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Welcome to the dailybriefs.info Lenny and Maria deep dive podcast show review of the brief.
You got it.
Today we're taking a deep dive into uh you know some pretty out there theories about CO 19.
Yeah. A unique perspective for sure
based on the work of Dr. Shankara Cheddy.
Right. Dr. Cheddy,
a South African GP,
a general practitioner. Yeah.
And we've got quite a bit of material to pull from.
We do. We've got a summary of his overall views, a review of a podcast discussion he was featured in. Okay.
And even some direct quotes from his Twitter.
Got it.
So quite a range of sources there.
Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how it all fits together.
It will. Our goal today is to, you know, really try to understand Dr. Cheddy's perspective, right?
You know, what were his key observations?
Yeah.
How did he approach treating patients
and what are some of his broader theories about this whole pandemic?
Yeah. Where did he differ from the mainstream?
Exactly. So let's start with his early observations. because it seems like he had some pretty strong suspicions right from the beginning.
Yeah, he did.
Especially about the origins of the virus,
right? I mean, he didn't buy the whole natural emergence theory.
Not at all.
You know, the idea that it just kind of jumped from animals to humans in a wet market,
right? The classic story.
Yeah. I mean, he looked at the virus's genetic makeup,
right?
And he just he felt like something wasn't adding up.
He did. And with his background in biochemistry, microbiology, and gen genetics.
Yeah. All those different fields.
He had good reason to be suspicious,
right? He knew what to look for.
He did. And one of the things that caught his eye was the virus's high infectivity,
right? How easily it spread.
Exactly. He thought that was unusual for a virus that supposedly just evolved naturally.
Yeah. It didn't fit the pattern.
It didn't. And Dr. VJ, who's a colleague of Dr. Cheddy,
okay,
he actually corroborated this.
Oh, really?
He said that Dr. Cheddy intuitively and I think also based on the evidence that there's something inserted into this virus raised his curiosity and suspicion.
H So there was this early sense that something was off.
There was and this really shaped how Dr. Kennedy approached treating his patients.
Okay. How so?
Well, instead of relying solely on PCR tests,
right,
he emphasized detailed clinical observation.
So really paying attention to his patients symptoms.
Exactly.
You know, day by day.
Yeah. He felt like the CR tests, especially when run at high cycle thresholds, you know,
okay,
could produce a lot of false positives.
So, they weren't always accurate.
Not necessarily. So, he was more interested in what his patients were actually experiencing,
what they were telling him about how they felt.
Exactly.
And what were some of those key symptoms he was noticing?
Well, one that really stood out to him was the loss of smell and taste.
Ah, yeah. That was a common one.
It was, but there was a particular twist to it that he found interesting.
Okay. What was that?
The fact that the bitter taste was often preserved. Really? So people could still taste bitterness but not other flavors?
That's right. It was this specific combination.
Loss of smell, loss of most tastes, but the bitter taste remained intact.
Interesting.
And he found this to be a more reliable indicator of CO 19 than even a PCR test.
Wow. So he saw that as a real red flag.
He did. It was an unusual symptom pattern that, you know, really caught his attention.
And it seems like this observation then led him to another crucial finding
it did the eighth day deterioration that he saw in many of his patients.
Okay, remind me about that. What was significant about that time frame?
Well, he observed that after an initial period of, you know, maybe mild symptoms or even seeming recovery,
right,
many patients would suddenly get much worse around day eight.
Huh.
And this often involved a sudden onset of breathlessness.
Really?
Yeah. And difficulty taking a full breath.
Oh, wow. So, it wasn't just a gradual worsening. No, it was more like a sudden shift,
like a tipping point.
Yeah, exactly. And to him, this suggested that something beyond the initial viral infection was happening.
Okay. So, it wasn't just the virus itself causing those symptoms.
Not entirely. He suspected there was something else triggering this delayed but severe reaction.
H and that must have influenced his early treatment approach.
It absolutely did.
And I understand that his approach was pretty different from what was being recommended at the time.
It was, you see, He based on his observations,
yeah,
he came to believe that this 8-day deterioration,
okay,
was caused by an intense inflammatory reaction in the lungs.
Ah, so their lungs were basically swelling up.
Yeah. Almost like an allergic reaction. He even said like your face swells, your lung will be swollen inside.
So he was looking at it as an allergic type response.
Yeah, that's right. And so he started using antihistamines as an early intervention.
Antihistamines like you'd take for allergies.
Exactly. His rationale was that if you could quickly address that histamine response,
you could prevent or reduce that lung swelling.
Okay? So, it was all about getting ahead of that inflammatory cascade,
right? And then he would use corticosteroids,
okay?
But timed very carefully,
right,
to manage that later inflammatory response.
He even had a case where he successfully treated a 92year-old patient using this method.
92 years old. Wow.
The patient had critically low oxygen levels.
Oh, that's serious.
It was. But with the antihistamines and steroids, they made a full recovery.
That's amazing.
It is. And he had other evidence to support his approach, too.
Okay. Like what?
Well, he described one case as his best clinical trial.
His best clinical trial.
Yeah. It involved a diabetic patient.
Okay.
And he saw a very clear pattern.
What do you mean?
When the patient was on antihistamines and steroids,
Yeah.
their condition improved.
Okay.
But when the antihistamines were stopped,
they deteriorated.
Oh, wow. And then when they were put back on the antihistamines,
okay,
they improved again.
So it was a direct correlation.
It was. And on top of that, Dr. McMillan highlighted another really striking claim.
Okay.
He said that Dr. Cheddy had zero deaths among the patients he treated using these protocols.
Zero deaths.
That's what he said. Wow.
Now, obviously, that's a bold statement.
It is.
But it's certainly something that warrants attention.
Yeah. Especially when you consider the global death toll.
Exactly. But unfortunately, instead of widespread adoption, right,
Dr. Cheddy faced a lot of push back,
he did
for his unconventional methods.
Yeah. It seems like he was really going against the grain.
He was. He even had interviews removed from mainstream media platforms.
Really?
Yeah. There were concerns about censorship.
Wow.
You know, the suppression of dissenting medical viewpoints.
That's troubling.
It is. And Dr. Cheddy himself commented on this situation.
What did he say?
He said, said, "Sadly, it seems that it is more important that the scientific community maintains their credibility than it is about saving lives." So, he felt like the focus was more on protecting reputations.
Okay.
Than on exploring potentially life-saving treatments.
Yeah. That's a tough accusation.
It is, but it shows the kind of pressure he was facing,
right, for daring to think differently.
Exactly.
But it sounds like his ideas did resonate with some people.
They did, especially with a doctor in Malaysia named Dr. VJ. Dr. VJ. Okay.
Yeah. He was really drawn to Dr. Cheddy's work.
And how did that connection come about?
Well, as soon as Dr. VJ learned about Dr. Cheddy's early findings,
okay,
he immediately reached out.
He saw the potential there.
And what was it about Dr. Cheddy's approach that appealed to him?
Well, he described Dr. Cheddy as someone who knew what he was up against. He was not afraid of what he was about to face, and he had a plan.
So, he admired his courage and his determination. Yeah, absolutely.
So, did Dr. VJ actually implement Dr. Cheddy's protocols in his own practice?
He did.
Oh, wow.
Through his organization, MAFIM.
Yeah. The Malaysian Association for Advancement for Functional and Integrative Medicine.
They organized training sessions for hundreds of doctors in Malaysia and neighboring countries.
Wow. So, he was really spreading the word.
He was. And he shared some pretty compelling anecdotes.
Oh, really?
Yeah. He talked about severely ill COVID patients. Okay.
Who chose to stay home
and were treated remotely using Dr. Cheddy's protocols.
Then they recovered.
They did. He even said from 3,000 km away based on the strength of the treatment protocol that you know Dr. Shankura has taught us. And it worked well over and over and over.
H So he was seeing success even in remote settings.
It was it was pretty remarkable.
But I imagine there was still resistance from official health bodies.
Yeah. Unfortunately,
even with the these positive outcomes.
Yeah. Dr. VJ expressed a lot of frustration with the Malaysian Ministry of Health.
What was the issue?
They just weren't interested in adopting these early intervention approaches.
Oh wow.
Even with the evidence.
And he had a term for this, right?
He did. He called it mind capture.
Mind capture.
Yeah. He felt like many doctors were just unable to consider alternative treatments.
So they were stuck in a certain way of thinking.
Yeah. Even when presented with different evidence.
That's pretty concerning.
It is. It suggests a real barrier to progress.
It does. And this resistance, you know.
Yeah.
It actually further solidified Dr. Cheddy's suspicions.
Okay. About what?
About a larger, more nefarious agenda being at play.
Okay. Let's talk about that. What were his specific concerns?
Well, he was very vocal about his concerns about the spike protein.
The spike protein, right?
Yeah. He even called it a pathogenic protein.
So, not just a harmless part of the virus.
No. He was worried about the fact that the vaccines Yeah.
were designed to make the body produce this protein,
right?
And he questioned why that production was prolonged and unregulated.
He felt like traditional protein-based vaccines where you have more control over the dosage were a safer approach.
So he was concerned about the potential long-term effects of that spike protein.
He was.
And this actually tied into his belief that CO 19 wasn't a naturally occurring virus at all.
It did.
He actually testified to a corona virus grand jury that he believed it was a boweapon.
He did.
And that the spike protein was a key part of that,
right? Even called it a toxin.
Wow. And what led him to that conclusion?
Well, he looked at how different variants were affecting different populations.
Okay.
And targeting specific organ systems and he just felt like that was unnatural,
like is too targeted, too precise.
Yeah. Exactly.
And he even referenced a paper
he did
called the spyopathy paper
by Professor Perry,
right,
as evidence for the harmful effect. of the spike protein.
Yeah. As support for his theory.
So, it wasn't just his own intuition.
No, he felt like the science backed him up.
And it seems like he had some other sources of information, too.
He did.
He mentioned being contacted by people claiming to be from US intelligence.
He did. Specifically, the DoD and the CIA.
Wow.
And he claimed that they confirmed his suspicions
about what?
That a weaponsgrade package had been added to the virus.
Wow.
And he went even further. Okay.
He said they told him that the vaccination program
Yeah.
was the second part of a global military strategy.
Really?
Yeah. And that it had nothing to do with health.
So he's alleging a much darker motive here.
He is.
Than just public health.
That's right.
And it's important to remember that these are Dr. Teddy's claims.
Yeah. We're presenting his perspective here. Right.
But it's a very different picture than what we've been told.
It is.
And on top of that, he was convinced that the virus was deliberately released. deliberately. Not an accident.
Nope. He pointed to the outbreak pattern.
Okay.
And the global response as evidence.
Evidence of what?
That it was too organized to be natural
or a simple lab leak.
So he felt like it was a planned event.
Yeah, that's right. And Dr. McMillan also added another interesting layer to this.
What's that?
He raised the possibility of a spike triggered autoimmune response mechanism.
So not just immediate damage. from the virus.
No,
but potential long-term autoimmune issues.
Exactly.
And particularly in vaccinated individuals.
Yeah, that was his concern.
H And it seems like Dr. VJ also had some reservations about the vaccine roll out.
He did. He was really puzzled by the sheer volume of vaccines being stockpiled.
Really?
Yeah. He said it was like 10 doses of vaccine per head.
Why?
For a virus that initially at least had a relatively low mortality rate for most age groups.
He just didn't understand the need for that level of stockpiling.
And what did he make of that?
He saw it as a red flag.
So, he felt like something else was going on.
Yeah. Something beyond just addressing a public health crisis.
And Dr. Cheddy's later statements on Twitter.
Yeah.
They really kind of fleshed out his views.
They did.
And painted a pretty specific picture of what he believed was happening.
Yeah. He really spelled it out.
Okay. What were some of the key things he said?
Well, he called both the virus and the vaccines bioweapons.
Wow.
And he said they were intentionally designed.
Okay. Okay. To create fear
and to offer a false savior
through the vaccines.
Yeah.
And he believed the ultimate goal was universal mandatory vaccination.
So it was all part of a larger plan.
Yeah. In his view.
And how did he think these bioweapons actually worked?
Well, he suggested that they were engineered to suppress the body's natural defenses.
Yeah. Things like apoptosis.
Okay.
And the interferon response,
which are both crucial for fighting off infections,
right? And he believed this suppression prolonged the infection.
Oh wow.
And increased the body's exposure to that spike protein.
So it was making people sicker for longer
in his opinion. Yeah. And he was particularly concerned about the omocrron variant.
Omrron, right.
Yeah. He actually called it a more contagious and neurotropic bioweapon.
Neurotropic.
Yeah. Meaning it could affect the nervous system. Yeah.
And he cautioned against any sense of safety regarding exposure to the spike protein. even for the unvaccinated.
Even for them.
Wow.
So, he was saying that even if you didn't get the vaccine,
you could still be exposed to the spike protein through the virus itself.
And he had those interesting theories about the blood clots, too.
You did
those unusual ones, the calamari clots as they were called.
Yeah, that's right.
What was his take on those?
Well, he theorized that certain metals,
okay,
like phosphate and tin
which were found in these clots,
could be acting as C catalysts.
Catalyst for what?
For uncontrolled polymer growth.
So they were triggering something. What kind of growth?
He believed it could lead to the formation of amalloid like proteins within blood vessels.
And those are bad.
They can be.
Why?
Well, they can cause endothelial damage.
Endothelial damage. Okay.
Which basically means damage to the lining of your blood vessels.
And that can lead to all sorts of problems. Right.
It can.
Like clotting and heart issues.
Exactly. And he actually put forward another even more complex theory. later on.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
What was that about?
It involved the bacteria activity of the virus.
Bacteriaophage activity?
Yeah. It's a bit complicated. Okay.
But essentially, he suggested that the virus could be reprogramming the bacteria in our gut.
Reprogramming our gut bacteria.
Yeah.
To do what?
To produce toxins.
Toxins.
Yeah. And he believed these toxins were similar to snake venom.
Snake venom.
That's right. Wow.
And that they could evade our normal dig estive processes.
Okay.
And cause systemic harm.
So, basically, he was saying that the virus could hijack our gut bacteria.
Yeah.
And turn them into venom factories.
Yeah. That's a good way to put it.
Wow.
He even used all caps to describe it.
How so?
He called it unnatural, intentional, wellplanned, transmissible invenimation. Wow.
So, he clearly felt very strongly about this theory.
Yeah. He was sounding the alarm.
He was.
So, it seems like all of this
Yeah. his early treatment successes, right?
His concerns about the spike protein and vaccines,
his belief in a larger agenda.
Yeah.
It all culminated in a call for a fundamental re-evaluation.
It did.
Of how we understand this pandemic and even our approach to global health and biotechnology.
Exactly.
So, what were some of his key messages?
Well, Dr. McMillan emphasized the importance of considering all perspectives, right?
He felt like it was crucial to listen to all sides.
And Dr. Cheddy himself called for a full-blown investigation.
He did.
He wanted to open this can of worms, as he put it.
Yeah, that was his phrase.
And he specifically urged us to re-examine biotechnology, right,
and the role of global regulatory bodies.
He was very critical of those.
Yeah. He expressed concerns about the influence of unelected NOS's.
Yeah. The ones funded by governments.
He felt like they had too much power.
So, he was questioning those power structures.
He was.
And both he and Dr. V. J talked about a growing awakening of the public.
They did.
What did they mean by that?
Well, they felt like people were starting to see through the official narratives
and becoming more aware of broader global agendas.
So, a shift in consciousness.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
And what about Dr. Cheddy's personal motivations?
Well, he explained that he was driven by the belief,
okay,
that the only things he truly controls are his own thoughts, words, actions, and feelings.
So, his own internal world.
Yeah.
And as long as he ensured he caused no harm through those,
right,
he felt like he was on the right path.
Yeah. That was his guiding principle.
And his legal efforts were also part of this.
They were.
He was trying to prove the toxicity of the spike protein.
Yeah.
And demonstrate the intentionality behind the vaccination program,
right? He felt like that was his duty.
And Dr. VJ supported this.
He did. He even highlighted a court ruling in Malaysia.
Okay. What about
it upheld doctor's rights to prescribe have Ivormect.
Ivormectin. Wow.
Yeah.
So, it was a victory for medical freedom.
It was. And it challenged bureaucratic interference and clinical judgment.
So, doctors being able to make their own decisions based on their patients needs.
Exactly.
And it sounds like Dr. Cheddy felt a real sense of urgency.
He did.
He even issued a pretty stark warning to his fellow doctors. Oh,
you did.
What did he say?
He said, "There are only two wooden boxes in this church, the confessional and the coffin. So, choose carefully. Wow, that's heavy. It
is.
So, he was urging them to speak out.
Yeah. To choose the confessional over the coffin.
And he also shared his broader view of the pandemic.
Okay. What was that?
He called it a war with an invisible boweapon.
A war.
Yeah. And he felt like this war had achieved outcomes typical of traditional warfare
without the public even realizing they were in one.
He even suggested that this might be the complete agenda.
So, a war being waged with without our knowledge.
That was his belief.
And his perspectives on DNA and consciousness were also pretty unique.
They were.
And they seem to tie into this whole idea of a spiritual battle.
Yeah, they do.
So, what did he say about DNA?
Well, he described DNA as an aerial.
An aerial.
Yeah. Like an antenna.
Okay.
And he said it's influenced by the frequency of our emotions.
Our emotions have a frequency.
That's what he believed.
And also the amplitude of our passions.
Interesting.
So, he was saying that our consciousness Yeah.
Can actually influence our DNA expression.
Wow.
And that joy and negative emotions have distinct impacts.
He even talked about dark forces.
Dark forces.
Yeah. He felt like there were entities out there.
Okay.
That manipulate us through negative emotions.
And he believed there was a war against children.
A war against children.
Yeah. And he felt like the purpose of this war was to generate lowfrequency terror.
So he was seeing a very dark spiritual undercurrent to all of this. He was.
And what was his message in the face of all this darkness?
Well, he urged people to be a responsible child of God.
A responsible child.
Yeah, that was his phrase.
And he emphasized the importance of protecting innocence.
Okay.
And embracing joyful, fearless, childlike qualities.
So, it was a call for a kind of spiritual resilience.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
And he also expressed concerns about the long-term genetic implications.
He did
of MRN. a technology.
Yeah. Specifically mRNA gene therapy.
Okay.
He believed it could lead to an extinction level event.
An extinction level event.
Yeah. He was really worried about that.
And why?
Well, he felt like it could cause widespread physiological changes.
Okay.
Increased death rates
and decreased birth rates.
Wow. So, a real threat to the future of humanity.
That's how he saw it.
And his final thoughts tied all of this together. They did
into a really big picture perspective.
Yeah.
On recent global events. What did he have to say?
Well, he basically suggested that all of this upheaval,
okay,
was the culmination of centuries of planning.
Centuries,
yeah.
Wow.
By those he referred to as sons of Lucifer.
Sons of Lucifer.
Yeah, that was his term.
And he believed their aim was to steal innocence.
Okay.
And generate negative emotions.
So to basically plunge the world into darkness.
Yeah, that's a good summary.
And what did he offer as a solution?
He said, "We need to emulate the joyful vibrations of children.
So to counter that darkness with joy.
Exactly.
Wow.
It's a pretty powerful message.
It is. So to sum up, Dr. Cheddy achieved some early success with his treatments.
Yeah.
He raised serious concerns about the spike protein and vaccines.
He believes in a much larger, more sinister agenda at play.
Right.
And he offers a really unique perspective on DNA and consciousness.
Yeah. It's a complex and controversial picture.
It is.
But it's important. to remember Dr. McMillan's point,
right,
about considering all viewpoints. Yeah, we need to be open to different perspectives.
We do.
So, for those of you listening, what stands out to you from Dr. Cheddy's story?
Yeah. What resonates with you?
How do his ideas challenge or maybe reinforce your understanding of this pandemic?
And what further questions do they raise for you
about global health, biotechnology, individual agency, you know,
yeah, all these big topics.
And here's a final thought to ponder.
Okay, I'm listening.
Given Cheddy's assertion of a spiritual war,
right,
and the power of our collective emotional state.
Mhm.
How might our shared mindset be impacting global events
in ways we don't even fully understand?
Yeah, exactly.
It's a really intriguing question. It is
one that's worth considering.
Thank you for listening to another session of the Lenny and Maria Deep Dive podcast show.