Eric Weinstein on Global Crises and Physics Secrets

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This podcast session is dedicated exclusively to exploring the key takeaway points presented in the recent excerpts from the transcript of the video "“You’re Watching the End of the World in Real Time – Eric Weinstein”" uploaded on the YouTube channel "The Diary Of A CEO."

The source material presents several profound and provocative points concerning global stability, the nature of science and power, emerging technologies, and societal superstructures.

Analysis of the NEW YOUTUBE SOURCE

The source material conveys a dramatic and urgent perspective on the current global situation, asserting that we are witnessing the disintegration of the post-World War II order and possibly "the end man".

Theme 1: Global Instability and the Decay of the Post-World War II Order

The post-World War II order, which served as a structure to prevent the use of certain powerful technologies, is currently observed as disintegrating. The era of stasis, where very little changed over long periods, is now described as being over. The source suggests that we are witnessing the slow rollout of a completely different world.

The current environment is characterized by overwhelming tension and escalating conflict. Recent dramatic events include hypersonic missiles slamming into a modern city and watching a sophisticated civilization like the Persians taking direct hits from Israel and the US. The individual notes that this conflict focuses the mind, raising critical questions about what possessions one would save in an apocalypse scenario.

A key concern is the existence of nine or ten nuclear countries globally, giving individuals the power to potentially wipe out all of humanity at any moment. This immense power is being wielded without a corresponding increase in wisdom. The source stresses that humanity's fate rests precariously in "one basket" because we share a single atmosphere. Everything that could cause harm, such as pathogens, climate issues, or radiation, ignores borders. Due to this shared atmosphere and the risks posed by nuclear weapons or carbon emissions, the necessity of getting to another sphere is highlighted.

This era of instability is marked by geopolitical turmoil, including the disintegration of NATO and political messes in locations like Gaza, Russia, the UK, and New York. The source attributes the relative peace experienced by younger generations to the "artificially stagnant bubble" of the preceding decades. The way back from this moment is described as slim and evaporating; either humanity will be scared into coming to its senses, or it will not.

Theme 2: Science, Secrecy, and the Power Imbalance

A central takeaway is the tension between the power inherent in scientific progress and the control exerted by governing entities. Physics is identified as the only thing that offers a pathway to humanity's future, yet the most important group—physicists—are allegedly being stopped from making progress. The desire of the government is to gain maximum power from science while simultaneously undermining the scientists themselves by belittling them, destroying their ability to earn, and ruining their lives and families.

A new idea in physics fundamentally changes the balance of power globally. The source asserts that physicists do not have free speech. This restriction is tied to the concept of Restricted Data, which means one cannot write physics down, even if unconnected to the government, if it relates to nuclear weapons. The 1917 Espionage Act, coupled with the 1946 and 1954 Atomic Energy Acts, reserves the right to penalize physicists for simply developing ideas (the doctrine of born secret), potentially making them liable for a capital offense if they generate Q clearance data from their own minds. The source suggests that the US Department of Energy effectively acts as the Department of Physics because of this deep fear and secrecy surrounding physics.

The potential danger of fundamental ideas is illustrated by the chain of ideas that led to the nuclear bomb. Ernest Rutherford’s 1911 idea about a neutral version of the proton (the neutron) led to the fission bomb, which was then used by Edward Teller and Stanislaw Ulam as a detonator for the fusion bomb (the hydrogen bomb). This chain of thought is described as perhaps the most dangerous thought ever conceived. This historical context explains why advanced physics research is suppressed or treated with extreme secrecy.

The source proposes a new theory of reality where the cosmos contains more than the standard four dimensions we currently perceive (one time, three space). This theory suggests that all six edges and four vertices (totaling ten dimensions) implicit in Einstein's field equations should be taken seriously as directions. The implication is that time may not be one-dimensional, suggesting the possibility of traversing time rather than just time travel, potentially allowing one to "go back in time without going back through time". The source warns that the government may not even possess the real secrets of physics, suggesting that they are only skilled at keeping secrets rather than discovering them.

Theme 3: High-Leverage Technology and the Challenge of AI

Modern advances are creating "high leverage" ideas that grant power far beyond any previous era. Examples include:

• The use of a four amino acid sequence inserted into spike protein shutting down the planet (implying the power of bio-levers).

• The 2017 paper "Attention Is All You Need," which opened up LLMs and AI development.

• Satoshi’s solution to the distributed double spend problem, creating "digital gold" (Bitcoin).

• AlphaFold 3, which solved the protein folding problem, drastically shifting the balance of power by allowing the potential design of tailored proteins (like nano-bots).

Regarding Artificial Intelligence (AI), the source argues that society should stop waiting for AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), as AGI expectation is merely a pre-programmed distraction. The immediate threat comes from the fact that LLMs are already capable of mimicking humans because much of what humans do and say is repetitive and scripted. The conversation suggests that human intelligence is often used as a "last resort".

AI will fundamentally transform the economy by automating nearly all repetitive behaviors. Since education currently trains people primarily for repetitive, higher-level tasks (like radiology), those occupations are highly vulnerable. AI struggles only with tasks where there is little training data (like orphan proteins or highly creative acts).

The source criticizes Elon Musk for focusing only on engineering goals (Mars, chemical rockets) without dedicating sufficient funding to the fundamental physics required to truly explore the cosmos.

Theme 4: Societal Superstructures, Managed Reality, and the Jeffrey Epstein Nexus

The source posits that we live in a managed reality, implying that elite networks and government liaisons control information and events. This system uses techniques like covert influence operations to ruin the careers and reputations of those who speak out about how the government keeps secrets. The government employs language designed to make truth-tellers look like conspiracy theorists, often using terms like pre-bunked malinformation (destroying truthful information that harms prevailing narratives).

The figure of Jeffrey Epstein is highlighted as a prime example of this managed reality. Epstein was explicitly described as a construct of elements within the intelligence community (CIA, FBI) and not a genuine financier. His financial identity was merely a cover story. Epstein focused on science and gravity, hosting events with Nobel laureates, and seemed to have unauthorized knowledge of the speaker's scientific work, suggesting he was running multiple programs—including science control—under the guise of a hedge fund genius. The source suggests that Robert Maxwell (Epstein's girlfriend's father) also operated similarly in scientific publishing (Pergamont Press) as a control mechanism to manage the flow of revolutionary discoveries.

On a societal level, the source expresses deep concern that humanity is "unhooking" from essential superstructures like tradition, religion, and family. This decay is visible in the modern focus on individual optimization and lack of legacy consciousness. The source, although personally identifying as an atheist, strongly advocates for the necessity of religion, noting that it acts as a protective mechanism preventing society from collapsing by keeping proximate needs (like air hunger) hooked to ultimate needs (like breathing). Family, particularly the choice to have children, is described as the most meaningful and unbeatable experience available to almost everyone, urging listeners to "make babies".

Theme 5: Hybrid Warfare and Geopolitical Responsibility in the Middle East

The current conflict in the Middle East is analyzed through the lens of hybrid warfare, a doctrine where the kinetic (killing/shooting) component is secondary to the social media and video component.

The source lays out a complex history of US/UK involvement, noting that both countries jointly overthrew a democratically elected leader in Iran in the 1950s (Operation Ajax), leading to the installation of the Shah and eventually the barbaric rule of the Mullers (the theocratic government). This historical action is viewed as "spilling the scalding hot soup" of revolutionary theocratic Iran onto the Middle East (the schlamazle), for which the US and UK bear responsibility.

The October 7th invasion was a calculated act of hybrid warfare masterminded by Hamas leader Senoir. Senoir, described as a genius, understood the asymmetrical advantage Israel held in kinetic warfare. He thus architected a crisis forcing Israel to respond with the "wrong tools," prioritizing the video and social media impact to turn global opinion against Israel. The situation is described as mirroring instances of "police-assisted suicide," where the aggressor forces the responder to act as the instrument of their desired outcome.

A solution requires stabilizing the region for 50 to 100 years. The Persians themselves have a responsibility to rise up against the Mullers, who are governing a nuclear theocracy. Additionally, Israel and Saudi Arabia must be involved, and peace must be established between Israelis and Palestinian Arabs who are willing to live in peace, removing hardline settlers from both sides who cannot. The source suggests the US must take ownership of its history and the heartache it created by forcing an unwanted two-state solution onto the region.

Theme 6: Personal Action and Cultivating Meaning

Despite the severity of the global situation, the source emphasizes the importance of finding and cultivating meaning. Meaning is stated to be universally available—in simple things like tropical fruit (Rambutan, Jackfruit, Mangoes), music (Pablo Casals playing the Bach Cello Suites, Eva Cassidy), or looking at the heavens during meteor showers.

The final advice given to the listener encompasses:

1. Dreaming Big and Pursuing Legacy: Don't be embarrassed about wanting to conquer the world or leave a permanent stain; try to keep the human story going.

2. Focusing on Family: Get married and have kids, as it is an unbeatable pleasure.

3. Intellectual Flexibility and Skill: Get flexible, get good, and learn to think across disciplines, as the "tsunami of a lifetime is coming," and named occupations (dentist, radiologist, accountant) are likely "over".

4. Recognizing Managed Reality: Be aware of campaigns targeting those who stand up for truth (e.g., regarding COVID origins or Jeffrey Epstein) and recognize propaganda intended to incite hatred.

5. Seeking Transcendence: Focus on exploring the universe and the infinity of space, recognizing that Earth is a "womb" and not our permanent "home".

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This transcript features a provocative and wide-ranging conversation with Eric Weinstein, a mathematician and commentator, touching upon a variety of controversial and existential topics. Key themes include his belief that the world is experiencing the "start of the end" of the post-World War II order, driven by powerful, rapidly advancing technologies like nuclear fusion and synthetic biology, which humanity lacks the wisdom to wield. Weinstein argues that a culture of "managed reality" and government efforts, potentially tied to figures like Jeffrey Epstein, have controlled and suppressed scientific progress, especially in physics, which he views as the only path to a viable future among the stars. Furthermore, he contends that the current global instability, characterized by hybrid warfare and geopolitical conflict in the Middle East, requires a return to grounding traditions like religion, even for non-believers, to prevent societal collapse. 

Discuss Jeffrey Epstein's Role.

Jeffrey Epstein’s role, according to Eric Weinstein, extended far beyond the public narrative of a disgraced financier, suggesting instead that he was a highly sophisticated operative serving multiple, hidden agendas related to national security and science12.

Epstein as a Construct and Intelligence Asset

Weinstein contends that Jeffrey Epstein "certainly was not a financier in any standard sense"13, describing that designation as a "cover story"1. The constant repetition of "disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein" by news organizations is referred to as "proceveration," designed to make the public "autocomplete" this scripted narrative3.

Weinstein would "bet money" that Epstein was a "product of at least one element of the intelligence community," possibly involving the CIA, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, or geospatial intelligence14.

Upon meeting Epstein, Weinstein recalled immediately calling his wife and saying, "I have just met a construct."5. He elaborated that Epstein was "not who they claim to be"; someone had "constructed this human being to be something that they are not," such as a hedge fund genius5.

Focus on Science and Physics

Despite the financier cover, Epstein was deeply invested in physics and theoretical science67.

1. Scientific Knowledge: Epstein "knew a tremendous amount" about Weinstein’s scientific work "in ways that he wasn't supposed to"18.

2. Harvard Connection: Epstein was "absolutely connected to the Harvard math department," where Weinstein had been in graduate school78. Weinstein desperately wants to know why Epstein was connected to his graduate program and why he knew so much about his work8.

3. Gravity Conference: Epstein was "very focused on gravity"6 and hosted a physical workshop in March 2006 called "Confronting Gravity"4.... The objective of this conference was to "get Nobel laureates and some of the smartest people on earth to come to the Virgin Islands and talk about gravity"6. Attendees included prominent scientists like Steven Hawkins, David Gross, Lawrence Krauss, and Lisa Randall6.

4. Personal Encounter: When Weinstein met Epstein (a meeting arranged by "very powerful people at JP Morgan"17), Epstein "didn't want to talk about finance; he wanted to talk about science"7.

Running Multiple Programs

Weinstein believes that whoever manufactured Epstein was "running multiple different programs through the same thing"2. Epstein was likely trying to keep a periscope on everything that was interesting2.

One major element of these programs was science2. Epstein was involved in funding science and potentially "trying to control it"10. This control is implied to be related to national security concerns, preventing revolutionary scientific discoveries—which can be dangerous, like the idea that led to the nuclear bomb1112—from falling outside of a secure framework10.

Weinstein places Epstein within a larger structure of government and media interactions that he refers to as "managed reality"13. He repeatedly demands public investigation, noting that nobody seems to ask for the filings associated with Epstein1.

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Discuss Science and Power.

The relationship between Science and Power is complex, characterized by the tremendous leverage scientific discovery provides, and the subsequent attempts by powerful entities, including government and elite networks, to control, suppress, or weaponize that knowledge1....

The Immense Power of Scientific Discovery

Science, particularly physics, is described as yielding the most power in society14. New ideas in physics change the balance of power in the world, and physics is considered the only thing that will secure humanity's future2....

Key moments and examples illustrate this immense leverage:

• Nuclear and Biological Levers (1952-1953): A six-month period between late 1952 and early 1953 saw the unlocking of the power of the nucleus (fusion of hydrogen for the hydrogen bomb) and the determination of the three-dimensional structure of nucleic acid (double helix), granting humanity access to the two most powerful levers perhaps ever available7.

• Biological Warfare Potential: The insertion of a four amino acid sequence (12 nucleotides) into a spike protein resulted in an effect strong enough to shut down planet Earth for a couple of years (COVID)8. This kind of leverage is considered extremely powerful8. AlphaFold 3, by figuring out protein folding, created a discovery that changed the balance of power, potentially leading to nano-bots or targeted attacks on enemies39.

• The Neutron and Nuclear Weapons: The most dangerous thought ever conceived was possibly Ernest Rutherford’s idea in 1911 about a neutral version of the proton (the neutron), which eventually led to the chain reaction, the fission bomb, and subsequently, the fusion bomb, achieved by focusing light (gamma radiation) from an atomic blast to compress hydrogen10....

• Digital and Computational Power: The 2017 white paper "Attention is all you need" opened up AI and Large Language Models (LLMs)8. Linear algebra, through AI, can generate beautiful music, animate photos of deceased relatives, or create things indistinguishable from a human being, demonstrating the "most amazing powerful crazy stuff possible"413.

These highly leveraged ideas have made humanity powerful beyond any previous world, but without an attendant increase in wisdom to wield these things14.

The Control and Suppression of Scientists

Despite the recognized power of science, the desire of governments is twofold: to gain as much power as possible from science, and simultaneously to "castrate the scientists, belittle them, destroy their families, their lives, their ability to earn"215. This suppression stems from the fact that scientists are not trusted because they are the most powerful people in society14. The ultimate effect is that the world’s most important group—physicists—is being stopped from making progress516.

Mechanisms used to control and hide scientific advancements include:

1. Restricted Data and Loss of Free Speech: There is a special doctrine called restricted data which dictates that physicists do not have free speech5.... It is illegal for a physicist to write down anything related to nuclear weapons, even if they have no connection to the government, potentially violating the 1917 Espionage Act17.

2. Born Secret Doctrine: If a physicist creates Q clearance data "out of your own head" as a byproduct of trying to do physics, they are actually potentially committing a capital offense1719.

3. Government Structures: The Department of Energy is seen as masking the Department of Physics, which in turn masks the department responsible for nuclear weapons1220.

4. Targeting and Destruction of Individuals: Those who stumble upon hidden truths or trip over secrets are often targeted by the intelligence community for "personal destruction, reputational destruction, mental destruction economic destruction" because the government is not capable of keeping its own secrets1521.

It is argued that this environment led many scientists to spend their lives pretending to do physics and to retire without ever having actually done any real work, with some top theoretical physicists openly professing that they only care about mathematics, not the physical world13.

Elite Networks and Managed Reality

The source suggests that science is operating within a framework of "managed reality," where powerful, often opaque, networks exert control20.

• Jeffrey Epstein and Robert Maxwell: Jeffrey Epstein is described as a "construct" of the intelligence community (CIA, FBI, etc.)1.... He was not a standard financier; that was a cover story124. Epstein was deeply connected to science, having hosted a gravity conference and knowing tremendous amounts about the scientific work of others2425. He was believed to be running multiple programs, including one to keep a "periscope" on everything interesting in science2226.

• Controlling Publishing: Robert Maxwell, Epstein's girlfriend's father, was allegedly involved in controlling science through scientific publishing (e.g., Pergamon Press)26. This control mechanism was potentially used to ensure revolutionary discoveries occurred within a specific framework, preventing the nightmare scenario of someone posting a highly dangerous idea (like weaponized anthrax or the neutral proton concept) publicly2728.

The consensus among the confused population is that these people are either trolls or conspiracy theorists, a consequence of "covert influence operations"2129. The existence of terms like "pre-bunked malinformation" (destroying truth-tellers who are sharing real information deleterious to existing narratives) further highlights the attempt to manage public perception and control information30.

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Discuss Apocalypse and Future.

The discussion of the Apocalypse and the Future, according to the sources, focuses on the belief that the world is currently experiencing a rapid disintegration of the established order due to uncontrolled technological power and a lack of collective wisdom1....

The Present Apocalypse

The speaker argues that the world is currently witnessing the beginning of the end, or the "slow roll out of a completely different world"4. He suggests that humanity is "becoming a nerd to the apocalypse"5 and that the time of global stability ("stasis where very little happened over very long periods of time") is over36.

Key elements characterizing this apocalyptic moment include:

• Undoing of the Post-World War II Order: The belief that the post-World War II order is still in place is described as "astounding"3. Current global turmoil, such as watching "hypersonic missiles slam into a modern city on TV"57 and the conflict between the US, Israel, and the Persians (Iran)58, signals the "start of the undoing" of that order3. The disintegration of NATO is also mentioned9.

• The Singularity: The speaker asserts that "you're in" the singularity—the much-discussed period of rapid technological acceleration9.

• Technological Leverage without Wisdom: The critical danger stems from humanity gaining access to immensely powerful "levers and tools" without an "attendant increase in our wisdom in our ability to use and wield these things"2. These high-leverage technologies include:

    ◦ Nuclear/Fusion Devices: The harnessing of the nucleus through hydrogen fusion (the hydrogen bomb) is one of the two most powerful levers humanity has ever had10. Fusion devices operate on completely different scales than the fission bombs used in 1945, and the world is awaiting their "first use in war"11. Nine or ten countries currently possess the ability to "basically wipe out all of us at any moment"7.

    ◦ Bioweapons: The power of biology is evident in how a tiny alteration (a four amino acid sequence in spike protein) was potent enough to "shut down planet earth for a couple of years"11.

    ◦ AI and Warfare: Recent breakthroughs like the 2017 paper "attention is all you need"11 and the development of digital conservation laws (Bitcoin)2 grant power "beyond any previous world"2. Drone warfare, viewed in first-person perspective (FPV), is also identified as a new and unsettling face of conflict24.

    ◦ Protein Folding: The discovery of AlphaFold 3 (which figured out how a linear sequence of amino acids folds into a three-dimensional protein structure) is a revolutionary change in the balance of power, potentially leading to targeted nano-robots12....

Securing a Future

The path forward requires "something utterly remarkable" because current trends are not favorable15. The speaker emphasizes two main avenues for survival: radical scientific progress and societal grounding.

1. The Physics Solution (Getting to Another Sphere)

The primary physical constraint leading to the apocalypse is that "we share one atmosphere"—all of humanity's "eggs are in one basket"115. The risk of a global catastrophe (whether from pathogens, climate, or radiation) is contained by a single boundary15.

• Necessity of Colonization: The speaker agrees with Elon Musk that "we got to get to another sphere"116. He views Earth not as our "home," but as our "womb," and it is "time to be born"16. The speaker finds this notion "completely obvious"16.

• The Role of Physics: Although Musk is a "total hero when it comes to engineering," the speaker criticizes his neglect of science, asserting that "you can't engineer your way to the stars with the science we have"117. Physics is "the only thing that's going to get your future"1518. The speaker urges Musk to devote "a couple billion towards physics for God's sakes"1619.

• Stagnation and Secrets: Progress in physics is currently stagnant because new ideas that could change the balance of power are suppressed1420. The speaker notes that the US government seeks to get power from science but then "castrate the scientists, belittle them, destroy their families"1. Physicists are the only occupation in the country that does not have full free speech, operating under doctrines like restricted data18....

• A New Theory of Reality: The speaker’s own theoretical work might provide a key to the future, as it proposes a hidden world with dimensions beyond the four we perceive (depth, width, height, and time)2425. This theory suggests "so many new forces so many new particles" and eliminates the "arrow of time," implying the possibility of theoretically living forever2627.

2. Societal and Spiritual Solutions

To survive, society must also address its lack of meaning and its abandonment of necessary social structures:

• The Need for Religion/Tradition: The speaker, while an atheist, believes humanity is "not meant to live without" religion2829. Religion provides essential protective systems, such as bridging the proximate (thirst) with the ultimate (need for nourishment), and prevents society from collapsing when everyone turns life into a "hoot"2930. He suggests embracing Christianity’s tradition, even without belief, because modern society relies on a "Christian substrate"631.

• Focus on Family and Legacy: The collapse of "superstructures of the world," such as family and tradition, is a major concern32. The desire to have children is fundamental, as it connects people to the future and gives life meaning32.... People currently lack concern for their legacy because they "don't see a future"32.

• Wielding the Present Crisis: The speaker suggests that the current global tension might force a necessary course correction: "We either scare the crap out of ourselves and come to our senses or we don't"3.

The Path Forward

The speaker encourages listeners to get "flexible" and "good" at thinking across disciplines, as many established occupations are "over"35. He urges people to dream big about legacy, not feel embarrassed about wanting to "conquer the world or leave a permanent stain," and escape the current focus on "narcissism and drama"34. He concludes that the ultimate inspiration is to figure out the "infinity of space" and recognize that we are "stuck here" when we could be exploring the cosmos1936.

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Discuss AI and Technology.

The discussion of AI and Technology, according to Eric Weinstein, centers on the incredible and sudden leverage these tools provide humanity, contrasting the dizzying pace of change with a perceived stagnation in societal wisdom and the deliberate suppression of critical scientific advancement.

The Power and Peril of Modern Technology

Weinstein argues that humanity now has access to levers and tools that are so powerful that we are beyond any previous world, yet this power comes with no attendant increase in our wisdom or ability to wield these things effectively12. This situation contributes to the feeling that we are witnessing the "apocalypse" or the "end of the world in real time"3....

Examples of this new power include:

• Bioweapon Leverage: The insertion of a four amino acid sequence (12 nucleotides) into a spike protein, potentially originating from a bioweapons program, was powerful enough to shut down planet Earth for a couple of years (referencing COVID)1.

• Modern Warfare: The world is currently witnessing the unveiling of new, highly potent forms of conflict, such as hypersonic missiles slamming into population centers and FPV (first-person view) drone warfare, where mechanical flying birds equipped to kill menace individuals2....

• Digital Gold: The solution to the distributed double spend problem by Satoshi in 2008-2009 effectively ported conservation laws from the physical world into the digital realm, creating digital gold2.

Artificial Intelligence (AI) and LLMs

The foundation of the current AI revolution is traced back to the 2017 white paper, "Attention is All You Need," which fundamentally changed the landscape for AI and Large Language Models (LLMs)1.

Weinstein makes several strong claims regarding AI:

1. Human Repetitiveness: He suggests that a large portion of human behavior and conversation is scripted, leading to the disturbing realization that "more or less we're LLMs" and "don't do a single intelligent thing all day long"67. This means that the ability of AI to mimic humans is high because humans often operate like automated responses6.

2. Repetitive Tasks on the Chopping Block: It is not necessary to wait for AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) for major societal disruption. Since almost everything humans do is repetitive, everything we do is "on the chopping block." AI, trained on large corpuses of data (tokens), will automate repetitive behaviors, such as those performed by radiologists89.

3. Limitations of LLMs: AI struggles when there is insufficient data, such as with "orphan proteins" that have no analog elsewhere. The system cannot learn or train effectively without a large corpus of repetitive data810.

4. Power of Linear Algebra: AI's capability is enormous, driven by concepts like linear algebra. This mathematical framework can create things that are indistinguishable from human outputs, such as beautiful music or animated videos of dead relatives11.

The Role of AlphaFold and Scientific Discovery

A technological advance that fundamentally changes the global balance of power is the discovery of AlphaFold 3, which is capable of solving the complex protein folding problem12....

• Protein Folding: AlphaFold figured out how a linear sequence of nucleic acids (DNA/RNA) codes for and crumples into specific, functional three-dimensional protein structures1315.

• Implications: This breakthrough means that scientists can potentially design things like nano-robots or proteins that specifically target enemies by attaching to particular regions on cell surfaces13.

Scientific Stagnation and Control

Despite the massive advances in AI and biotechnology, Weinstein contends that scientific progress in core areas like physics has been artificially constrained, largely due to national security concerns related to prior dangerous discoveries1617.

1. The Stagnation of Physics: Physics is facing a problem of stagnation, particularly since 1973, because there have been no new, exciting ideas about how to change the Lagrangian (the mathematical object that generates the different configurations and laws of physics)18. Weinstein asserts that new ideas in physics change the balance of power in the world, which is why the field is scrutinized14. Physics is the only thing that is going to get humanity a future by enabling us to escape our single-sphere existence1619.

2. The Danger of Ideas (The Nuclear Precedent): The idea that led to the atomic age, and consequently the restriction of physics, was Rutherford’s 1911 thought: "I wonder whether there's a neutral version of the proton" (the neutron)2021. This single idea made it possible to send a neutral projectile into an atom's nucleus, leading to the nuclear chain reaction, the fission bomb, and ultimately the hydrogen/fusion bomb2223. This chain of ideas is considered the "most dangerous thing anybody's ever thought"24.

3. Suppression of Free Speech and Secrecy: Because of this threat, physicists are the only occupation in the country that does not have full free speech1625.

• Restricted Data: There is a special doctrine called Restricted Data which states it is illegal to write physics on a napkin if it could possibly relate to nuclear weapons, regardless of whether the individual works for the government26.

• Born Secret: The doctrine of "born secret" means that if a person creates Q clearance data out of their own head while pursuing physics, they are potentially committing a capital offense under the 1917 Espionage Act and the 1946 and 1954 Atomic Energy Acts21....

• Department of Physics: The Department of Energy is essentially masking the Department of Physics and the department of nuclear weapons24.

• Controlling Revolutionary Discoveries: Weinstein suggests that scientific publishing structures (like those associated with Robert Maxwell) may have been created to act as control mechanisms, ensuring that revolutionary discoveries happen within a managed framework28....

Technology and the Cosmos

Weinstein stresses that the only solution to humanity's problems—sharing one atmosphere with threats like pathogens, climate, and radiation—is to get to another sphere1931. While Elon Musk is lauded as a hero for engineering toward space, he is criticized for being inadequate when it comes to science, since current science is insufficient to "engineer your way to the stars"332.

Weinstein discusses his own theory of reality, suggesting the existence of hidden dimensions beyond the known four (three spatial, one time), potentially totaling six edges and four vertices (10 dimensions implicit in Einstein's field equations)3334. These theories could mean that time is not one-dimensional (or linear like a cassette tape), potentially allowing for travel through time without going back through every moment in reverse3536. The crucial concern is that he does not know what these ideas will lead to, echoing the "baffled king composing Hallelujah" who does not realize he is composing the end of the human race21.

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Discuss World Order Instability.

The world order is currently characterized by profound instability, viewed as the "start of the undoing of the post-World War II order" and the beginning of a "slow roll out of a completely different world"12. The established order, which was artificially stagnant for decades, is now disintegrating rapidly due to high-leverage technological power colliding with a lack of collective wisdom and competence among global leaders1....

Symptoms and Evidence of Instability

The current global situation is described as extremely tense and dramatic, suggesting that humanity is "becoming a nerd to the apocalypse"6. Key signs of this instability include:

• Geopolitical Conflict and Escalation: There is heightened, aggressive military action, such as watching hypersonic missiles slam into a modern city26. The world is witnessing significant confrontations, including the Persians (Iran) taking "direct hits from both Israel and the US"6. The era of "stasis where very little happened over very long periods of time is over"2.

• Disintegration of Established Alliances: The sources point to the "disintegration of NATO" and a realization that people lack the ability to "maintain the systems that were engineered by their great-grandparents after World War II"4.

• Nuclear Proliferation and Threat: The world is under a weird, hanging nuclear threat7. Several countries are nuclear or near-nuclear, including Russia, Israel (presumably), Pakistan, India, the US, and the UK, while Iran is "almost nuclear"58. This means that nine or ten countries have the ability to wipe out all of us at any moment, often resting on "one individual's decision"79.

• The Post-WWII Order Collapsing: The order established after World War II is compared to "control rods keeping the world from going super critical", and those control rods are now coming undone510.

Underlying Causes of Instability

The core driver of this instability is the mismatch between human wisdom and the powerful tools provided by science and technology3.

1. High-Leverage Ideas Without Wisdom: Humanity has gained access to "two most powerful levers" ever—the power of the nucleus (fusion) and the structure of nucleic acid (double helix)—and recent advances in AI have also introduced high-leverage tools3.... However, this power has arrived "with no attendant increase in our wisdom in our ability to use and wield these things"3.

2. Unleashed Warfare Technologies: The world is now "unveiling" what drone warfare and hypersonic missiles look like in real time13. This shift in military capability is highly destabilizing13.

3. Breakdown of Leadership and Governance: The state of current leadership globally is questioned, with examples cited in the US and UK elections5. There is a sense that the current leaders do not know how to manage the systems or maintain the global stability achieved during the stagnant period45.

4. Failure to Own History: The US and the UK are criticized for the long-term consequences of their actions abroad, particularly in the Middle East, such as the overthrow of a democratically elected leader in Iran (Operation Ajax) leading to the installation of the Mullers12.... This failure to take responsibility for past destabilizing actions is ongoing1416.

The Role of Technology and AI in Disruption

Technology is fundamentally changing the nature of society and the economy, contributing to the feeling of disintegration:

• AI and Societal Structure: AI and Large Language Models (LLMs) are already causing disruption1718. Since "almost everything we do is repetitive," AI will automate away vast swaths of jobs, transforming the economy long before the theoretical arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)1920.

• The Power of Biology (AlphaFold 3): Advances like AlphaFold 3 (figuring out protein folding) are considered a discovery that "changed the balance of power in the world," potentially enabling the targeting of enemies or the creation of nano-bots21....

• Hybrid Warfare: Modern conflict relies less on kinetic components (killing, bombs) and more on the "social media," "video," and the "mimedic complex"24. The manipulation of narratives and public perception, such as the videos emerging from Gaza, is a key component of hybrid warfare, further complicating global understanding and stability24.

The Need for Action

The sources repeatedly stress that the current order is coming undone, necessitating drastic, remarkable action to secure a future225. The two potential outcomes are: "We either scare the crap out of ourselves and come to our senses or we don't"2. This includes an urgent need for revolutionary physics to facilitate reaching another sphere, as humanity's eggs are all in "one basket" with one atmosphere25....

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1. The Unraveling of the Global Order: "The End Man"

Weinstein argues that the period of relative global stability experienced for decades was an "artificially stagnant bubble" and that humanity is now witnessing its violent collapse. He describes the current era as "the end man" and "the singularity," asserting that the established post-World War II order is actively disintegrating.

"You're looking at the end man. This is the beginning this is a slow roll out of a completely different world. You've been in We've all been in a completely artificially stagnant bubble for decades."

Key Indicators of Collapse

• Advanced Warfare: The public is now seeing the first applications of previously theoretical military technologies, such as hypersonic missiles striking modern cities and first-person-view (FPV) drone warfare.

• Geopolitical Super-Criticality: The world has moved from a tense but stable bipolar Cold War structure to a multipolar, highly unstable environment. Numerous states are nuclear powers (US, Russia, UK, France, Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea) or on the verge (Iran), with simmering conflicts creating a volatile global situation. He notes, "The World War II order was keeping it it's like control rods keeping the world from going super critical."

• Hybrid Warfare Doctrine: Modern conflict is no longer primarily kinetic (physical fighting). The primary battleground is narrative, social media, and video. He posits that the leader of Hamas, Yahya Sinwar, engineered the October 7th attack as an "IDF assisted suicide" to provoke an Israeli response that would generate video footage designed to turn global opinion against Israel.

2. The Calculated Stagnation of Foundational Physics

A central thesis in Weinstein's analysis is that progress in fundamental physics has been deliberately halted by governmental forces who fear its world-altering potential. He contends that physics is the single most important field for the future of humanity.

Physics as the Key to Survival

• The One-Basket Problem: All of humanity's existential risks—nuclear war, pandemics, climate change—are contained within a single shared atmosphere on one planet.

• The Only Solution: Echoing Elon Musk's goal, Weinstein believes becoming a multi-planetary species is the only long-term solution. However, he criticizes Musk for being a "total hero when it comes to engineering" but a "complete pussy when it comes to science," arguing: "You can't engineer your way to the stars with the science we have." New physics is required.

The Suppression of Scientific Progress

• Stagnation Since 1973: Weinstein states that physics has seen no fundamental progress (in terms of changing "the Lagrangian," the core mathematical object describing a physical system) since 1973.

• Loss of Free Speech: He claims physicists are the "only occupation in the country that doesn't have full free speech." A doctrine of "restricted data," rooted in the Atomic Energy Acts of 1946 and 1954, makes it a potential capital offense to independently discover and discuss physics that could relate to nuclear weapons.

• The Rationale for Suppression: A new idea in physics can fundamentally change the global balance of power. He cites Ernest Rutherford's 1911 speculation about a "neutral version of the proton" (the neutron) as "the most dangerous thought anyone has ever had," as it led directly to the chain reaction and the atomic bomb. Governments, unable to keep secrets, prefer to "castrate the scientists" and halt progress rather than manage its consequences.

• Weinstein's Own Theory: He alludes to his own theory of geometric unity, which proposes a 14-dimensional reality and a non-linear arrow of time, suggesting such revolutionary ideas are actively ignored or suppressed by the establishment.

3. High-Leverage Ideas and the True Impact of AI

Weinstein identifies several "high-leverage" ideas that have dramatically increased humanity's power without a corresponding increase in wisdom. Artificial Intelligence is the latest and one of the most significant.

• Power Without Wisdom: He points to discoveries like nuclear fusion, the DNA double helix, the Bitcoin whitepaper ("solution to the distributed double spend problem"), and the 2017 paper "Attention is All You Need" as transformative concepts that grant immense power from a small conceptual seed.

• The AI Misdirection: The popular focus on the arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is an "LLM-programmed" distraction. The real, immediate revolution is already happening with technologies like AlphaFold 3, which solved the protein folding problem, unlocking unprecedented capabilities in biology and materials science.

• The Automation of Repetitive Behavior: The primary impact of current AI will be the automation of any task that is repetitive. Since most human activity, including conversation, is highly repetitive and scripted, he asserts "almost everything we do is on the chopping block." He argues that humans operate as Large Language Models ("LLMs") for the most part, with true intelligence being a "last resort."

• Human Value in a Post-AI World: Following the "cyborg chess" era, where humans and AI collaborate, AI will eventually deem human input a hindrance. The remaining value for humans will be in non-repetitive, creative endeavors and in roles where human presence is intrinsically valued (e.g., watching two humans compete in chess, even though a phone can beat both).

4. Societal Decay: The Crisis of Meaning and Superstructure

Weinstein diagnoses a deep spiritual and structural crisis in modern Western society, stemming from a detachment from foundational traditions.

• "Unhooking" from Superstructures: Society is actively dismantling its core superstructures: family, tradition, religion, and legacy. He attributes this to becoming "too sophisticated," with too much information deranging natural instincts (e.g., calculating the opportunity cost of not being on OnlyFans).

• The Instrumental Role of Religion: As a self-described atheist who takes religion "super seriously," Weinstein argues, "I don't think we're meant to live without it." He compares religion to the feeling of air hunger—a proximate trigger that protects us from the ultimate danger of oxygen deprivation. Religion provides a necessary framework that prevents society from devolving into a hedonistic "hoot" that leads to collapse.

• The Fallacy of Optimization: The modern obsession with optimizing every aspect of life (health, productivity, social media) is a trap. Once optimized, the question becomes, "Now what?" He argues that profound meaning is readily available in simple, accessible experiences like family, music (Pablo Casals' Bach Cello Suites), and even tropical fruit (Rambutan), which are often overlooked in the quest for optimization.

5. Managed Reality: Intelligence Operations and Covert Control

A significant portion of Weinstein's worldview involves the belief that society operates within a "managed reality," where key events and narratives are shaped by covert intelligence operations targeting their own citizens.

• The Jeffrey Epstein Construct: Weinstein, who met Epstein, is adamant that he was not a financier but a "construct" created by an intelligence agency. He states this was a multi-purpose operation, with one function being to act as a "periscope on everything that was interesting," particularly science. Epstein's "Confronting Gravity" conference and connections to the Harvard math department were part of this scientific monitoring mission.

• The UFO/UAP Deception: He asserts with certainty that the U.S. government operates, at a minimum, a fake UFO program. The purpose is strategic deception: to provide a cover story for advanced terrestrial aerospace technology (like the B-2 bomber before it was public) or to mislead adversaries into wasting resources on non-existent technologies like anti-gravity.

• Mechanisms of Control: The system maintains control through specific tactics:

    ◦ "Human Terrain": Viewing influential people and platforms as strategic assets to be captured or neutralized.

    ◦ "Pre-bunking Malinformation": A strategy to discredit "truth tellers" and inconvenient facts before they can gain traction.

    ◦ Covert Influence Operations: Using networks of online accounts and media liaisons to destroy the reputations of individuals who get too close to sensitive topics, branding them as "conspiracy theorists."

6. Geopolitical Analysis: The Middle East and Global Responsibility

Weinstein provides a detailed and unconventional analysis of the conflict in the Middle East, framing it as a direct consequence of historical Western actions.

The Schlamile, Schlamazle, and Neb Analogy

He uses a Yiddish analogy to describe the roles of different actors in the region's turmoil.

Role

Yiddish Term

Description

Actor in the Middle East Conflict

The Klutz

Schlamile

The one who spills the scalding hot soup.

The US and UK, for overthrowing the democratically elected government in Iran (Operation Ajax), which led to the rise of the "mullas" (theocratic rulers).

The Unfortunate One

Schlamazle

The one who gets the hot soup spilled on them.

The entire Middle East (Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Israel), which suffers from the presence and influence of theocratic Iran.

The Cleaner

Neb

The weak person who tries to clean up the mess.

Israel, which volunteers for the job of confronting Iran, while other nations (like Saudi Arabia) publicly condemn the action but may privately welcome it.

Core Arguments

• US/UK Culpability: The West is directly responsible for creating the modern theocratic Iranian regime and for fueling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by pushing a two-state solution he claims Palestinian Arabs "absolutely do not want."

• Iran's Strategic Messaging: Iran's hypersonic missile attack on Israel was not a failure but a calculated message. By intentionally missing targets and striking the ground, they demonstrated a capability that bypasses the Iron Dome, speaking "the language of violence in a very measured fashion."

• The Path Forward: A solution requires the Persian people to rise up against the mullas, modernizers like Saudi Arabia's MBS to step forward, and the US to "take ownership of our history" and responsibly manage the crises it helped create rather than retreating into isolationism.

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I. Title: “You’re Watching the End of the World in Real Time – Eric Weinstein” Author: Eric Weinstein

Eric Weinstein is a renowned mathematician and one of the most fearless and provocative thinkers of our time.

He dissects the failures of science, exposes elite networks, and proposes bold new theories that could save humanity.

II. The current global situation represents the start of a drastic shift and the end of the recent era of artificial stasis.

You're looking at the end, man.

My entire life up until now has been in a bubble.

III. Humanity faces an existential risk because all global systems are confined to one shared environment.

All of humanity's eggs are in one basket so what needs to happen to get me a future.

Everything that you care about is on one sphere with one atmosphere.

IV. Escaping Earth requires relocation to another sphere, but current science is insufficient to achieve true stellar travel.

Elon is 100% right, got to get to another sphere.

He's being a complete pussy when it comes to science and he's being a total hero when it comes to engineering.

V. Scientific progress, particularly in physics, is being actively hindered, despite being critical for securing a viable future.

Physics is the only thing that's going to get your future.

They're stopping the world's most important group from making progress.

VI. The emergence of a new idea in physics fundamentally alters the distribution of power globally.

A new idea in physics changes the balance of power in the world.

These ideas that have such high leverage are making us powerful beyond any previous world with no attendant increase in our wisdom in our ability to use and wield these things.

VII. The period between November 1952 and April 1953 unlocked the two most powerful levers humanity has ever had: fusion and the double helix.

The hydrogen bomb is not something that has ever been used by anyone against an enemy.

Suddenly in in no time flat we had access to the two most powerful levers humanity has ever had perhaps ever will.

VIII. Advances in biological understanding and manipulation have demonstrated terrifying leverage over global systems.

The key ingredient that made COVID so unique was a four amino acid sequence inserted into spike protein.

That's 12 nucleotides coding for four amino acids shut down planet earth for a couple of years that's how powerful this is.

IX. The world is witnessing the beginning of FPV (First Person View) drone warfare and the use of hypersonic missiles against population centers.

Right now you're seeing the face where we're unveiling what does drone warfare look like in FPV.

We just watched hypersonic missiles flam into a modern city on TV.

X. The current global instability marks the start of the undoing of the entire post-World War II order.

The era of stasis where very little happened over very long periods of time is over.

You're looking at the disintegration of NATO.

XI. Despite the constant nuclear threat, people may lack an embodied understanding of the danger.

There's these nine or 10 countries around the world that have the ability to basically wipe out all of us at any moment.

I don't know if we're able to distinguish whether we know it in our head or whether it's embodied unconsciously to the point that it's changing how we act.

XII. Society is collapsing because it is unhooking itself from protective superstructures like religion and family.

I don't think we're meant to live without it.

We're deranging ourselves, we're having a blast and we're completely undoing all of the superructure of the world.

XIII. The societal indifference toward leaving a legacy is a symptom of people not believing there is a future.

It is so weird that no one cares about their legacy because they don't see a future.

I'm desperate to get you a future so that you care.

XIV. A significant portion of everyday human conversation and interaction is merely scripted behavior resembling Large Language Models (LLMs).

My claim is is that that's the really disturbing part that more or less we're LLMs.

The reason that they're able to mimic us is because we don't realize that intelligence is a last resort for us.

XV. Focusing attention on the potential arrival of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) distracts from threats posed by existing powerful technologies.

I think that waiting for AGI as the problem is a is a bad idea.

The funny part is is that's your LLM that got programmed to wait for AGI.

XVI. AlphaFold 3 represents an immense breakthrough in determining three-dimensional protein structures from linear sequences.

Humans were stuck there and what does that mean it means that you could I don't know you could target your enemies that have particular regions on their cell surfaces.

Alpha Fold 3 changed the balance of power in the world.

XVII. AI will radically transform the economy by automating nearly all repetitive tasks currently performed by humans.

Everything that we we know how to do through education creates repetitive behaviors.

It's going to start to automate away every repetitive behavior and then what's going to be left is the tiny number of things that aren't really highly repetitive.

XVIII. AI struggles with areas that lack large corpuses of repetitive data, such as creativity and unique biological phenomena.

We don't know how to educate for creativity and genius.

What it's bad at things that where there isn't much data so I I just I just found out about these orphan proteins where like everybody's got a different version of hemoglobin.

XIX. Due to rapid technological and societal changes, people must prioritize flexibility and cross-disciplinary thinking to survive.

Every place is over.

Whatever is coming get flexible get good get good on a bunch of different stuff learn how to think across disciplines.

XX. The pursuit of optimization often overshadows the basic, available sources of meaning and happiness, particularly raising a family.

You've optimized your day you've optimized your health your social media is optimized now what.

I still think having kids was like unbeatable.

XXI. The conflict between the Jews and the Persians is painful because both are among the world's most cherished civilizations.

I care about certain certain cultures that I know well more than others and these are two of my absolute favorites.

This is incredibly dramatic if if you think about you know just the idea of the Jews and the Persians are both still here.

XXII. The war in Gaza was designed by Sinwar as a brilliant act of hybrid warfare focused on maximizing video impact rather than kinetic gains.

Sinoir was a genius.

The video of Gaza has turned the world to an extent against Israel that's sort of inconceivable.

XXIII. The US and UK are responsible for the destabilization of the Middle East, specifically through Operation Ajax which installed the Shah and led to the current regime in Iran.

We have to take ownership of our history with oil and energy in the Middle East.

We did that so the scalding hot soup is revolutionary theocratic Iran and we spilled it all over the Middle East which is the schlamazle.

XXIV. For immediate stability, the goal should be a cold, functional peace rather than waiting for ideal reconciliation.

The peace with between Egypt and Israel is a shitty crappy horrible peace but it's peace.

We need to have peace between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs who can live in peace and we need the people who cannot live in peace we need to find someplace else for them to be.

XXV. Donald Trump's strategic behavior, including non-disclosure of plans, is characteristic of a high-stakes negotiator.

He's a negotiator.

His intuition is that negotiation is more important than transparency and at a time when everybody's craving transparency tell me everything no I'm not going to tell you everything.

XXVI. Physics progress has effectively stopped since 1973, evidenced by the lack of new, exciting ideas regarding the Lagrangian (the core structure of a theory).

The major thing that we have is we have no new ideas about how to change the lrangeian that anybody finds that exciting or interesting.

Nobody goes to Stockholm to get a Nobel Prize because they changed the lrangeian of the world.

XXVII. Ernest Rutherford’s 1911 thought about the existence of a neutral version of the proton (the neutron) led directly to the chain of ideas that produced the nuclear bomb.

The entire chain of ideas results in nuclear fusion happening on Earth at the direction of the president of the United States.

That chain of ideas was the most dangerous thing anybody's ever thought.

XXVIII. Physicists in the US do not possess full free speech due to doctrines like Restricted Data and the Atomic Energy Acts.

There's a doctrine that says physicists don't have free speech.

It is illegal to pursue Q clearance data if you don't have a Q clearance but if you're creating Q clearance data out of your own head as a byproduct of trying to do physics you are actually potentially committing a capital offense.

XXIX. The speaker's theory of reality suggests that Einstein’s ten field equations implicitly contain dimensions beyond the standard four (spacetime).

My point being these dimensions are already here and because the dimensions are already here they were already present in Einstein's theory all along.

We just didn't take them seriously as directions you could go in.

XXX. A theoretical possibility exists to swap the roles of time and space dimensions, leading to a universe with three time dimensions and one space dimension.

If I flip all of the dimensions of time and space so I have one of time three of space in Einstein's theory okay.

The one space dimension would take the function of time and the three time dimensions would have the function of space.

XXXI. The US government has admitted to faking UFO/UAP programs, using them as deception and distraction techniques.

We had this admission recently that the government knew that at a minimum and again I don't think this is by anywhere close to the full story at a minimum there were secret fake special access programs.

Wouldn't it be better if we had a UFO story ready to go when we had cool aerospace oh okay.

XXXII. Jeffrey Epstein was likely a "construct" of intelligence elements, serving to monitor or influence science and other domains.

Jeffrey Epstein was a product of at least one element of the intelligence community i would bet money on it the CIA FBI i don't know who ran him.

This person is not who they claim to be somebody has constructed this human being to be something that they are not.

XXXIII. Society operates in a state of "managed reality," where narratives and events are controlled by powerful, interconnected networks.

We live in managed reality.

This whole network is the is what I've called managed reality.

XXXIV. The intelligence community often destroys its own best people who inadvertently expose sensitive information, demonstrating an inability to keep its own secrets.

The desire of our government to destroy people who have no idea what they've tripped over because our government isn't good enough to keep its own secrets this is an abomination.

We take our best people and we make fun of them and we belittle them and we destroy their families their lives their ability to earn.

XXXV. "Prebunked malinformation" is a technique used to proactively discredit truthful information that conflicts with preferred narratives.

Malinformation is information we don't want to get out technically people try to pretend that it's information that will be misinterpreted but really it's real stuff that is delotterious to the narratives that we're trying to push forward.

Prebunked means discredited so we know what debunked we have to debunk disinformation we get that but you didn't know that we had to prebunk malinformation which is we have to destroy truth tellers.

XXXVI. Science is society's most powerful force, yet enormous resources are spent convincing people and scientists themselves that scientists are worthless.

Science is the most amazing powerful crazy stuff possible.

We spend a fortune trying to convince people that scientists are worthless that scientists are incapable and in large measure they've convinced the scientists themselves.

XXXVII. The modern concept of peer review is a myth, originating from the need for self-regulation in the medical field following the 1965 Medicare act.

Peer review is this fake thing that supposedly stretches back to the founding of the Royal Society and it's very clear from the scholarship around it that it comes out of n period between 1965 and 1975.

Peer review is a myth the scholarship is clear as day.

XXXVIII. People should seek meaning by embracing family, culture, music, and the natural universe, and dreaming big about legacy.

I still think having kids was like unbeatable.

Try to keep this thing going try to keep this thing going try to dream big about legacy.

The Unraveling Order: Navigating Existential Risk, Scientific Suppression, and the Path to Multi-Sphere Existence

A Strategic Assessment Report

Prepared for: Global Policy Makers and Thought Leaders Date: October 2023 (Based on Source Material) Author: Analytical Synthesis Group

Page 1: Executive Summary

The world is currently experiencing the slow rollout of a completely different world, marking the disintegration of the post-World War II order. Humanity faces an immediate and accelerating existential crisis defined by technological leverage surpassing wisdom, pervasive geopolitical instability, and a fundamental failure to advance critical areas of science.

Key Findings:

1. Systemic Instability: We are witnessing the end of an era of artificial stagnation. Modern warfare (e.g., hypersonic missiles, hybrid war tactics) is escalating tensions beyond Cold War levels. The threat of thermonuclear conflict (fusion devices) remains unused but ever-present.

2. Scientific Suppression: Fundamental physics is controlled and stagnant. New ideas that shift the global balance of power are actively suppressed by the security state through mechanisms like the "Restricted Data" doctrine and the 1917 Espionage Act, effectively denying physicists free speech.

3. Covert Influence & Managed Reality: The current geopolitical and intellectual landscape operates within a "managed reality". Entities linked to the intelligence community, such as Jeffrey Epstein (described as a "construct"), have been used to monitor and potentially control scientific breakthroughs and personnel.

4. Technological Leap: High-leverage technologies like advanced AI (e.g., AlphaFold 3, LLMs) are already here. These technologies will automate virtually all repetitive human tasks, requiring individuals to be highly flexible and cross-disciplinary to survive the economic "tsunami".

5. Societal Decoupling: Western society is suffering from the dissolution of core superstructures—particularly family, tradition, and transcendent meaning. This loss correlates directly with a diminished sense of legacy and future orientation.

Strategic Recommendations (The Path to a Future):

To navigate this crisis, humanity must pursue two immediate, interlocking objectives: Scientific Breakthrough and Geopolitical Stabilization, alongside a Societal Recalibration.

Objective

Key Action Items

Source Support

I. Scientific Breakthrough

1. Prioritize Physics: Invest massively in fundamental physics research to achieve a new "Lagrangian".

2. Achieve Multi-Sphere Existence (Escape): Recognize Earth (one atmosphere) as a "womb, not our home". Pursue interstellar capability, moving beyond reliance on current engineering and chemical rockets.

II. Geopolitical Stabilization

1. Recognize Responsibility: Acknowledge historical mistakes (e.g., US/UK role in Iran's theocratic government, forcing the two-state solution).

2. Enforce Cold Peace: Strive for immediate, stable, non-ideal peace (like the Egypt-Israel treaty) in flashpoints such as the Middle East, including removing individuals (both Israeli settlers and Palestinian Arabs) who actively refuse peace.

III. Societal Recalibration

1. Re-establish Superstructure: Encourage focus on family, tradition, and purpose. Embrace religious or spiritual structures for orientation, even without certain belief.

Page 2: Chapter 1: Global Systemic Crisis – The Unraveling Post-WWII Order

1.1 The End of Stagnation

The world is rapidly moving into a dramatically different era, having previously existed in an "artificially stagnant bubble for decades". Those under 32 years old, having missed the tension of the Cold War, often lack the historical perspective to judge the current intensity. The prevailing narrative of a dizzying pace of change persisted even during periods of relative stagnation.

The previous global order, established after World War II, functioned primarily to prevent the use of powerful emerging technologies. This order is now actively coming undone.

1.2 Escalation of Kinetic and Geopolitical Conflict

Current events signal the start of escalation and profound instability.

• Hypersonic Missile Use: The recent observation of hypersonic missiles slamming into a modern city (Tel Aviv) is an incredibly dramatic event that normalizes apocalyptic scenarios.

• Major Power Confrontations: The sight of one of the world's most remarkable civilizations, the Persians, taking direct hits from both Israel and the US is deeply unsettling.

• Erosion of Alliances: The disintegration of NATO is cited as a symptom of the collapsing order.

• Nuclear Proliferation: Multiple hostile nations possess nuclear capabilities (Russia, US, UK, France, Pakistan, India, Israel, North Korea) while Iran is "almost nuclear". This concentration of power—where the decision to use weapons rests potentially with a single individual in each country—creates an inherent, existential threat.

1.3 The Leveraged Threat: Technology vs. Wisdom

Humanity gained access to the two most powerful levers it may ever possess in a short, six-month period between November 1952 and April 1953: the power of the nucleus (fusion of hydrogen) and the structure of nucleic acid (the double helix).

Since then, the development of high-leverage tools has far outpaced societal wisdom and the ability to wield them responsibly.

Leveraged Technology

Impact and Scale

Source Support

Thermonuclear Devices

Fusion bombs operate on a completely different scale than fission devices (Hiroshima/Nagasaki). Their use would constitute a global extinction event.

Bio-leverage

A sequence of 12 nucleotides coding for four amino acids in a spike protein was powerful enough to shut down the entire planet for years (COVID-19).

Digital Leverage (AI/Crypto)

Discoveries like the 2017 "Attention is All You Need" paper revolutionized AI/LLMs, and Satoshi’s work (2008/2009) ported conservation laws into the digital world (digital gold).

Page 3: Chapter 2: The Stagnation and Suppression of Science

2.1 The Crisis in Physics

Physics is identified as the single most critical area for securing humanity's future. Yet, the field is currently in crisis due to stagnation and external control.

The standard metric for progress in physics is the change in the Lagrangian (the fundamental structure that generates all physical equations).

• Timeline of Stagnation: The Lagrangian stopped changing in 1973. There have been no new ideas in physics deemed exciting enough to merit a Nobel Prize for changing the Lagrangian.

• The Power Dynamic: A new idea in physics fundamentally alters the global balance of power. Governments, seeking maximal power from science, simultaneously suppress and "castrate" the scientists who create that power.

2.2 Government Control and the Restricted Data Doctrine

The US government employs extraordinary measures to prevent the free disclosure of physical discoveries, a level of control unique among occupations.

• Loss of Free Speech: There is a doctrine stipulating that physicists do not have free speech. This doctrine allows the government to casually link the 1917 Espionage Act with the Atomic Energy Acts of 1946 and 1954.

• Restricted Data and Born Secret: It is illegal to pursue data requiring a Q clearance without having one, but creating Q clearance data (new physics concepts) "out of your own head" potentially constitutes a capital offense under the doctrine of "Born Secret".

• Institutional Masking: The Department of Energy (DOE) is seen as a deliberate mask for the Department of Physics, designed to obscure its true historical origins and ongoing work related to atomic weaponry.

2.3 Covert Operations and the "Managed Reality"

The suppression of scientific progress is part of a larger, systemic effort to maintain a "managed reality". This system uses complex, secretive mechanisms to monitor and neutralize perceived threats from independent actors.

The Targeting of Scientists (The A-Team Destruction):

The security state's primary failure is its tendency to destroy its best and most brilliant people—those who stumble upon secrets unintentionally—because the government is not good enough to keep its own secrets. This destruction is often personal, reputational, and economic.

Case Study: Jeffrey Epstein as a Construct

Jeffrey Epstein was not a financier, which was merely a cover story. He is identified as a "construct" of at least one intelligence community element (CIA or FBI).

• Scientific Monitoring: Epstein had insider knowledge of the speaker's scientific work, far beyond what he should have known. He was deeply connected to the Harvard math department.

• The Gravity Conference: Epstein hosted the "Confronting Gravity" conference, bringing Nobel laureates and leading physicists to the Virgin Islands. This operation was likely designed as a "periscope" to keep tabs on potentially revolutionary scientific thought.

• Controlling the Narrative: This network, potentially linked to Robert Maxwell's influence over scientific publishing (Pergamont Press), was intended to control where "revolutionary discoveries were taking place" to prevent uncontrolled, high-leverage ideas from entering the public sphere (e.g., weaponized anthrax or ideas equivalent to the neutral proton).

Page 4: Chapter 3: Technological Accelerators and The Automation Tsunami

3.1 The Immediate Impact of AI (Beyond AGI)

The focus on Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) as the primary threat is identified as a distraction, or an "LLM expectation" programmed into the public discourse. The problems resulting from AI are already manifesting long before true AGI arrives.

The fundamental capability driving AI's revolutionary potential is its ability to learn from large corpuses of repetitive data (tokens).

• Automation of Repetitive Behavior: AI will automate away nearly all jobs reliant on repetitive tasks. This includes areas where repetitive behaviors are taught through education, such as radiology, accounting, dentistry, and potentially teaching.

• The Economic Tsunami: The coming disruption is likened to a "tsunami". People are advised that all named occupations are "over".

3.2 AlphaFold 3: A Paradigm Shift in Bio-Leverage

AlphaFold 3 represents a critical milestone in AI's capacity to change the balance of power.

• Protein Folding Solved: The discovery figured out how a linear sequence of amino acids (coded by DNA) spontaneously "crumples up" into a three-dimensional protein machine.

• Consequences: This capability grants enormous power, including the potential to engineer nano-bots or target enemies with precise, custom-designed proteins that attach only to specific cell surfaces.

• Human Counter-Value: AI struggles to learn based on limited data sets, such as "orphan proteins" (unique biological structures with no analogs) or creative concepts lacking a large corpus. This suggests that genuinely creative, non-repetitive activity is the human niche that will remain.

3.3 Deception and the UFO Phenomenon

Government entities use strategic deception, particularly in the defense and intelligence sectors, to manage public perception and technological parity.

• Faked Programs: The US government faked a UFO/UAP program (or at a minimum, had a fake special access program).

• Rationale for Deception:

  • Distraction: UFO stories serve as a ready-made narrative to explain advanced aerospace technology (like the B2 bomber) before its existence is publicly acknowledged.

  • Strategic Deterrence: Faking advanced capabilities convinces hostile nations (China, Russia, Iran) that the US possesses superior, even "incredible powers," potentially making them reluctant to strike.

  • Misdirection of Resources: It causes rivals to "waste a tremendous amount of money developing anti-gravity technology when there's no such thing".

• Consequence of Exposure: Discussing these national security secrets results in personal destruction and harassment, labeled as "conspiracy theory," often orchestrated by covert influence operations.

Page 5: Chapter 4: Societal Superstructure and the Crisis of Meaning

4.1 The Erosion of Superstructure

The loss of meaning and purpose in modern society stems from the systemic undoing of core superstructures.

• Unhooking Proximate from Ultimate: Society is too sophisticated and information-dense, leading to the deliberate "unhooking" of essential, protective mechanisms. For example, confusing immediate physical urges (air hunger, thirst) with ultimate biological needs (breathing, nourishment).

• The Demise of Family and Legacy: Essential institutions like the family unit are eroding. The Western idea that adult children moving out constitutes independence is questioned, suggesting cultures where family remains central (e.g., the Indian subcontinent) may possess greater meaning.

• Loss of Future Orientation: The widespread lack of concern for one's legacy (e.g., caring what people say four generations out) is a symptom of not believing in a long-term future.

4.2 The Necessity of Religion and Spiritual Anchor

The pursuit of transcendent meaning, spirituality, and purpose is vital for societal stability.

• Religion as a Superstructure: Even for an atheist, the need for religion is taken "super seriously," as society is not meant to live without structures that provide orientation.

• The Christian Substrate: Western society relies on the assumption of a Christian substrate. The absence of this foundation leads to "real trouble".

• Engaging Tradition: Individuals should actively engage with religious tradition (e.g., attending church, praying, visiting sites like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre). This participation is valuable regardless of the individual's level of certainty or belief ("Get over yourself. That's not how it works").

4.3 The Imperative for Reproduction

The continuation of the species is positioned as the most crucial, yet undervalued, activity available to almost everyone.

• Unbeatable Pleasure: Having children is described as "unbeatable" and far more rewarding than other personal achievements (e.g., traveling the world, private jets, or solving theoretical physics).

• Counter-Narrative: In a time when people are hesitant to bring children into a "horrible world," the counter-advice is to "make babies" and "keep this thing going".

Page 6: Chapter 5: Geopolitical Instability – Case Study: The Middle East

5.1 The New Global Conflict

The current conflict dynamics, particularly those centered in the Middle East and Ukraine, signify that "World War II and it's already started".

• Ukraine: The decision to hand full Article 5 status to former Soviet republics in 2004 without consequence is seen as a pivotal mistake that destabilized Europe. Europe itself has been "completely denatured".

• Complexity and Childlike Conversation: International relations are currently conducted at a "child's conversation" level, failing to grasp complex history or long-term consequences.

5.2 The Hybrid Warfare Model in Gaza

The conflict between Israel and Gaza following the October 7th invasion is best understood through the lens of hybrid warfare.

• Kinetic vs. Social Media: Hybrid warfare dictates that the physical component (shooting, planes, bombs) is not the major component; rather, social media and video are crucial.

• Senoir's Strategy (Monken by Proxy): The leader of Hamas, Senoir, was a genius who architected the invasion. The act was not rational via first-order logic, but brilliant via third and fourth-order logic.

• Police-Assisted Suicide: Senoir created a situation—analogous to "police-assisted suicide"—where Israel was compelled to respond using the wrong tools. He knew Israel had a kinetic advantage, and forced them to attack, resulting in videos of devastation that successfully turned the world against Israel.

• Iranian Calibration: Iran’s use of hypersonic missiles against Israel was carefully measured, intentionally hitting the earth to avoid maximal damage but conveying a message: "violence is a language".

5.3 Historical Responsibility and Necessary Actions

The US and UK bear significant responsibility for the instability in the Middle East.

• The Mullahs' Origin: The revolutionary theocratic government of Iran (the Mullers) was created due to US/UK intervention (Operation Ajax) in the 1950s, which overthrew a democratically elected leader and installed the Shah. This destabilizing act is the "scalding hot soup" spilled over the entire region (the schlamazle).

• The Two-State Solution Failure: US efforts to force a two-state solution were detrimental, as many Palestinian Arabs did not want it, leading to further heartache and complication.

Immediate Requirement:

1. Persian Uprising: The Iranian people must exercise their responsibility to rise up against the Mullers, especially given the threat of an aspiring nuclear theocracy.

2. Cold Peace Acceptance: A "shitty crappy horrible peace" (like the Egypt-Israel peace) must be accepted as the goal. This requires forcefully removing individuals—both Israeli settlers and certain Palestinian Arabs—who cannot coexist peacefully.

3. Strategic Leadership: Leaders must stop seeking transparency in negotiations; rather, they must use non-transparent strategies (carrots and sticks, threats) to achieve stability, similar to Donald Trump's negotiating intuition.

Page 7: Chapter 6: Strategic Imperative I – The New Physics and Multi-Sphere Existence

6.1 The Single-Basket Problem

The core existential vulnerability is that all of humanity's eggs are in "one basket". The shared atmosphere means that negative externalities (pathogens, climate, radiation, nuclear fallout) transcend borders.

• The Escape Imperative: This planetary constraint necessitates escaping to another sphere. The Earth is a "womb," not a permanent home; it is time to be "born".

• Elon Musk’s Vision (The Misallocation): Elon Musk is "100% right" about the goal of multi-sphere existence. However, he is relying too heavily on engineering (chemical rockets). Engineering cannot reach the stars with the science we currently possess.

• Recommendation: Musk should redirect "a couple billion towards physics" to solve the fundamental problems required for cosmic expansion.

6.2 The New Geometry of Reality (The Theory of Everything)

The current crisis demands a breakthrough in theoretical physics that redefines known dimensions. The speaker posits a theory of reality that uncovers hidden dimensions already implicit in Einstein's work.

• The Tetrahedral Model: Using a geometric model (e.g., four vertices of a tetrahedron), the four known dimensions are represented by the four vertices. The dimensions that have not been accounted for are represented by the six edges and the four triangular faces.

• Einstein’s Implicit Dimensions: The Einstein field equations are plural (10 equations) because they implicitly contain these six edges and four vertices. These dimensions were simply not taken seriously as directions to explore.

• Potential Unlocks: New physics could unlock concepts like:

  • The Traversible Cosmos, which may replace traditional time travel.

  • The ability to move back in time without sequentially "unplaying" all moments, similar to lifting a stylus on a vinyl record.

  • The elimination of a temporal arrow of time, potentially allowing theoretical longevity ("live forever").

Note: This theoretical exploration is analogous in historical consequence to Rutherford’s 1911 question about a "neutral version of the proton," which ultimately led to the nuclear chain reaction and the atomic bomb, illustrating the profound danger and leverage of foundational physical ideas.

Page 8: Chapter 7: Strategic Imperative II – Societal & Personal Recalibration

7.1 Preparing for the Automation Tsunami

The economic landscape is being permanently transformed by AI's ability to automate repetitive functions. Specific, named career advice is useless.

• The New Mandate: Individuals must "get flexible, get good, get good on a bunch of different stuff, learn how to think across disciplines".

• Flexibility is Key: The only viable advice is to treat this period as an unprecedented crisis and prepare to survive the coming shock.

7.2 The Re-Embrace of Superstructures

Since optimization mania often leaves people with capacity but no meaning ("now what?"), focusing on fundamental human experiences is essential.

• Family: The pleasure derived from raising children is "unbeatable" and universally available. People should reconsider the societal norm of kids leaving home and actively encourage family growth and connection.

• Meaning in the Immediate: Meaning is "everywhere". True luxury is found in simple, sensory appreciation of the world, such as listening to music (e.g., Pablo Casals, Eva Cassidy), enjoying tropical fruits (e.g., rambutan, jackfruit), or watching meteor showers.

• Engaging with Culture: Cultivating the ability to find beauty and deep connectivity in everyday objects and events (like Joe Rogan discussing pugilism or seeing a plastic bag dance in the wind) is crucial for mental resilience.

7.3 Navigating the Information Landscape

In a world defined by "managed reality" and hybrid warfare, vigilance against influence operations is necessary.

• Covert Influence: Individuals must recognize and resist the temptation to "pile on" in online harassment campaigns, which are often covertly organized against people standing up for truth (e.g., investigating COVID origins or Jeffrey Epstein).

• Malinformation: Terms like "pre-bunked malinformation"—discrediting truthful information detrimental to desired narratives—reveal the methods used to suppress dissent and truth-tellers.

• Skepticism: Critical information should be Googled and verified, especially regarding governmental secrecy and the reality of covert operations.

Page 9: Appendix A: Deep Dive on Suppression Mechanisms and Physics Theory

A.1 The Structure of Secret Keeping (The Squirrel Club)

The intelligence community uses codified language and structures to ensure maximum secrecy, prosecuting those who trip over the truth.

• Special Access Programs (SAPs): Super secret programs are termed SAPs.

• Unacknowledged Special Access Programs (USAPs): Programs whose existence cannot even be admitted, known only to the "Gang of Eight" in Congress.

• Waved and Bigoted Programs: Further, deeper levels of classification (e.g., "waved bigoted unacknowledged special access program") are used.

• Deemed Exports: A doctrine that makes it illegal for US citizens (particularly scientists) to discuss national security topics with foreign nationals from hostile nations, even on US soil.

A.2 The Theory of Everything: Implications for Time

The theoretical structure being explored introduces multiple dimensions of time, challenging the traditional one-dimensional "arrow of time".

• Flipping Spacetime Metrics: If the metric signature of spacetime is flipped (from one time dimension and three spatial dimensions to three time dimensions and one spatial dimension), the resulting reality would look exactly the same.

• Non-Linear Time Travel: The existence of multiple time dimensions means travel backward does not necessarily require traversing all preceding moments (e.g., using a stylus on a record player vs. rewinding a cassette tape). This implies a fundamental breakthrough in understanding causality and temporal barriers.

A.3 The Failure of Institutions

Even foundational institutions meant to ensure scientific integrity and good governance are compromised.

• Peer Review as Myth: The modern system of peer review in science is argued to be a myth. Scholarship suggests it was institutionalized between 1965 and 1975, initiated by the Medicare Act (to limit medical procedure payments) and subsequently expanded by editors (like Robert Maxwell/Pergamont Press) and government agencies (like the NSF) for self-defense and control.

• The Cost of Silence: Scientists are incentivized to retire without ever having done any actual physics. The top people in certain theoretical physics departments openly profess "no interest in the physical world," focusing solely on mathematics. This represents a successful effort to stop the world's most powerful group from making progress.

Page 10: Conclusion and Final Call to Action

The contemporary era is defined by extreme high leverage combined with a catastrophic deficiency in wisdom. The core focus must shift from political drama and internal optimization to large-scale, species-level goals.

The Call to Action for the Individual:

1. Dream Big About Legacy: Don't be embarrassed about seeking to conquer the world or leave a "permanent stain". The lack of focus on legacy is tied to the belief that the future is already lost.

2. Focus on Creation, Not Problems: Avoid being constantly "sucked into" perpetual drama and inexpensive meaning. Instead, focus on the entire universe available to explore, including traveling through time and space.

3. Invest in Meaning: Find luxury in accessible beauty: listen to great music (e.g., Bach Cello Suites by Pablo Casals), explore new cultures (e.g., the Azors, St. Helena), and seek out natural phenomena (e.g., meteor showers).

4. Embrace Life’s Core Structures: Get married and have children; there is nothing greater available on this planet.

5. Be Vigilant and Accountable: Wish your country’s leadership well, even if disliked, because they face incredibly difficult challenges. Recognize the reality of covert influence (e.g., campaigns against Israel being funded by Qatar) and refuse to participate in the destruction of good people.

The overarching imperative is to "scare the crap out of ourselves and come to our senses" before the window to save the planet, and expand beyond it, closes completely.

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jeffrey Epstein was a product of at least one element of the intelligence community i would bet money on it the CIA FBI i don't know who ran him but he knew a tremendous amount about my scientific work in ways that he wasn't supposed to very powerful people told me I needed to meet him he certainly was not a financeier in any standard sense that was a cover story i need to know what this thing was and I want to know why people don't investigate it i want to know why nobody asks for the filings but I think more than anything we don't trust our scientists because our scientists are the most powerful people in our society so do you think science is being controlled so that it can be used in a way that's beneficial let's put it this way eric Weinstein is a renowned mathematician and one of the most fearless and provocative thinkers of our time he dissects the failures of science exposes elite networks and proposes bold new theories that could save humanity so top of mind for me at the moment is the apocalypse and tropical fruit i'm not kidding you're looking at the end man do you really think this is the start of the end of course it is look at how much has happened in the last month and the big problem is that we share one atmosphere all of humanity's eggs are in one basket so what needs to happen to get me a future so I think Elon is 100% right got to get to another sphere but he's being a complete when it comes to science and he's being a total hero when it comes to engineering but you can't engineer your way to the stars with the science we have the physics opens the universe to you but we have a real problem a new idea in physics changes the balance of power in the world the desire of our government is to get the science to give us as much power as possible but then they castrate the scientists belittle them destroy their families their lives their ability to earn because our government isn't good enough to keep its own secrets do you think my employer was a special informant to the FBI there's a doctrine that says physicists don't have free speech they're stopping the world's most important group from making progress physics is the only thing that's going to get your future so let's talk about this i see messages all the time in the comments section that some of you didn't realize you didn't subscribe so if you could do me a favor and double check if you're a subscriber to this channel that would be tremendously appreciated it's the simple it's the free thing that anybody that watches this show frequently can do to help us here to keep everything going in this show in the trajectory it's on so please do double check if you've subscribed and uh thank you so much because in a strange way you are you're part of our history and you're on this journey with us and I appreciate you for that so yeah thank you eric you are a particularly captivating individual for the very fact that you grace so many different intellectual subjects as we sit here now having this conversation I want to know what subjects at this moment in in time are occupying most of your thoughts and most of your thinking we have uh a strong listenership here and I think the responsibility that I have meeting someone like you is to understand what we should be talking about so top of mind for me at the moment is tropical fruit and physics i'm not kidding tropical fruit and physics yeah yeah but that's just because you're catching me on a particular day okay and uh my my local um 99 Ranch Market ran out of Rambutan which I'm addicted to no I have serious issues with tropical fruit i'm I'm completely obsessed by it what about this week what What's been occupying most of your thoughts this week well the apocalypse and physics why' you say the apocalypse um and what do you mean by the apocalypse well we're we're becoming a nerd to to the apocalypse we just watched hypersonic missiles flam into a modern city on TV and we're watching one of the world's most remarkable civilizations the Persians take uh direct hits from both Israel and the US and I'm just beside myself i mean this is incredibly dramatic if if you think about you know just the idea of the Jews and the Persians are both still here and you know one of the things that I find really just painful is that I care about certain certain cultures that I know well more than others and these are two of my absolute favorites what's what's going on at this moment in time because it feels like there's more conflict than there's ever been and I don't know whether that's just a bias that I have at this moment but or whether I'm looking at the wrong social media algorithm but it feels like the world isn't is tense well you're too you're too young for the Cold War so I don't know how old you are 32 yeah so you you you really missed I grew up in a different world where things were tense because there were two players and you know it was more or less the US and the Soviets and then we decided it one of the dumbest things we ever came up with a very smart man came up with the dumbest one of the dumbest ideas which was the end of history and you know the the postworld war I order is here to stop us from using the technologies that came out of this and I you know I talk about this a lot there was a six-month period between November of 52 and April of 53 where we unlocked first the power of the nucleus because we could fuse hydrogen and the other thing we were able to do was uh figure out the threedimensional structure of nucleic acid in the form of the double helix and suddenly in in no time flat we had access to the two most powerful levers uh humanity has ever had perhaps ever will and so we're just not in a position to deal with this and the remarkable thing what does that mean sorry in terms of you said we had access to the two most remarkable things well the hydrogen bomb is not something that has ever been used by anyone against an enemy this is the first full scale test of a hydrogen device if the reaction goes we're in the thermonuclear era 3 2 1 so we're we're awaiting its first use in war we we we did use fision devices but we didn't use fusion devices and they're completely different scales so the Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the only two situations in which a nuke has ever been used against a a population civilian or otherwise and we don't know for example whether or not I don't know um at least co had its origins in a bioweapons program so at some level we're playing with levers and tools that are so powerful do you realize that the the key ingredient that made COVID so unique was a four amino acid sequence inserted into spike protein so that's 12 nucleotides coding for four amino acids shut down planet earth for a couple of years that's how powerful this is you know and the very few things that have this kind of leverage in 2017 we had a discovery a white paper called attention is all you need and oddly many of us dealing with AI and LLMs and talking that language don't even realize there's a paper that you can read that changed everything uh it's eight authors out of Google I think um and that opened up AI uh Satoshi in 2008 2009 with the the solution to the double distributed double spend problem where you could effectively port um conservation laws from the physical world into the digital world giving us digital gold uh but just as a as a beginning these ideas that have such high leverage are making us powerful beyond any previous world with no attendant increase in our wisdom in our ability to use and wield these things and right now you're seeing the face where we're unveiling what does drone warfare look like in FPV what is FPV first person where you know where you're looking through the lens of the drone as it slams into a personnel carrier you know maybe maybe you've seen this on Telegram where you're just watching individuals being menaced by mechanical flying birds equipped to kill them so we didn't know what drone warfare looked like this is the beginning of drone warfare we didn't know what hypersonic missiles look like when they slam into a population center i was just in Tel Aviv couple months ago and I was in you know shelters because the Houthis and some of the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza were letting off missiles but not like this persians really you know and by the way they're choosing I think to not inflict maximal damage i don't I don't think that they they could have gotten the body count uh a lot higher if they'd wanted to they're trying to speak the language of violence in a very measured fashion so is this a particularly tense moment or is it just the bias that I have because I've not been through these things before is there something different you're look I can't even believe the question you're looking at the end man this is the beginning this is a slow roll out of a completely different world you've been in We've all been in a completely artificially stagnant bubble for decades my entire life up until now has been in a bubble the only people who have seen real life are extremely old who are those people that have seen real life well I would say people who went through the depression World War II you know in China people who went through Ma's great leap forward but most of us have no idea of what like a real pandemic like a Spanish flu or black plague is like we don't know what uh Poland went through where they lost you know I don't know 20 25% of their population to war look at the stat statistics on the battle of Stalenrad we don't really understand we've we we've just our whole life has been in a bubble you said I'm looking at the end yeah remember all the talk about the singularity like Ray Curtzswhil we're heading to the singularity what is the singularity going to be like you're in it this is this is now you're looking at the disintegration of NATO you're looking at people who don't know how to maintain the systems that were engineered by their great-grandparents after World War II that order that you know you're from the UK if you think about how how the UK woke up to the idea that they had built into their heads that we are the masters of the world so you you saw the beginning of the end of this concept of the British Empire that moment is coming for the US and it may be that it's coming for Israel or it may be that it's coming for Iran see in 1967 the Israelis felt invincible in the Six-Day War and then in 1973 they had the Yom Kipper war and all the people that they were you know priding themselves as having beaten these ferocious enemies that were arrayed against them woke up on Yom Kapor in 1973 and bloodied the Israelis and they surprised them so the Israelis underestimated their enemy and that changed the entire character of the country it went from being a triumphal state that felt that David could defeat Goliath to realizing that Goliath was quite powerful and you know the same thing is going to happen here you you saw the celebration that Trump you know had dealt this blow to the Iranian nuclear facilities you you watch the Persians come back it's going to we're starting to realize what the boundaries are as people are more bold in trying things maybe Xi's going to try to cross the Taiwan Strait i don't know but the era of stasis where very little happened over very long periods of time is over so you think this is the start of escalation this is the start of the undoing of the postworld war II order the idea that the postworld war II order is still in place is astounding so what happens next we either scare the crap out of ourselves and come to our senses or we don't we scare the crap out of ourselves and come to our senses or we don't hm and what does that look like scaring the crap out of ourselves well I don't know how did you feel about the hypersonic missiles like and we started this and I'm talking about tropical fruit because I'm trying to figure out whether I I should buy a jackf fruit and stink up my wife's kitchen you know and on the other hand I just saw hypersonic missiles slam into the buildings I was just in for meetings in Tel Aviv there's a a nuclear threat that weirdly hangs over us and I almost feel at some deep level we all understand and feel that threat that there's these nine or 10 countries around the world that have the ability to basically wipe out all of us at any moment i feel like that's almost within us all that knowing is within us all i totally disagree really yeah i think about nothing else sometimes and I still don't believe I don't believe it there's a difference between knowing something in your head and knowing something embodied yeah i don't know if we're able to distinguish whether we know it in our head or whether it's embodied unconsciously to the point that it's changing how we act do you know what I mean because I'm I'm now aware that there's nine country and I'm also aware of that really it's one individual's decision as to whether those nuclear bombs were to fly so there's a part of me that's I don't know maybe in suspended disbelief or at a deeper level feels an angst but nobody knows what to do with it and this is part of what what Elon is all about which is that I am convinced that everybody else needs to be talking about this much more and I need to be talking about this much less i talk about this all the time you know people are always I want to survive more than anything else there's so many things that I love about this place and I don't like the idea that we're all trapped here with one atmosphere with nine individuals if you like who could all wake up on the wrong side of the bed and say "Uh today's the day." Part of what I'm so exercised about with respect to the apocalypse is how many things I want to save i mean this city just went up in flames it's very it focuses the mind how many things can I save in one car load if I know that the police are not going to let me come back to my home do you save photos do you save musical instruments do you save financial records what what is it that you save you know it was a very focusing question we're already over it we can't even remember the fires on that point of the things that give us meaning yeah in our lives where do you think we're at as a society in terms of our feelings of meaning and purpose and connectedness to maybe something transcendent or I was mulling over this idea the other day i actually posted it on on my LinkedIn page of all places i said that um I think we need to ladder up to things to feel like anchored and content in life like we you know we lad we start with ourselves and we ladder up to family then community then maybe a mission or a purpose and then maybe to something transcendent and it feels like it because of the design of our lives and the optimization of it we we're increasingly lading up to just ourselves i think even in my life I'm wondering whether there's like a layer missing like which is the religious layer or a spiritual layer do you pray it's a good question you come over Friday night and pray with us i'd say I do pray that's pretty weak but it's not a it's not the way that I see prayer on in movies and stuff so that's the thing right we have this idea that somebody puts their hands together and they just believe but a lot of time when you're praying you don't really believe you're not sure that you're doing anything sensible you you feel ridiculous mhm and that's true even if you're a believer do you think we need religion yeah said the atheist are you an atheist but I take religion super seriously i don't think we're meant to live without it that's an interesting conundrum i don't think so everybody gets hung up on it i sort of wonder what their problem is please explain so you believe that we aren't meant to live without religion we're meant to be orientated by something transcendent but you don't believe that it's real i think that you know there's this great trick that I learned when I was scuba diving which is that your your need to breathe is triggered by the buildup of CO2 in your lungs and there are all sorts of things you can do to decrease your need to breathe one is you can hyperventilate and you can get rid of all of the CO2 that's residual you can also inerture your lungs to CO2 by smoking you can also breathe out the precious air that your instincts tell you to hold in you can do all these things and then you can go super deep you can equal learn how to equalize the pressure in your ears by holding your nose and and these techniques and suddenly you're far deeper than you've ever been and you're exploring the rocks and the fishes and there's a turtle and there's an eel and you get a message you're out of air and you look up and you see I am really far from the surface this is terrifying that's what happens when you unhook the proximate which is air hunger from the ultimate which is the need to breathe so thirst is proximate to dehydration hunger is proximate to the need for nourishment in part religion and prayer is there to keep us from unhooking all of these protective things and just turning life into a hoot you can have a hoot without religion but if everybody has a hoot the whole society collapses some point I think a president of the United States may have said that people who defend this country were suckers something like that and I thought "God damn you." Maybe it's true even but how many families have have received a a flag draped coffin and felt pride like we lost something precious but we are part of the American tapestry in a way that few families can be and when we outsmart ourselves when we unhook all of these things you know every single young woman has an idea about what the opportunity cost of not going on only fans is before we didn't know what the opportunity cost there was no measurement of it we're becoming too sophisticated we've got too much information we're deranging ourselves we're having a blast and we're completely undoing all of the superructure of the world the number of people who don't have children or want children or my kids make fun of me i just go around telling people to make babies and it's the most normal thing in the world i meet parents who don't harass their own children to get married and have families like what are you doing the superructures of the world one being family family yeah traditions things that ground that connect you to and what are the symptoms of that unhooking from the superructures of the world how much do you care about things how much do you care about people saying your name four generations out me yeah you you're probably asking the wrong person because I just don't think legacy matters because I'm going to be dead that's right but you're I'm asking all of you who believe that that is so sad it is so weird that no one cares about their legacy because they don't see a future so what I'm trying to say is I'm desperate to get you a future so that you care what needs to happen to get me a future something remarkable something utterly remarkable because it's not it's not going that way and that's what that's what the physics part is like I talk about physics constantly physics is the only thing that's going to get to your future and how how well right now the big problem is that we share one atmosphere yeah so everything that can all the really bad things whether it's pathogens like imagine something coidlike but far worse or climate or uh radiation all of these things don't know anything about borders to an extent there's a southern and a northern hemisphere that are separate but even that's not a great border so we can draw all the borders on land that we want but we still have basically one or two atmospheres and I would really say one and we've now gotten powerful enough to really screw it up right and so through nukes or through carbon emissions all three of those things okay right everything that you care about is on one sphere with one one atmosphere and I think Elon is 100% right we got to get to another sphere i can't believe that he's focused on Mars i mean by by sure focus on the moon focus on Mars focus on chemical rockets but throw a couple billion towards physics for God's sakes so let us get it let us get serious about exploring the cosmos this is our womb this is not our home we're You know you know that song Closing Time no I don't closing time uh you don't have to go home but you can't stay here i think it's about birth yeah it's time to be born you can't stay here this is completely obvious to me and I am the only person who who talks this way and so I sound like a lunatic and I get tired of it but the real reason it you know it's about the mangoes it's about the rambutan it's about the music it's about all the things that I love so why would you want to leave i want to take it with us and I want to see what else is out there and I want to meet people why don't you just stay here and fix this planet cuz you can't the odds of fixing one sphere for a permanent future you've already talked about you don't care about the future i don't have children yet either so I don't Yeah I don't have that but I My children don't have children and their children don't have children and I care about them and they're not even here we've got some time left here though well we did if you looked what's happened in the last month it's coming undone pakistan and India do you really think this is the start of the end i I have no idea where I am of course it is the World War II order was keeping it it's like control rods keeping the world from going super critical can't we just put the rods back together have you looked at who we had an election with Donald Trump versus Kla Harris in the US tell me what's going on in the UK what are we doing in the mayoral race for for New York i don't know if you're watching what I'm watching look at the mess that's going on in Gaza russia is nuclear israel is presumably nuclear pakistan and India are nuclear the US is nuclear iran is almost nuclear china's pissed off about Iran because it was trying to make a play through the region north Korea is watching oh and look at the UK in turmoil uk is a very nuclear country to say nothing of France this is not going to go well we just we and by the way look at how much is happening with AI right everything was really stagnant so I I have this famous challenge that I give people which is go into a room and subtract the screens and forget about style how do you know you're not in 1973 like drones are the beginning imagine I needed a refill on my coffee and you know you did something and a drone brought me a coffee to not interrupt the flow that would we know we weren't in 73 but in general drones aren't a big part of our lives these robots I've never seen a human robot actually doing anything other than on YouTube where it's like doing the mashed potato mhm so in general yeah things were just really stagnant for a really long time and during that period of stagnation we we had this crazy narrative which is like the dizzying pace of change is making it almost impossible to keep up while things were incredibly stagnant and so it just shows you sort of this weird way in which our our minds can be programmed to completely ignore what we're experiencing is there not a chance that we'll just continue to Okay if you want to go with chance look until until you're worried about your great great grandchildren i don't want to have this conversation with you i want you to start caring about that i want you to go to church you you're heir to a great tradition one of the most important traditions in the world has to be Christianity because both Judaism and Islam are screwed up over the law we're legal traditions christianity not so much and I think I first time somebody crystallized that for me was Sam Harris it's a really important point but you're heir to an incredibly powerful and important tradition and if we don't have a Christian substrate we're in real trouble because all of our society is based on on an assumption of a Christian substrate you're advising me to be Christian in tradition but not in necessarily in belief well this is the thing you're alienated because you think that you have to be a believer in order to go in otherwise you're faking it get over yourself that's not how it works that's true that's me just me being honest i do think that if I went to a church and I I sung and I I prayed and stuff and I didn't believe I would that I'd be like it'd be it'd be fake okay do do you imagine that all those people who go to church are just sitting there 100% sure that there's a there's a Jesus to pray to do you know any Christians yeah they're not like that they sneak off and do bad things if they were confident that Jesus was watching everything that they were doing and they were constantly talking about how they sin I'm a sinner right it's a very complicated interesting piece of kit and my claim is that you know I said the Lord's Prayer as part of going to high school i sat in a church a chapel at a high school in LA that had a stained glass window with an American soldier trampling a Nazi flag into the stained glass window was amazing how does this link to me i was about to say can't don't you have faith that we'll just be able to kind of keep this it feels like a bit of a standoff so you're the one with the faith i'm the one who's nervous you look you're the believer i'm not going to trust that no no i'm going to get my hands dirty and try to do something about it do you know what i think in part it's because as you said I've been alive for 32 years and through that time has been relative peace especially in the western world so it's all I've ever known so I I'm born with this assumption that this is just kind of how it goes that there's always threat but we kind of figure it out come to the Pacific Palisades it looks like Gaza yeah yeah i've got some friends that lost their houses there you know checked out Lahina in uh West Maui recently no it's an absolute disaster is AI a protagonist in this story is it sure in what in what respect well what do you what do you think about it we're going through going through a wild revolution at the moment and I just hear people saying the dumbest things about it what do I think about I'm scared I might say something dumb now but Well let's try because I'm going to say something dumb i think well I look at both sides of the coin and I look at the opportunity and the and the threat my concern when I hear about the CEOs of the biggest aerial companies in the world talking about this fast takeoff is that the transition will be too quick for us to adjust and when they say fast takeoff they mean that AGI like arrives and it the rate of its learning accelerates so quickly that it really um disrupts the need for human beings to do a lot of the sort of jobs we're doing today that are centered on intelligence which jobs require intelligence pretty much all of them these days because we've had the industrial revolution where we've outsourced a lot of the labor to machines but I don't think so really yeah I think a large portion of our conversation was actually an LLM we didn't actually get to the stuff outside of the LLM you and I are two chat bots for the most part you're a good one thank you i'm on a huge I'm on a huge platform again you know but my claim is is that that's the really disturbing part that more or less we're LLMs more or less we don't do a single intelligent thing all day long and the reason that they're able to mimic us is because we don't realize that intelligence is a last resort for us we try to automate like you know if you think about greetings your assistant was very kind i got out of a black car that you guys sent around and I was greeted with the phrase "There he is the man the myth." And I knew what was coming next the legend right because that is a sort of humorous way of giving an intimate greeting but it's still an LLM and I'm not saying that your assistant is an LLM i'm saying that more or less what we do all day long is LLM interactions hey buddy how are you good good things have been really busy how about you well I got some travel coming up kind of excited about it but I have to get through some work first i understand that's an entirely scripted conversation that's why I'm trying to say that I want to do podcasting that is outside of the LLM model i don't want to do just dangerous stupid stuff but I want to talk about things that I've never explored where I don't have something you know ready do you think AI will ever break out of the the LLM or will it expand i think the LLMs will i don't see I think that waiting for AGI as the problem is a is a bad idea i think the problems are going to get here far before AGI i think even that the AGI expectation is something we're trained to do do you think AGI is coming do you think we'll survive AGI will AGBI be good or bad all of that's pre-programmed into you why do you Why are you waiting for AGI did you not alpha fold three did you Did you track that do you know about this is that Was that the chess game the well it's the chess game that became the protein folding game all right you want to talk about great games protein folding now that's a game i have no no knowledge of this at all okay what do you know about proteins very little okay think about proteins as tiny machines that there's copying machine there's a a scissors and a shearing machine there's a a light making machine all sorts of things and all of those machines are weirdly coded imagine that you had like a a children's show and uh a bunch of girl superheroes they all had necklaces with uh 20 different kinds of beads around their neck and so when they needed a machine they'd take off the necklace they'd throw it into a thing called a ribosome the ribosome would take these 20 kinds of pearls and suddenly it would build you a car or a spaceship or a gun or who knows what well that's that's that's the story of DNA RNA and uh and protein the only thing is isn't it weird that a linear sequence suddenly crumples up into a three-dimensional object that does something so for example I don't have you ever seen um these Turkish rabbits that glow in the dark no okay so they took green fluorescent protein out of jellyfish yeah and they uh spliced them into the nucleic acids of rabbits and the Turks bred all of these glow-in-the-dark bunnies and what that is is a structure so there's there's something called secondary structure and protein where sometimes you get these spirals called alpha helyses and then sometimes you get a two-dimensional sheet that's made from taking uh a switchback in in strings of amino acids and then if you wrap that around you don't have a beta sheet you have a beta barrel and these beta barrels are the glow-in-the-dark aspect of green fluorescent protein okay and what we didn't know was how a series of acts and G's could code for sequences of amino acids could form three-dimensional structures so if you just read DNA you didn't know well that's going to be a a sports car yeah alphold figured it out for the most part like to a to an enormous extent humans were stuck there and what does that mean it means that you could uh I don't know you could target your enemies that have particular regions uh on their cell surfaces and you could come up with proteins that only attach to them and attack it could mean anything could mean nanoobots i don't know what it means but my point is is that that's already here and you're not focused on it and you're thinking AGI and the funny part is is that's your LLM that got programmed to wait for AGI well I heard you know people that I think are very smart much smarter than me talk about the Don't listen to them elon sure i mean he he says that it's our biggest existential threat is a AI elon has become the outsourcing for much of our intelligence and if Elon means anything to you he's really saying to you "Don't listen to me do something remarkable." He's saying "Where is everybody why is there only one Elon there used to be lots of them?" Why is there only one Elon yeah not the right question where where did all the other Elons go same question is it not no I think that the why is there only one Elon makes Elon feel more singular you know if you ever get a chance to go to Capidokia or Bryce National Park in Utah you see what happens which is that you'll have a stone that was resting on the soil and suddenly the wind starts to erode everything except the compactified soil right under that stone and you get what's called a fairy chimney or a hood and so the claim is is that sometimes you get these isolated structures And the key point is everything else eroded away we're supposed to have tons of Elon and everybody else got taken out what or who took them out look at how much trouble Elon has being Elon look we keep hearing about him you know he's on drugs great take drugs no I'm not kidding do you know how many amazing people take drugs if you care about jazz jazz is a whole you know it's a history of drugs whenever I'm listening to Ray Charles I'm hearing heroin okay what are they doing at Burning Man they're trying to live luxuriously under oppression simultaneously luxuriously and as dirty and disgusting as you'll ever be hopefully they're having tons of eye-opening mind-bending experiences chasing some way of getting out of the LLM and you know my feeling about this is it's not even honest i I I believe that Elon for example does understand that population and growth is really important but I also think he just enjoys making babies and in in a weird way this idea of I'm going to have an empire of my children is a forbidden concept try explaining that to HR you know it's like what did you say at work so the key point is Elon is barely able to be Elon do you think we're overestimating the impact AI is going to have because people you know a lot of people see as this really fundamentally transformative no you don't think we're underestimating it i think it's going to be I I I think that what AI means to us is is bizarre we've we've come up with this whole script about AGI and it's going to take everything we do that's repetitive is on the chopping block and since almost everything we do is repetitive we don't need to get to AGI we just need to do things where lots of people create lots of repetitive data and then we tokenize it we train the AI on the tokens and then for the most part it says you know it it doesn't matter it can be a photograph it can be music whatever it is amino acids just give me a large enough data set and let me add it and you know take a hike for for a little while i'll train on it and then I'll know how to do that you know what it's bad at things that where there isn't much data so I I just I just found out about these orphan proteins where like everybody's got a different version of hemoglobin mhm but you know the the quadinary structure of he hemoglobin is these four hem groups you know four different proteins around a central element what happens when you have a protein that has no analog anywhere else the the system doesn't have the ability to learn it if if I train you on the blues and you find out what a 12 bar blues progression is then you find out that there's a variation where this you know the second bar goes to the fourth rather than just staying on the one for four bars and then sometimes the fourth bar has a seven in it to create tension okay so it's going to learn every single form of the blues like that and because there's a large corpus of that stuff it's going to get really good at blues music you know as a but if you take something that basically never happens it's not going to have an easy ability to train and give you more so I think that AI is almost certainly going to transform the economy because everything that we we know how to do through education creates repetitive behaviors we don't know how to educate for creativity and genius we know how to educate for doing higher level things so radiology is a great example radiologists are you know some of the first uh in the crosshairs i'm going to stare at some imaging and I'm going to say I think that's a tumor i think that's benign and it's going to say just give me give me give me all of these tokens like well they're x-rays they're cats no no they're just tokens so yeah it's going to start to automate away every repetitive behavior and then what's going to be left is the tiny number of things that aren't really highly repetitive or things where we really care that a human does it very interesting what's happened with chess i don't know if you've been following chess i loosely understand it mainly because I've spoken to a lot of AI experts and they often reference chess as as an example where it was one of the first things that humans did that we really cared about that fell so they've been longer in the AI tractor beam than any of the rest of us in some sense how did it fall through Deep Blue and IBM and Gary Kasparov but does that mean that people people aren't interested in chess anymore what are you saying no no no that's the whole point so Magnus Carlson the greatest chess player of our time and perhaps of all time was on Joe Rogan and Joe asked him the simple question can your phone beat you he's like yeah easily so the point is we can't compete with I don't know Stockfish or what whatever the top chess programs of our time i don't know anymore but nobody cares about those programs except for AI experts we care about the drama of you know Anan versus Carlson two humans two humans because it's about us we're we're very narcissistic in this way and so there was a period and you know this is something that my wife uh tried to popularize so she said this thing about the golden age of AI complimentarity where the AIs aren't good enough to take over from us but they're amazing tools and so there's a period where we're teamed up you know the prompt engineering revolution they're not good enough to come up with their own prompts and a great example of this that she and I have been talking about is the cyborg chess era which is a period where humans and the AI I could form teams that would do better but at some point the AI just looks at the human and says "You're just holding me back." You've got two children when they're thinking about their career prospects with all that you think and know and believe about the future that we're heading towards what what kind of career advice would you be giving to them oh I've given them terrible career advice i give I gave them somewhat different career advice so to my son my my advice was do the hardest most technical thing you possibly can do and be prepared to use that ability that facility in different ways than you're you're honing it but train yourself with my daughter um I think she cares deeply about people and you know there's a typical male female divide and I'm not by the way I'm not going to talk overly much about them because I try to keep them out but she is uh you know somebody who is taking the same level of analytic ability but putting it in the service of the law and trying to help people who are you know really unfortunate she's very idealistic and so at some level the law is not going to allow us to have AI lawyers for quite some time it's not going to trust anything we we've got jury uh trials and and judges and a legal system that's written into our founding documents to the average person I would say get your board in the water and prepare to paddle like all get out the tsunami of a lifetime is coming and nothing your elders have seen is going to prepare there's no good advice to give that's specific let's put it this way but one of the things when people tell me about their moving from one city to another I have a phrase that nobody likes which is every place is over oh I'm moving to Austin yeah it's over miami it's over nashville over you know all these places are over and every occupation that is named is over i'm going to be a dentist radiologist accountant teacher these are all over whatever is coming get flexible get good get good on a bunch of different stuff learn how to think across disciplines i have no idea what what's going to be left for us but you know somebody's going to come out on top and I I hate to tell people that you should try to come out on top i don't think it's healthy to have everyone trying to be world class i think you should be able to just have a life now I have a golden retriever i don't know that it's the greatest golden retriever in the world sometimes I think it is but it does a lot of dumb stuff but he's my golden retriever i just don't think it I think that this mania for optimization like if you look at your own videos you'll find some of the best performing videos are this is how to succeed this is how to get anyone you want this is how to get out of a bad situation people just want capacity but for what okay you've optimized your day you've optimized your health your social media is optimized now what now what i don't know what should be then say you know is it the is it time to just one would say well now I one would incorrectly say well now I can play with my golden retriever and then one would say well you should have been playing with your golden retriever the whole time let me put it a little differently through some bizarre accident I've gotten a chance to meet incredible people that I don't even talk about who I've met you You know I've got a chance to see the world i haven't seen South America but I've seen most the other continents other than the Antarctic i've had a really rich life take somebody who hasn't had those opportunities but they got a chance to have three kids i'm not sure I wouldn't trade places i so enjoyed raising my children and it's available to everyone it's such a strange thing that we're talking about optimization all this stuff i I get to think about the the substrate of the universe theoretical physics i dream about visiting the stars i dream about multiple dimensions of time meeting aliens all sorts of things i still think having kids was like unbeatable i'm so sad that it's over i'm so sad that they moved out i cannot believe that I was dumb enough to live in a society that doesn't believe in having your kids with you your whole life the idea that we look at places where kids live at home as backwards is beyond me and shout out to uh the entire Indian subcontinent you know it's just like family is everything they drive me crazy but it it's just meaning is available for you and again you know every time I get a chance to eat a rambutan it's one of my favorite fruits mangoes rambutans jackf fruit sithafal if you can get custard apple the amount of pleasure I get i've never had a good custard apple in the entire time I've lived in the US not one i've had a frozen one imported from Taiwan you get this cheramoya just get out of here chairoya you're not good great custard apple great sith follow what a pleasure to be on this earth and it's available to almost anyone i just think that you can find meaning you know for God's sakes go to Spotify if you have a a connection if you can afford a connection to Spotify and put in Pablo Casal's version of the Boach Cello Suites you're as rich as you need to be i've flown private i'd much prefer to listen to Pablo Casal playing the the jealous suites in economy than to be to be to be deprived of real luxury i don't know i just to me meaning is everywhere i can't swing a cat without hitting meaning have you always been like that or is that something that you've cultivated the point about being able to swing a cat and find meaning so many people that would be listening now could swing a a 100 mile stick and wouldn't hit meaning in their lives but you seem to be able to find it in the the purer things the more simple things and I'm wondering if that's something that we can all cultivate with a change of perspective or if it's just the way that you've always been why is Joe Rogan such a big deal you ever listen to Joe Rogan talk about pugilism two gentlemen beating the crap out of each other as poetry as chess i could listen to Joe talk about MMA for days you know the story of Mighty Mouse the guy trapped in some I don't know flyweight division with unbelievable skills who never gets to meet a formidable enemy you know do you think that's a privilege do you think that there's a privilege in being able to craft a story because so much of the meaning you're describing there comes from these great stories and not everybody is able to craft the story upon seeing something you probably look at this item in front of me this glass and create a story about it that drives meaning that makes you feel something i worry about its manufacturer how is it that we got a surface of revolution what is what is the industrial process how do I take a picture of this and get a a photograph of the machine that made it you know that fly that has been buzzing around us this entire interview yeah do you remember when Obama had a fly yeah and he caught it in Wow the confidence of that man see I'd try that and I'd miss and I'd screw it up in front of millions of people you know it's like I I took so much meaning away from that fly were you trying to or is that just a sort of pre We all did not everyone some people would have gone how was it that you knew exactly what I was talking about because he captured a moment he was the girl in the red dress you know there's this thing that women say not every woman can wear red well not every man can grab a fly with confidence i I think I think we all see this i think we all see beauty everywhere you remember that movie American Beauty with the the plastic bag that gets in the air funnel going up and the key point is the ability just to see beauty wherever you find it you know everything behind you means something to me the letter B uh is strange to me that there's only one phonetic alphabet and that every phonetic alphabet is descended from it you know i I I basically view everything as a hyperlink i just want to click on the world and see what it goes to not everybody does though but we do they don't make the step is what I'm saying because people would see the bee and nothing would cross their you know it's funny there's an absolutely horrible account that has been just dogging me for years trying to make my life miserable and a social media account yeah doesn't matter yeah and the person said "You know one thing I just never understand is he's not he's not hawking a book he He's just talking why Why are his numbers high?" The answer is everybody cares about this stuff they want an invitation one of the funniest things that gets said about me on social media is he goes on forever and he never says anything and then like I look at the word clouds of things that I' I've talked about and people are just googling everything incessantly you know if you didn't know who Pablo Cassals was now you do now you know what a real chis sounds like um I don't know i just I can't believe that I'm so far through this life that there's so little left i can't believe this doesn't go on forever my people just got hit and you know you want to talk about the river and the sea that river is not the Jordan River and that sea is not the Mediterranean the Arab world stretches from the Atlantic with Morocco right up to the what is it Shhat Alabia waterway that divides Iraq from Iran and I don't think this is stable there is no way in which we should be fighting like this this is ridiculous trump Trump used the F-word i mean he's getting taking a ton of crap why would you use the F word well isn't it interesting that people view Trump as so tacky you know he's he's got this Queen's sort of bluster he doesn't doesn't of uh finalist clubs at Harvard or Skull and Bones or whatever no Trump doesn't use the F-word for a reason that he needs it once in a blue moon and it better mean something and he said this to Iran and he said this to Israel these two two countries have been fighting for so long they don't know what the fuck they're doing he didn't make a mistake the rest of the world has just forgotten how to calibrate what do you see Trump in how is he clothed he's almost always in a suit and tie and he almost never says the f- word and it's carefully calibrated to get everybody's attention and we're so asleep that we don't even hear it this is World War II and it's already started biden was there in the Oval Office non-compassment meant and I was being told don't worry there's a a committee that has replaced him because I was talking about the fact that he can't be president i I just don't know what we're doing i'm so mystified by everybody else you know it's like Elon makes sense to me i'm not Elon i'm very different person but at least Elon makes sense to me not 100% but 98% Elon makes sense to me it's everybody else that I'm completely confused about what part of what Elon is saying makes so much sense to you oh jeez everything one we have to have babies we have to keep going two we it can't all be about problems you have to be excited to be alive every morning you have to work your ass off your whole life you want to know one of the most beautiful things that ever happened somebody telling Elon that he was the world's richest human being he said "Huh it's interesting." Okay back to work amazing right there's no reward that he can't have more of by stopping work and enjoying his wealth except doing stuff and I was born in this country my parents were born in this country my grandparents on one side were not but my grandparents on the other side were elon is so American that cowboy spirit that it he does all sorts of stuff I can't stand i don't want to see one more of those Pepe memes ever i really don't what the fuck is his problem okay I don't know him at all but Elon at his best is is the United States you know anything is possible here and we and we just waste our lives on interpersonal drama he wastes his life to an enormous extent as a troll i cannot that's the part of him that I don't understand is one why he's not focused 100% on physics i think he sees it as going through grock and AI he doesn't want to trust humans i think he sees Mars as energizing to engineers and the stars are innovating to engineers because the science there's no amount 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anywhere else so when the time comes to make your next hire make it count and promote your job on LinkedIn head to linkedin.com/doac that's linkedin.com/doac and terms and conditions apply a second ago you said you can't believe it doesn't go on forever you or the universe or I can't believe my story doesn't go on forever look I've never died before so I have no experience with it so as far as I know I've always been alive and it'll always go on that way but there's another thing that you know I I've talked about occasionally which is I'm not the most publicspirited human being you know I I am somebody who will take the last the last rambutan you know and I know that you're not supposed to do that in almost any culture on earth but sometimes it just sitting there bothers me okay so I'm not the I'm not the classiest person on earth but I'll tell you something if you have a kid and you have a choice about eating the ramatan yourself or giving the rambatan to your child this it's a no-brainer you you're going to enjoy the ramatan so much more if you give it to your kid and you'll see and that's the way in which this goes on forever that's great i mean just how many young people do I have to yell at i don't know if I want to have kids i don't want to bring anyone into this horrible world why do you have kids it bothers you i can see it personally bothers you do you have any idea how much hate there is right now for Israel do you have any idea how destabilizing this action against Iran was do you have any idea how many people have suffered for how long under the mullers we are being cheated of Persia i'm not talking about Iran for the Persians i'm talking about we are cheated of Persia the entire planet one of the greatest societies on earth taken off the line i look You're catching me on the wrong week i I don't want to dwell on it this is just incredibly irresponsible we're not going to survive this israel is certainly not going to survive this if the Abbramic world does not get its head out of its ass if the Christian world does not start to stand up for itself without becoming this Christ is king nightmare you know I was in Tel Aviv before this all happened and I I just said it from the stage make the Middle East Christian again does nobody understand their role is sort of my question how can you have Bethlehem without a strong Christian presence have you ever been to the Church of the Holy Supplr no can I give you another assignment get off your ass and go you got the money walk the stations of the cross and for God's sakes stop with the issue about belief you can pray like the rest of us we're not sure if we're praying we're not sure if the thing is hooked up and anyone's listening you have the right to go back even with doubt even with knowledge and you have the right to believe about a tomorrow you know where where you're not going to be but people are going to be mentioning your name when you say that your your people are under attack who are you referencing as your people i would in general there's several groups of people that I would describe as my people the Jews would be one dyslexics would be another Americans would be another scientists would be another it depends on on what these things think but right now I'm thinking about the Jews and I'm thinking about the fact that the social media businesses have lost complete control of uh the bot farms and we're just seeing this unbel I I I feel like I'm living through the 1930s again i I we've seen this movie before it doesn't end well you know what happened in Gaza is an unbelievable tragedy and that tragedy was partially architected by the United States of America shoving a two-state solution down the throats of Palestinian Arabs who absolutely do not want a two-state solution and the creation in part of the situation where Israel has a hand the US has a hand the Palestinian Arabs have a hand the creation of Hamas and and the promotion of this just unbelievable genius Senoir the leader of Hamas who is continuing to best BB Netanyahu from the grave you know it's just an amazing feat nobody reads anymore as you know um there's an old Sherlock Holmes story called The Problem at Thor Bridge you ever heard of it no so you're British um Sherlock Holmes gets called in on a case in which um there's a murder and the murder is traced the murder is traced to this gentleman who still exists uh what Sherlock Holmes figures out is that it's not a murder it's a suicide in which the gun will fall into the river at Thor Bridge because it's tied to a weight and the person uses the suicide to frame someone else you know it's just one of these genius little vignettes and that's what Senoir was he was a a genius he he knew he was going to die who was Sinoir sinoir is the person who who's committed suicide sinir's suicide was an IDF assisted suicide i wrote about this almost instantly after the October 7th invasion it didn't make any sense that Gaza would undertake such an act against Israel given the asymmetry and what this mirrored was that before the 1990s so you think Sinoir committed suicide to then cause the people of Gaza to invade Israel on No senoir would be happy enough for all the Gazins to die and so what he did was he architected a situation in which Israel would be compelled to respond using the wrong tools he tricked Israel and you know I I'm very confident to to talk about this because if you check my old tweets I say IDF assisted suicide and monken by proxy and zukwang right and I said these are the concepts familiarize yourself because Israel is going to invade Gaza and I knew what was going to happen because took me like why would you do this it doesn't make sense from first order logic but third and fourth order logic you're like "Oh of course it makes sense." This is hybrid war the most important thing for Senoir is video why look at the effect of the video the video of Gaza has turned the world to an extent against Israel that's sort of inconceivable there's a doctrine called hybrid warfare and I think it came out of the US in the early 2000s and it says that the kinetic component of warfare the killing the actual shooting and the planes and the bombs and all this kind of stuff is not the major component the social media is really important the video is important the mimedic complex is important and Israel has an advantage over the Gazan Arabs in kinetic warfare and Senoir knew that he was like "Brilliant all we need to do is force Israel to come after us." And this is this thing I was going to say before the 1990s we had a spate of killings of policemen firing on people who had pulled toy guns on them and we would we would say things and I remember this like whatever you do don't point a toy gun at a policeman you're it's don't you realize what's going to happen and then somebody coined the phrase police assisted suicide the policeman is the instrument that's what I knew was going to happen and for better or for worse BB just couldn't figure out where he was and BB was dumber and Senoir was smarter is there any way back from here because you said this is World War II well the the way there is but it's slim and it's evaporating i mean almost everything depends on Saudi Arabia and the and the Iranians the Persians if the Persians didn't take this opportunity to rise up against their oppressors I don't know what they're waiting for yes you're going to get killed in some numbers but you have to figure out whether you're interested in tyranny or not so the Persians are absolutely falling down on the ground on the job not rising up against the mullers this is a coordinated moment like you know there's there's a moment for a prison break this would be it who are the mullers in this city the Ayatollas the government yeah the the theocratic government of Iran so the rulers of Iran basically the people that are Okay so I don't know if if if you know a ton of Persians they're varied in their religiosity but there's a you know there's an underground gay scene in Thrron there's super hyperodern people just like you and me who can't stand these guys and so you're saying that if they rise up they would that would be one of the parts of the solution the other thing is Saudi Arabia and and I have to be very measured and careful here um you can't fantasize about the Middle East becoming Western Europe overnight every time we do this we make a terrible mistake when you have a modernizer like MBS in Saudi Arabia who's the ruler of Saudi Arabia right deacto he can't suddenly become a modern person so you know if if we end up talking about Kosogible and murders and murdered journalists and all this stuff the whole conversation will derail but he's a modernizer and there was a moment where he needed to not condemn Israel publicly and thank it privately but to say "We've all been terrorized by this country and Israel did what everyone needed we needed to rise up against the mullers because you can't have a nuclear theocracy you can't have a highly developed notion of heaven where this is the this is the anti- room where you're waiting to get into the real room that issue of needing to be rid of an as aspiring nuclear theocracy something that in that Israel undertook now something that I'm going to say there are three words in Yiddish which you may have heard or may not may not and neb so there are three unfortunate people you don't want to be any one of those three but the subtlety is that the schlamile is a klutz and the schlamile spills hot soup on the schlamazle so the schlamazle is the unfortunate person to whom bad things happen and the neb is the weak ineffectual person who decides that it's his job to clean up the mess so the schmile spills the scalding hot soup on the schlamasle and the neb cleans it up now in the US we've got this terrible sort of Christian nationalist uh problem that we've developed which is what sometimes people call the woke right where we have a bunch of people who've been badly treated white Christian Americans have been badly treated in the woke era they've been forced to salute everybody else's you know yay for uh you know I don't know Honduran lesbians day and and it's like okay enough we don't we don't want to do that anymore we've also done great things and I absolutely think that they've been mistreated yeah and they've gone sort of metastatic and their attitude is no more wars for Israel america first what I was getting to with the Schlam Schlamas and Nebbeck is that most Americans don't have any idea who Kermit Roosevelt was do you have any idea of who so the US and the UK jointly overthrew a democratically elector in Iran through something called Operation Ajax we installed the Shaw and then there's this period where everybody stupidly celebrates the miniskirts and the jazz that was going through Tyrron which was a bridge too far in other words the miniskirts were a really bad idea because they weren't they were ready for some amount of modernization and they weren't ready for that and so we pushed it too far and so we got the mullers for 40 years and now we chop off people's fingers and we pluck out people's eyes and we put homosexuals on ropes and dangle them from from cranes they're barbaric bar they're horrible human beings okay these are really bad men the mullers and we did that so the scalding hot soup is revolutionary theocratic Iran and we spilled it all over the Middle East which is the schlamazle we spilled it on Saudi Arabia we spilled it on Iraq we spilled it on Israel everybody suffers from having these people installed because of the US and the UK instituting a problem back in the 50s and who's the ne who cleans this up israel volunteers for this job and then Saudi Arabia pretends "Oh my god this is terrible our our Muslim brother is being attacked by our Jewish uh barbarian i I I just can't believe anybody's dumb enough to fall for all of this like we're involved in a story where nobody can sort things out there's no talking heads anyone believes in and if I didn't understand this then how is it that I have a tweet from you know 10 days after October 7th or I appeared on trigonometry i'm telling you Israel hasn't even walked into Gaza yet and I know what the strategy is iran sent hypersonic missiles into the ground in Israel as a message violence is a language and they spoke it well the the mullers may be crazy but they're still Persians they're they're extraordinarily skilled and so what they did is they wasted some of their arsenal saying "You have no Iron Dome and we're not going to kill you we're going to put our missiles we're going to waste our missiles by sending them into your Earth and try to kill no one." And the Israelis these brilliant genius Israelis who pull off all sorts of things that the world can't believe are dumb enough some of them to say "Huh they sent all these missiles and they couldn't even hit anyone." And I'm just thinking do do none of you understand anything i I just don't even know where I am and I'm looking at you know I I know Tulsi tulsi got it yeah Tulsi is amazing she's the head of the intelligence program for the United States director of national intelligence right tulsi has seen the devastation not of war but of US action abroad like we haven't really had full wars but we get involved in Afghanistan or Iraq or wherever and and you know people die and there are firefights it's not like it has nothing to do with war but full-on war is is a very different thing we we say the Iraq war but I I I want to be very careful about the language you know war usually involves you getting rocked at home not just your your troops abroad i don't think she I don't think she appreciates the gravity of the situation that somehow what we need to do is we need to stabilize this thing for 50 to 100 years while we desperately try to figure out a long-term solution this idea of like just we're not taking responsibility for the world we already screwed up i don't want to send Americans I you know I'm not an Israeli I'm an American i don't want to send my fellow Americans to die in foreign battles that we have no business being in but we have to take ownership of our history with oil and energy in the Middle East and what does that look like taking ownership recognizing that we created the mullas and doing what about it and wait wait a second not just that and that we also created a lot of the heartache along with Sinoir and to a much lesser extent Israel by forcing this two-state solution on people who would never put up with it like I I lived in in Israel for two years and you would have conversations with Arabs some of whom are Israelis you know and they would say "Look you know you just don't understand the West Bank and you don't understand the difference between the West Bank and Gaza and they would tell me straight up you're going to get us all killed with this two-state solution stop it." And I you know it's very hard for me to hear but we're just having a child's conversation about the Middle East and I will say this about the UK the British Foreign Service had a different failure mode than the US they really learned the regions they learned the dialects of the languages of the countries that they were involved in the British Empire took many places that they were involved in seriously and they have a very complicated legacy you know I'm I spent a lot of time in Bombay and there's a lot of debate among very educated Indians about figuring out how to think about the the British legacy all of the great institutional structures that were built all of the prejudice and bigotry why was such a small country able to colonize such a large land basically working with the locals you know it's a rich conversation we're having childlike conversations about all of this i'm sorry if I'm going on about this but it's just a very weird thing that we're we can't get anybody's attention you can't even get my attention you know I'm watching hypersonic missiles slam into the places I just was and then I'm watching a cat video and then I'm trying to figure out what to order through Uber Eats and it's just like I can't stay focused it's really important to put this um to put this right and the US screwed up the Middle East along with the UK really good and we have a lot of responsibility and if we want to go isolationist I understand that but you first have to put back the chicken soup that you spilled and how'd you do that i'm not sure i'm not the director of national intelligence i'm not I'm not the secretary of defense i'm not in the Oval Office i mean you know it's very weird i was workmates with JD Vance you know these these are people who are you know Bobby Kennedy lives one canyon over from me in Los Angeles the people around power in the US Godspeed you know just just wish them well i don't care what party you're in but to to try to sabotage Trump or sabotage Tulsi or sabotage Pete Hex I these guys need to figure this out and they need to be at a totally different level and is figuring it out peace in the region you know the peace with between Egypt and Israel is a shitty crappy horrible peace but it's peace it's not a loving relationship it's not a question of everybody going back and forth between the two countries saying you know we used to be enemies now we're friends it's a lousy cold peace i'll take it we need to have peace between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs who can live in peace and we need the people who cannot live in peace we need to find someplace else for them to be it is absolutely imperative and by the way this goes for the Israelis there are small number of hardcore Israeli settlers who cannot live uh you know in peace with their neighbors and it's very important that the people who cannot live in peace not be there do we need to go to are are you suggesting that we focus on regime change in Iran that is really the responsibility of the Persians so I want to I want to get clear on what you see as a solution because you're saying the Persian people have to rise up the US need to care but not get involved in that regime change i'm saying that a bunch of things need to happen if we're to have a long-term solution i make you president tomorrow i hate when people do this but I it's the clearest way of understanding the actions you would First of all if I was president tomorrow I sure as hell wouldn't be on a podcast discussing strategy with you trump does it yeah i decline to answer all sorts of questions on camera fair yeah so my feeling is is that you do a lot more behind closed doors and this idea of just handing people you're the king of the world what do you do tomorrow to stop you it's like don't do that to me because it's just it's a no-win question if I was going to I I do a lot of Straussian communication i'd meet with people in private i'd use lots of carrots and sticks i try to use long range thinking and I wouldn't tell you what my plan is and by the way I very much respect Donald Trump in certain ways one of which is is that and this confuses our friend Sam Harris no end sam is always like "Well he's not being truthful he's not making sense." He's a negotiator you don't sit down to a negotiation with an open book saying "Let me make sense to you." You sit there saying "You don't know what I'm going to do next you don't know how big the stick is you don't know how much carrot there is maybe I'm prepared to give you more maybe my stick isn't as big as you think or maybe it's twice as big." Do you think anyone has good answers i'll be honest i think that Trump is in part respected because he has some intuitions about this stuff his intuition is not to say everything his intuition is that negotiation is more important than transparency and at a time when everybody's craving transparency tell me everything no I'm not going to tell you everything i'm going to try to save some children today i'm going to threaten i'm going to cajol i'm going to do all sorts of things and and you know that's what I'd do i would I would assemble the best people around me i would stop giving so many press conferences i wouldn't tweet every 4 seconds i'd be extremely strategic about it but you know the situation in Tel Aviv and in Gaza makes me sick to my stomach and and in Ukraine almost all of my DNA comes from Ukraine at least passed through it i've been there and you know Russians in Ukraine Ukraine used to be known as little Russia this is a How are we sitting here watching this what moron decided in 2004 that we were just going to hand full Article 5 status to former Soviet republics without consequence it is not the case that I don't I would love to have Estonia Latvia and Lithuania in NATO not at this cost look the world is a brutal brutal place we've gotten really bad at at international understandings i can't stand what's happened to Europe europe has been completely denatured we're we're playing with fire everywhere and I just I don't know how to talk about it because every time I talk about things where I'm the only person who sounds like this it's bad for my life look if if you're in general a Ukraine hawk and you say you know we need to make sure that Ukraine is completely supported so that they don't give an inch of territory yeah you'll take a lot of crap but you'll be in a large group and if you basically have the idea that Russia you know was minding its own business and the US was encircling it and good Russia bad US you'll have a lot of company for that perspective i don't sound like any of that the most important thing is to stabilize the world again and we're not going to get another chance like World War II if we're not smart we're crazy to give up this order that we have and again you know one more time I'm talking about this stuff and I don't want to be talking about this stuff elon is 100% right we can't talk about problems all the time it's cheap meaning there's an entire universe to explore and we're sitting here focused on our own drama always and I'm getting sucked into it i don't want I want to be talking about traveling through time and space using Easter eggs and hidden features of what we thought was the space-time continuum because I talked about ketosis on this podcast and ketones a brand called Ketone IQ sent me their little product here and it was on my desk when I got to the office i picked it up it sat on my desk for a couple of weeks then one day I tried it and honestly I have not looked back ever since i now have 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flower of life geometric model and I was I was reading through some of your work and I came across this sentence that said you'd kept a secret for 30 years in terms of your belief about the nature of the reality that we live in and that you thought maybe it was more than just the dimensions we experience maybe there was 14 dimensions i've always I wonder this a lot you know because we we're fixated on problems we're fixated on what we see and what we hear and what we feel but I wonder sometimes if if even that is an illusion i I've spent a lot of time actually thinking recently about the simulation theory and is this whole reality just some simulation on some kid's video game in another dimension um so I thought you know you're a physicist do me a favor put that in a triangle pattern here okay so we have three mugs think of those as vertices of a tetrahedrin and think of this coaster floating here as the fourth vertex mhm for every two vertices so the number of vertices we would agree is four yeah what's what does verticy mean points yeah 1 2 3 four idealize these three things and this as points mhm draw a line segment between all of these four vertices how many line segments are there one two three four five six six yep so there's six edges four vertices how many triangular faces that have three vertices on them oh four yeah this is how to think about the actual dimensions that we have open to us the four faces we know about the key point that I was trying to get at is I don't believe that you just have the four dimensions i believe that you have all six edges are dimensions and all four vertices are also dimensions i'm talking about a hidden world it's very interesting physics has gone stagnant in terms of how we usually measure progress the the way we measure progress is the change in something called the action or the lrangeian the specialized device and that used to change a lot and then in 1973 it stopped changing the major thing that we have is we have no new ideas about how to change the lrangeian that anybody finds that exciting or interesting so there's been no progress nobody goes to Stockholm to get a Nobel Prize because they changed the lrangeian of the world what's the langrian the lrangeian so you probably think about physics in terms of equations like Maxwell's equations or the Einstein equations or whatever think about an equation as being not the primary thing that physicists think about so I give this example the Beatles had four basically different configurations when Ringo was the front man he was singing Octopus's Garden george Harrison is singing While My Guitar Gently Weeps you know uh Paul is singing about Penny Lane and John is singing about Strawberry Fields Forever those four equations those would be those different configurations of the Beatles with one of them front and everybody else backing the front man would be the equations but the Beatles would be the Lrangeian it's the thing that generates the four different configurations okay and there's this bizarre force field that anybody who wants to talk about physics and doing something new in particular leaving or traversing time or multiple dimensions of time anything that's really close to what might be possible gets slammed we don't know why because it's very cheap to explore ideas and we have no new ideas but the only thing about a new idea in physics is that a new idea changes the balance of power in the world do you remember the thing I was saying about Alpha Fold 3 alpha Fold 3 changed the balance of power in the world bitcoin changed the balance of power in the world the diffuse proposal from the ecoalth alliance changed the balance of power in the world if that was the source of the co virus anytime somebody has a really big idea and the biggest idea and you know I talk about this people don't grasp it probably the most dangerous thought anyone has ever had was Rutherford in 1911 saying I wonder whether there's a neutral version of the proton it doesn't sound dangerous but it's hard to send a proton into a bunch of protons because it's positively charged and a massive nucleus is really positively charged and so there's a repulsion if there's a neutral version of the proton and these things are barely stuck together with a strong force even though they're trying to scream away from each other because they want they're all positively charged you can send a neutral version of the proton right into the center tap and just imagine you have a bunch of magnets that are trying to flee from each other and the velcro around them is barely holding it together so now you you have a bullet in the form of a neutral proton a neutron and it hits this thing where the magnets want to come apart and the velcro is barely holding it together well that idea led to the chain reaction and the nuclear bomb well that that was the fision bomb and then a geometer so I'm a geometer and not a physicist and a physicist named Edward Teller and the geometer is named Stannis Loss Ulong said "I wonder if there's a way to take the chemical bomb that creates the fision bomb and use the fision bomb as the detonator for a fusion bomb." So bomb number one bomb number two bomb number three and what they figured out was is that the only way to create that is to reflect light in a particular way to compress hydrogen into helium and release energy because anything other than light wouldn't get to this the tertiary stage fast enough before the atomic bomb like you're using a Hiroshima Nagasaki as a detonator that's how crazy it is so that chain of ideas which is maybe there's a neutral version of the proton maybe I can send that into the middle of an atom that's very heavy that was built in a stellar collision maybe if I have a bunch of those uranium or plutonium type things each one when they break apart will have more neutrons inside that is more neutral protons that will hit more nuclei that will release more energy and maybe that can then focus the light the gamma radiation that comes off of this thing or who knows what to compress a narrow rod to create fusion which only occurs on the sun in the sun but but do it on Earth so we're going to take a little bit of the sun on Earth that chain of ideas was the most dangerous thing anybody's ever thought and that's why when you try to do physics you don't know why are people making fun of me why are they being mean why are they dissuading me from talking i don't know you have a suspicion well there was a guy named Jack Raper the unfortunately named Mr jack Raper who was a reporter in Cleveland who for some reason during the war in 1944 decided to vacation in New Mexico so he goes to New Mexico and he comes back and he says "I've got a crazy story there's a city that nobody knows about with a mayor who's supposed to be the second Einstein and it's the most secretive city in the world and the mayor is working on a doomsday weapon and even the people who live in the city don't know what it is." And he writes the story of Los Alamos and publishes it in 1944 the scoop of the millennium to say nothing of the century nobody knows about this article and it's called Forbidden City we pretended that it never happened for those that don't know Los Alamos is where the atomic the nuclear bomb was I guess conceived and brought to life and tested well it was really it was really designed there and most of the nuclear processing took place at other sites whether Hanford or Oakidge I'm not sure and it was tested a short distance away uh at the Trinity site so go watch the movie Oenheimer if you will but this is why physics physicists are the only occupation in the country that doesn't have full free speech so are you suggesting that there's dangers in believing in more dimensions that maybe some people might not want to be known in the same way that we didn't want the My point is I don't think our government knows the real secrets of physics if I had to make a bet tomorrow I don't think there's a secret government office that knows physics okay mhm i think that there were a bunch of very smart people who knew how dangerous physics was and that the idea that we would continue to do it in public struck them as insane because it could lead to destruction when I tell you that the most dangerous idea in human history is maybe there's a neutral version of the proton that's supposed to sound insane but the entire chain of ideas results in nuclear fusion happening on Earth at the direction of the president of the United States and that's what I'm trying to get at which people don't understand which is you probably don't even realize that the department of energy is really the department of physics because we we we pretend that it's the department of energy like we had a war department that became the department of defense we're scared of the possibility of physics we don't even want to talk about it the the literally no other occupation has lost free speech like physics there's a special doctrine called restricted data that says you cannot write physics on a napkin even if you have nothing to do with the government i think even if you're not an American if it has anything that could possibly have to do with nuclear weapons in other words any advance that might have to do with nuclear weapons you have to recognize that the instant you put pen to paper or you start talking to somebody you're committing a violation of the 1917 Espionage Act and if you think that's crazy start exploring the words restricted data 1917 Espionage Act 1946 and 1954 Atomic Energy Acts the doctrine of born secret it is illegal to pursue Q clearance data if you don't have a Q clearance but if you're creating Q clearance data out of your own head as a byproduct of trying to do physics you are actually potentially committing a capital offense and your theory of everything your theory the theory you just talked to me about there what does that mean for the for the average person that's listening to this in terms of that they should Well this is my point did Rutherford know what he was doing no so I talk about this a lot but I do think it's probably one of the greatest lyrics ever in any song and unfortunately it occurs in a song that got way too popular um the baffled king composing Hallelujah that line a baffled king does not realize what he is doing when he composes rutherford was a baffled king maybe there is a neutral version of the proton he was composing the end of the human race and your ideas about the nature of reality i'm a baffled person and your proposal i am baffled i don't know what it leads to is what I'm trying to tell you but your assertion is that there's more than this dimension that we understand and more than I'm telling you that I can name for you what particles there are left to be found mhm and the what comes back to me is you don't have any predictions and I'm thinking this doesn't even make sense literally I'm telling you there are maybe there's a neutral version of the proton doesn't begin to talk about all the things that I'm talking about so many new forces so many new particles ways to go in there's no longer an arrow of time in my theory so you could live forever theoretically what does it mean if if you think about a final theory and again by the way I just want to say something i say my theory sometimes when I'm having to defend it but it isn't mine it it it just is you know Everest didn't belong to Sir Edmund Hillary or to Mallerie or even to the surveyor for whom the mountain is named when you chose to make the first descent on Everest you just chose a route and then you e either did or did not traverse the route we don't know whether Mallalerie may have succeeded but my point is that this isn't my theory there is a theory that's there it might be wrong it's possible i may have screwed it up but it's got so much in it that I have no idea what it means and the simple way to understand this theory is that there's dimensions that exist beyond the ones that we know we already know from Einstein that these dimensions are implicitly in Einstein's theory every single dimension that I'm talking about is being constructed out of the four that we began with when I put the cups here and the coaster the edges were calculated from the vertices and the faces were calculated from the edges my point being these dimensions are already here and because the dimensions are already here they were already present in Einstein's theory all along when you ask for what Einstein's real equation is we actually don't think about it that way we call it the Einstein field equations plural how many of them are there 10 why are there 10 because there are six edges and four vertices that weren't accounted for they're already in Einstein's theory we just didn't take them seriously as directions you could go in you've heard about this simulation theory haven't you well I don't want to talk about it really well again it's the LLM problem the really interesting thing comes from I don't know and maybe the maybe the cosmos is traversible maybe times travel replaces time travel you see if I flip all of the dimensions of time and space so I have one of time three of space in Einstein's theory okay the time dimension gets a minus sign the three spatial dimensions get a plus sign and the three spatial dimensions are X Y and Z zed forgive me which is for for a simple person depth width and height yeah you can go like forward backwards up down right okay so we have three dimensions there and then we have one of time because the conversation takes place over time you're moving around now flip the time dimension to being plus when it was minus before and all the plus dimensions to being minus so I have now I have three time dimensions and one space dimension it would look exactly the same the one space dimension would take the function of time and the three time dimensions would have the function of space we don't even teach people the idea that there is not necessarily an arrow of time if time is not one-dimensional the only dimension that has an arrow is one if something has one dimension you can say and you know I tried to do this on Rogan i said "If you have a cassette tape and you want to go back to an earlier song again your younger listeners will have no idea what we're talking about." Um you have to go back through all of the songs before but if you have a stylus on a turntable some of them will be hipsters with vinyl in their own homes you can lift the stylus up and it doesn't need to go back and unplay each song in reverse mhm okay you may be able to go back in time without going back through time i don't know what this means but it's a lot like saying maybe there's a neutral version of the proton now what I'm concerned about is that essentially none of my physics friends know that there is a doctrine of restricted data they've never heard of the 1946 and 54 atomic energy acts they don't know that the department of energy that funds them is really the the department of physics they don't know the extent to which we went to hide all of this stuff they don't know that they're not allowed to talk to foreign nationals from hostile nations on our own soil because of a doctrine called deemed exports there's an entire hidden world of national security and the penalty for talking about national security with people who don't live that is that you're a conspiracy theorist it's like do you have this terminology do you know the axe do you want to Google it well you're This is also just something that's really interesting about the UFO UAP world we had this admission recently that the government knew that at a minimum and again I don't think this is by anywhere close to the full story at a minimum there were secret fake special access programs do you know about special access programs su super secret programs are called special access programs then there's a further category called unagnowledged special access programs or USPS which is you can know that a special access program exists like you know maybe warhead recovery is a might be a known one but then like there might be an uncknowledged special access program which is like theft of foreign nuclear warheads which we it's not even on the books only only the super secret lawmakers uh you know in the gang of eight or whatever it can know that that exists and then there are further designations of secretness there's waved and bigoted so you can have like a waved bigoted unagnowledged special access program and you don't know any of this language and then there's this chorus of morons who the instant you start to educate people about the existence of the sup super secret squirrel club rise up and say this is all conspiracy theory and you're saying wait a second we just admitted in UFO UAP land that we have a fake special access program which I predicted on Joe Rogan and I said "We may be faking a UFO situation." The cost and the penalty at a personal level for letting people know how the government keeps secrets is personal destruction the US faked UFO program yes correct you don't know about this i think the Wall Street Journal had an article about it so these guys knew when they filed their reports on the UFO UAP that there actually is at a minimum a fake UFO UAP program why would they want to fake UFOs this is so weird did you did you happen to watch Joe Rogan episode 1945 where I talked about the whole history of the golden age of general relativity and its relationship to UFO UAP anti-gravity research and the atomic bomb i didn't know okay when we invaded the beaches of Normandy on D-Day that was called Operation Overlord we had an entirely fake invasion planned of Norway called Operation Fortitude that was part of Operation Bodyguard which is part of just total deception and why because we were building up troops to do something huge so we tried to convince we like planted plans for the invasion of Norway on dead bodies to wash up on beaches so Germans would find them we fake stuff all the time that's what we do and you can't talk about what we do that is deceptive without being ruined by what are called covert influence operations like if you'll you watch my Twitter account you'll see all sorts of accounts descend on it fraud Charlotte and Grifter blah blah blah blah blah blah some of that is just people being mean but you'll notice that like if I really start talking about physics and I start talking about security and I start talking about things that anyone can Google and most of us don't think to do it suddenly it gets really really intense and the whole point is it's supposed to be untraceable it's supposed to be a way in which like almost certainly we know a ton about what happened in the Wuhan Institute of Viology because of two bioweapons conventions that we were signitaries to and which we ratified the Geneva Convention and a bioweapons convention in the 1970s but that's not top of mind for ordinary people they just watched you know their great grandma die and they watched their children get sick and they watched their own brain fog they can't know whether that was a bioweapon that we were working on coming out of the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill with Ralph Bareric's lab you know we're we're up to constant secret stuff why would they fake the UFOs though what was the what was that distraction have you ever seen the B2 bomber what if you saw that before we were ready to say it existed yeah you'd think it was a UFO or something so wouldn't it be better if we had a UFO story ready to go when we had cool aerospace oh okay so you're saying they're working on something which they didn't want you to know what's more what if we convinced China or Russia or Iran that we had incredible powers that they don't have then they might be very reluctant to strike us or they might waste a tremendous amount of money developing anti-gravity technology when there's no such thing there are plenty of good reasons to fake such thing why would we fake an why would we plan an invasion of Norway if we weren't going to invade but if that's a distraction technique do you have any hypothesis as to what was going on there but that's not my job okay because as soon as you do that I know that my the quality of my guessing is not going to be at the quality of my detecting when we're up to bullshit okay so in other words if you ask me why is physics stagnant I can say I don't know but there's a decent chance that we know how dangerous physics is and that it's crazy to do it in an open university environment we've taken precautions we have a system of national laboratories which are effectively our secret university system uh where you have to be an American so we we're using our regular universities and the whole world comes through it you know we have Chinese people learning physics side by side our own people and I guess you're saying that you don't know if UFOs exist but you you're you're sure now that they were faking this i am absolutely positive that we have unagnowledged programs that have UFO written on the side of them okay in other words the number of people who repeat who repeat strikingly similar things who appear to be completely sober in every other respect with no known acting ability there is no way in the world that these people just spontaneously have decided to destroy their sanity their career and their reputation i've got you at a minimum we're faking i think we are doing a lot more than faking a UFO program i don't know what it is and I also would not be talking about this on a large podcast but for one thing I have a particular hatred for one aspect of our intelligence community and I I don't mean that I dis disagree or don't like or I'm not uncomfortable when our secret squirrel club inside the intelligence world and inside in particular covert operations targets our own people who are not read into these programs for personal destruction reputational destruction mental destruction economic destruction we take our best people and we make fun of them and we belittle them and we destroy their families their lives their ability to earn i have a very strong sense that you never destroy your best people do you think you're under attack let me talk about Leo Zillard instead leo Zillard is the father of the Manhattan Project which was the where the nuclear bomb was created that's right he was not allowed to go inside the Manhattan Project because they didn't trust him he was a genius he was the idea for the Manhattan Project he and Einstein made sure that it happened the government barely trusted Oppenheimer if you saw the film what they did with Leo Zillard was they minded him they knew how good he was they knew how important he was they listened to him and they didn't destroy him he undoubtedly knew that the program was going on but he wasn't allowed inside the program i think that's okay i think it's okay that our security state recognizes that some people are not cut out to keep secrets some people are not cut out to die with certain facts that have to be kept hidden that's fine the desire of our government to destroy people who have no idea what they've tripped over because our government isn't good enough to keep its own secrets this is an abomination you cannot destroy your a team who are you referring to when you say people are being destroyed are you referring to people like yourself you know if you look at for example Jeffrey Epstein Jeffrey Epstein conducted a conference called Confronting Gravity i don't know who Jeffrey Epstein was but I'll I would certainly bet money that he was a product of at least one uh or more elements of the intelligence community the CIA the FBI that those are ours right department of Homeland Security has some of the stuff geospatial Intelligence has some of this you know it's a it's a large network um I'm talking about people like David Grush i'm talking about people potentially like David Fraver i'm talking about people like Jake Barber i'm talking about scientists like Leo Zillard imagine if Leo Ziller didn't know that the Manhattan Project was going on or Jack Raper a journalist who broke a story these people all think that they're doing their jobs i desperately want to know why Jeffrey Epstein knew so much about my work and I want to know why he was connected to my graduate program i was I was in the Harvard mathematics department jeffrey Epstein was absolutely connected to the Harvard math department i want to know why how was he connected to the math department you're pushing me to say things I'm not going to say i'm curious i'm not trying to push you i understand but I'm just not going to do it i'm saying that anybody who wants You say he was connected to the math department to the Harvard mathematics department how did you know he was connected you can Google it you could Google it right now this is not I I can point at all sorts of stuff that's hidden in plain sight so I'll take your word for it and the assertion that I'm picking up on is that Jeffrey Epstein was planted in your world to keep I'm not saying he's planted i don't know who he was i don't know who ran him he certainly was not a financeier in any standard sense really that was a cover story yes the way that we know Jeffrey Epstein in the UK especially is just this guy who was this rich guy who had this island who brought people there and then did these despicable things that disgraced financeier Jeffrey Epstein yeah that's what we that's the story disgraced financier Jeffrey Epste it's called proveration he was a disgraced financeier what kind of a finance year or disgraced one what was his name oh he was disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein they proceverate that into your mind so that you autocomplete that in your LLM life do you believe that that's what Jeffrey Epstein was you met him you Yeah I can tell that finance finance year he wasn't a finance year the day I met him what was he he was a weird guy who didn't seem to know a lot about currency trading claiming to run a multi-billion dollar FX hedge fund when you say a weird guy what made him weird same stuff I've said on Chris William i'm not going to go back through that just my my point is you're getting a different interview right so what I'm trying to get at is Jeffrey Epstein knew a tremendous amount about my work when nobody knew anything about my work and he had a pipeline into me that I didn't understand which is that he was connected to my graduate program and you can check out the conference called Exploring Gravity uh and hosted physical workshop called Confronting Gravity confronting gravity that's right in March 2006 yeah what is Jeffrey Epste jeffrey Epstein is very focused on gravity was it a gravity conference it was about gravity what the fuck was he doing talking about bloody gravity if he's a finance year it was very important to get Nobel laureates and some of the smartest people on earth to come to the Virgin Islands and talk about gravity steven Hawkins was there david Gross was there lawrence Krauss was there lisa Randall was there right before his conviction and I'm telling you he was very focused on the Harvard math department and he knew all about me in ways that he wasn't supposed to i have to I have to be clear i have to be clear on my understanding of what you're saying from what I understood and you can say Steve I'm not going to answer that whatever but I just have to because you've opened up a curiosity hole in my mind so let me try and fill it even if it's the conversation you had with Chris um I'll just evade you if fine you're within the right to evade me and I hold the right to ask which is um so is what I'm hearing is you believe and I'm just going to say it how I think it is what I'm hearing is you believe that Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein was not a financier he was planted in some way to he was a construct is what I said he was a construct in some way to mess with the progression of physics Jeffrey Epstein Apparently I think some I'll tell you what I said when I met him when the meeting was over I immediately called my wife and I said "I have just met a construct." She said "What do you mean?" I said "This person is not who they claim to be somebody has constructed this human being to be something that they are not." Which is a hedge fund genius somebody who could understand the euro and the yen like nobody else bullshit not true i believe that whoever constructed Jeffrey Epstein was running multiple different programs through the same thing having put in a large initial investment it wasn't about one thing if you build a mall you don't just have clothing stores in the mall you have a food court in the mall right you have jewelry in the mall you you you have all sorts of different things in the mall jeffrey Epstein was a construct of something that was running multiple things one of those things was science and I don't think that the science and the pedophilia were necessarily in the same bucket he was funding all sorts of people i don't think everybody at that you know part of the problem with calling his plane the Lolita Express and calling his island pedophile island is that you just can't see all the different things that were going through this guy i don't think almost any of those scientists are exposed you know maybe a few of them but very few of them to anything really horrible i think he was trying to keep a periscope on everything that was interesting and I think that his girlfriend's father Robert Maxwell was all through scientific publishing and I think Pergamont Press was in part a control mechanism for making sure that revolutionary discoveries were taking place within a framework anybody can look you can write a Substack article and you can hit post and suddenly the world has access to your Substack article that is a nightmare what if somebody posts you know weaponized anthrax what if they do the equivalent of saying "What if there's a neutral proton?" So you think he was controlling science i think that Robert Maxwell was in part trying to control science i think Jeffrey Epstein was in part trying to fund science trying to control it i don't really know again you know part of the problem with why conspiracy theorists have a bad name is that they're not content to live in ignorance and I mean I am I know something is really off with this story if if you look at me saying things like "You don't know whether Biden is going to make it to November." Haha Eric you know what an idiot blah blah blah okay then he has a debate he doesn't make it to November you know I'm not Nostradamus i'm just dumb enough to say something in public that that makes sense let me say something in public that makes sense our national security people suck at their jobs the people who are in charge of the department of energy which is masking the department of physics which is m masking the department of nuclear weapons right the atomic energy acts which are really about atomic weaponry recast as atoms for peace or who knows what Jeffrey Epstein who is not a disgraced finance seere the newspapers that have always had a national interest component and have liaison so that they can work with the CIA and the state department and they do each other's bidding and scratch each other this whole network is the is what I've called managed reality we live in managed reality we are all in some version of The Truman Show and you can look at it you can Google it i can give you a million search terms and every time I give a million search terms you'll watch my reputation get torn apart are you are you going to blame me that you didn't know what the whole of society approach is because you didn't know the Daniel Inaway Center for Security in the Pacific came up with an idea for soft fascism to fight hybrid wars you didn't know what hybrid warfare look look at my talk at ARC Jordan Peterson's group the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship it's almost two million views and why is it because people are saying "I didn't know these terms did you know what the Human Terrain Project is you know do you know about human terrain you're a mountain i'm a valley and instead of war uh planners figuring out how do we use that valley to capture that mountain top because it gives us a an eagle's nest you know to snipe from or whatever they say "Okay this is the second most powerful podcast in the in the world second to Joe Rogan how do we capture him?" Fuck leave me alone please no but that's what I'm trying to say you're human terrain when the human terrain wakes up and says "Wait a minute i'm human terrain well my feeling is if you don't want me to talk about this on a podcast then keep your terms separate nobody knew the term pre-bunked malinformation do you know what pre-bunked malinformation is malinformation is information we don't want to get out technically people try to pretend that it's information that will be misinterpreted but really it's real stuff that is delotterious to the narratives that we're trying to push forward and what we're trying to do and prebunked means discredited so we know what debunked we have to debunk disinformation we get that but you didn't know that we had to prebunk malinformation which is we have to destroy truth tellers what do you think that means for people like me as podcasters you know because we're doing these long form conversations i take you'll snap back you'll say "That was a really interesting talk." And then you'll have somebody else on who'll be talking about the importance of melatonin and how we don't understand uh the role of sleep and you'll have somebody else you know on who will be talking about how do you do a uh a clothing brand from scratch uh and turn it into a billion-dollar unicorn you're not going to stay here on this topic this is your time with me and it'll have some effect and it'll start to fade and and and that's what this is i'd love to be doing my podcast i just don't know how to do it safely i want to talk about taking our lives back from the intelligence community i want to talk about taking our lives back from Silicon Valley even though those people are my friends I want to talk about taking my life back from the phone from despair from not having a future i want to talk about having a glorious existence that is not mediated by morons who sit inside the beltway and play with large budgets and hurt people particularly really good people who are good at their job who are trying to figure out how to advance humankind their family the national interest and get fouled i I did not ask for Jeffrey Epstein to fall into my life i met him once but it was enough to know "Holy cow the Harvard math department can't be what I think it is." Why was he there i didn't even know i never heard his name when I was there is that where you met him in in Harvard no no no i think what very powerful people at JP JP Morgan told me I needed to meet him he didn't want to talk about finance he wanted to talk about science you can't do your podcast safely do you My employer was a special informant to the FBI he's like one of my closest friends i'm not going to say who it is your employer yeah and one of my closest friends i I live under a periscope practice scope is really what I meant but yeah I I don't I want to do physics man i'm really really good at it you know and if we have an idea that we shouldn't do physics in public I would like to have a call from somebody inside hey Eric we we need you to come in okay great what's up but I didn't use your resources cuz I didn't use your grants nobody ever informed me my god nobody ever informed me about restricted data how many people on earth know that there's a doctrine that says physicists don't have free speech we can execute you for doing your job it's never been tested in the courts and I hope that the Supreme Court will not allow that but you know if we have a problem that is so serious in theoretical physics that it needs the the world's largest exemption from free speech we need to amend the Constitution you can't just do this as a sneak attack where you reserve the right casually to hook the 1917 Espionage Act up against the 1946 and 54 Atomic Energy Acts i I've canvased my physics colleagues You know like one of the memes against me which is very funny is that no physicists take me seriously when I'm in their offices all the time i I just don't know what my life is and And with this latest advent of war in the Middle East are you really going to pretend that if you can Google all of these things that I have no idea what I'm talking about i'm looking to have a conversation with my own government i'm looking to have a conversation about theoretical physics and I can do it quietly but I have rights and I do not believe that the 1946 and 1954 Atomic Energy Acts are constitutional try me there is no restricted data you can't do that to an American and you can't just keep mounting covert influence campaigns you know I just spent five days in the physics department i'm not allowed to say that it was five days in the physics department as a visitor i gave a talk i'm not allowed to say that I gave a talk i don't know what this is and I'm tired of it you know it's just like if you're managing the Middle East this badly if you're managing physics this badly if you're managing the national economy this badly if you screwed up COVID this badly by getting inside of the Lancet and nature you know peer review is this fake thing that supposedly stretches back to the founding of the Royal Society and it's very clear from the scholarship around it that it comes out of n period between 1965 and 1975 initiated by the Medicare act predicated on the need for uh editors for the journal expansion founded by Pergamont Press and Robert Maxwell by 1975 there's a giant battle between the NSF and both fiscal and cultural conservatives against something called man a course of study or makos where peerreview was born in a Utah clinic uh came out of the medical literature because the federal government in 1965 with the Medicare act picked up the need to pay for so many medical procedures they wanted to say why are we assigning this many medical procedures the doctors circled the wagons and said we will peerreview each other then in by 1975 the NSF was under the um microscope and they used peer review as a self-defense of of last resort to say we will be reviewing each other right peer review is a myth the scholarship is clear as day i I can't keep going on the world's largest podcasts saying everything that can be googled and figured out and just constantly have as my reward that the government refuses to have a conversation with me and sends its its gaggle of uh of idiots to harass me you think it's doing that it's sending a gaggle of Yes I do i do think I think that some of them are actual idiots who just enjoy having causing problems but I think more than anything we have a real problem science is too powerful the real if you wanted to just cut to the ultimate core of this if four amino acids can shut down planet Earth if what is it a nine-page paper solving the double spend problem can create a new currency not backed by violence but backed by mathematics if the concept of an inner product in a large vector space generates something you can't tell isn't a human being in 2017 do you have any idea what the power of the human mind is at this point linear algebra can create something that you would fall in love with it can create the most beautiful music you can imagine or it can animate a photo of a dead relative so that you can actually have the experience of having some video of you with a great grandparent you can't even remember science is the most amazing powerful crazy stuff possible and we spend a fortune trying to convince people that scientists are worthless that scientists are incapable and in large measure they've convinced the scientists themselves my my colleagues the supposed physicists will spend their entire lives pretending to do physics and retire without ever having actually done any i was in this physics department I was just in it's been a long time since I since I've spent that long as a visitor the top people in this physics department professed that they had no interest in the physical world that they only cared about the mathematics that they were doing and I just thought you're in a theoretical physics group and you profess openly that you have no interest whatsoever in the physical world well done i don't know who you were i don't know how you did it but it took you four decades to get the physicists to stop caring about the phys physical world somehow what we did is we stopped the world's most powerful and the world's most important group from making progress and why Elon Musk is not out here saving this by just throwing a few billion at it you know Elon if you're out there it's at Astra yes or no mars is a stop gap message do you want to go to the stars is there something we don't know to the Department of Energy do you want to have conversations is there anyone at all out here that's my question that's why I do the podcasts and it's by the way I'm repeating myself i've said this before send lawyers guns and money there's no one out here but I will say this if we could get out of here you know in terms of transcendence in terms of things that are really exciting there's nothing that I had greater pleasure at as a father than taking my children for meteor showers we take the dog go to a secret location outside of Los Angeles that's quite dark we just lie under the sky and watch for hours you know and look up at the heavens and think "My god that's a destination that's some place I could go." I don't think that there's a more inspiring thing than to figure out the infinity of space all of these galaxies and the deep field photographs of these space telescopes filled with worlds and we're stuck here it's like it's enough already time to go let's have some fun that's that's really what I'm excited about been great great to be here thank you for being here super fascinating and it spun my brain in several different directions at the same time i want to I want to bring it um back to the person who's who's got to the end of this conversation and they're sat at home in their box of shorts maybe listening on their iPhone as they fall asleep wherever they are in the world or on a train or plane or whatever and allow you to offer them some kind of closing message that might make their life better in some way it's a broad brief but I think it's the most important brief which is you know can having heard everything we've talked about today what advice would you give the listener an actionable piece of advice so that they could live a subjectively better life the songs of Tom Ler are pretty terrific as are the operetas of Gilbert and Sullivan you might want to explore the Azors as well as the Indonesian archipelago indonesian is one of the easiest languages to learn because it's been denuted of most of the complexity that screw up people who have a hard time learning other languages buy a poster of tropical fruit and make sure that you visit every single one on that poster before it's time for lights out consider box B minor mass and the cello suites particularly by Pablo Casal and take a serious listen to Eva Cassidy uh singing Stormy Monday in an album called Live from Blues Alley to see if uh you really know how to feel things i think Professor Longair's Big Chief is one of the most brilliant pieces of piano music it's absolutely inspiring and if you really like that James Carol Booker III has an album called The Resurrection of the Bayou Maharaja seriously think about visiting the island of St helena in the South Atlantic take a look at Kurt Jiongal's channel he's doing amazing stuff being done by no one else on Earth i think that Chris Buck is really amazing and if you think that Crossroads is good have a listen to his version of Miss You by the Rolling Stones an incredible groove and I didn't really appreciate it the first time I heard it i think that the people making Spark amps at Positive Grid and the my friends at Neural DSP uh with the Quad Cortex will blow your mind with how much great audio equipment you can make you can get a good electric guitar for a few hundred bucks thanks to advances in China put it into an open tuning and buy yourself a slide or just slide a glass along it and you'll be able to play most songs that you'd care about within a minute or two maybe three because you only need three chords get married it may not work out it may be miserable have some kids there's nothing else great to do on this planet at least give it a try and if your parents won't pressure you to do it I'm happy to do it try to keep this thing going try to keep this thing going try to dream big about legacy don't feel embarrassed about wanting to conquer the world or leave a permanent stain get out of this moment where everybody's worried about narcissism and drama listen for meteor showers they're announced regularly nobody actually does anything about them and it's worth inconveniencing yourself with people you love and take the dog really seriously think about you whether you want to pile on when you see what is almost certainly a federal or other campaign targeting people who are standing up for you whether they're trying to figure out where COVID came from trying to figure out who was behind Jeffrey Epstein recognize that almost everything you've been taught to do in terms of hating Israel as part of somebody's campaign out ofQatar the situation in Gaza is incredibly dire don't stop caring about the people who are living under that recognize that the Persians are not the Mullers get involved wish your wish your country's leadership well even if you didn't vote for them and you think that they're horrible people they've got very hard work to do be good to each other try it's a grand adventure and um make sure you have some fun before it lights out that's it we have a closing tradition where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest not knowing who they're leaving it for and the question that was left for you I love this question what is the problem that you are doing the most mental gymnastics to avoid pass no I know the answer it's not appropriate for your audience one of the things about being in the hot seat on podcasts is that it is not right to force anyone to respond to a question i know how to falsify an answer to that and I'm not going to do that and I'm not going to share the answer to that question because it's not appropriate but it's a great question feel free to leave it for someone else this doesn't seem fair whoever you were thank you for the question obviously my reaction was just tremendous curiosity which would be a natural reaction to what you just said thank you for a great interview thank you so much for being here i really appreciate you no it's so unbelievably fascinating and uh you've given me so much unfortunately you've given me a lot of answers but you've given me even more questions and maybe that's the product of a good You live in LA we'll do it again thank you so much for your time i really appreciate you we appreciate you thank you thanks we launched these conversation cards and they sold out and we launched them again and they sold out again we launched them again and they sold out again because people love playing these with colleagues at work with friends at home and also with family and we've also got a big audience that use them as journal prompts every single time a guest comes on the diary of a CEO they leave a question for 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