, it didn't matter either way, right?
And then you also have a very weak House leadership in Johnson where he tends to the Republican um Speaker Johnson who tends to keep passing these continued resolutions that run the hell out of Ukraine. And that keeps that gravy train rolling.
Oh my gosh, how cynical. So
I've got the receipts, too.
No, I Baby, you always have the receipts. I I'm just trying to process what you're saying. So, do you think that's why they tried to assassinate President Trump at least twice before he even
Well, that and that and many other things, but yes, he's he's look, he's bad for investment in across so many industries because what does the military industri complex, ours and theirs. Um, what do they make money on is war. Okay, so uh he's bad for that. Remember the uproar that everyone had the rhinos or Republicans in name only and the our own Democrats when Trump President Trump wanted to pull the troops out of Germany that had been there for decades,
right?
It was an uproar. You're going to leave us exposed, you know, and all that. Um, so that's bad for business. And then also you got
you mean defense industry.
What's up?
The defense industry.
Yeah, the defense industry. That's one of them. But also construction, offhighway equipment, things like Caterpillar, John Deere, uh you know, uh Sonni, I mean, name whatever, you know, construction uh equipment company you want. Um so they all get contracts. So if there's a rebuilding, you're going to have massive contracts for companies like Caterpillar and Um, you know, you're also reclaiming land. There's also the infrastructure people. Then there, don't forget the lobbyists. There's one called, you're like this. One of who's at the tip of the spear on a lot of these deals is called Aren't Fox LLP.
Aren't Fox?
I'm not making it up.
Funny. I believe
they they popped up on Laura Ingram's show.
Um, and they have been there on the ground before bullets flew in Syria, in Libya.
Oh my goodness.
In Ukraine,
Angel of Death.
And actually, the the lawyer who was on who blocked me the minute I tweeted that, within minutes, he blocked me. Um, he's married to a Ukrainian beauty queen and he had Anthony Fauci at his wedding.
Oh, wow.
All gang. All one big gang. Oh, and let's not forget also,
we do have weapons labs in Ukraine. weapons labs. You mean bioweapon?
Biological weapons labs. And
talk about that. What's the point of that?
Well, I mean to make biological weapons off the grid and not in a NATO country. So, and it's also um there were rumors and they're just rumors, but you know, a lot of captured Russian soldiers are subject to some of these tests, but I can't I can't verify that. But, um The thing is it's like we know about that because Victoria Nuland um who was uh with state and especially back in 2014 when Zalinsky magically came into power through a democratic process. Well, she she kind of engineered that whole thing, that whole color revolution as they call it in 2014. At that time there was a deal signed with the US government in Ukraine about hey we're going to set up all these labs to study these things you've been making and make sure they're not dangerous so we can mitigate them as a threat. That's how that's how they do these things is kind of language.
Well, I just found, you know, then zip ahead to what 2022 23. Victoria Nuland is at a congressional uh hearing.
Rubio asks her, he's like uh you know what else is going on there or something, I'll paraphrase. And Victoria Nuland says it. She's like, well, we have several uh facilities that may be working on dangerous pathogens and we're worried the Russians will get their hands on them. Like really? And Rubio had that look on his face like did you just say that out loud?
Wow.
So there's a lot going on in Ukraine and it if of all the countries in this conflict and I'm not taking sides here. I'm certainly not. But I'd be most terrified if I was with all this stuff going on had Donald Trump not gotten into office because we've seen what Zillinsky does. You give that kid a weapon and he he he fires it at someone without missing a beat.
Imagine if we gave them nukes.
Oh my gosh. Um and talk about the the rare earth too, which for some reason the president kept calling raw earth. Is that a different name for it or was he just getting it wrong? Yeah, I think you just got it wrong. But you know,
but so your your theory is that the the war also has to continue to bomb the heck out of the areas that have rare earth underneath them so that black rock can get at the minerals and that black rock moved in even before the war started so it could be in place to get the minerals. Is that your your theory?
So titanium, lithium, aluminum, these are all the biggest ones. Um obviously they all have key. They're all key for making um sophisticated electronics and many other things. So, the rare earths, but don't forget the gas. The gas is a big thing.
Um so, Europe is supplied most of their ga natural gas comes from Russia.
Um actually, after we shut down all of our stuff under Biden, we became their third largest customer for natural gas,
Russia.
So, yes.
Okay. all through this war. And so what was happening with the USAID, Poland, and Ukraine uh just prior to 2021 there, they had this project in place that was building out this whole pipeline with storage facilities, the goal being to cut Russia out of the European market.
And from the maps of the pipelines, which they took it down offline pretty quickly, I have a copy. Um But you know what was happening? It looked to me like Ukraine would have been tapping into Russia's reserves and then pumping it right to Poland. You see that's the reason why Poland in 2022 that was the first country to offer military hardware for support. They had a vested interest.
I'm not following this sweetheart. What's the quick pathy summary about the
quick piffy summary is that people have in different countries across you know in the EU who um the UK, Canada of course um and the United States have invested hundreds of billions of dollars in um getting the rare earth minerals, having a seat at the table in the Ukrainian government when they solidify the country and cutting Russia off from their main customer.
And so peace threatens all of that.
Peace threatens all of that because like they say, the best time for opportunity is in a time of chaos. chaos.
Oh god, this is so cynical. You you were in the military for much of your career. Um, why can't we just like pay the defense industry to not make war?
You would think we could do that easily, hence the name,
right?
So, um,
but seriously,
some wars are necessary. Some wars are necessary. I I do believe that like, you know, the Iraq Kuwait war was necessary war. I believe uh the war on terror was necessary, just not the way we went about it. I don't think going after Iraq really had to happen. Um but you know, some wars are necessary. However, it's become more and more prevalent since the the the you know, the ending of the cold war and a lot of people consider the Iraq Kuwait like the last cold war style war
um because there's containment. Um a lot of the wars since then have been very Um, I don't know what you'd even say. It's almost like the way the East India Tea Company would go and raid countries and and take them over to plunder them.
Like plunder wars, just wars of plunder. Is that what you're saying?
It does feel like plunder wars. A lot of it. And what happens is you have the the war, okay, and then like a whale. And then they have all those little like feeder fish that eat the algae off the whale. Those are your not only defense contract contractors, but also um logistic contractors like Dinecore and Hallebert and which was owned by Cheney
um who make tons of money off this stuff. And I I'll give a final example then I'll I'll land this plane as an example of that. So much money goes into the smallest conflicts and sometimes at not to benefit the soldiers. So when I was down in Enduring Freedom and I was deployed down to Zambboaga, the southern Philippines,
they made us take out cash. You know, we had to do one transaction a week on the ATM which was deployed by Dine so they could make their fees. The soldiers
evil. Evil.
So evil. And also chiming in there and thank you for your service. Um
welcome.
I did notice when I was the only American journalist in Guantanamo 6 months into to um President Obama's administration that the contractors lived like kings and the enlisted men and women lived like very modest humble existences. It was shocking.
Well, I mean I I never really as a soldier I you come to expect that you're a soldier, you know, and that's you know I don't expect to live like a king. I I think compared to other militaries we we live pretty good. Um
okay. I was just I was just surprised to see the contractors in like town houses and you know just kind of fabul fabulosity compared with the modest barracks or you know little simple constructions.
Well they they probably wrote that into their contracts. That's why
I see. All right. Well this brings us back full circle. Um our poor soldiers you know I think it's I'm not going off out of school to you've been waiting for months for basic, you know, appointments with the VA. Uh, our poor soldiers are not getting the care that they need. They're not getting the support that they need. Um, many lives shattered, many injuries and and and you know, we did not put America first. Um, we didn't put our soldiers first and and we bore the brunt. And, you know, your your colleagues bore the brunt and Europe didn't. And so, I guess there's part of me that is just like joyful that, you know, we're not we're not sacrificing our our men and women for other people's wars anymore and that we've got a I'm just going to say we've got a president who's putting America first and and who wants peace. And it's kind of shocking to hear a president say, you know, I they're they're Russian soldiers. They're Ukrainian soldiers. I don't care. I care about everybody. We want peace. A thousand people, 2,000 people are dying in your war, Zalinsky, every week. We want peace, you have to have a ceasefire. It's it's amazing. It's like he's not part of a a a chess board that has gone back for decades in which everybody plays the part of pretending to want peace but really wanting to prolong the dirty wars.
Um
because he doesn't need the money. That's
because he doesn't need the money.
He's not getting paid off.
Say one thing about one Zalinsky comment that really
Yes, darling. Then we've got to wrap it up. I fear
when that I'm sorry that guy's a little If I met him in a bar with.
But um the thing is I hate that whole narrative about you have two nice oceans. Does he have any idea
what how many people we've lost crossing those oceans to protect the freedom of the world or what it's taken to keep people from crossing those oceans? Like does he think we just kind of like,
you know, play the game of risk and just happen to get like the place with the oceans? Like that's what he forgets, you know? when he made that comment, I I would I think that was the turning point right there. You have two nice oceans. It's like, oh, please, dude. You know, like we were t like this country did not just come out of the fact that we had two oceans, right?
I just, you know, learn I my my message to the Zalinsky is read a book once in a while and make sure it's about history.
Whoa. Well said, darling. You're absolutely right. And we have crossed those oceans and lost so many. And we've lost so many fighting World war and World War II and we were fighting
there wars that had to be fought but but we've we've certainly paid our dues historically for for Europe's freedom and in our own um all right we have to end there uh people can hear you at 8 o'clock right
they can so if um everyone just goes to let me put on the screen and then
investigate everything here on daily clout at 8 o'clock You're going to hear from Brian O'Shea. He's going to share the things with you then that he he is held in obeyance. Um, investigate everything. And where do people find you on X, darling? And how do they support you?
Oh, yeah. You can find me on X at um Brian O'Shea SPI. Um, and that's where I I look at most of my stuff is on on X. Here you go. Okay. And yeah, that's us. So, yeah, Brian O'Shea. SPI. Um, and if you are DMing me and with regards to something we talked about in the show, just put that in the subject line so I I know to open it up because I get a lot of DMs. Um, but yeah, you that's where you can find me. And again, make sure you go to uh tonight investigate everything. I mean, you stole a lot of my thunder, but that's okay. I I'll I'll put the receipts out there tonight.
There there is always more thunder, darling.
And we're always trying to connect these dots, how they affect people, how they you. And what I always try to do with my audience, and they're very good about it, is everyone's sending me leads. People are are investigating things that will be like in the Midwest connected to some fiasco in the Ukraine. It's it's pretty amazing that that tunes in that really
investigators with Brian O'Shea. Thank you, darling. I'm gonna sign off now and everyone can see Brian at 8. Thank you all for joining us.
What? Honey,
hop off first because it's your show. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave first.
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